Discussion about watercooling and the results, Version 2
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 Nov 9 2005, 05:20 PM
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thats true...oil pump generate high pressure...and it is so too high for our puny pump to do the same as the oil pump from a coventional engine...pressures that is up to 8bars are achieve in normal engine operations.......
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Nov 9 2005, 07:06 PM
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4,561 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Penangites  
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Nov 9 2005, 05:20 PM) thats true...oil pump generate high pressure...and it is so too high for our puny pump to do the same as the oil pump from a coventional engine...pressures that is up to 8bars are achieve in normal engine operations....... i've seen one new design for the gear box oil exchanger for the new BMW as an engineer told me...... super nice design.....hot and cold chambers sandwich each other for like 30 layers, and the hot chamber is for the oil while the cold chamber is for the watercooling to run. and the inner chamber is so god damn small, to make the oil thin for supreme heat transfer........but as usual.....pressure problems again This post has been edited by AllnGap: Nov 10 2005, 12:37 AM |
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Nov 9 2005, 08:18 PM
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277 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: SJ
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Just setup my nirox 2800 + G4 + dd double heatcore + 10ft of tubing.
and I get and average about 160l/h. this is just a rough estimation and I did it using the way of fill up the bucket..... 160l/h is about 2.667l/m about 0.7045 gal/m thats not bad considering the pump is only RM32 one more thing is the auntie say she can order somemore nirox p2800.....and she somemore say that nirox is quality brand. |
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Nov 9 2005, 09:22 PM
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1,115 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang / Shah Alam
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waiting for Amok and Prodigy to post their Storm G4 results.....
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Nov 10 2005, 12:39 AM
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4,561 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Penangites
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QUOTE(TJye @ Nov 9 2005, 08:18 PM) Just setup my nirox 2800 + G4 + dd double heatcore + 10ft of tubing. i can get Nirox for RM 26, supplier is indeed in penang.and I get and average about 160l/h. this is just a rough estimation and I did it using the way of fill up the bucket..... 160l/h is about 2.667l/m about 0.7045 gal/m thats not bad considering the pump is only RM32 one more thing is the auntie say she can order somemore nirox p2800.....and she somemore say that nirox is quality brand. hmm.......quite good also....considering is has to pass thru a dual heatcore... btw, what tubing size do u use ? |
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Nov 10 2005, 04:39 AM
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277 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: SJ
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1/2' ID 3/4"OD
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Nov 10 2005, 09:16 AM
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23,414 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Taipei
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QUOTE We have a problem shipping to Taiwan in as much as, the last lot of radiators we sent out there have been copied. This has resulted in a cheap, inferior product being released that has no bearing on the quality of goods we produce, and has made its way over here as a competitive product. Therefore we have decided that, to protect all our expensive research and design costs as long as possible, we would refrain from sending any over to countries that would carry this out. Sorry that, in this instance, I cannot help you. I emailed Thermochill recently to ask about shipping charges to Taiwan...afterall, their webshop are supposed to ship internationally and look at their reply above. I was like... WTF?? It's like...where's the bleedin logic in this? Not shipping to a macho lengchai consumer like myself in Taiwan because stoned with counterfeiters. As if lar the manufacturers cannot buy from elsewhere. |
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Nov 10 2005, 01:56 PM
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Tolong jangan off-topic sekalian...thread cleaned up
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Nov 10 2005, 06:13 PM
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277 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: SJ
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I think something bad has happened to my g4
the base copper plate is somehow......corroded I don't know is it that I touch it with my sweaty palms or when I leak test the whole system, I accidently sprinkle some water onto it.... Its got darken marks over it and a darken fingerprint of mine on its base. What should I do? |
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Nov 10 2005, 10:10 PM
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2,515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Ipoh/KL
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Fellow frens...
