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post Mar 25 2011, 09:51 PM, updated 15y ago

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Use this thread and follow the format below and I guess most members can help up in answering it.

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To request recommendation, what u need to post:

1. Brand. (HTC/Samsug/LG/Motorola/Others?)
2. Budget. (1.5k-2k)
3. Specs. (Processor / RAM / OS Version / screen size)
4. What you need in the phone (Sense UI ? Touch Witz ? Battery life? Form factor?)


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IMPORTANT
DO NOT CLUTTER THE THREAD WITH IRRELEVANT QUESTIONS! DIRECT THOSE TO THE GENERAL QUESTIONS THREAD INSTEAD

Thank you and have a nice day smile.gif

I often stress this a lot and not many actually take note but PLEASE!

Include your requirements when you ask for a recommendation!

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HTC deisre HD , incredible s and SGS..
which one better?


Added on March 26, 2011, 4:20 amanyone know the price for HTC Desire HD?

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QUOTE(weeling2828 @ Mar 26 2011, 03:29 AM)
HTC deisre HD , incredible s and SGS..
which one better?


Added on March 26, 2011, 4:20 amanyone know the price for HTC Desire HD?
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The word 'better' is very subjective, like asking if KFC is better than McDonalds since they are both fast food. Being specific helps us answer your questions better. What do you need in phone, speed? out of the box features? Good camera? Basic stuff really.
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QUOTE(weeling2828 @ Mar 26 2011, 03:29 AM)
HTC deisre HD , incredible s and SGS..
which one better?


Added on March 26, 2011, 4:20 amanyone know the price for HTC Desire HD?
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Desire HD: Same proc as Incredible S, Worse battery life and build quality, camera not as good as Incredible S.
Incredible S: Same proc as Desire HD, S-LCD screen, Better battery life and build quality, camera is the best of the 3, has front camera, but has a locked bootloader(or so i heard)
SGS: Best GPU to date, S-AMOLED screen, has front camera, plenty of roms, but has gps and lag issues. Can be fixed though.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Mar 26 2011, 08:30 AM)
Desire HD: Same proc as Incredible S, Worse battery life and build quality, camera not as good as Incredible S.
Incredible S: Same proc as Desire HD, S-LCD screen, Better battery life and build quality, camera is the best of the 3, has front camera, but has a locked bootloader(or so i heard)
SGS: Best GPU to date, S-AMOLED screen, has front camera, plenty of roms, but has gps and lag issues. Can be fixed though.
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Pardon me but, except front-facing camera part, how Incredible S's camera is better than other two? blink.gif
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Both the camera's are the same. Price wise, the desire HD is more expensive atm because the IS is not released yet. AP sets are almost the same price. The only difference is the front-facing camera and the battery.

But the Desire HD life can last a long way if you calibrate the battery or flash a custom rom, something the IS can't do atm due to its locked bootloader. To me, the bootloader is important, I'm leaning more to the DHD side. Plus how can the build quality be worse? DHD is aluminium body..

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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Mar 26 2011, 08:30 AM)
Desire HD: Same proc as Incredible S, Worse battery life and build quality, camera not as good as Incredible S.
Incredible S: Same proc as Desire HD, S-LCD screen, Better battery life and build quality, camera is the best of the 3, has front camera, but has a locked bootloader(or so i heard)
SGS: Best GPU to date, S-AMOLED screen, has front camera, plenty of roms, but has gps and lag issues. Can be fixed though.
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hmm..how long the Desire HD battery can last?i thinking buy Desire HD..RM1.4k, is it worth it?
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QUOTE(weeling2828 @ Mar 26 2011, 01:23 PM)
hmm..how long the Desire HD battery can last?i thinking buy Desire HD..RM1.4k, is it worth it?
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Worth it.. and the battery depends on usage. Heard that the people in this forums can run the battery for 40 hours on moderate usage. Heavy users can use it for a whole day. They have the secret formula to make it run that long...
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which do u guys rccmnd for me iphone or htc..?

im a little bit dont know which is the best.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(wilc0 @ Mar 26 2011, 01:57 PM)
which do u guys rccmnd for me iphone or htc..?

im a little bit dont know which is the best.. sad.gif
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iPhone if you're more to games, don't mind paying for games, don't like much customization or have no means to be unique.

Android if you like customization and being unique since there are tons of customization. Making it nearly impossible to have two same phones... We have games and all the iPhone games are being ported already.
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IS have 4inch screen, so I prefer DHD that provides 4.3inch.
But do IS have the chance to do bootloader in the future? Any experts on this can answer this?
Also the front facing cam, since they don't support 3G calls, so it doesn't make any difference isit?
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QUOTE(kelvinlee1201 @ Mar 26 2011, 02:46 PM)
IS have 4inch screen, so I prefer DHD that provides 4.3inch.
But do IS have the chance to do bootloader in the future? Any experts on this can answer this?
Also the front facing cam, since they don't support 3G calls, so it doesn't make any difference isit?
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Can... but you gotta wait... it will be unlocked one day by the people at XDA dev. So ya
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what android phone is below rm700 which can tread-in my 6 months old Nokia x6 to buy it??? is Samsung Galaxy 5 is the only choice???
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Noob question
when will xperia play launch in malaysia??
some website already unboxed it cry.gif http://www.se-first.com/Xperia-PLAY-unboxing-video.html
gsmarena said March but its almost April rclxub.gif http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_play-3608.php

xperia play finally poison me to join android drool.gif
n how much the price??
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between google nexus s and htc incredible s. which one is better in

1. browsing ( support flash content )
2. battery performance ( i need android phone that can last long )
3. games
4. front camera
5. lower price

thank you. smile.gif
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QUOTE(CGLegacy @ Mar 26 2011, 03:29 PM)
what android phone is below rm700 which can tread-in my 6 months old Nokia x6 to buy it??? is Samsung Galaxy 5 is the only choice???
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RM700+ Nokia x6? Samsung Galaxy Ace + you still have a little cash left to get some accessories. Go to Garage sales and find x137somethingsometh

QUOTE(iguana_dude_619 @ Mar 26 2011, 05:55 PM)
Noob question
when will xperia play launch in malaysia??
some website already unboxed it  cry.gif http://www.se-first.com/Xperia-PLAY-unboxing-video.html
gsmarena said March but its almost April  rclxub.gif  http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_play-3608.php

xperia play finally poison me to join android  drool.gif
n how much the price??
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900 USD. RM2700. Will reach around 2.3k by 2 months of its launch though. Like x10 sweat.gif

QUOTE(redex_19 @ Mar 26 2011, 05:58 PM)
between google nexus s and htc incredible s. which one is better in

1. browsing ( support flash content )
2. battery performance ( i need android phone that can last long )
3. games
4. front camera
5. lower price

thank you. smile.gif
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Nexus S has Vanilla and an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER. Better GPU,S-AMOLED, better battery life, but a higher price. Also has inferior build quality. Dev phone so all OS updates goes to Nexus S 1st.
Incredible S has better build quality, Camera, and also the HTC branding. whistling.gif. Locked bootloader though.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Mar 26 2011, 07:26 PM)
900 USD. RM2700. Will reach around 2.3k by 2 months of its launch though. Like x10 sweat.gif
shocking.gif shocking.gif I thought around US$500-600 doh.gif
better start collecting n wait 6-12 months after launch in malaysia
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QUOTE(iguana_dude_619 @ Mar 26 2011, 07:32 PM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif I thought around US$500-600  doh.gif
better start collecting n wait 6-12 months after launch in malaysia
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Don't have to. Once the AP sets start distributing, within 2-3 months it'll be around 2.3k or so. Then, after 5-6 months, 2k or so.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Mar 26 2011, 07:26 PM)
RM700+ Nokia x6? Samsung Galaxy Ace + you still have a little cash left to get some accessories. Go to Garage sales and find x137somethingsometh
erk... no... i want to trade in the x6 and buy a phone.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(CGLegacy @ Mar 26 2011, 07:44 PM)
erk... no... i want to trade in the x6 and buy a phone....  sweat.gif
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You mean your RM700 budget is directly from you x6? I thought you meant that you have RM700 and an x6 to trade in. If so, get the Samsung Galaxy 5 and flash it to Motafoca 2.0.9. I'm using it and its quite good. Very satisfying battery life.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Mar 26 2011, 07:42 PM)
Don't have to. Once the AP sets start distributing, within 2-3 months it'll be around 2.3k or so. Then, after 5-6 months, 2k or so.
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blink.gif owh like that.. within 1 year hp price can drop 15-30%
better wait until below rm1800 tongue.gif still a student
moneyflies.gif is a problem
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QUOTE(iguana_dude_619 @ Mar 26 2011, 08:00 PM)
blink.gif owh like that.. within 1 year hp price can drop 15-30%
better wait until below rm1800 tongue.gif still a student 
moneyflies.gif is a problem
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Work part time during the breaks la.. or work during events.. lol.. 1 year wont really drop a lot la.. maybe 300 bucks drop la..
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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Mar 26 2011, 08:43 PM)
Work part time during the breaks la.. or work during events.. lol.. 1 year wont really drop a lot la.. maybe 300 bucks drop la..
semester breaks only TWO WEEKS.. not like ipta got 2 months dry.gif
my internship is next year doh.gif
wat to do cry.gif

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hi, need some help/advice.
looking for 2 android phones:

1st
Brand: (having DEFY on mind now)
Price: ~1.5k
Any other better recommendation other then DEFY around this budget?

