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post Dec 6 2017, 06:29 PM

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For now Mytv will be BN/umnu's propaganda tool,perfect timing to use mytv gomen channels to con the rural folks and prepare them for GE14 ! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 6 2017, 05:15 PM)

I do notice that MYTV did advertise their DTT technology in places like some train stations, inside trains, billboards, newspaper, and even have advertisement spot on RTM and Media Prima channels.
But still, I don't find it enough. There's about 6 months time left before ASO and I find that our government is not putting enough effort to make sure every Malaysians is well informed about this.

I hope MYTV would advise both RTM and Media Prima to follow like what Mediacorp Singapore did; put "ANALOGUE" on-screen indicator below channel logo for viewer to aware that they're watching analogue TV. Like this:

I find that this is an effective way to alert viewers that they are watching analogue TV platform, and at least they would take the initiative to know what is it about.

Currently, in Malaysia, you don't see such indicators on analogue TV and pay TVs (Astro and Hypp TV) platform, but watching it from digital TV platform has the irritating "Siaran Digital myFreeview" indicator on top corner of the screen (picture shown below) to show off that "Oh, you're watching digital TV". Very dumb indeed.


Because, if you ask around, do you know what is analogue TV? I can assure you that most of them didn't even hear before that term "analogue TV" or even mistaken it as "CRT TV", or don't know what is it, and all they know is, using those antenna you put on roof or on top of TV, that kind of TV channels, you get to see lots of "white ants" (referring to analogue TV static) on screen. But if you watch Astro, very clear picture and sound.

Seriously if MYTV and the government (MCMC) still not taking this seriously, my prediction would be, the scheduled analogue TV switch-off date by end of June 2018, are very likely to be delayed and postponed to later date, as an excuse to provide more time for viewers to migrate to digital TV. The main thing is, many Malaysians aren't aware of this ASO and yet MYTV Broadcasting didn't mention much enough about ASO. They should give tons of notices, a lot a lot of notices to the public to make sure (almost) all Malaysians aware about ASO is coming and the DTT migration, cuz just mentioning it once in a bluemoon in the news won't be effective. You expect those elderly to know, what is digital TV and analogue TV stuff? Hard to say, MYTV might be playing safe not to mention too much about ASO date, in case if it really got delayed due to some reasons. But at the end, most of the viewers just won't care and continue watching analogue TV as usual. They'll be like:
"Why I need to migrate to digital TV when I can watch analogue TV as usual?"
"Clearer picture? Now (analogue TV) not clear meh?"
"Buy the digital TV STB (decoder) for what? Need to spend money somemore. Troublesome la."


When you see these advertisement around places, it is as if MYTV thinks that this digital TV technology like something very new in Malaysia, a very ground-breaking technology like that; it is so real until those volcano eruption lava can burst out from your TV screen. They think it's like 3D technology? MYTV drunk izit? This is not advertising creativity, this is utterly stupid, irrelevant and I don't find it informative at all, and wasting advertising budget. See what we have now? 12 channels (10 SD, 2 HD) and 4 radio channels. Very ground-breaking is it? Now only 2 HD channels? Why not upgrade all or provide more RTM and Media Prima channels in HD? Like that la you advertise "Watching TV now as clear as reality" (shown on newspaper ad).

Come on, Astro uses digital television technology since they introduced its service back in 1996, and introduced HD services (Astro B.yond) back in Dec 2009. Astro is smart enough not to create stupid advertisement like MYTV did. So after 20 years since Astro introduces digital television, Malaysians can get to enjoy digital television for free through myFreeview, is it? What a third world country.....
DTT migration's PSAs from other countries including neighbouring countries like Singapore, isn't as exaggerating as this la.

MYTV Broadcasting, or any relevant parties should be informing the public about ASO, and inform the public to migrate to DTT as often, instead of MYTV keep advertise their DTT stuff (what is digital TV, how to set-up digital TV,...) and those volcano eruption nonsense. ASO is more important than DTT. Because not everyone will care much and interested to migrate to DTT if ASO is not well informed by the public, especially families (especially low income ones) that depend on FTA stations to watch TV.

Hate to say all these, but it is truly happening in our country.
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This ASO date, I went to rural area (not that jungle level yet) and they (orang kampung) said, "buat apa nak beli baru, kan boleh terima signal tv sekarang"
The moment I told them about the current analog signal will be gone after June 2018, they were like, "Apa!!!??"
Probably why sarawak and sabah free decoders are delayed to next year......nak pancing undi.......with "free" decoder.....

