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post Oct 29 2005, 02:01 PM

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Gulp....bulhy's nyer all pretty messed up condition for now sweat.gif

and the BIX2 surely out of my budget even for part-exchange
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post Oct 29 2005, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Oct 29 2005, 02:01 PM)
Gulp....bulhy's nyer all pretty messed up condition for now sweat.gif

and the BIX2 surely out of my budget even for part-exchange
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Heh-heh-heh, been like that eversince i've got em... tak sempat to soaked em up yet.

Neway get a load of this: Behold the ultimat Water Block.... G7
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What say cathars...

Just to recap what the G-numbers mean 'cos there's still some confusion over this:

G1 = 1 jet
G2 = 7 jets
G3 = 19 jets
G4 = 35-37 jets (implemented G4 has 35 jets)
G5 = 55-61 jets (implemented G5 has 59 jets)
G6 = 85-91 jets
G7 = 117-127 jets (implemented G7 has 117 jets)
G8 = 155-169 jets (could only machine on aerospace quality equipment)

more to come brows.gif

EDIT: add some more from cathar's :

As for the design improvements over the original base Storm design specification:
. Increased jet inlet plenum area to lower pressure drop (thicker top-plate enables a more voluminous plenum so water can reach all jet inlets with minimal restriction - visible to eye))
. Ported jet intakes to lower pressure drop (jet intakes are now all ellipse radiused using a custom manufactured tool - visible to eye)
. Tweaked jet lengths to lower pressure drop (jet lengths are shorter - internal + external mod, middle plate is significantly thinner too)
. Tweaked jet outlets to lower pressure drop (each jet outlet is chamfered around the outside of the jet tube to offer less restriction for flow exiting the cup structure - barely visible to eye)
. Multiple flow path channels to outlet to both decrease pressure drop, and more evenly distribute jet flow and total base-plate cooling (self-explanatory and very visible to eye)
. Base-plate bracing to boost structural strength for high-pressure CPU mounting (the 12 little posts that surround the jet area brace the base-plate and also serve as additional water turbulation for water outwash cooling effect over base-plate outside of main jetted area)
. Improved top-plate strength for higher pressure mounting capability (just a thicker top-plate, which is offset by thinner middle plate)
. Middle-plate bracing to improve jet/cup alignment when used with high-pressure pumps (additional consequence of the middle plate posts - reduces middle plate flexing meaning jets stay better focused with respect to their cup counterparts under very high pressure operation - meaning >>10psi)
. Improved O-ring specifications to minimise assembly based warping (smaller O-rings and slightly wider O-ring groove dimensions, thereby meaning less clamping pressure required to seal minimising the amount of pressure that gets applied to the base-plate effectively eliminating base-plate flex on assembly)
. Additional O-ring seal between inlet to middle plate plenum and outlet (this one's for the armchair waterblock critics - I never deemed it necessary but people often griped about the design needing one even though it doesn't, so I put it there to keep them happy anyway - may as well)
. Improved cup/wall ratios for higher performance (minor ratio adjustments - added base-plate strength too)
. Improved jet turbulators for higher performance (two prototypes being tested)
. Improved base-plate characteristics for higher performance (adjusted base-plate thickness suitable for G7+silver)
. Improved jet/cup ratios for higher performance (tweaked ratio adjustment)
. Improved low-flow performance without sacrificing high-flow performance (micro-jetted efficiencies are much higher even with lower flow rates - also a consequence of turbulator modifications and jet/cup ratio adjustments)
. Improved small bare-die performance (down to 7x7mm CPU dies) without sacrificing IHS performance. (simulated and tested adjustments to attempt to cover the widest possible variety of CPU types)

enjoy reading y'all thumbup.gif

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post Oct 29 2005, 05:24 PM

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Muahahahaha...pimping time
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post Oct 29 2005, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Oct 29 2005, 05:24 PM)
Muahahahaha...pimping time
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w00t!!!! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif ... planet betul!!!!... guess it's time to soaked up the BIX II.. mine should be arriving next week... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Oct 29 2005, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(amok @ Oct 29 2005, 07:26 PM)
w00t!!!! drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif ... planet betul!!!!... guess it's time to soaked up the BIX II.. mine should be arriving next week... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Mungkin tak kot pasal Poslaju closed for raya starting Monday amok. So for the time being, me and TJye are the only one's in possesion of the Storm. Prodi9y dunno where he went
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post Oct 29 2005, 10:39 PM

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MUAHAHAH
its me and almosthere with the g4

Who knows, maybe amok will be getting his one
Poslaju works during sat also
hehe

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post Oct 29 2005, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Oct 29 2005, 07:30 PM)
Mungkin tak kot pasal Poslaju closed for raya starting Monday amok. So for the time being, me and TJye are the only one's in possesion of the Storm. Prodi9y dunno where he went
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blink.gif blink.gif cry.gif cry.gif ... oh tidakkkkk... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif , yeah the pos office will accept postal order/request but who gonna post the merchandise.... argghhhhh.