2nd
Brand: Any
Price: 1k - 1.3k
Specs: preferably larger screen size, android 2.1/2.2
Others: not too laggy, flash compatible

Thanks
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1. Brand. (HTC)
2. Budget. (1.5k-2k)
3. Specs. (1GHZ / high as well RAM / latest android / larger the better)
4. What you need in the phone (Sense UI ? Touch Witz ? Battery life? Form factor? = ALL i need)

P.S. in my mind kinda liked HTC desire HD

Main reason of changing phone is my current hp kept turning off by itself.

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Guys, getting really really confused right now between the Samsung Galaxy Ace and the Sony Ericsson Xperia x10.

Just found out that the x10 is getting the Gingerbread update after all, and that is a VERY big news. Further more, the price difference of the SGA and an AP set of the x10 is only around 100 ringgit.

So guys, opinions? :/

Though I'm very curious with the locked bootloader of the x10..

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QUOTE(#bAskkEtt# @ Mar 26 2011, 11:02 PM)
hi, need some help/advice.
looking for 2 android phones:

1st
Brand: (having DEFY on mind now)
Price: ~1.5k
Any other better recommendation other then DEFY around this budget?

2nd
Brand: Any
Price: 1k - 1.3k
Specs: preferably larger screen size, android 2.1/2.2
Others: not too laggy, flash compatible

Thanks
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1st option: defy is a good phone, esp if you always drop your phone often. Other choices are HTC Desire AP, Samsung Vibrant or Captivate, HTC Desire Z

2nd Option: Galaxy Ace or X10 AP maybe?

QUOTE(krk24 @ Mar 27 2011, 12:11 AM)
1. Brand. (HTC)
2. Budget. (1.5k-2k)
3. Specs. (1GHZ / high as well RAM / latest android / larger the better)
4. What you need in the phone (Sense UI ? Touch Witz ? Battery life? Form factor? = ALL i need)

P.S. in my mind kinda liked HTC desire HD

Main reason of changing phone is my current hp kept turning off by itself.
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Either DHD or wait for the Incredible S. Incredible S has a brighter screen, front camera and better battery, with a locked bootloader. DHD has bigger screen, no front camera and smaller battery. But you can calibrate to last 40 hours on moderate usage. The users here have the magic ingredient


QUOTE(Music Mania @ Mar 27 2011, 01:07 AM)
Guys, getting really really confused right now between the Samsung Galaxy Ace and the Sony Ericsson Xperia x10.

Just found out that the x10 is getting the Gingerbread update after all, and that is a VERY big news. Further more, the price difference of the SGA and an AP set of the x10 is only around 100 ringgit.

So guys, opinions? :/

Though I'm very curious with the locked bootloader of the x10..
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Get the X10 if you don't wanna modify your phone a lot. Or without, Galaxy Ace is the way to go...

Phew...3 questions answered tongue.gif

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Hi there,

Looking for budget smartphone below RM1k. (Samsung Galaxy Ace/LG Optimus One/?)

- customizable like OC or root with low risk.
- durable or less hardware problem from users
- most possibility to have android upgrade

Thanks and regards
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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Mar 27 2011, 01:39 AM)
1st option: defy is a good phone, esp if you always drop your phone often. Other choices are HTC Desire AP, Samsung Vibrant or Captivate, HTC Desire Z

2nd Option: Galaxy Ace or X10 AP maybe?
Either DHD or wait for the Incredible S. Incredible S has a brighter screen, front camera and better battery, with a locked bootloader. DHD has bigger screen, no front camera and smaller battery. But you can calibrate to last 40 hours on moderate usage. The users here have the magic ingredient
Get the X10 if you don't wanna modify your phone a lot. Or without, Galaxy Ace is the way to go...

Phew...3 questions answered  tongue.gif
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but too bad that defy still running 2.1 sad.gif
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QUOTE(#bAskkEtt# @ Mar 26 2011, 11:02 PM)
hi, need some help/advice.
looking for 2 android phones:

1st
Brand: (having DEFY on mind now)
Price: ~1.5k
Any other better recommendation other then DEFY around this budget?

2nd
Brand: Any
Price: 1k - 1.3k
Specs: preferably larger screen size, android 2.1/2.2
Others: not too laggy, flash compatible

Thanks
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1st: Get the Incredible S at RM1800. Higher ram and better build quality.
2nd: Acer Liquid Metal. Flash compatible, 3.6" screen size and android 2.2 at RM 1100

QUOTE(krk24 @ Mar 27 2011, 12:11 AM)
1. Brand. (HTC)
2. Budget. (1.5k-2k)
3. Specs. (1GHZ / high as well RAM / latest android / larger the better)
4. What you need in the phone (Sense UI ? Touch Witz ? Battery life? Form factor? = ALL i need)

P.S. in my mind kinda liked HTC desire HD

Main reason of changing phone is my current hp kept turning off by itself.
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Incredible S. 1.8k, 2nd highest available ram period, latest android coming q2. 4.3" screen. Same as DHD but better battery life.

QUOTE(Music Mania @ Mar 27 2011, 01:07 AM)
Guys, getting really really confused right now between the Samsung Galaxy Ace and the Sony Ericsson Xperia x10.

Just found out that the x10 is getting the Gingerbread update after all, and that is a VERY big news. Further more, the price difference of the SGA and an AP set of the x10 is only around 100 ringgit.

So guys, opinions? :/

Though I'm very curious with the locked bootloader of the x10..
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x10 DOES NOT HAVE A LOCKED BOOTLOADER. THERE ARE CUSTOM ROMS FOR IT. If you don't mind the idea of not getting any future updates, get the Acer Liquid Metal. Has superior build quality compared to the x10, more ram, smaller more vibrant screen, but a suckier camera.

QUOTE(zhinigami @ Mar 27 2011, 01:42 AM)
Hi there,

Looking for budget smartphone below RM1k. (Samsung Galaxy Ace/LG Optimus One/?)

- customizable like OC or root with low risk.
- durable or less hardware problem from users
- most possibility to have android upgrade

Thanks and regards
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LG Optimus One has been confirmed to get gingerbread directly from LG.
Ace would most probably get Gingerbread then nothing else. But both of them do not support flash but Ace has a better processor(Overclocked MSM7227)

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Guys, need your help to give some inputs between these 2 phones (Samsung Nexus S and HTC Incredible S)
Things I am looking :
1) battery life ( calls,SMS,web browsing with wifi)
2) features with stock rom
3) gps features
4) screen ( color, clarity, size doesn't matter)
5) Speed
6) built quality

Which one better for me? Or you can recommend one any phone. Budget unlimited.

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post Mar 27 2011, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Reix @ Mar 27 2011, 11:32 AM)
Guys, need your help to give some inputs between these 2 phones (Samsung Nexus S and HTC Incredible S)
Things I am looking :
1) battery life ( calls,SMS,web browsing with wifi)
2) features with stock rom
3) gps features
4) screen ( color, clarity, size doesn't matter)
5) Speed
6) built quality

Which one better for me? Or you can recommend one any phone. Budget unlimited.
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Samsung Galaxy II: Average battery life, best screen, dual core but IMO the build quality is also average
HTC Desire S: Supposedly good battery life, Single core Q8255, Average 3.6" S-LCD screen, GPS is good and build quality is above average
Incredible S: Below average battery life, Single core Q8255, 4.3" S-LCD, speed should be slower than the Desire S or the SGS2 from rendering a bigger screen. Build quality above average
Nexus S: Vanilla, should have best battery life compared to all these phones, single core Hummingbird, SGS GPU, S-AMOLED screen, Build quality average.

IMO wait for Desire S or get the SGS2

SGS 2 for Dual core and better camera
Desire S for single core and better build quality.
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i think defy 2.1 is upgradable to 2.2 smile.gif

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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Mar 26 2011, 08:30 AM)
Desire HD: Same proc as Incredible S, Worse battery life and build quality, camera not as good as Incredible S.
Incredible S: Same proc as Desire HD, S-LCD screen, Better battery life and build quality, camera is the best of the 3, has front camera, but has a locked bootloader(or so i heard)
SGS: Best GPU to date, S-AMOLED screen, has front camera, plenty of roms, but has gps and lag issues. Can be fixed though.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Mar 27 2011, 09:00 AM)
1st: Get the Incredible S at RM1800. Higher ram and better build quality.
2nd: Acer Liquid Metal. Flash compatible, 3.6" screen size and android 2.2 at RM 1100
Incredible S. 1.8k, 2nd highest available ram period, latest android coming q2. 4.3" screen. Same as DHD but better battery life.
x10 DOES NOT HAVE A LOCKED BOOTLOADER. THERE ARE CUSTOM ROMS FOR IT. If you don't mind the idea of not getting any future updates, get the Acer Liquid Metal. Has superior build quality compared to the x10, more ram, smaller more vibrant screen, but a suckier camera.
LG Optimus One has been confirmed to get gingerbread directly from LG.
Ace would most probably get Gingerbread then nothing else. But both of them do not support flash but Ace has a better processor(Overclocked MSM7227)
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Mar 27 2011, 12:02 PM)
Samsung Galaxy II: Average battery life, best screen, dual core but IMO the build quality is also average
HTC Desire S: Supposedly good battery life, Single core Q8255, Average 3.6" S-LCD screen, GPS is good and build quality is above average
Incredible S: Below average battery life, Single core Q8255, 4.3" S-LCD, speed should be slower than the Desire S or the SGS2 from rendering a bigger screen. Build quality above average
Nexus S: Vanilla, should have best battery life compared to all these phones, single core Hummingbird, SGS GPU, S-AMOLED screen, Build quality average.

