time to clean your house man.

You even worry about car cleaner charges?

Mazda3 using 5 speed auto.

U wan good value for your money? Go to properties talk, here is fast and furious, not save the world and live forever thread.



This post has been edited by turbocharged: Dec 14 2011, 06:34 AM

actually, different segment has different mentality.

i think sub 70k and above 200k segment will not care about resale too much.

those in between, if they stretch the loan too much, then they will find resale value very important, better if its good FC and cheap maintenance.

if i can only afford rm50k car, and i go buy a vios at rm80k(9 years loan). i will be damn sure the car must be cheap in FC and maintenance, because i wont have much money left for those FC and service any way.

so, if you see ppl driving big cars with cheap/botak tyre, then you know their economy status. they are stretching the loan and payment just to look good.

due to the rumors spread by SA and foreman.

if happens on korean car, they will said, see? told you dont buy.

if happens on local car, its ok, because local car is cheap, what you pay is what you get.

if happens on honda/toyota, oh, even toyota or honda got problem, if kena other car, even worse, so i'm grateful i got jap car.

if happens on bmw/merc, well, my ego prevents me from sharing it, how can those ppl driving local/jap/korean car understand this?

these are the mindset.

just look at the pricing of kia sportage.

naza is determined not to please everyone by cheapen their image and price.

a few years down the road, the impression of the public will change.

they tried to hire some higher management ppl from toyota and perodua la. since june 2011. so, hopefully they will be better

the lousy service is due to.....well you know, the industry is very competitve, and perodua giving 8 months bonus, so they can change job anytime, the turn over very high.

foreman tends to open their own store

oh, i mean, the turnover rate of good after sales ppl are very high.

so you will always see jokers around.

and if i'm not mistaken, naza is not paying good money, thus you see a lot of jokers there

come on, who wanna work for naza? go work for honda la, perodua la. toyota la.

i think they trying to make it as a car.

at rm125k, hey i cannot afford an camry/accord, so i buy this car.

at rm145k, hey, its same price as camry/accord, but i have better taste, so i buy this car.

i think a lot of ppl here are looking for cheap japanese alternative.

and a lot disappointed because there aren't any cheaper alternatives out there.

thats why.

they now giving 1 to 1 price to jap, and give 200% specs. and ppl dont like. haha

And also the image.

That guy drives a Honda.

That guy drives a Kia.

If you spend 140k, do u wanna explain to you fren everytime when they sit in your new Kia, why you dun wAnna buy a camry or a accord or crv? The reason to spend 140k is to look good.

Ppl always thought second hand value and reliability, image is important too. You wanna look cool too .

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Dec 25 2011, 01:00 AM

you got the car already? new k5?

thats what frens are for.

it is trying to create a feeling/image.

i'm buying kia not because i cannot afford a camry. it is in fact same price/more expensive than camry.

which is very positive, if you ask me.

at least when ppl ask you, why you buy kia?

because i can afford to buy a kia(which is on par with jap price) .

if you buy proton, ppl know, its economical

er, actually, 2740 vs camry 7355 and 4332 accord is quite a good number.

you should see the previous gen of sonata, which is very very rare.

CBC is also on kia forte, yes cornering brake control. sounds like f1

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Added on December 28, 2011, 10:54 amone thing korean is no match for japs car is.....

handling.

japanese car's handling differs from conti, but, they are not weak either.

through various performance variant of cars like Civic Type R, nissan skyline, lancer evo, mazda RX7/8, impreza sti, the jap car makers has acquired the know-how in car handling and chassis tuning.

For this, korean still has a very very long way to go.

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Dec 28 2011, 10:54 AM

maybe MITI does not allow them to price cheap cheap car anymore.

CBC is in Kia forte 2.0 also.

korea electronics part are ok, because if they failed after 3 years, nobody cares , you expect your iphone4 to work for 5 years?

but in msia, where a lot of ppl are paying 9 years car loan, and some even up to 25% of their income, ppl has a lot of expectation on cars.

if your iphone spoilt, you can go to work and you can buy a new one during lunchtime. if your car spoilt, how many days can you take taxi to work?

yes, i understand we all hated the national cars, and korean car with the right pricing is like a savior and a breath of fresh air, but, no, sadly, korean car still has some rooms for improvement, for the benefit of all.

At the very least, their distributor( naza/SD) has plenty of rooms for improvement. But for now, they are moving in the right direction.

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any car below 3 years is consider new car.

above 5 years, then only we can judge the quality. above 10 years, thats where the jap car shines, while the conti car dulls.

so you can see the 10 years old S class at dirt cheap price.

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Dec 29 2011, 10:13 AM