MYTV strategy execution also an issue. I saw those advertisements and I was thinking, "You guys wanna promote digital broadcasting or promote your own company?" The broadcast = big MYTV/Myfreeview logo in the middle. Decoder also carried MYTV brand. People are thinking that MYTV is just another MEGA TV, ASTRO, Hypptv with their own contents. doh.gif


I also blame our government for this shit. Who in the right mind giving exclusive access to MYTV to provide official digital terrestrial decoders for 15 YEARS?
This is a form of monopoly. The decoder high price and low quality build are the proof.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 6 2017, 06:25 PM)
from the way of it..

MYTV could be failure.. maybe until they also have Paid version (but need to see also what channel they offer)

for now NJOI is better choice  cool2.gif
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With that high price annual fee mytv is charging?
I mean reduction to RM8 million SD and RM18 million HD annually still very expensive...... whistling.gif

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post Dec 6 2017, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Dec 6 2017, 07:36 PM)
This ASO date, I went to rural area (not that jungle level yet) and they (orang kampung) said, "buat apa nak beli baru, kan boleh terima signal tv sekarang"
The moment I told them about the current analog signal will be gone after June 2018, they were like, "Apa!!!??"
Probably why sarawak and sabah free decoders are delayed to next year......nak pancing undi.......with "free" decoder.....

MYTV strategy execution also an issue. I saw those advertisements and I was thinking, "You guys wanna promote digital broadcasting or promote your own company?" The broadcast = big MYTV/Myfreeview logo in the middle. Decoder also carried MYTV brand. People are thinking that MYTV is just another MEGA TV, ASTRO, Hypptv with their own contentsdoh.gif
I also blame our government for this shit. Who in the right mind giving exclusive access to MYTV to provide official digital terrestrial decoders for 15 YEARS?
This is a form of monopoly. The decoder high price and low quality build are the proof.
With that high price annual fee mytv is charging?
I mean reduction to RM8 million SD and RM18 million HD annually still very expensive...... whistling.gif
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Ah you did notice that, eh? It's been quite a while I see something fishy going on this MYTV company.
Exclusive license to operate DTT for so many years, including MYTV STBs are a sign of monopoly.

Plot twist: Who knows, our government are interested more in offering DTT paid services (including urging the people to buy and use only MYTV STB) to gain additional profit, rather than ASO itself.
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post Dec 6 2017, 08:44 PM

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Really agree what Josh and John saids.

Come on MYTV, settle down HD quality pictures and ASO first on myFreeview before you start to do other things like Pay TV and others. But what MYTV are doing now is adding useless watermarks, have overpriced set top box, overpriced bandwidth pricing (until causing Media Prima wants to quit OTA TV), weak promotions and so much more. One should purchase a new TV/cheap decoder from Lazada .etc instead if one wishes to use DTT. MYTV are operating just like another Astro monopoly. Might consider adding NJOI in my house soon.

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post Dec 6 2017, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 6 2017, 07:51 PM)
Ah you did notice that, eh? It's been quite a while I see something fishy going on this MYTV company.
Exclusive license to operate DTT for so many years, including MYTV STBs are a sign of monopoly.

Plot twist: Who knows, our government are interested more in offering DTT paid services (including urging the people to buy and use only MYTV STB) to gain additional profit, rather than ASO itself.
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Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary = something is fishy with this. I mean during the so called open tender, there were Media Broadcasting Solutions dan Redtone Network trying their luck......MCMC never mention why Altel Holdings is selected. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Dec 6 2017, 08:46 PM)
Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary = something is fishy with this. I mean during the so called open tender, there were Media Broadcasting Solutions dan Redtone Network trying their luck......MCMC never mention why Altel Holdings is selected.  hmm.gif
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its open tender??
All this time, was thinking given direct negotiations..
Like astro monopoly.. Given exclusive rights 😊
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post Dec 6 2017, 11:37 PM

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I need to ask that is this LG smart TV model can support digital tv?
Model number:42LB5820
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QUOTE(sky3742 @ Dec 6 2017, 11:37 PM)
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I need to ask that is this LG smart TV model can support digital tv?
Model number:42LB5820
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UHF CH.21-69.
Should support digital TV.
In wikipedia, it stated VHF CH.5-12 & UHF CH.21-54.