IMO wait for Desire S or get the SGS2

SGS 2 for Dual core and better camera
Desire S for single core and better build quality.
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I want to clarify few mistakes you made, since first post.

Incredible S DOES NOT have a better camera than Desire HD. Both are the same with 8 MP camera, dual LED flash. Except the fact that, Incredible S have Front-camera (1.3MP) which DHD have nothing.

Incredible S is using S-LCD (Desire HD is LCD only). But Incredible S DOES NOT have 4.3". Its only 4.0", whereby DHD is 4.3".

As for the build quality, I will not agree with you, but I won't argue with it, as different people have different opinion. Some may think IS's build is better, some for DHD. Both have pros and cons.. Surely some will prefer aluminum casing over plastic casing, and vice versa.

Just my corrections, no hard feelings smile.gif

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hi guys. me planning to buy SE xperia x8. is it a good choice, or any better choice for that price range guys (around rm800)?

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QUOTE(monara @ Mar 27 2011, 12:51 PM)
hi guys. me planning to buy SE xperia x8. is it a good choice, or any better choice for that price range guys (around rm800)?
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LG optimus one or the samsung galaxy Ace.. much better than the X8

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but too bad that defy still running 2.1


They promised 2.2 by Q2 2011. Lets see what motorola does ok?


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x10 DOES NOT HAVE A LOCKED BOOTLOADER. THERE ARE CUSTOM ROMS FOR IT. If you don't mind the idea of not getting any future updates, get the Acer Liquid Metal. Has superior build quality compared to the x10, more ram, smaller more vibrant screen, but a suckier camera.
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It does have a locked bootloader. Works are being done to crack it. ROMS can be flashed, but I think the kernel can't be flashed.
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Mar 27 2011, 12:22 PM)
I want to clarify few mistakes you made, since first post.

Incredible S DOES NOT have a better camera than Desire HD. Both are the same with 8 MP camera, dual LED flash. Except the fact that, Incredible S have Front-camera (1.3MP) which DHD have nothing.

Incredible S is using S-LCD (Desire HD is LCD only). But Incredible S DOES NOT have 4.3". Its only 4.0", whereby DHD is 4.3".

As for the build quality, I will not agree with you, but I won't argue with it, as different people have different opinion. Some may think IS's build is better, some for DHD. Both have pros and cons.. Surely some will prefer aluminum casing over plastic casing, and vice versa.

Just my corrections, no hard feelings smile.gif
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The camera is better. Engadget reviewed the IS and said that it was. So did a few other reviews. I went to GSMArena and compared the photos. The Desire HD had a granier picture and was more vibrant and fake while the IS had a more smooth, cool picture and realistic colours.


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It does have a locked bootloader. Works are being done to crack it. ROMS can be flashed, but I think the kernel can't be flashed.
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It does? hmm.gif Didn't really research the x10. Sorry for any mistakes.

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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Mar 27 2011, 05:25 PM)
The camera is better. Engadget reviewed the IS and said that it was. So did a few other reviews. I went to GSMArena and compared the photos. The Desire HD had a granier picture and was more vibrant and fake while the IS had a more smooth, cool picture and realistic colours.
Its cuz 1 screen is LCD and another is S-LCD.. S-LCD screen is so much nicer than an LCD, and therefore the picture when viewed through it is much nicer. But 8MP will be the same...

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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Mar 27 2011, 08:39 PM)
Its cuz 1 screen is LCD and another is S-LCD.. S-LCD screen is so much nicer than an LCD, and therefore the picture when viewed through it is much nicer. But 8MP will be the same...
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what is the diff between samsungs galaxy s and galaxy sl?
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what is the diff between samsungs galaxy s and galaxy sl?
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S got video call,SL no video call
and S using super amoled screen,SL use S-LCD if not wrong
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Mar 27 2011, 11:29 PM)
S got video call,SL no video call
and S using super amoled screen,SL use S-LCD if not wrong
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diff between sgs n sg sl is
1. sc lcd compare to super amoled
2. 4gb storage
3. PowerVR SGX530 GPU, TI OMAP 3630 chipset instead of PowerVR SGX540 GPU, Hummingbird chipset (mean lower ram)

can check it out at gsmarena


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QUOTE(Music Mania @ Mar 27 2011, 01:07 AM)
Guys, getting really really confused right now between the Samsung Galaxy Ace and the Sony Ericsson Xperia x10.

Just found out that the x10 is getting the Gingerbread update after all, and that is a VERY big news. Further more, the price difference of the SGA and an AP set of the x10 is only around 100 ringgit.

So guys, opinions? :/

Though I'm very curious with the locked bootloader of the x10..
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definitely go for x10 if d SE really bring 2.3 to X1O
som more d SGA internal memory is soooo small till need 2 do sooo many thing in order to move apps to sd card (very mafan)

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wat is the difference between htc incredible s and htc desire hd? which one is better?
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QUOTE(moko82 @ Mar 28 2011, 01:05 PM)
wat is the difference between htc incredible s and htc desire hd? which one is better?
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of course incredible S, you can compare it with the spec.
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anyone know the price for IS?
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wat is the difference between htc incredible s and htc desire hd? which one is better?
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One has a front facing camera thats all. And get the IS if you want out of the box goodness for now. If you want customisation, go for DHD. Bootloader for IS is locked

QUOTE(weeling2828 @ Mar 28 2011, 02:46 PM)
anyone know the price for IS?
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Man.. the price 2k for original 1.7k for AP
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QUOTE(moko82 @ Mar 28 2011, 01:05 PM)
wat is the difference between htc incredible s and htc desire hd? which one is better?
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DHD has a slightly larger screen. Thats the only difference besides the battery capacity.
IS has a better but slightly smaller screen, better camera, has front camera, and a larger battery capacity. Only downside is the battery cover looks weird with all the curves.
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Not forgetting the hope for DHD.. if you dare to flash custom rom and root etc.. you can run your phone for easily 40 hours on moderate usage..
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glad that i noticed this thread...
would like to ask some opinion coz i want to sell my bb and planning to switch to android....

1. Brand. (either htc, or samsung or any other suggestion)
2. Budget. (1k-1.2k) limited RM
3. Specs. (don't want much, as long as it worth the price)

i have htc wildfire and desire in my mind rite now but if i'm not mistaken, can't get the desire with that range of price....
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QUOTE(pokcek1 @ Mar 29 2011, 12:43 AM)
glad that i noticed this thread...
would like to ask some opinion coz i want to sell my bb and planning to switch to android....

1. Brand. (either htc, or samsung or any other suggestion)
2. Budget. (1k-1.2k) limited RM
3. Specs. (don't want much, as long as it worth the price)

i have htc wildfire and desire in my mind rite now but if i'm not mistaken, can't get the desire with that range of price....
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Top up around 300 and you can... an AP set desire... if you don't mind, a Samsung Galaxy Ace will suffice..
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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Mar 29 2011, 12:57 AM)
Top up around 300 and you can... an AP set desire... if you don't mind, a Samsung Galaxy Ace will suffice..
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looks like have to save my money for couple of month to get my hand on that desire or else just go for the wildfire... galaxy ace...? need to do some search on other brand as i can't keep my eyes of htc's phone...
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QUOTE(pokcek1 @ Mar 29 2011, 12:43 AM)
glad that i noticed this thread...
would like to ask some opinion coz i want to sell my bb and planning to switch to android....

1. Brand. (either htc, or samsung or any other suggestion)
2. Budget. (1k-1.2k) limited RM
3. Specs. (don't want much, as long as it worth the price)

i have htc wildfire and desire in my mind rite now but if i'm not mistaken, can't get the desire with that range of price....
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someone selling 1.4k for desire AP set @ GS smile.gif
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QUOTE(pokcek1 @ Mar 29 2011, 01:30 AM)
looks like have to save my money for couple of month to get my hand on that desire or else just go for the wildfire... galaxy ace...? need to do some search on other brand as i can't keep my eyes of htc's phone...
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Its not worth it now to keep your eyes on the HTC phone esp at that budget.. samsung and LG has better low-mid range phones
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i would say juz go with Galaxy Ace... unless u re desperate for Flash...
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QUOTE(pokcek1 @ Mar 29 2011, 12:43 AM)
glad that i noticed this thread...
would like to ask some opinion coz i want to sell my bb and planning to switch to android....

