Don't compare here and there like lack of bass, lack of mid, lack of treble, before you want to get a speaker or headphone you must understand the how the manufacturer fit themselves in audio world.
FYI... look at the Rogers ls 3/5, when you have a look on it and their technical specs you can ptui to it but look at the price tag and audiophile siao kia praise it you will understand that. That is music, different country, different culture and different education may appreciate different type of music to suit their taste.

Same things happened to Grado cans. They are cheap looking, they give cheap feeling...but it's definitely not a junk as Sichiri said

Even local mooncake packaging are 2-3 times better than grado's. The plastic material on grado is something you can find from those cheapskate plastic toys, but solid. The finishing is a big let down if you look at the build inch by inch.

Most of my friends who know nothing about grado thought I was crazy paying RM8xx for HF-1. I must agree that judged by the grado-look it should be priced not more than RM100. But grado cans teach us not to judge a book by its cover...

Once these cans are on their head, they were quite amazed by the sound it produced. The sound quality even on par with Sennheiser cans for the same price range. So it's not surprised that Senn vs Grado topics have been greatly discussed in head-fi forum til now.

Personally I like the retro Grado design. IMO retro is the trend that fashion industry is die for nowadays. Watch Madonna Hung up MTV and you will have a good picture of how old skool looks like.

No, I'm not a Grado fanboy . In fact, my HF-1 is in the FS forum and should be gone very soon.

I said they just look like junk. Haven't even tried them on yet. All my doubt and decisions shall be revealed later today once I try them out

Sichiri

Yup, sure audition the SR-60 and let us know...mayb u can try that HP895, thought of purchasing 1 for movie and gaming purpose...

alright, this is my impression of the SR60

"Perfect!" Is the only word I can use to describe these pair of wonders. I really can't understand why you guys said the bass was 'light' The bass was perfect! It 'balances' so well with the treble without muffling it. Its truely something that I've never heard before.
I was skeptical about the comfort of these phones, but putting them on really removes all doubts. The SR60 IS comfortable, I thought it would be something that circulates around your ear, but no, its 2 pieces of reasonably thick sponge leaning on your ear...wearing glasses well not make you uncomfortable, since they're not in the way.

The sponge makes you feel a little warm on the ears after a few minutes of use though ^^;

Even better that I haven't even burn-in them yet. So it sound is just gonna get better and better

The only downside is the 'leak'. The entire living room can hear what I hear under these Grados.

My mom loved it, my younger brother loved it, just as much as I love it. XD

Guys if you can afford Rm290 for these babies, think no more! get it and experience sound like never before!

Grado rocks!

PS : I didn't even bother to try the SHP895 because I'm already more than satisfied with this. XD

This post has been edited by Sichiri: Dec 3 2005, 10:14 PM

if you want to keep your money in your wallet i suggest you just keep listening with your SR60 and dont ever try on anything higher in the grado range i tried each series and ended up emptying my wallet over the 325i which sounded the best overall. luckily they didnt have the RS1 in the shop at the time..

gav..so u own both the 325i and hd650?
hehe..recable them?

heh yeah i own both now, but find myself listening more with the 325i cause the music sounds much more interesting than with the senns. bass is soooo slammin' !! i agree with alamaklor that the grado/alessandro sound is a bit bright at times. my 650 sitting pretty in its box now poor thing getting slightly neglected.

recable? man, the cardas upgrade cable for the senn costs S$250 here.. i think i'll be saving that up for a pair of ER4/SuperFi5pro soon to replace my ER6 for portable use.

poor poor 650...
grado and senn has their own temptation, hope 1 day i can own both
for this moment senn is still the main priority since its a more all-rounder

Sichiri
I bet u haven't listened to other higher grade headphones, so u're satisfied with ur SR60...

Listen to HD555, i am sure u will be more than willing to eat maggie mee next few months...It just simply blows SR60 miles away...

Alamaklor
If u said do not believe in what u listen to HD555 w/o amp, does it mean Kenlui and Geminist listen to fake sounds all the while... (just kidding, don flame me...)

This post has been edited by ryanryan: Dec 4 2005, 12:45 AM

Well I did try out the HD650 at Mediaplex KLCC. Honestly, it doesn't sound like what its suppose to be. Firstly, its so soft, I need to crank up my mp3 player to full just to get to my normal listening pleasure, and then, while playing my' Advent : One Winged Angel' I can clearly hear static/distortion/noise throughout the song. So it did leave a BAD impression the first time I tried it.

The SR60 on the other hand shined like a chest full of golden coins to me ears. XD

Sichiri
Hmm...I see, i try hd650 on their hi-fi, so its quite good...May b not so good in portable device w/o an amp...
Just curious, what headphone did u use b4 SR60? Cos even now i still feel weak bass..mayb i am a basshead...hehe

No way you're listening to HD650 unamped. It's way underpowered to drive by your mp3 player.
I haven't tried 650s, but I did auditioning to HD600 which I lent from medufsaid, twice already . And it sounds crappy direct from iPod headphone out. Even with prodigy7.1 built in amp also not enough juice to drive the 600s.
But they shined when listening with my 'benchmark rig' - Sony mini hifi headphone out. Really a night and day difference if you got what I mean.

This post has been edited by Futura: Dec 4 2005, 01:39 AM

are there any cheap Sennheiser replacement cables available around here?
like that kinda that are used for the HD600
just something that works

Haha ... My soundcard is amped

Anywyas, I tried both with and without amp, can't really tell too much of the difference except amped output has more details compared to un-amped ...

Perhaps the built in amp is not that good ... Gotta find a chance to try a better amp on 555

Edited: Typo

This post has been edited by Geminist: Dec 4 2005, 02:26 AM

maybe u can try DIY ,but the cheaper one u can get is from taiwan kingcable.

This post has been edited by airbag_grado: Dec 4 2005, 03:10 AM

you could get about 80+% sound quality out of a grado unamped, but hd650 unamped? gotta repeat this.....you aint hearing what the phone can really do. I won't bother explaining the reasons for the hiss though. I believe the sr60 is the best phone you've ever heard. It certainly is good, but not THAT good. saying that the sr-60 is "prefect"...hmm...if u've heard the higher end grados, they could be "godsend" to you

nah, ur not a basshead, it is truely weak in bass, eveybody in head-fi knows that

， dun come back to this thread anymore to save your wallet.

lol So if you've already spent RM1.8k on a HP650(Mediaplex price), you need to spend another 1k+ for an amp just to make the phones sound as it were suppose to be? XD

BTW, can you plug in a headphone AMP onto your Audigy soundcard? I checked out the Grado headphone amps while buying the sr60 and it costs 1.6k(ouch). Theres only two holes behind the battery powered amp, one is black and one is red.

What I were using before the SR60? A RM40 earphone from Sony and Cambrige Soundworks PS2000 speakers for the com.

This post has been edited by Sichiri: Dec 4 2005, 09:50 AM

I think the amp by grado is quite over-priced, got people in head-fi do a clone on it follow the spec.

For sr60, i think no need amp, I tried mine, no huge different.