Happy Merdeka y'all.. just bumpin in to check out the forum.. missed it a lot.
hms.. wanna try ar? i've got a 320Watter in hand , i dun dare cause:

1. Scared the heat dissipated from the hot side isn't moved away timingly that it will started to heat up the cold side of the pelt.

2. Amb temp in my room is about 32C.. ..

3. letsay 5v on a 12 v 320Watter:

5/12 = 133W .. (assuming the pelt is ideal and delta T is linear)

thus oced proc Watt + Pelt Watt = letsay 115W (Oced Mobile at 2.0V) + 133W
= 248W of heat to dissipate... then again i might be wrong cause theory not always goes along with practice.
in another word... try lar try lar try lar try lar.

wadda i missed?

@HolyAk: Quite an OK result on your w/cooling. , pump up the Vcore somemore .. more interested in All'n'gap dual 12cm rad you've got there, are those flat tubes one or normal copper cylinder type?

Just a question to avoid spam warning, does anyone got a clue what is the tubing size for those TT BigWafer kit?

O.T. Yup it's good to be back.

.. sweeet, 2 x 120mm heatercore/flat tube rad.. i'm gonna check it out at ug vamp.

wa sulah ala BIX2.. angkat itu sapik puniya ... : TT Dikwater = 1/4"ID? erk..

if your block came with a replaceable top e.g. DD series, why not just unscrew it open and use a a fine bristle toothbrush..

erghhh... stop it will ya this one is a real "stick and play".. but at ED78 ... erghhhh stop it....

Yup i'm still on.. how else can i get my hands on the G4... unless someone else can get me the G7...

^.. ehem-ehem.. upstairs is showing off his rig... just wait till the G4 get into action.. if not mebbe a G-string will do .

Yes mr anthonio.. shorten those "cacing" tubes a bit it'll increase your heads pressure.

Actually it depends on yer budget, you'll need at least a good 3.1m Max Heads Pressure pump.. if you got the moolah go the MCP655 at around RM350.00 if you're a bit adventures (or in another word.. "skint") try the cyber aqua fer around RM70.00 (refer to the budget pump shoot out thread)

aiyah so many question lar.. , okay here is my opinion (may not neccessaryly be THE answer to your q's):
1. w/block: get the G4 full stop.
2. BIX which series? BIX 1 or BIX2? If gonna do with a VGA block might as well get the BIX 2.
3. GPU w/block which is better? erk .. if me i'll get the cheaper one
4. MCP655 pump.. yup
5. Resevoir : DIY = cheap, Readymade = Bling-bling factor.
6. Tubing 1/2" ID : Tygon? you have a lot of moolah... can spare me some?

Add

1. Fans : 2 x 120 mm at if possible 75 cfm to cool of the rads
2. Clamps to tie up your tubings

ooopsss... i think it has blow up you budget a bit...

As for the peltier Q's.. it is not necesarry unless you wanna go sub zero... which is a different agenda.

hehehehehe... hopefully can get it before Hari Raya.

anthonio@ head pressure = tekanan kepala. no lah sorry, its the water pressure at the pump discharge head measured in heights (e.g. 1.8m, 2.0m, 3.1m etc.) for a highly restrictive system, the bigger heads the better/efficient.

otherwise@ that's an impressive set up you've got there .. now you've got 35C at stock, lets see how far you can O.C. Pump Up the Vcore.

Glad to see you finally got you toes into w/cooling pizzaboy, yup, just check out the budget pump shoot out and the soon to be posted the "budget pump shoot out: Revisited" for guide in getting a cheap adequate pump for your w/cooling needs.. yup the sargeant is right.. concentrate on the w/block first.

EDIT: O.T.: Sargeant.. hang in there buddy, reinforcement is on the way with added fire powarhhhhh... muahahahaaa

This post has been edited by amok: Oct 3 2005, 05:38 PM

, i dunno if it's a bit too early to have a discussion about the G4, but what the heck .. let's get on with it... say shall we start with the suitable pump for this block:

1. The G4 was design to give optimum Delta T with pure impingement properties to out perform the older cascade design by cathar.. which main obejctive is to achieve a higher heat transfer rate which doesn't require a higher flow rates. Thus based on Forster's (aka Cathar) quotes at [H]ard|Forum:

"........, such as would be suitable for use with an Eheim 1046 and 3/8" ID tubing for which 2-3GPM would be the typical sort of flow rate"

2. Flow rate convert from Gallon to liter = 2G x 3.7854 = 7.5708L/min = 454.248 L/hr.. hrmmm.. even a nirox P2800 with 1200L/hr Qmax and at 1.8m Heads max at RM 28.00 will work great for this baybeh... heheh... then again lets take into consideration that a "pure" impingement design blocks are highly restrictive... even higher than those of the cascade design.. we need a good Heads to maintain that flow rate after taking into consideration the heads lost in the line and heatexchanger/rads.. Not sure if that 1.8m Heads Max will cut it

3. Ok lets look at the comparison chart (generated from procooling):



As you can see the G4 is in a league of its own at flow rate of higher than 1G/m or 3.7854 L/m and above and i'm comparing it with the best COMMERCIAL W/block availabe.. in my opinion, it's oso an added advantage to use a good 2000 L/hr pump to run this babey... remember it's a pure impingement design, Higher Q better Temps(oh O.T. a bit: when it comes to performance at higher flow rate, DD RBX pwned Swifty MCW6002 on Delta T)...