1. Brand. (either htc, or samsung or any other suggestion)
2. Budget. (1k-1.2k) limited RM
3. Specs. (don't want much, as long as it worth the price)

i have htc wildfire and desire in my mind rite now but if i'm not mistaken, can't get the desire with that range of price....
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Acer Liquid Metal. Definitely worth its price. Aluminium battery casing with Vanilla Froyo and Desire Z proc. Only downside is the sub par camera. RM1160 for ori set.
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QUOTE(pokcek1 @ Mar 29 2011, 12:43 AM)
glad that i noticed this thread...
would like to ask some opinion coz i want to sell my bb and planning to switch to android....

1. Brand. (either htc, or samsung or any other suggestion)
2. Budget. (1k-1.2k) limited RM
3. Specs. (don't want much, as long as it worth the price)

i have htc wildfire and desire in my mind rite now but if i'm not mistaken, can't get the desire with that range of price....
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go for acer liquid metal ~
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Mar 29 2011, 06:45 PM)
go for acer liquid metal ~
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juz wondering... how does MSM7227 Turbo (Galaxy Ace) stack against MSM7230 (Liquid Metal)? both are 800MHz to start with, besides Flash support...
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QUOTE(astria @ Mar 29 2011, 08:21 PM)
juz wondering... how does MSM7227 Turbo (Galaxy Ace) stack against MSM7230 (Liquid Metal)? both are 800MHz to start with, besides Flash support...
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To begin with, the biggest difference i see in the the 7227-1 and the 7230 is the GPU. 205 vs 200. If i'm not mistaken the 205 has twice the processing power of the 200. And also, the fact that the 7227-1 is factory overclocked makes the stock 800mhz better. At least there are less risks. And overclocked units make the processor a tad bit warmer.
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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Mar 29 2011, 01:15 PM)
Its not worth it now to keep your eyes on the HTC phone esp at that budget.. samsung and LG has better low-mid range phones
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QUOTE(astria @ Mar 29 2011, 01:48 PM)
i would say juz go with Galaxy Ace... unless u re desperate for Flash...
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Mar 29 2011, 03:06 PM)
Acer Liquid Metal. Definitely worth its price. Aluminium battery casing with Vanilla Froyo and Desire Z proc. Only downside is the sub par camera. RM1160 for ori set.
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wow, seems have to widely open my eyes and look at other brands also.. thank you for all of your suggestion, really appreciate it...
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may i know what's the price for X10 currently?

also, the pro and con for the phone...

thaks!
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may i know what's the price for X10 currently?

also, the pro and con for the phone...

thaks!
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I don't have an X10, but I'll try to list some of the pros and cons.
The AP set costs around 1k to 1.1k, while the original set is about 1.3k (but I could be wrong).

Pros:
480 x 854 pixels screen (a bargain for a phone at this price range)
4 inches screen
1 GHz Scorpion processor
Awesome camera
HD video recording
Pretty okay internal memory size of 1 GB storage (but I heard there's only about 400mb free for the user)
Promised upgrade to Android 2.3 Gingerbread (!!!)

Cons:
65k colours screen (not too sure if the colour limitation is noticeable to the average person)
Doesn't have the best multi touch on the market ("dual touch" to be specific, suffers from the axis inversion issue)
Locked bootloader (limitation on development by developers)

Don't take my word for it though, got all these information from all over the net. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Music Mania @ Mar 30 2011, 04:05 AM)
I don't have an X10, but I'll try to list some of the pros and cons.
The AP set costs around 1k to 1.1k, while the original set is about 1.3k (but I could be wrong).

Pros:
480 x 854 pixels screen (a bargain for a phone at this price range)
4 inches screen
1 GHz Scorpion processor
Awesome camera
HD video recording
Pretty okay internal memory size of 1 GB storage (but I heard there's only about 400mb free for the user)
Promised upgrade to Android 2.3 Gingerbread (!!!)
cheapest Snapdragon phone in the market

Cons:
65k colours screen (not too sure if the colour limitation is noticeable to the average person)
Doesn't have the best multi touch on the market ("dual touch" to be specific, suffers from the axis inversion issue)
Locked bootloader (limitation on development by developers)

Don't take my word for it though, got all these information from all over the net. smile.gif
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juz an add on... tongue.gif

the Gbread news juz made it become a good deal again... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(astria @ Mar 30 2011, 10:40 AM)
juz an add on... tongue.gif

the Gbread news juz made it become a good deal again... laugh.gif
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LOL, a simple software update made it kewl again. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(astria @ Mar 30 2011, 10:40 AM)
juz an add on... tongue.gif

the Gbread news juz made it become a good deal again... laugh.gif
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Yeah, and to restore disgruntled customers' faith in the new Arc and Play phones. It's a marketing strategy.
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torn between milestone 2 and desire Z..... which one to get? any other qwerty android comming soon?
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QUOTE(vpam5221 @ Mar 30 2011, 06:00 PM)
torn between milestone 2 and desire Z..... which one to get?  any other qwerty android comming soon?
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depends on if u want to mod ur phone... Moto is generally not mod friendly, and Desire Z will receive Gingerbread upgrade from HTC...

but Milestone 2 is lighter, has Gorilla glass, 1GHz CPU and 8GB ROM...
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QUOTE(Music Mania @ Mar 30 2011, 04:05 AM)
I don't have an X10, but I'll try to list some of the pros and cons.
The AP set costs around 1k to 1.1k, while the original set is about 1.3k (but I could be wrong).

Pros:
480 x 854 pixels screen (a bargain for a phone at this price range)
4 inches screen
1 GHz Scorpion processor
Awesome camera
HD video recording
Pretty okay internal memory size of 1 GB storage (but I heard there's only about 400mb free for the user)
Promised upgrade to Android 2.3 Gingerbread (!!!)

Cons:
Doesn't have the best multi touch on the market ("dual touch" to be specific, suffers from the axis inversion issue)
Locked bootloader (limitation on development by developers)
Sub par build quality

Don't take my word for it though, got all these information from all over the net. smile.gif
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guys, between O1 and Xperia X8 what should i get?

want to use celcom token. smile.gif
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QUOTE(tedisgodlike @ Mar 30 2011, 07:37 PM)
guys, between O1 and Xperia X8 what should i get?

want to use celcom token. smile.gif
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LG O1 FTW, X8 is stuck @ Android 2.1
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guys, between O1 and Xperia X8 what should i get?

want to use celcom token. smile.gif
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of coz go for O1,x8 will stuck at 2.1 unless sony make another news ~
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hi guys was thinking of getting galaxy ace,but hard to find and price infalted until 1k+, any other recomendation for sub 1k+,other than liquid metal, was thinking getting galaxy sl at seng heng,good choice or not?
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really glad i found this thread. was kept my eyes on htc for quite sometimes till i noticed that there r lot more of android phones to choose from.

as for a quickie question, which 1 is better than these 2, galaxy ace vs acer liquid metal in overall (price, performance, battery life, bootloader etc), and what makes it better than the other 1?

thanks alot!!
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1. Brand: Any
2. Budget: rm1.2k-1.8k
3. Specs: None really
4. What you need in the phone: Physical QWERTY, good camera, can customise, change ringtones, drag and drop (I know this is common but apparently some phones still require a Suite to be installed?).

I looked at the XPeria X10 mini pro, the Desire Z (the phone's out of my budget), E7 and N8. So far I love the N8 for the cam but no much else. Help!
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QUOTE(Naoko Kensaku @ Mar 30 2011, 11:25 PM)
1. Brand: Any
2. Budget: rm1.2k-1.8k
3. Specs: None really
4. What you need in the phone: Physical QWERTY, good camera, can customise, change ringtones, drag and drop (I know this is common but apparently some phones still require a Suite to be installed?).

I looked at the XPeria X10 mini pro, the Desire Z (the phone's out of my budget), E7 and N8. So far I love the N8 for the cam but no much else. Help!
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Desire Z or Motorola Milestone 2.
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like to know below which 1 sound better?
DHD
IS
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SE X10


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is it worth to buy rm1900 nexus s?tq
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QUOTE(khawyc @ Mar 30 2011, 11:55 PM)
like to know below which 1 sound better?
DHD
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SGS for me. Wolfson WM8994 chip FTW. (Needs a custom kernel to enable it la)

QUOTE(craw @ Mar 31 2011, 12:17 AM)
is it worth to buy rm1900 nexus s?tq
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Not bad of a price i say. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(41LY45 @ Mar 31 2011, 01:12 AM)
SGS for me. Wolfson WM8994 chip FTW. (Needs a custom kernel to enable it la)
Not bad of a price i say.  biggrin.gif
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the sound is really somethin else
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1. Brand. (ANY)
2. Budget. (800-1.2K)
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4. What you need in the phone (MULTI-TOUCH, GPS)
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QUOTE(richrich @ Mar 31 2011, 10:37 AM)
1. Brand. (ANY)
2. Budget. (800-1.2K)
3. Specs. (FAST)
4. What you need in the phone (MULTI-TOUCH, GPS)
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Samsung Galaxy Ace, SE Xperia X10 (need to wait for the upgrade though)...