This TV got VHF from 5-12 channel frequency. And UHF from 21-69 channel.
Can use for digital TV service. smile.gif

Btw, how much you bought this TV?
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post Dec 7 2017, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(Anime in HD @ Dec 7 2017, 12:27 AM)
UHF CH.21-69.
Should support digital TV.
In wikipedia, it stated VHF CH.5-12 & UHF CH.21-54.

This TV got VHF from 5-12 channel frequency. And UHF from 21-69 channel.
Can use for digital TV service. smile.gif

Btw, how much you bought this TV?
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Not mine, this is relative's smart TV, will testing around CNY.
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post Dec 7 2017, 03:32 AM

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I am one of the younger generation and its ironic that how with all the advertistments on MYTV Freeview done in FTA terrestrial channels like NTV7 and 8TV, many Malaysians are not aware of the digital switchover or even know what is MYTV.

I first new that Malaysia was going to broadcast Digital Terrestrial TV and Radio way back in 2007 when they announced it in the news on newspapers and TV at that time. RTM was spearheading the project and they were going to launch 15 digital TV channels around 2009 or somewhere around 2012. They did, however but the content was so-so with all the channels being in Malay except for TV2. I could pick it up with my cousins car/mobile Nakamichi Entertaintment/Multimedia unit/system that was DVB-T1/T2 ready. That unit was purchased and fixed in a car accessory shop in Singapore.

Until MYTV tookover or became the carrier for DTTV broadcasts, since then RTM has stop the broadcast of extra channels except maybe for TV1, TV2, TVi and Al-Hijrah.

Content on RTM channels are getting better as there are English content added to TVi as well as the other variety of programs on TV2. There are also some Korean programmes on TV2, mostly K-Pop. RTM also announced on Traxx FM/Radio 4 and Minnal FM/Radio 6 (RTM radio stations) that they will introduce new digital terrestrial TV channels with mix content. Hopefully it is mixed language content with all types of shows like movies, dramas, reality shows, variety shows, documentaries, docu-dramas etc. Another 4 digital TV channels will be introduced in the few years to come.

8TV and NTV7 has a lot of Chinese and Thai shows and some English content. Whereas TV9 and TV3, has respectively Korean shows and movies and English movies broadcasted late at night. TV2 also has some Chinese content broadcasted somewhere in the midnight-early mornings, after morning rush hour traffic and during the evenings. Drama Sangat with most content being in Malay also does air some Chinese dramas and I have seen this for myself but I am not sure when the come on air. Sometimes in the mornings, sometimes in the evenings, sometimes at night. Another thing is that the WOW shop channel should also add Chinese infomercials to their programming or schedule.

The advantages that MYTV has over Astro Njoi is Astro can only offer only 27 digital sattelite tv channels free and so-so number of digital radio stations free because if they offer more channels free that will affect their income or bread and butter as their buisness model is such and cannot afford to offer all channels like on normal Astro or Astro Byond free as they will go bankrupt.

Whereas MYTV, with different media companies broadcasting over their service can offer up to 88 channels free because they have a different buissness model. Companies can also make money through subscription service through PPV (Pay Per View) if they want to. On MYTV, PPV will be the extra channels that will bring the channel line up to 100+. They can also do that to radio stations. Astro NJOI can't compete with this.

I heard that another 10-20 digital TV channels will be added to MYTV if they are confirmed, which is good. Hopefully content can be mostly in English, Chinese, Korean and maybe even Japanese. However, I still feel MYTV should add more digital radio channels. Hopefully by 2020, MYTV will have 88 digital TV channels with mixed language and mixed shows content.

I have the original MYTV decoder and I even purchased another one under my relatives request and find that the MYTV decoder is much better than the off brand or China brand ones. It works like a charm, no lag and delays and switches on/off instantly and changes channels instantly and goes to various windows and menus or GUI On Screen Displays instantly. It is much better than the cheap off brand one I bought in Pasar Road that lasted me only for 2 weeks until it konked out.

I dont agree the MYTV decoder is for the old and non-tech savvy individuals. I am an electronics enthusiast and hobbyist and I've worked in many tech companies in Malaysia and I have both Astro and HyppTV and a 55" Philips LED TV (with Interactive TV, HbbTV and 2nd Generation Teletext [MHEG Digital Text] capability) and as well have 2 A/V gadgets that looks like a VCR called an Interactive Multiplayer and a HTPC (with Kodi/XBMC) on my home theatre and also that I have even recommended TV Boxes to others, am using the MYTV decoder on my second TV upstairs.

I am also interested in purchasing another one for my 55" Philips TV downstairs later.