For my project, the most suitable options for me to consider are the following as well as their issues: 1. Black Ice Extreme I. the problem is the fan i'm planning to use is only 77 CFM. but the Black Ice Pro I issint favourable either. 2. Black Ice Micro II. the 2X 80mm fans that will be used is running at 33 CFM each. This also might be a little low CFM to drive the air thru the rad. Which of the above would give better performance and what do u advice? This post has been edited by MetalZone: Nov 10 2005, 11:50 PM |
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Nov 11 2005, 01:12 AM
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102 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kuala Lumpur
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QUOTE(TJye @ Nov 10 2005, 06:13 PM) I think something bad has happened to my g4 u can try soak it with citric acid.the base copper plate is somehow......corroded I don't know is it that I touch it with my sweaty palms or when I leak test the whole system, I accidently sprinkle some water onto it.... Its got darken marks over it and a darken fingerprint of mine on its base. What should I do? |
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Nov 11 2005, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Nov 10 2005, 10:10 PM) Fellow frens... ok i've finally decided to go with Black Ice Pro II after spending so much time thinking, measuring, and calculating. phew.For my project, the most suitable options for me to consider are the following as well as their issues: 1. Black Ice Extreme I. the problem is the fan i'm planning to use is only 77 CFM. but the Black Ice Pro I issint favourable either. 2. Black Ice Micro II. the 2X 80mm fans that will be used is running at 33 CFM each. This also might be a little low CFM to drive the air thru the rad. Which of the above would give better performance and what do u advice? |
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Nov 11 2005, 03:38 AM
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739 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Macau?
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QUOTE(dinster @ Nov 9 2005, 09:22 PM) waiting for Amok and Prodigy to post their Storm G4 results..... Wait for it.......... leak testing till tommorrow.. some problem with the resevoir cause caps can't fit...  the rest is hocky dorry.  EDIT: attached pics.  QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 10 2005, 09:16 AM) I was like... WTF?? It's like...where's the bleedin logic in this? Not shipping to a macho lengchai consumer like myself in Taiwan because stoned with counterfeiters. As if lar the manufacturers cannot buy from elsewhere.  .. thermochill like dat one?  .. why not try Singapore retailer?QUOTE(TJye @ Nov 10 2005, 06:13 PM) I think something bad has happened to my g4 Arctic Cleaner No. 1 and No. 2... the base copper plate is somehow......corroded I don't know is it that I touch it with my sweaty palms or when I leak test the whole system, I accidently sprinkle some water onto it.... Its got darken marks over it and a darken fingerprint of mine on its base. What should I do? Gerenti shiny and new. This post has been edited by amok: Nov 11 2005, 10:38 AM |
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Nov 11 2005, 11:05 AM
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Hai amok...tak cukup tygons ker
 macam tergantung jer D4 tuh...shian dia......wait next week when I hook up mine I'll see how it goes |
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Nov 11 2005, 11:24 AM
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739 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Macau?
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Nov 11 2005, 11:05 AM) Hai amok...tak cukup tygons ker macam tergantung jer D4 tuh...shian dia......wait next week when I hook up mine I'll see how it goes .. i'm oni using the Clearflex, 1/2" ID and 1km OD  .. suppose to fit the resevoir on the lower part of the case.. as soon as i can find where my "bibik" kept the lower bay tray.. I wonder how TJye is doing.. it get a bit tricky when mounting the block to the proc.. but thats another story.. |
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Nov 11 2005, 12:40 PM
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277 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: SJ
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I'm having problems with the nirox
I use some silicon sealant as told by sargent to seal the pump inlet housing... but still it is leaking water.... |
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Nov 11 2005, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(TJye @ Nov 11 2005, 12:40 PM) I'm having problems with the nirox Forgot to mention, you're supposed to let it dry 2 hours first then apply another layer to make sure all pin hole leaks are cured and fully cure it for 12 hours before using it. SorrryyyyyI use some silicon sealant as told by sargent to seal the pump inlet housing... but still it is leaking water.... Hahahahahaha...prodi9y's rig pimped by me  |
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Nov 11 2005, 03:53 PM
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277 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: SJ
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Very neat indeed his rig......
speaking of the pump, besides silicon sealant what else can I use? can I just use some plastic adhesive? that would of course seal the housing permanently |
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Nov 11 2005, 06:20 PM
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Elite
739 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Macau?
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Nov 11 2005, 01:19 PM) Hahahahahaha...prodi9y's rig pimped by me  .. sargeant.. get your sorry ass back to melaka and pimp my rig can? , pimp = ikan bakar muara duyung.QUOTE(TJye @ Nov 11 2005, 03:53 PM) Very neat indeed his rig...... errr.. dunno if everyone agrees wif me or not but on my nirox i'm using epoxy looks neater, been using it for almost 1 1/2 years wifout failure or leakage.. speaking of the pump, besides silicon sealant what else can I use? can I just use some plastic adhesive? that would of course seal the housing permanently O.T.: finally found the lower bay bracket now had to redo the whole thing.  -sigh- |
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Nov 12 2005, 03:46 AM
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hey guys...
is the Alphacool AP1500/AP900 (made by OASE) EMI shielded? i'm wondering bout the EMI interference... if i decide to use this pump and it doesnt have EMI shielding then i guess i'll make my own shrowd. |
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