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QUOTE(xliquidx @ Mar 30 2011, 11:10 PM)
really glad i found this thread. was kept my eyes on htc for quite sometimes till i noticed that there r lot more of android phones to choose from.

as for a quickie question, which 1 is better than these 2, galaxy ace vs acer liquid metal in overall (price, performance, battery life, bootloader etc), and what makes it better than the other 1?

thanks alot!!
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Galaxy Ace
Pro:
Large monitor (for the class)
possible Gingerbread update from Samsung
Con:
No Flash

Liquid Metal
Pro:
Snapdragon CPU (=Flash)
pretty nice build
higher resolution (though monitor size is around the same)
Con:
Practically zero support in XDA forum (this can be a real deal breaker, even though hardware is good)

another choice would be SE Xperia X10, and wait for Gingerbread update, or Motorola Defy...

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i plan wan to buy android fon..what hp have gud spec & price?
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i plan wan to buy android fon..what hp have gud spec & price?
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What is your expected price?? budget?? give us this...if not, you'll get :

1. Motorola Atrix
2. SGS II (coming)
3. LG Optimus 2X

etc,etc.....
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What is your expected price?? budget?? give us this...if not, you'll get :

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2. SGS II (coming)
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2) hav front cam & gud cam quality
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Nexus S (has front cam but normal back cam), Incredible S (same like Nexus S), Xperia X10 (good back cam but no front cam), if u can't wait...

else wait for SE Xperia Arc...

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QUOTE(astria @ Mar 31 2011, 12:51 PM)
Nexus S (has front cam but normal back cam), Incredible S (same like Nexus S), Xperia X10 (good back cam but no front cam), if u can't wait...

else wait for SE Xperia Arc...
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thanks astria.. how bout the price? i hav search price for android hp wif front cam & gud cam quality range arnd rm1700 above.. is there hav below than that?
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Nexus S rm1900-rm2k

Incredible S rm1650-rm1700

X10 approx. rm1k+rm100

juz look around in garage sales...
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im currently looking for a phone as a gift to my dad..im intereste in giving him an android coz im using one biggrin.gifD


1. any brand is good
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4. since its for my dad,i think its better to have keypad..

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SE Xperia X10 Mini Pro (but will probably be too small), HTC Desire Z, Motorola Milestone 2

if can wait, Samsung Galaxy Pro and SE Xperia Pro...

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ohh,,thanks for d recommendations ^^
im interested in motorola milestone 2,,where can i bought it?
n how much is it?
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Samsung Galaxy Ace, SE Xperia X10 (need to wait for the upgrade though)...


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Galaxy Ace
Pro:
Large monitor (for the class)
possible Gingerbread update from Samsung
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No Flash

Liquid Metal
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pretty nice build
higher resolution (though monitor size is around the same)
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Practically zero support in XDA forum (this can be a real deal breaker, even though hardware is good)

another choice would be SE Xperia X10, and wait for Gingerbread update, or Motorola Defy...
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hey man, thanks for the pros & cons suggestion. Xperia X10 seems to be a good deal too since SE has confirmed the upgrade of gingerbread later this year [news]. errmm arghh that makes me even harder to choose from 1 to another hahaha. in term of design, i kinda like Acer Metal and Xperia more compare to Galaxy Ace or Motorola Defy. trying not to be typical, acer might be the choice, but as u mentioned zero support in XDA is really a let down factor. that might left me with Xperia.

do u think which 1 is wiser, i: get it (Xperia X10) now, and upgrade it to gingerbread once its released, or ii: wait for the gingerbread pre-installed version?

thanks to u sifoo
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QUOTE(xliquidx @ Apr 1 2011, 01:14 AM)
hey man, thanks for the pros & cons suggestion. Xperia X10 seems to be a good deal too since SE has confirmed the upgrade of gingerbread later this year [news]. errmm arghh that makes me even harder to choose from 1 to another hahaha. in term of design, i kinda like Acer Metal and Xperia more compare to Galaxy Ace or Motorola Defy. trying not to be typical, acer might be the choice, but as u mentioned zero support in XDA is really a let down factor. that might left me with Xperia.

do u think which 1 is wiser, i: get it (Xperia X10) now, and upgrade it to gingerbread once its released, or ii: wait for the gingerbread pre-installed version?

thanks to u sifoo
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last i head Xperia Arc will be available in MY in May...

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any comment about samsung captivate?
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Guys have some Q&A myself on Androids phones.

I'm actually iPhone users and fan as well.. As much as I like the iPhone, I still hate it because of it restriction of using it as a portable hard drive to store videos and music, which always requires me to use iTunes everytime I need to do something with iPhone. >.<

I'm Google fans as well and I really like their Android operating system. But I don't like what they are doing on HTC Aria and SE Xperia which my friends are using. It wasn't as smooth as iPhone when scrolling thru the menu and the internet browser isn't as smooth as the safari does on iPhone, where Android is like slightly choppy effect. Is it this "noticeable lagness" only appears on this 2 phones and not others? Or is there any to fix these?

And also on my previous Symbian Nokia, I can actually turn it into USB drive whenever I plug it into any laptop / desktop. Is this doable in Android?

Cheers :-)

Oh and also, whenever I'm browsing things to download for my friends on the Android market here's some problem as well.

Firefox: Totally lag the whole phone. Only until you uninstall it the phone functions back to normal.

I can't find Skype to install.

Very limited useful software compared to the Apps in iPhone.

Too many bad reviews of downloadable Apps but unusable or lagness problem to the phone when you use it.

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abt the lagness... it's all du to the custom UI that the makers put in (HTC Sense, Motoblur, Samsung TouchWiz, SE Rachel, etc)... easy way out is to root the phone and flash a custom ROM which improves performance (most of them do), and better yet, flash to vanilla Android (ie no custom UI) for pure Android experience...

computers will recognize the SD card in the phone as a removable storage...

Firefox's problem is common... switch to another browser, like Dolphin HD, though imho the stock browser is already good enuf...

there is Skype for Android... https://market.android.com/details?id=com.s...e=search_result probably juz not available in MY...

what kind of apps are u looking for in Android? the web Android Market is a good place to start looking: https://market.android.com/
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QUOTE(shoduken @ Apr 1 2011, 10:06 AM)
Guys have some Q&A myself on Androids phones.

I'm actually iPhone users and fan as well.. As much as I like the iPhone, I still hate it because of it restriction of using it as a portable hard drive to store videos and music, which always requires me to use iTunes everytime I need to do something with iPhone. >.<

I'm Google fans as well and I really like their Android operating system. But I don't like what they are doing on HTC Aria and SE Xperia which my friends are using. It wasn't as smooth as iPhone when scrolling thru the menu and the internet browser isn't as smooth as the safari does on iPhone, where Android is like slightly choppy effect. Is it this "noticeable lagness" only appears on this 2 phones and not others? Or is there any to fix these?

And also on my previous Symbian Nokia, I can actually turn it into USB drive whenever I plug it into any laptop / desktop. Is this doable in Android?

Cheers :-)

Oh and also, whenever I'm browsing things to download for my friends on the Android market here's some problem as well.

Firefox: Totally lag the whole phone. Only until you uninstall it the phone functions back to normal.

I can't find Skype to install.

Very limited useful software compared to the Apps in iPhone.

Too many bad reviews of downloadable Apps but unusable or lagness problem to the phone when you use it.
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There are many apps for it. There's also an app called Samba Filesharing which allows you to transfer files over the wi-fi regardless of where you are as long as you are connected to the wifi. If you need a phone as smooth as an iPhone, i suggest you wait for upcoming HTC or any stock gingerbread devices. If you do not like having flash(uses loads of data) you can delete the Flash 10.1 and install Skyfire for video viewing only. Its actually up to you. No phones are the same. Each one is unique to the user and to others. Skype can be downloaded directly from skype's website. And we have free "ARR" apps that works.
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Actually Im planning to buy a HTC DHD, but i check online the HTC evo 3D is coming soon, it this phone will come in MY? what I think is, after i bought a Nice phone DHD, then the evo3D come in. then all ppl are looking into that. Then I will think need to change phone again
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One more question, I was trying to download Chrome browser if it's available on Android (since Android is by Google) but I can't find it. I guess the built in browser is actually Chrome itself right? Since the click box that appear on link looks like how it is on Chrome biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shoduken @ Apr 1 2011, 12:36 PM)
One more question, I was trying to download Chrome browser if it's available on Android (since Android is by Google) but I can't find it. I guess the built in browser is actually Chrome itself right? Since the click box that appear on link looks like how it is on Chrome biggrin.gif
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Lol, some what. Prefer Opera Mobile 11 though. Dayum smooth.
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QUOTE(jeff530 @ Apr 1 2011, 12:21 PM)
Actually Im planning to buy a HTC DHD, but i check online the HTC evo 3D is coming soon, it this phone will come in MY? what I think is, after i bought a Nice phone DHD, then the evo3D come in. then all ppl are looking into that. Then I will think need to change phone again
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EVO3D is not coming to Msia AFAIK.
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hey need some advice here, sgs / x10 / htc IS is better?
i need speed, nice camera , not bad speaker n good battery life tongue.gif