QUOTE(TJye @ Oct 29 2005, 10:39 PM)
MUAHAHAH
its me and almosthere with the g4

Who knows, maybe amok will be getting his one
Poslaju works during sat also
hehe
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hehe... congrats you guys.. so, any result yet from the storm? please post it here... biggrin.gif
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post Oct 30 2005, 03:10 PM

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No pump for me yet.....
haven't gone shopping for it..
Got exams recently

Lets seee almosthere got anything to post or not

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post Oct 30 2005, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(TJye @ Oct 30 2005, 03:10 PM)
No pump for me yet.....
haven't gone shopping for it..
Got exams recently

Lets seee almosthere got anything to post or not
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Rig back in Melaka leh...how to do any testing for now? tongue.gif
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post Oct 30 2005, 04:22 PM

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so I think most probably we will wait for amok....
where is prodigy and his rig and his block?

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dunnit study ar? ... wait until i get new com 1st ^^
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post Oct 30 2005, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(TJye @ Oct 30 2005, 04:22 PM)
so I think most probably we will wait for amok....
where is prodigy and his rig and his block?
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That fella's been MIA and Din can't reach him yet. So Prodi9y's out of the race at the moment. Me at the best will have mine up and running on the 14th itself
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ayo.. i thought you guys started pimping the block ledy... nvm, i'll wait for dinster's post. Right now i'm dimantling my phase rig to test the Storm G4... and i'll be using:

1. Storm G4 w/block (of course)
2. BIX II
3. Swiftech MCP650
4. Bay Res (the poly one)
5. Clearflex tubing 1/2" ID.

Wish us all the luck..
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post Oct 31 2005, 12:22 AM

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Amok: how much did your mcp650 cost you and where you get them?

Looks like your rig will be the ultimate cpu cooling solution

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post Oct 31 2005, 01:10 AM

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eh dengar cerita, 4 orang sudah ada Storm G4.....

betul ke ?

ada baik ka itu block ?
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post Oct 31 2005, 01:17 AM

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block itu cantek la
Best sekali
haha

I've got a question
how tight should i thighten the fittings onto the block?
and how tight should i screw down the block onto the CPU?
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Anyone's read any reviews for MCW55 VGA block yet?

Thinking of either that or the Maze4 (more expensive when include the 6800 bracket).

MCW55 natively 3/8 (1/2 fittings included) while the Maze4 acetal's 1/2.



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QUOTE(TJye @ Oct 31 2005, 12:22 AM)
Amok: how much did your mcp650 cost you and where you get them?

Looks like your rig will be the ultimate cpu cooling solution
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MCP650?.. blink.gif blink.gif it was a long-long time ago in a far-far away galaxy when a forumer named .1. did a bulk on this pump... together-gether who joined this bulk is arj, prodi9y, me and a few others... cost can't remember but around RM 320.00~ RM 330.00 along-long time ago.

QUOTE(dinster @ Oct 31 2005, 01:10 AM)
eh dengar cerita, 4 orang sudah ada Storm G4.....
betul ke ?
ada baik ka itu block ?
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alahai.... baru 3 orang je dah ada... 3/5 that is

1. sniper on the roof Almostthere: Pokok pulak...adei...kang ada yang kena snipe baru tau
2. almostthere
3. TJye.

Belum ada:

1. Me, Myself and I ( whistling.gif )
2. prodi9y (MIA?)

EDIT: ha.. haha.. tak sengaja.. sorry2... tgh sibuk bersih laman rumah.. tebang pokok etc.

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post Nov 5 2005, 02:51 AM

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Selamat hari raya everyone
today I went to the aquarium shop near my place and the shopkeper was telling me that only eheim whould last when run inline, all the other pumps there need to be run submerge in the water.
Is there anything related to the life expentancy of the pump when run submerge vs outside, inline?
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QUOTE(TJye @ Nov 5 2005, 02:51 AM)
Selamat hari raya everyone
today I went to the aquarium shop near my place and the shopkeper was telling me that only eheim whould last when run inline, all the other pumps there need to be run submerge in the water.
Is there anything related to the life expentancy of the pump when run submerge vs outside, inline?
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Yes, if the pumps designed to be submerged, it requires to be submerged so as to keep it within operating temperature otherwise you'd risk imminient pump failure

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