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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V10, The dark lord continues

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post Jun 10 2011, 07:20 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jun 9 2011, 10:15 PM)
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dropping summore, u ever as BTS Nikon center if replace how much ?

How u fix the problem ?
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Didn't fix it. It just look flimsy though, didn't peel off... yet.

QUOTE(gnome @ Jun 9 2011, 10:15 PM)
The rubber parts on my D90 also peeling off, including the grip. Now the latest is rubber on sb900 sleep.gif
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SB900 too? Wah... so far my SB900 is ok.. coming to 2 years old already.
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post Jun 10 2011, 10:13 AM

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how come no one making thier one bokeh kits? i need some help !!!:X
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post Jun 10 2011, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 9 2011, 06:12 PM)
cos they think got semi-pro tag its an upgrade.
like that go D2x also upgrade right? tongue.gif
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definitely. in fact d3100 could give a better image quality over d2x without doubt.
the only down side I could think of is the lacking of control.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 9 2011, 06:15 PM)
actually is upgrade, but then i feel worth if save more bucks and go straight to D700  tongue.gif
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I have a question here.
Knowing that Nikon gives a good noise control in all over their camera (even D3100 is consider good already, could go to ISO3200) Why would one upgrade to FX if they need reach and forgetting about bokeh?

QUOTE(junior5417 @ Jun 10 2011, 10:13 AM)
how come no one making thier one bokeh kits? i need some help !!!:X
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care to elaborate what is bokeh kits?
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post Jun 10 2011, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 10:33 AM)

-I have a question here.
Knowing that Nikon gives a good noise control in all over their camera (even D3100 is consider good already, could go to  ISO3200) Why would one upgrade to FX if they need reach and forgetting about bokeh?
-care to elaborate what is bokeh kits?
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- so do you mean i should get D3100 if i wan upgrade from D70s? laugh.gif (lol i also wonder why most of the people will recommended D90 jump to D700 instead of D7000... because more pro body?? hmm.gif)

- bokeh kits? is it the paper with weird shapes and put in front of the lens? (same concept like cut the weird shape in the aperture blade.) hmm.gif
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post Jun 10 2011, 10:41 AM

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50mm f/1.8G RM768 at Shashinki, therefore street price could be RM700? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 10:33 AM)
care to elaborate what is bokeh kits?
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 10:33 AM)
care to elaborate what is bokeh kits?
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DIY BOKEH KITS to create creative bokeh effect

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jun 10 2011, 10:41 AM)
50mm f/1.8G RM768 at Shashinki, therefore street price could be RM700? sweat.gif
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mr chin quoted me for 720 last week icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 10 2011, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 10 2011, 10:39 AM)
- so do you mean i should get D3100 if i wan upgrade from D70s?  laugh.gif (lol i also wonder why most of the people will recommended D90 jump to D700 instead of D7000... because more pro body?? hmm.gif)
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I believe d70s to d3100 is an upgrade in image quality but it is a down grade in camera control, you don't have focusing dedicated button, you don't have the front dial, top lcd, etc etc etc.
in term of image quality and iso handling I think d3100 and d90 is on par that's why I believe it is superior compared to d70s (oh ya.. I am no longer using d3100, so hopefully you didn't find it subjective)

well.. for me you have to justify yourself before actually go for FX.
if you need more reach forget about FX. because nikon's ISO handling for DX line up is also not bad.

the only reason that I could think of for going FX is wide angle. =D
so, if you are wide angle shooter and having enough budget, by all mean go for FX.

P/S: in the beginning of the year there is new sigma 8-16 f 4.5-5.6 in the town.


QUOTE(junior5417 @ Jun 10 2011, 10:48 AM)
DIY BOKEH KITS to create creative bokeh effect
mr chin quoted me for 720 last week icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ohh.. I know that. you can ask bro razu.
I believe he has experience on bokeh kits.

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 10:56 AM)
I believe d70s to d3100 is an upgrade in image quality but it is a down grade in camera control, you don't have focusing dedicated button, you don't have the front dial, top lcd, etc etc etc.
in term of image quality and iso handling I think d3100 and d90 is on par that's why I believe it is superior compared to d70s (oh ya.. I am no longer using d3100, so hopefully you didn't find it subjective)

well.. for me you have to justify yourself before actually go for FX.
if you need more reach forget about FX. because nikon's ISO handling for DX line up is also not bad.

the only reason that I could think of for going FX is wide angle. =D
so, if you are wide angle shooter and having enough budget, by all mean go for FX.
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my opinoin go to FX because it is better image quality and more dynamic range and can lasts longer. tongue.gif
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post Jun 10 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 10:33 AM)
definitely. in fact d3100 could give a better image quality over d2x without doubt.
the only down side I could think of is the lacking of control.
You sure the D3100 gives better quality of the D2X? biggrin.gif Perhaps marginally as I've seen great photos from the D2X when you don't go over ISO 800.

If I was given between a D3100 and a D2X to choose, I would take the D2X pro body anytime. The handling ergonomics and the sure focusing AF system is enough to get you addicted to pro bodies. That's me lah.

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 10:33 AM)
I have a question here.
Knowing that Nikon gives a good noise control in all over their camera (even D3100 is consider good already, could go to  ISO3200) Why would one upgrade to FX if they need reach and forgetting about bokeh?
The thing is people are still using DX bodies if they need reach. Period. That is why I still keep my D300.