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QUOTE(jeff530 @ Apr 1 2011, 12:21 PM)
Actually Im planning to buy a HTC DHD, but i check online the HTC evo 3D is coming soon, it this phone will come in MY? what I think is, after i bought a Nice phone DHD, then the evo3D come in. then all ppl are looking into that. Then I will think need to change phone again
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suggest u get htc incredibe s better

QUOTE(theWeird_Weird @ Apr 1 2011, 01:57 PM)
hey need some advice here, sgs / x10 / htc IS is better?
i need speed, nice camera , not bad speaker n good battery life  tongue.gif
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go for x10/HTC IS
coz both of them processor got higher speed than sgs
furthermore both of them got 8MP
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hey need some advice here, sgs / x10 / htc IS is better?
i need speed, nice camera , not bad speaker n good battery life  tongue.gif
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IMO go for IS if you dont mind having mediocre battery life. SRS Digital surround is superb. DHD's speaker quality is already good much less doubting its successor's capabilities. One of the best HTC cameras to date.
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EVO3D is not coming to Msia AFAIK.
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Hi all!

Well I need your recommendation here.

1. Brand - prefer HTC but Moto seems to be okay
2. Budget - bout 2k+ seems okay
3. Specs - more power = better
4. What you need in the phone - battery should last me like 18 hours of heavy usage (yes I use my phone alot), form factor is also an additional, screen has good resolution

I am very interested with HTC androids but I noticed Moto seems to be fine too. However, seldom see people using Moto so wonder if they are that good.

Planning to buy whole phone (no package from telco since I am using Celcom) around Q3 or Q4. Now need do scouting first!

So what do you suggest guys?

*p/s Don't know it is me or what but I feel HTC phones really coming out very slow! Mostly come out but not usable in Malaysia pula! rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(nicregi @ Apr 1 2011, 03:48 PM)
Hi all!

Well I need your recommendation here.

1. Brand - prefer HTC but Moto seems to be okay
2. Budget - bout 2k+ seems okay
3. Specs - more power = better
4. What you need in the phone - battery should last me like 18 hours of heavy usage (yes I use my phone alot), form factor is also an additional, screen has good resolution

I am very interested with HTC androids but I noticed Moto seems to be fine too. However, seldom see people using Moto so wonder if they are that good.

Planning to buy whole phone (no package from telco since I am using Celcom) around Q3 or Q4. Now need do scouting first!

So what do you suggest guys?

*p/s Don't know it is me or what but I feel HTC phones really coming out very slow! Mostly come out but not usable in Malaysia pula!  rclxub.gif
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Q3 to Q4? by then I am sure every rumored HTC phones is already out and available laugh.gif

you might want to pay attention to HTC Evo 3D and HTC Pyramid,
both have similar spec and are going to be the upcoming flagship devices from HTC, one of them ought to make it to Msia market
Otherwise I would resort to Samsung instead of Moto, Samsung Galaxy S II, which is another beast of a phone
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 1 2011, 02:19 PM)
suggest u get htc incredibe s better
go for x10/HTC IS
coz both of them processor got higher speed than sgs
furthermore both of them got 8MP
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their processor speed not same ?

QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 1 2011, 03:00 PM)
IMO go for IS if you dont mind having mediocre battery life. SRS Digital surround is superb. DHD's speaker quality is already good much less doubting its successor's capabilities. One of the best HTC cameras to date.
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lol i see.
is sgs really not good ah? cry.gif
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SGS uses Samsung Hummingbird 1GHz CPU, while X10 use Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 1GHz CPU, and IS uses Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 1GHz CPU...

in normal usage u re not going to notice much difference... however SGS' advantage would be the SAMOLED monitor, and the PowerVR GPU, which is generally more superior than Qualcomm's Adreano GPU in X10 and IS... however SGS do not ve LED flash...

X10's main (and probably only) advantage is the camera, which is one of the best u can get for an Android phone... however it's currently stuck in Android 2.1 (SE promises an upgrade to 2.3 in late Q2/early Q3), 65K colour monitor (Software limit), TFT monitor, and medicore multitouch performance...

IS is HTC's latest flagship device which has pretty good camera and comes with SLCD (not as expensive, and also not as good, as SAMOLED, but generally better than TFT)... biggest drawback is probably HTCSense.com, which many users report that it's broken...

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1. Brand - Any
2. Budget - Unlimited
3. Specs - FAST. Especially during internet browsing.
4. What you need in the phone - Better battery life than iphone 4 at least, good camera and video quality, best phone for browsing experience (as good as iphone 4 if possible)

On top of my list are:

Samsung Galaxy S 2
HTC Incredible S
Motorola Atrix
LG Optimus 2X

How do these phones compare to each other AND iphone 4?
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QUOTE(astria @ Apr 1 2011, 04:58 PM)
SGS uses Samsung Hummingbird 1GHz CPU, while X10 use Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 1GHz CPU, and IS uses Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 1GHz CPU...

in normal usage u re not going to notice much difference... however SGS' advantage would be the SAMOLED monitor, and the PowerVR GPU, which is generally more superior than Qualcomm's Adreano GPU in X10 and IS... however SGS do not ve LED flash...

X10's main (and probably only) advantage is the camera, which is one of the best u can get for an Android phone... however it's currently stuck in Android 2.1 (SE promises an upgrade to 2.3 in late Q2/early Q3), 65K colour monitor (Software limit), TFT monitor, and medicore multitouch performance...

IS is HTC's latest flagship device which has pretty good camera and comes with SLCD (not as expensive, and also not as good, as SAMOLED, but generally better than TFT)... biggest drawback is probably HTCSense.com, which many users report that it's broken...
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QUOTE(elgato49 @ Apr 1 2011, 05:21 PM)
1. Brand - Any
2. Budget - Unlimited
3. Specs - FAST. Especially during internet browsing.
4. What you need in the phone - Better battery life than iphone 4 at least, good camera and video quality, best phone for browsing experience (as good as iphone 4 if possible)

On top of my list are:

Samsung Galaxy S 2
HTC Incredible S
Motorola Atrix
LG Optimus 2X

How do these phones compare to each other AND iphone 4?
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i would say Nexus S...

no pt getting the best hardware when u re tied down by lack of update...
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Apr 1 2011, 04:22 PM)
Q3 to Q4? by then I am sure every rumored HTC phones is already out and available laugh.gif

you might want to pay attention to HTC Evo 3D and HTC Pyramid,
both have similar spec and are going to be the upcoming flagship devices from HTC, one of them ought to make it to Msia market
Otherwise I would resort to Samsung instead of Moto, Samsung Galaxy S II, which is another beast of a phone
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Hey!

Thanks for the info!

Yes I do have eyes on Pyramid but seems to be too early to say. Thought of Incredible S but it is already out. Prefer new hot phones then rclxms.gif

Samsung Galaxy? Hmm I guess I got to go and try it when it is out then. I tested my friend's Samsung Galaxy S and doesn't like the feel of it.

Seriously need a powerful phone and planning do some serious streaming on it. Like the HTC standing thingy that comes with the phones (most phones)...
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QUOTE(sepet @ Apr 1 2011, 04:57 PM)
Antara byk2 telefon android yang mana bagus & harga berpatutan? ada sesapa boleh suggest x?
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Samsung Galaxy Ace for RM900 or Acer Liquid Metal at RM1100

Both have pros and cons. Ace for the better camera and price. Liquid Metal for the processor(Flash compatible) build quality and screen.

QUOTE(nicregi @ Apr 1 2011, 05:44 PM)
Hey!

Thanks for the info!

Yes I do have eyes on Pyramid but seems to be too early to say. Thought of Incredible S but it is already out. Prefer new hot phones then  rclxms.gif

Samsung Galaxy? Hmm I guess I got to go and try it when it is out then. I tested my friend's Samsung Galaxy S and doesn't like the feel of it.

Seriously need a powerful phone and planning do some serious streaming on it. Like the HTC standing thingy that comes with the phones (most phones)...
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Pyramid seems to be a rumour thats too exaggerated. IMO just wait for the official release of the SGS 2 or buy the HTC IS. By the standing think i think you mean the stand from the camera's cover. Not all phones have it though.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 1 2011, 06:51 PM)
Pyramid seems to be a rumour thats too exaggerated. IMO just wait for the official release of the SGS 2 or buy the HTC IS. By the standing think i think you mean the stand from the camera's cover. Not all phones have it though.
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Apr 1 2011, 08:19 PM)
IMO by Q3 HTC IS will already be insignificant laugh.gif
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Dual core phones aren't necessary. Yet. Most apps aren't dual core optimized yet(including benchmarks) so why chase the dual core fad? The touchscreen fad was a different thing as phones CAN utilze it. Dual core phones most probably wouldn't be fully optimized until at least next year.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 1 2011, 08:45 PM)
Dual core phones aren't necessary. Yet. Most apps aren't dual core optimized yet(including benchmarks) so why chase the dual core fad? The touchscreen fad was a different thing as phones CAN utilze it. Dual core phones most probably wouldn't be fully optimized until at least next year.
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its not about dual core laugh.gif
by that time Desire S and the real HTC flagship device will be available,
why bother with IS at all?
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 1 2011, 04:00 PM)
IMO go for IS if you dont mind having mediocre battery life. SRS Digital surround is superb. DHD's speaker quality is already good much less doubting its successor's capabilities. One of the best HTC cameras to date.
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I heard from others forum htc speaker is really sucks..u can enjoy srs only with earphone.....Huhu..r u a phone tester??


