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remysix
post Jun 25 2007, 07:52 PM

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m considering joining the WC but first and foremost, would like to know (based on experience gathered by you all people) other than having a good or decent WC materials, what else should i consider...
if u go thru my siggy, u can see that i'm using CM Praetorian 732...i wonder whether it will hold my WC stuff nicely...if anyone has came across someone using WC wif this casing, pls let me know their setup...
really apreciate it...

@sHawTY, pls dont ask me to do it 'naked'...i mean without the casing like u tongue.gif ...btw, r u getting the LCD or the Temjin? biggrin.gif

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post Jun 25 2007, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jun 25 2007, 07:56 PM)
Who's getting temjin? blink.gif
Aku tgh pilih antara LCD ngan LL V2000 lar, temjin never came across thru my head. laugh.gif
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aiseyman...tersilap...it's LL V2000...sorry kalau rasa terhina (no offense SS owner notworthy.gif ) whistling.gif
anyway...back to my ori question...

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post Jun 25 2007, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Jun 25 2007, 09:35 PM)
I feel paiseh everyone quotes me as sifu... LOL  laugh.gif
I think you should be able to fit a 2x120mm radiator at the top, but you might not be able to use 1 or 2 drive bays, except for short devices like fan controllers. You have to mod two 120mm fan intakes/exhausts for the top.
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ic ic...hmmm...sounds promising...will think it thru...proper planning doesnt hurt, rite wink.gif ...need to go thru the casing and see where to put the stuff like the pump...resorvoir and all...

btw, Metal, where r u from? puchong jaya???i'm from puchong perdana...just in case IF i decided to go for WC...might need u help blush.gif ...
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post Jun 26 2007, 06:37 AM

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Jun 26 2007, 03:03 AM)
Actually i'm no longer staying there, back in Ipoh already, although once in a while I do stay there if I come down to KL.
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haha...stret away changed ur profile...
nvm, will give a serious thought about it...irangan has already told me twice about changing to WC when i changed my C2D to C2Q...will contact u for sure when i decide to go WC thumbup.gif
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post Sep 1 2007, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Sep 1 2007, 07:17 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=13077914
48 to 49'c idle with ur kit does seems a bit out of theory... have u tried to remount the cpu block???
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that's the most logical thing to do but will do it as the last resort and it seems it is the last resort.
just got back from shopping with my family...gonna do it tomorrow.
mmm...to re-mount it, i just need to take out the block - just like that. no need to other things, rite? blush.gif
really a n00b in WC tongue.gif


Added on September 2, 2007, 6:54 pmwell, took out the cpu block, clean it and the proc as well. put back the TIM as per Artic guide. placed the cpu block back. this time i use the adjustable nuts. screwed them tight as possible. now at 3.6G@1.425v. i got 43-44c idle temp; load temp to around 62-64c. is it a normal temp for WC? i wonder why the idle is kinda high. last time using air-cooling, idle never passed 40c even thou the temp delta between idle and load is higher than that of WC but 44c idle seems...unacceptable. really got headache wondering what i did wrong.

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post Sep 3 2007, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Sep 2 2007, 10:54 PM)
almostthere, unlike the storm, the apogee gt's s939 mounting is just some two screws, which i personally didn't like either. it was a PITA to get it mounted properly.
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MTZ, based on ur advice...now i'm thinking how to do it since my rad outlet is facing the right side of the casing. another headache for me i guess.
anyway, PMed u for 1-to-1 tutorial but if u wish to share with others, dun mind posting in here.
thanks.

re-quote the advice given in another thread for everyone's benefit; at least for a n00b like me.

QUOTE(by MetalZone)
remysix: you just assembled the set and bled it that way with the casing upright and you didn't tilt it at all? if that is so, i can pretty much bet that there is still air inside the radiator.
since the inlet to your rad is on the side facing u, and the outlet on the other side, you have to tilt the entire casing towards you to get the air out. but you would also have to be aware of air going back into the loop from the reservoir.
thus, for those having their rads on top, i recommend plumbing the inlet side of the rad to be on the side away from you, and the outlet of the rad would be the one nearer to you. thus this way you can dismount the reservoir and tilt the casing full flat to the ground away from you to allow the air out of the rad. if you have someone to help you, you can then ask him to hold the res upright while you tilt the case around according to the flow of the res to get the air out.
reason behind this is because these radiators are two pass rads. the water enters from one of the inlets, flow down to the end of the rad on one half of the radiator, then at the chamber at the end, the water makes a turn round to the other half of the rad and flows back to the outlet. so when you bleed your radiator, bear this in mind to tilt the radiator according to the flow direction. air will always be above water, so use basic science lah to flow the air out.

Added on September 3, 2007, 10:25 amfollowed MTZ's advice on the bleeding. but instead of pulling the rig towards me, i unscrew the res, took it out and put it nicely in a container to hold it upwards and then tilted all the way the rig with the backend lying on the floor. started the pump and as expect from WC Sifu's advice, the air came out rushing from the rad. quite a lot of air was still trapped in the rad. once awhile, i tilted to the left and right to ensure no more air trapped. looks ok now but i just let it bleed summore. just to be sure. hope everything is ok after this.
thanks again MTZ.

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post Sep 4 2007, 07:30 AM

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rain all nite long last nite till this morning...so, the temp seems to be good...idling at 38c.
i'm giving another option for my setup. after all the hassle to have the rad inside the casing, i think i might wanna try to put it outside. the rad is really generating a lot of heat inside and wif 1x120mm exhaust fan, the inside is like a oven which i think personally really not good for watercooling.
i need to find a good and free day to do that, maybe this weekend.

@HaHaNoClue,
yup, the temp that i got is kinda frustrating compared to the aircooling taking into consideration the hassle of mounting the rad inside, mounting the res and pump and ensuring no leaking and then bleeding process summore plus the price for the whole setup. with all that factors. maybe there are still a lot for us to learn. are u planning to bow ur GT?
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post Sep 5 2007, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Sep 4 2007, 12:09 PM)
i'm not sure if i wanna bow my gt but maybe i'll do it when i overhaul my rig... but eventhough the idle temp doesn't show much superior but the load temp is much much better... yah, i mean it's really a bit of pain in the ass for 1st timer wc... got to read tons of stuffs, then the money, then the installation, etc but luckily we found lots of help from lyn member... well, that's still a nice adventure though... biggrin.gif however, my nb n my gpu benefit a lot from this wc kit... i juz dunno y my 975 is so hot, maybe due to the high vmch i pump in, but now it's pretty cool n i can even lower the vmch by quite a margin...
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yup, a lot of help from all the sifus and members from LYN community. really appreciate if...

got a few update today. this morning, i plugged in another Q6600 G0. and to my surprise, i got a 10c drop shocking.gif
it must be the mounting issue i had earlier even thou i have tried a few times remounting the other proc, still got the same temp. but with this one, finally got my dream temp, without even bother to take out the rad outside.

i will post some pic afterwards. today, i'm satisfied being a WC user after all the headache, really paid off. thumbup.gif
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post Sep 5 2007, 11:34 AM

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post Sep 5 2007, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Sep 5 2007, 05:38 PM)
nice temp... u sorted out ur problem???
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basically yes.
now i'm sure it was the contact between cpu block and the proc itself. using another Q6600 G0 and it worked out ok. previous proc, mounted and re-mounted a few times, still have the same temp.

so, i think now i can move to the next phase. brows.gif

 

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