Wildlife photographers in general usually use DX bodies like D300/D300s for reach and for more pixel density if they want to crop but for pros that have all the required glasses to give them the required reach, they will reach for their D3/D3s/D700 especially when low light performance is required.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 10 2011, 10:39 AM)
- so do you mean i should get D3100 if i wan upgrade from D70s?  laugh.gif (lol i also wonder why most of the people will recommended D90 jump to D700 instead of D7000... because more pro body?? hmm.gif)
At the end of the day, it depends on what the person wants. If you want lightweight, the D7000 is nice.

If I were to choose between a DX body like the D7000 or a FX body like a D700, I would take the D700 because of these 4 things in their particular order;

1. Better subject isolation on the D700
2. Better focusing system on the D700
3. Overall better shadow noise even at lower ISOs on the D700
4. Better handling and feel on the D700 in my hands (I don't mind the heavy weight)

The only considerations that *might* sway me away from the D700 to the D7000 are as follows;

1. Higher MP on the D7000
2. 1080p video on the D7000
3. Lighter on the D7000

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 10:56 AM)
I believe d70s to d3100 is an upgrade in image quality but it is a down grade in camera control, you don't have focusing dedicated button, you don't have the front dial, top lcd, etc etc etc.
in term of image quality and iso handling I think d3100 and d90 is on par that's why I believe it is superior compared to d70s (oh ya.. I am no longer using d3100, so hopefully you didn't find it subjective)
If you're speaking purely from D70s to D3100, then your arguments are correct.

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 10 2011, 10:56 AM)
the only reason that I could think of for going FX is wide angle. =D
so, if you are wide angle shooter and having enough budget, by all mean go for FX.
FX wide angles lenses are EXPENSIVE. It is far cheaper to use DX bodies with DX wide angles to get wide angles. But quality wise, it seems that only FX lenses are the way to go.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 10 2011, 11:01 AM)
my opinoin go to FX because it is better image quality and more dynamic range and can lasts longer.  tongue.gif
It was correct when the D3/D3s and D700 were launced. But after the D7000 came out, those advantages of the FX system were not so obvious anymore. Not saying that the D7000 is better but the gap between DX and FX is much closer with FX still having the edge.
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post Jun 10 2011, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jun 10 2011, 02:06 AM)
OT: Since when Camry 2009 got keyless function?
How you guys use your camera lah? Touch wood but I've never needed to replace any oof the rubbers on my Nikon bodies.
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after u use long time then u know already smile.gif
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post Jun 10 2011, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(junior5417 @ Jun 10 2011, 10:13 AM)
how come no one making thier one bokeh kits? i need some help !!!:X
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bokeh master kits. i saw someone selling at GS previously. rm80 if not wrong
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post Jun 10 2011, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jun 10 2011, 11:26 AM)
after u use long time then u know already  smile.gif
Don't know man... I've not been using mine for too long I guess. wink.gif

2005 - D70 (sold in 2007)
2006 - D2Hs
2007 - D40x (sold in 2011)
2008 - D300
2009 - D700

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post Jun 10 2011, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jun 10 2011, 10:41 AM)
50mm f/1.8G RM768 at Shashinki, therefore street price could be RM700? sweat.gif
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J-One RM680
NixxerJixxerWixxer (NJW) posted review on this, he said it rocks and so sharp it can cut your fingers tongue.gif
But pictures worth a thousand words...
http://www.photomalaysia.com/forums/showth...t=159958&page=4

If true, at this price, it's very worth it rclxms.gif
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Hi Andy214,

Are you planning on getting the 50mm f/1.8G? biggrin.gif

Wanted to ask you furthermore about the usage of DFD which I have one myself now. What's the usage of the diffuser to be attached at the front of the flash? huh.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jun 10 2011, 01:02 PM)
Hi Andy214,

Are you planning on getting the 50mm f/1.8G? biggrin.gif

Wanted to ask you furthermore about the usage of DFD which I have one myself now. What's the usage of the diffuser to be attached at the front of the flash? huh.gif
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No sure, for portraits I prefer longer focal length, the effect, subject isolation, perspective, etc is just much better. But the price and the performance is really tempting; Anyway, it can wait, haha tongue.gif

I have not use a DFD before so I can't share my experience, but I've seen the user guide/manual online, I think it explains pretty well; Basically it's suppose to diffuse the light; Actual result, I think you need to test it out yourself.
For the DFD pro, the new version the reflector can be replace/change right? It's velcro type, so you can DIY a bigger reflector thumbup.gif

By the way, forgot to ask you, how's the Wedding Reception shoot? Did it go well? Is the ceiling high or low?
How about the walk-ins? Did they turn down the lights and how was the spot light. How did you "manage" this situation?
Which lens were you using?
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jun 10 2011, 01:04 PM)
Don't know man... I've not been using mine for too long I guess.  wink.gif

2005 - D70 (sold in 2007)
2006 - D2Hs
2007 - D40x (sold in 2011)
2008 - D300
2009 - D700
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hey guyz.. recently i've replacing my d300s screen protector.. when i remove the old screen protector i saw there dust inside the LCD screen.. knn i thought it's weather sealed? how come dust can go in one? damn dulan..
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that is weird, how can dust go inside ? try pouring some water see the water wil go in or not ? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jun 10 2011, 03:13 PM)
that is weird, how can dust go inside ? try pouring some water see the water wil go in or not ? laugh.gif
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okok will try on that.. cry.gif

actually the dust not obvious la.. just curious why weather sealed still can go in..

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