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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 1 2011, 09:45 PM)
Dual core phones aren't necessary. Yet. Most apps aren't dual core optimized yet(including benchmarks) so why chase the dual core fad? The touchscreen fad was a different thing as phones CAN utilze it. Dual core phones most probably wouldn't be fully optimized until at least next year.
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I heard from others forum htc speaker is really sucks..u can enjoy srs only with earphone.....Huhu..r u a phone tester??


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lolx htc phone really so bad ?
so far i just know htc camera bad,now speaker also o.O ?
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lolx htc phone really so bad ?
so far i just know htc camera bad,now speaker also o.O ?
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uhh, HTC's camera isn't THAT bad to begin with,let alone the speaker, which is also fine actually sweat.gif
both speaker and camera still gets the job done.

plus, why would you trust what khal said doh.gif
he's the basher of all phones except Motorola

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uhh, HTC's camera isn't THAT bad to begin with,let alone the speaker, which is also fine actually sweat.gif
both speaker and camera still gets the job done.

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my budget is around 1k-2k,minimum 4 inch screen,can play lots of games smoothly,looking for htc,samsung or motorola
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my budget is around 1k-2k,minimum 4 inch screen,can play lots of games smoothly,looking for htc,samsung or motorola
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between SGS and HTC IS,which is better?what r the prices for both
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between SGS and HTC IS,which is better?what r the prices for both
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SGS price around RM1.5k
HC IS around RM1.6k
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 2 2011, 04:37 PM)
depends on u
SGS price around RM1.5k
HC IS around RM1.6k
*correct me if im wrong ~
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lol at khal being a Moto fanboy.

You're not wrong BTW.

SGS: Better battery life and has a much better GPU and also the S-AMOLED screen. Sadly faces lag issues without applying a fix(also faces GPS issues IINM). Build quality is average

IS: Good build quality, average battery life, SLCD screen(Not as good as S-AMOLED), Better camera than the SGS but has a weird shaped back. 1GHZ 8255(Same as its predecessor, the DHD), and has more ram(768mb). Would help during multitasking. Biggest dealbreaker is that it has a locked bootloader.

P.S: and yes, khal. I have tested a few phones before.

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 2 2011, 04:37 PM)
depends on u
SGS price around RM1.5k
HC IS around RM1.6k
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so thats the ori price rite?
any other phone u guys recommend
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QUOTE(ketchum92 @ Apr 2 2011, 07:15 PM)
so thats the ori price rite?
any other phone u guys recommend
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Both are AP sets price.
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QUOTE(astria @ Mar 31 2011, 10:39 AM)
Samsung Galaxy Ace, SE Xperia X10 (need to wait for the upgrade though)...


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Galaxy Ace
Pro:
Large monitor (for the class)
possible Gingerbread update from Samsung
Con:
No Flash

Liquid Metal
Pro:
Snapdragon CPU (=Flash)
pretty nice build
higher resolution (though monitor size is around the same)
Con:
Practically zero support in XDA forum (this can be a real deal breaker, even though hardware is good)

another choice would be SE Xperia X10, and wait for Gingerbread update, or Motorola Defy...
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QUOTE(astria @ Mar 31 2011, 12:51 PM)
Nexus S (has front cam but normal back cam), Incredible S (same like Nexus S), Xperia X10 (good back cam but no front cam), if u can't wait...

else wait for SE Xperia Arc...
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TQ Astria... mindset weight more on X10 now.. btw, do u know Xperia Arc will cost how much?
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QUOTE(richrich @ Apr 2 2011, 08:40 PM)
TQ Astria... mindset weight more on X10 now.. btw, do u know Xperia Arc will cost how much?
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Arc would cost around 2.5k on launch. IMO if you need the camera, go for the IS. The camera is pretty good.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 2 2011, 08:42 PM)
Arc would cost around 2.5k on launch. IMO if you need the camera, go for the IS. The camera is pretty good.
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thanks DarkKnight...out of my budget ady... IS too...

getting IS on DG SmartPlan oso not practical 4 me..is it a must to must internet on Android?
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Getting a smart phone but no data plan? what is the purpose of smart phone? you cannot online anytime at anyplace...must find wifi hotspot...like this better buy a normal phone right?



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QUOTE(richrich @ Apr 2 2011, 08:50 PM)
thanks DarkKnight...out of my budget ady... IS too...

getting IS on DG SmartPlan oso not practical 4 me..is it a must to must internet on Android?
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Not necessarily. If you're the kind who likes to stay connected all times then yes. If you're not, you can get the 1gb plan and switch off your mobile networks in the options.

QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 2 2011, 08:52 PM)
getting a smart phone but no data plan? what is the purpose of smart phone? you cannot online anytime at anyplace...must find wifi hotspot...like this better buy a normal phone better
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. A smartphone does things a dumbphone can't. Just because you can't stay online all the time doesn't null its capabilities.. Just reduces it.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 2 2011, 08:55 PM)
Not necessarily. If you're the kind who likes to stay connected all times then yes. If you're not, you can get the 1gb plan and switch off your mobile networks in the options.
. A smartphone does things a dumbphone can't. Just because you can't stay online all the time doesn't null its capabilities.. Just reduces it.
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 2 2011, 08:52 PM)
Getting a smart phone but no data plan? what is the purpose of smart phone? you cannot online anytime at anyplace...must find wifi hotspot...like this better buy a normal phone right?
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+1

buyin a phone bt not fully utilizin the full potential
is tat money well spent or money well throw

how bout we look at it from a more easier point of view

u buy a bmw or how bout a fairlady
u just drive maximum 60 to 80

wont gettin a proton b much more btr

wit tat said
its not bout downgradin the users or drivers here
bt wit the money saved in not gettin a bmw n gettin the proton
u can get some other stuffs n such

so if u are not plannin on usin the internet capabilities
why not save the extra money in buyin a normal phone n use the savings for a rainy day

tat is wat im tryin to tell my gf also
she is eyein the arc ....
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is samsung galaxy ace good to use????????
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so thats the ori price rite?
any other phone u guys recommend
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ap price,ori i not sure
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what are the mid end gingerbread these days?
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kind of weird. why nobody asking for Samsung Galazy SL? ohmy.gif
is this phone suck?
please advise.

wat other phone recommended for price tag 1k-1.5k. (ori)?
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i am not familiar with Android phone, but thinking to buy one.
"Free" GPS navigation is my only concern to Android.
Actually, any "free" GPS navigation for Android?
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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Apr 2 2011, 09:33 PM)
+1

buyin a phone bt not fully utilizin the full potential
is tat money well spent or money well throw

how bout we look at it from a more easier point of view

u buy a bmw or how bout a fairlady
u just drive maximum 60 to 80

wont gettin a proton b much more btr

wit tat said
its not bout downgradin the users or drivers here
bt wit the money saved in not gettin a bmw n gettin the proton
u can get some other stuffs n such

so if u are not plannin on usin the internet capabilities
why not save the extra money in buyin a normal phone n use the savings for a rainy day

tat is wat im tryin to tell my gf also
she is eyein the arc ....
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Not everyone uses a phone to its full ptential... I have yet to find someone who uses his Android FULL-TIME to read ebooks, navigate with GPS, take photos, take videos, update Facebook, watch YouTube, listen to MP3, listen to radio, watch videos, play games, video call, flash ROMs, etc. Do you do that all the time? For me, if someone does half of that (they don't even need a data line), it's worthwhile already. You might say, "then get a dumbphone", but the features of the smartphone is AVAILABLE to you, and you can use it when you want, just not all the time. No data plan? Got wifi ma... sync when you can lah... no big deal...
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Ace is okay if you don't mind not having flash. Overall 7.5/10 phone.

QUOTE(shlimsk @ Apr 3 2011, 08:35 AM)
kind of weird. why nobody asking for Samsung Galazy SL? ohmy.gif
is this phone suck?
please advise.

wat other phone recommended for price tag 1k-1.5k. (ori)?
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SL has lower ram and a nerfed processor/gpu. Only upside is that you get to try the SC-LCD which is on par with the S-AMOLED(reviews said so). I wouldn't recommend it. Also build quality is similar to SGS. Quite average. For 1-1.5k phones, you can get the Acer Liquid metal which has a better build quality, higher ram than the SL, and stock froyo is available. Though there aren't any custom roms support from XDA and it has a sub par camera but i doubt you can't live with that. RM1100 for ori set.

