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post Jul 27 2005, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jul 27 2005, 11:58 AM)
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5*120mm fan
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OMG this design is so stupid, waste so much of the pressure on goin against the gravity.
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post Jul 27 2005, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(QUDERN @ Jul 27 2005, 09:47 PM)
But if the inflow to the rad is from the top, wouldn't that create high pressure outflow at the bottom ?  unsure.gif
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both of the inlet and outlet is from the bottom which means it'll still loose pressure to the gravity.

instead of goin vertical, why not go horizontal ?

i think thermaltake is try to sell overrated products again.

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post Jul 28 2005, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(pornstar @ Jul 28 2005, 12:51 AM)
hey alln...still not done wit ur wc kit ah??i have been waiting so long for it la..
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copper blocks are completed already and the rads will be completed within this week....]
but i still get that tygon tubing......hmm....... sweat.gif
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post Aug 26 2005, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Aug 26 2005, 04:11 AM)
From this chart, the Eheim 1048 flows the same 94gph as the MCP350 though the Eheim pumps a lot more in free flow. Y? Coz of less Qmax?
 
This Vantec kit was shown at the recent PC Fair wat. Quite a nice looking set up. I wud say it shud b an OK set up coz it's at least using a Hydor L20 pump.
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alamak, that pump's spec is worse than Nirox 2800 and it has to flow thru so many components and a rad.
it's definitely not worth buying for the performance wise.
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post Sep 14 2005, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 12 2005, 02:54 AM)
allngap.. any update on ur wc kits ?
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on a halt now. but major components are ready.
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post Sep 14 2005, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(pornstar @ Sep 14 2005, 09:32 PM)
whats the problem?still the tygon tubings?
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going to get round acrylic tubes as reservoir, rads' case not yet completed.
havent called up tygon tubing supplier yet.
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post Sep 14 2005, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(amok @ Sep 14 2005, 10:26 PM)
drool.gif  drool.gif .. sweeet,  2 x 120mm heatercore/flat tube rad.. i'm gonna check it out at ug vamp.
wa sulah ala BIX2.. angkat itu sapik puniya ... : TT Dikwater = 1/4"ID? erk..  doh.gif
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AFAIK, the so called copper is actually a mixture of copper and brass, because brass is so much cheaper than copper. wink.gif
brass is material used in our piping system, like water taps.

i'm not sure about DD's rads thou.
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post Sep 15 2005, 08:38 AM

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brass is a bit yellowish compared to copper. so they look alike.

i dunt think that Coolwave rads are really " copper "
coz if i were the manufacturer, i wont use pure copper also
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post Oct 10 2005, 01:41 PM

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i wanna ask something

for those who used acrylic reservoirs, do u have to clean in very often ?
are u okay with a totall sealed acrylic reservoir ?
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post Oct 11 2005, 07:55 PM

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who said reserator is good at the first place ?

the surface area is even smaller than a 120mm rad i think
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post Oct 12 2005, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(QUDERN @ Oct 11 2005, 08:15 PM)
The rad is not the problem with the Reserator, it's the pump. The worst pump one can ever find. Don't really care about my CPU now anyway. The temps are within peaceful levels. I'm just pissed at my mosfets and chipset  vmad.gif
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hmm.....as far as i know, the design of the reserator is not meant for low temperatures,
it's meant for sleek design only n to absorb heat rather than to release.

nonetheless, it's stupid to pump water against the gravity coz it's a waste of energy laugh.gif


as for the PWM, u might want to moun a slow RPM fan near ur proc wink.gif


dei, why nobody answer my question ??? doh.gif doh.gif
nobody here uses round acrylic reservoir before ?


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QUOTE(QUDERN @ Oct 11 2005, 08:15 PM)
The rad is not the problem with the Reserator, it's the pump. The worst pump one can ever find. Don't really care about my CPU now anyway. The temps are within peaceful levels. I'm just pissed at my mosfets and chipset  vmad.gif
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IMHO, changing the pump wont help much also. u can try to check out the temperature of the reserator fins without air-con.

the thing is that, heat is trapped inside the metal itself, so it's not related to the pump
n check ur inlet and outlet water temperature, if the difference is like ~1°C, then this thing is doomed de

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post Oct 16 2005, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(moderno @ Oct 16 2005, 05:09 AM)
a saviour for bigwater maybe  whistling.gif

THERMALTAKE VOLCANO 4005

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another new product from thermaltake to confuse ppl with new concept again.... laugh.gif
performance wise i think is a no, coz the water has to go thru so many loops, and the pump they provide is usually the usual sucky pump.....

just look at the recommended setup below, u can actually add this to big water sweat.gif sweat.gif
just imagine that poor pump had to go thru


QUOTE(dinster @ Oct 16 2005, 07:43 AM)
eh guys, this kind of solution good or not yah ?

looks damn cool lah.....