4. Regarding the Heads Max for the pump, unfortunately, i hadn't had enough data or resources regarding the resisitivity of the block yet.. will google me self and add later.. as what TJeye reckon using a D5 on this block will be great but in my opinion wasn't necessary why? 1. RM 3XX.00!! 2. RM 3XX.00 and 3. RM3XX.00.

Hahahahahahahahaaa... enjoy reading and let's discuss further.

. hope that get it sorted,

but if the fluctuation is still too prominent, try re-setting the w/block with cpu.

.. yup even a RM28.00 Nirox P2800 pump will do good with the G4..

As uzairi mentioned it is ok. but what is your clock at that temp?

wow TJye, you've found someone that can bring in the 50Z?.. can share more details on where about to get em? contact info that is.. if you don't mind. TQ.

RM200 for a storm???!!!! GRRRRRRss lucky b@5t@rd!!!! , welcome to the wet side... again...

TJye: for a second i thought you've got some one in M'sia that sell the 50Z pump..

hey, serious h/ware you've got there... yup i'd second TJye might need a bigger heatxchanger if you're into hard core ocing with : 1. cpu w/block 2. gpu w/block 3. nb w/block... then again if your 120X1 is jammed with a serious ass fan (can I use ass?) e.g. wif a 135cfm fan I think it should do just sweet.. apart from the noise the fan make..

Oh yeah, oh yeah come to popa.. i'll pump you up good

TJye@ whad pump you're gettin'?


EDIT: GUYS!!! this is worth checkin'.. TQ for evildonkey
CLICK LINK

This post has been edited by amok: Oct 19 2005, 09:48 PM

me oso using the nirox first... still aiming for the 50Z, read somewhere can mod a bit to improve the flow max... i'm no cheapskate, just a bit skint that all
Those euro car (alfa, vw or peugot) will do great, need to mod abit for the barbs though. but it will do great

Ya.. what heatxchange? share a bit la.

me KL? erghh.. buzy ler.. unfortunately someone passed away recently, so must haul up my ass a few times to Putrajaya this week.. someone very2 dear to all of us. may Allah bless her soul, Datin Seri.

Hrm.. for finer fins and greater surface area we'll need a CNC machine, unfortunately for me, i'm no longer with the uni so no machine shop ler.. if use just ordinary milling mach, ergh can't get a super fine fins. Let me check out those private machine shops around Melaka and see what it'll come out with.

it would work great... , providing casing temp doesnt heat up the HX instead . By the way isn't it a swifty rad box in the pics? the one that's been used to "tie" the rad + rad box + casing.?

Hey De_Cruelz, welcome back, long time no post, how's yer watercooled SLI? i'm not sure the pic sarge's posted is his rig though but it does give me some rough ideas on how i'm gonna set up my STORM rig

LOBANG???? I'd always had my lobang. .kk serious a bit now, i'm still negotiating with a private machinist in Melaka, apparently they do take orders for this sort of job, but the waiting list... aiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... aaaaaaaaaa.....aaaaaaaa.... aaaaaaa, so ma fan lei.. cause i'm thinking of doing a few highly restrictive evap head and w/block oso.

if i'm not mistaken the swifty is using Thermochill rad.. IMHO oni.. which a bit costly but slighty better than the BIX.

Welcome to the WET side of the force... erk.. read the pinned thread about watercooling tips and trick if you're serious about watercooling to choose your w/block, radiator, pump etc. but if you wanna prefer the kit get those swifty or Danger Den.. it's worth it. The rest, sorry .. no comment .

EDIT: just wanna add, our super bulker, Mr. Dinster is bringin' in some cool w/cooling parts and accessories, check it out

This post has been edited by amok: Oct 26 2005, 08:33 PM

dang!!!!... double DANG!!! , how come he get it first? neway congrats on those beauty!!!.

Here're some rads pic that might help you out a bit.


The Black Ice Xtreme

The Black Ice Pro (Slightly thinner than the BIX at around 25mm)

the Thermochill HE120.1

The brand new Thermochill PA160 (Single Pass Double Row XcrossFlow!!!)
and .. the somehow i'm a bit confused about its origin.

The New Swiftech's MCR120-QP... and at first I thought it would be a thermochill's then again doesn't look like one. Anyone know ah?

bro, if you got the dough and wanted the best bang fer bucks, get the BIX!!!
I hope you can share your source(s) with us, i'm oso "pening" with babelfish translation.

Lalalalalalala... .. let me see what do I have in stock..

1. Bulkhy rads 3/8" OD
2. Bulkhy rads 1/2" OD
3. DD Double heatercore 1/2" OD
4. BLACK ICE XTREME II 1/2" OD
5. OP's copper tube rad 3/8"

opss sorry no BIX in hand... lalalallalaa

okey... ,

As requested,

1. The DangerDen Double Heatercore: which i'm using for my PrescHot rig.


2. The rest of the stock rads.

a. The top is The BIX II
b. On the Left is the Bulkhy's with 1/2" OD (+ a 120mm fan)
c. and the Right is the Bulkhy's with 3/8" OD

EDIT: haven't clean the calc deposit on the stock rads yet

This post has been edited by amok: Oct 28 2005, 11:11 PM