All I want to say is, TV on MYTV is not boring if you know what to watch, when to watch (catch) it and where to watch it (channel).

PS: I feel that TV3 news is a bigger BN propoganda medium than RTM.
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Also I want to mention, the advantages digital terrestrial TV have over analog is that you can have EPG or programme info/schedule/guide displayed on your TV screen.

But for some channels on MYTV however I hope they update their EPG or programme info with synopsis.

Another thing is that digital broadcasts is clearer than analog broadcasts. For the same spot you put your aerial and TV set receiving analog reception, you might get a noisy, fuzzy, with static or very grainy picture, hence not clear picture. But with digital reception you will get it clear as if the TV station is right next to your house.

PS: Bernama News Channel (BNC) on MYTV also has some English content.
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Finally we have some MYTV fans here. biggrin.gif

88 channels? Trust me, it's not going to happen. With MYTV charging unreasonable high transmission fee, very less players would be interested in adding new channels. In the end, it is still dollors-and-cents commercial decision. Sadly government treats DTT project towards more profit oriented, rather than social responsibility.
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Dec 6 2017, 07:36 PM)
I also blame our government for this shit. Who in the right mind giving exclusive access to MYTV to provide official digital terrestrial decoders for 15 YEARS?
This is a form of monopoly. The decoder high price and low quality build are the proof.
With that high price annual fee mytv is charging?
I mean reduction to RM8 million SD and RM18 million HD annually still very expensive...... whistling.gif
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The concession is now extended to 30 years! brows.gif
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QUOTE(truelife @ Dec 7 2017, 02:18 PM)
The concession is now extended to 30 yearsbrows.gif
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Walao seriously..
Its even longer than astro Exclusive Monopoly period 😠
At least astro one is 15 years only...
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QUOTE(shaun_kok @ Dec 6 2017, 01:21 PM)
That's why exactly myFreeview are promoting their TV service as "FREE". As in the past clear picture was associated to Pay TV (Astro/HyppTV). When a new revolution comes along, they thought that this is just another Pay TV service.
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That was the gist of my point - sad that they have to promote it as such, thanks to to Astro's monopoly.

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QUOTE(truelife @ Dec 7 2017, 02:18 PM)
The concession is now extended to 30 yearsbrows.gif
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Fifteen? OMG I thought the moratorium was supposed to last only until 2019!
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 6 2017, 07:51 PM)
Ah you did notice that, eh? It's been quite a while I see something fishy going on this MYTV company.
Exclusive license to operate DTT for so many years, including MYTV STBs are a sign of monopoly.

Plot twist: Who knows, our government are interested more in offering DTT paid services (including urging the people to buy and use only MYTV STB) to gain additional profit, rather than ASO itself.
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This country biasa lah. Everything must allow select people to make money one.
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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Dec 7 2017, 05:33 PM)
That was the gist of my point - sad that they have to promote it as such, thanks to to Astro's monopoly.
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Astro can just launch new satellite if want to add more channel or depends on Measat 3b.

MYTV got what advantage? Use DVBT2 cannot get more than 100 channel. Plus, astro now have almost 60 HD channel. MYTV claim to have 40 HD channel. sad.gif

Singapore just offer fta HD channel for digital TV. Thailand & Indonesia offer more international channel like MTV Live HD & such.
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QUOTE(Anime in HD @ Dec 7 2017, 05:40 PM)
Astro can just launch new satellite if want to add more channel or depends on Measat 3b.

MYTV got what advantage? Use DVBT2 cannot get more than 100 channel. Plus, astro now have almost 60 HD channel. MYTV claim to have 40 HD channel. sad.gif

Singapore just offer fta HD channel for digital TV. Thailand & Indonesia offer more international channel like MTV Live HD & such.
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dude, you're missing my point. I suggest you read carefully.

My original point is, ASTRO's monopoly has screwed up TV broadcasting concept so bad, that people think Astro is TV is Astro.

DTT is simply an evolution of analog TV of yore, hardly competition to PayTV that is Astro, but since people's concept of TV has been screwed, they think MYTV is a competition to Astro (not directly, anyway). This is so bad that the purveyor of DTT has to point out its FTA nature in order to encourage adoption.

My point has nothing to do with the advantage of one over the other. That is a topic for another day.



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post Dec 7 2017, 07:03 PM

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Joshhd - thx for the Ad pics, interesting to see the volcano eruption "3D experience" print as. I agree it's irrelevant to digital TV and misleading somemore. Hope they can wake up and be serious about it. smile.gif

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