100% passive radiator.....  drool.gif  drool.gif

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http://www.dirkvader.de/frame.php?site=htt...luefterlos.html
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this what what i had in mind, but the one that i planned was the radiator is on top with the fins in vertical position.
it'll make a lot of difference because heat dissipated from the fins can escape ASAP in vertical position, rather than horizontal because the passage for heat is basically blocked


QUOTE(minizian @ Oct 16 2005, 08:18 PM)
i wonder the motherboard will "patah" becos of the big heat exchanger.

the passive cooling i mean is this TT

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is this passive LCS good or the active LCS???
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this is a passive liquid cooling system.

and passive LCS like Reserator and this cant perform.

the reserator structure is only a bottle structure, heat doesnt escape as fast as a radiator because the water is still " thick ", and there are no circulation in it.

for a passive LCS, the pipe must be connected to the surface, and not just to contain the water. surface area plays the most important role in passive cooling.
the more surface area, the faster the dissipation of heat

another thing is that, Alu get all those funny decomposition after a while after usage. so the performance will drop drastically if u dunt open up to clean it.

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post Oct 22 2005, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Oct 22 2005, 08:18 PM)
We're talking about these amok

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But instead of aluminium we were thinking of copper and maybe painted with paint to prevent oxidisation externally, and my owh suggestion, finer fins. Would be excellent for doing a pump -> radiator -> block -> res setup whereby one can cool down the water as it flows out of the block before pumped back into the loop. That's my idea which I want to test actually.

Any lubang for you fabricate a small batch of these over at your place amok?
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what is that thing ?
copper pipes with fins ?

hmm......not bad idea also thumbup.gif
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post Nov 9 2005, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 9 2005, 03:18 PM)
Wahai member member sekalian....

My hunt for a good rad continues..

In theory and from MS Eyeball processing... ini benda (sarjan say oil cooler) boleh jalan or not for my config?

Size is:
160mmX120mmX32mm

Other parts (repeat again)
MCP655
Storm --> K8 winnie
Maze4 Acetal or MCW55 --> 68GT scorching hot.

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oil cooler will kill the pressure of the pump man......... doh.gif

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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Nov 9 2005, 05:20 PM)
thats true...oil pump generate high pressure...and it is so too high for our puny pump to do the same as the oil pump from a coventional engine...pressures that is up to 8bars are achieve in normal engine operations.......
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i've seen one new design for the gear box oil exchanger for the new BMW as an engineer told me......

super nice design.....hot and cold chambers sandwich each other for like 30 layers, and the hot chamber is for the oil while the cold chamber is for the watercooling to run.
and the inner chamber is so god damn small, to make the oil thin for supreme heat transfer........but as usual.....pressure problems again

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QUOTE(TJye @ Nov 9 2005, 08:18 PM)
Just setup my nirox 2800 + G4 + dd double heatcore + 10ft of tubing.
and I get and average about 160l/h.
this is just a rough estimation and I did it using the way of fill up the bucket.....
160l/h is about 2.667l/m about 0.7045 gal/m
thats not bad considering the pump is only RM32

one more thing is the auntie say she can order somemore nirox p2800.....and she somemore say that nirox is quality brand.
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i can get Nirox for RM 26, supplier is indeed in penang.
hmm.......quite good also....considering is has to pass thru a dual heatcore...

btw, what tubing size do u use ?
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post Nov 12 2005, 06:43 PM

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amok, the tubings u use is tygon ????
and is it ID - 0.5inch ?
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post Nov 13 2005, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(pornstar @ Nov 12 2005, 09:16 PM)
uh-oh...if its tygon then allngap`s kit will be completed..hey amok ur rig now performance-wise is *PIMPED* now you can pimp the looks of ur rig  thumbup.gif
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actually it's the matter of pricing and not the matter of availability.
only ppl who plays watercooling a lot knows why they pay a whole lot more for tygon

i guessed that the block will be able to handle higher load procs since the water going in is in high pressure......

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my custom made reservoir
anyone interested pls pm me (can custom the fittings and LEDs as well)


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