QUOTE(ping0613 @ Apr 3 2011, 10:14 AM)
i am not familiar with Android phone, but thinking to buy one.
"Free" GPS navigation is my only concern to Android.
Actually, any "free" GPS navigation for Android?
can PM me if not suitable to reply here. smile.gif
thanks
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Every GPS capable phone can use offline GPS maps. Example: Papago x5. Just get someone to install it for you(for a fee of course) or go through the trouble of installing it yourself.
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currently i have an interest in htc wildfire.
any other phone with similar spec that i could look at?
price range from 1-1.5k. sankyu
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Apr 3 2011, 10:35 AM)
Not everyone uses a phone to its full ptential... I have yet to find someone who uses his Android FULL-TIME to read ebooks, navigate with GPS, take photos, take videos, update Facebook, watch YouTube, listen to MP3, listen to radio, watch videos, play games, video call, flash ROMs, etc.  Do you do that all the time?  For me, if someone does half of that (they don't even need a data line), it's worthwhile already.  You might say, "then get a dumbphone", but the features of the smartphone is AVAILABLE to you, and you can use it when you want, just not all the time.  No data plan?  Got wifi ma... sync when you can lah... no big deal...
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a valid point from u
bt then again
im doin almost all tat u mention n some
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se xperia arc or samsung galaxy s ?
kinda like the camera n design of arc.
but sgs seems like have alot support. sgs also cheaper. lol

susah choose
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Android also got good GPS software. Eg papago.

HTC wildfire over price. Go for ace.
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a valid point from u
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bro, how many times do you charge you phone in one day?
what phone u use?
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Android also got good GPS software. Eg papago.

HTC wildfire over price. Go for ace.
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ace?
whats that? i couldnt find it in htc website

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currently i have an interest in htc wildfire.
any other phone with similar spec that i could look at?
price range from 1-1.5k. sankyu
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get samsung galaxy ace or samsung galaxy S(ap set)

QUOTE(theWeird_Weird @ Apr 3 2011, 01:16 PM)
se xperia arc or samsung galaxy s ?
kinda like the camera n design of arc.
but sgs seems like have alot support. sgs also cheaper. lol

susah choose
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its much cheaper and almost same spec with arc ~
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ace?
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Guys can you all recommend me is it worth to buy Samsung Galaxy SL? AP set Galaxy S has lower price than Galaxy SL (ori). Or just get Galaxy Ace?
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QUOTE(RedsInHell @ Apr 3 2011, 02:06 PM)
bro, how many times do you charge you phone in one day?
what phone u use?
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im usin 2 battery per day
xperia 10
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get samsung galaxy ace or samsung galaxy S(ap set)
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thanks
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android not exlusive for HTC ony mehh... tongue.gif ..some phone better than certain HTC phone...
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doh.gif tongue.gif


Added on April 3, 2011, 4:19 pmbtw can u tell me why ace is better than wildfire?
other than the price of coz
and i kinda like htc sense.

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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Apr 3 2011, 12:53 PM)
currently i have an interest in htc wildfire.
any other phone with similar spec that i could look at?
price range from 1-1.5k. sankyu
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Wildfire is not a good choice. Either go for the Samsung Galaxy Ace(RM980) 5mp cam, 800mhz proc Adreno200(overclocked 7227)Not flash capable, 256(or was it 384)mb ram. Average build quality and hVGA resolution

Acer Liquid metal(RM1160)5mp(Sub par quality), 800mhz with Adreno205(7230) Flash 10.1 capable, 512mb ram. Good build quality and WVGA(800x480) screen resolution

Captivate(RM14xx) 1ghz proc with GTX540(best GPU to date)(also flash capable), Super Amoled screen, 5mp camera(no flash), 512mb ram. Good build quality and WVGA reso

Motorola Defy(RM14xx) 1ghz Adreno 205, Shockproof/waterproof, Gorilla glass, flash 10.1 capable, 5mp camera, 512mb ram, Not sure about build quality and WVGA reso

a little over the budget but

HTC Incredible S(RM16xx AP Set)1ghz adreno 205, good 8mp camera, front camera, 4" screen, 768mb ram. Good build quality and WVGA reso.

QUOTE(mynewuser @ Apr 3 2011, 01:50 PM)
Android also got good GPS software. Eg papago.

HTC wildfire over price. Go for ace.
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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Apr 3 2011, 02:15 PM)
ace?
whats that? i couldnt find it in htc website
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Samsung phone.

QUOTE(khalpowers @ Apr 3 2011, 02:21 PM)
android not exlusive for HTC ony mehh... tongue.gif ..some phone better than certain HTC phone...
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I certainly hope you do not recommend the Xt720 again.


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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Apr 3 2011, 04:17 PM)


Added on April 3, 2011, 4:19 pmbtw can u tell me why ace is better than wildfire?
other than the price of coz
and i kinda like htc sense.
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Processor: Ace(800mhz), Wildfire(528mhz)
GPU: Ace(Adreno200), Wildfire(Adreno200)
Ram: Ace 256/384, Wildfire 512
Build quality: Ace(Average), Wildfire(Good)
Screen Size: Ace(3.5"), Wildfire(3.2")
Screen Reso: Ace(480x320), Wildfire (320x240)
Camera: Ace(5mp), Wildfire(5mp) Not sure about the quality.
OS Available: Ace(official FroYo), Wildfire(Official FroYo and CM7(Gingerbread))

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thanks
doh.gif tongue.gif


Added on April 3, 2011, 4:19 pmbtw can u tell me why ace is better than wildfire?
other than the price of coz
and i kinda like htc sense.
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other than price,SGA(ace) has better processor than wildfire
furthermore has bigger screen,big 0.3inch screen
and lighter 5g,got n-type wifi,camera sure good than wildfire =.=
c the below link for more information
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPho...4&idPhone2=3337

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My girl wants to buy an Android phone but her budget is only RM800..

Suggestions anyone?
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My girl wants to buy an Android phone but her budget is only RM800..

Suggestions anyone?
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SE Xperia x8,lg optimus one,csl mi410
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 3 2011, 05:03 PM)
SE Xperia x8,lg optimus one,csl mi410
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But I heard Xperia doesn't have multitouch.. LG Optimus One, will look into it.. No Msia brand phone btw.. Thanks thumbup.gif
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But I heard Xperia doesn't have multitouch.. LG Optimus One, will look into it.. No Msia brand phone btw.. Thanks thumbup.gif
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okays,then lg optimus one is ur best choice
if u gf willing to top up abit,go for samsung galaxy ace ~
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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Apr 3 2011, 05:06 PM)
But I heard Xperia doesn't have multitouch.. LG Optimus One, will look into it.. No Msia brand phone btw.. Thanks thumbup.gif
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raise your budget a little and get the Samsung Galaxy Ace. But O1 is good enough if you prefer having better build quality and like multitasking.
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How about Motorola? Any of them in the range of 800-900?
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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Apr 3 2011, 05:42 PM)
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RM 1200 ish for DEFY. (AP Set) whistling.gif

Other than that. nope.


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I is damned. Asked so many times, yet none is suitable.

I bumped up my budget to RM1.5K

Can I get HTC Incredible S for this price?
If not, go hell with it. I'll just wait for new gingerbread phones. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Chyan @ Apr 3 2011, 07:05 PM)
I is damned. Asked so many times, yet none is suitable.

I bumped up my budget to RM1.5K

Can I get HTC Incredible S for this price?
If not, go hell with it. I'll just wait for new gingerbread phones. hmm.gif
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afaik AP sets are rm1.65k - rm1.7k...

besides, the first wave of GBread phones are all flagship devices...

else would be the previous flagship models like X10 and Desire which are receiving GBread updates in the coming 1-2mths...


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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Apr 3 2011, 05:06 PM)
But I heard Xperia doesn't have multitouch.. LG Optimus One, will look into it.. No Msia brand phone btw.. Thanks thumbup.gif
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honestly, i think no multitouch on X8 is not really a big deal... my mum is using and she never complains abt that...

but no GBread update? that's a deal breaker...

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QUOTE(41LY45 @ Apr 3 2011, 06:03 PM)
RM 1200 ish for  DEFY. (AP Set)  whistling.gif

Other than that. nope.
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What about Milestone & Droid? Are they not released in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Apr 3 2011, 11:30 PM)
What about Milestone & Droid? Are they not released in Malaysia?
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Milestone? that's old stuff dude.

Go for Milestone 2 or Droid 2 Global.
Both cost around 1.7k.
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QUOTE(41LY45 @ Apr 3 2011, 11:37 PM)
Milestone?  that's old stuff dude.

Go for Milestone 2 or Droid 2 Global.
Both cost around 1.7k.
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But old stuff is cheap biggrin.gif

I heard that the stock for Milestone is very limited here..

But what is the price of X10 now?

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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 3 2011, 04:24 PM)
Wildfire is not a good choice. Either go for the Samsung Galaxy Ace(RM980) 5mp cam, 800mhz proc Adreno200(overclocked 7227)Not flash capable, 256(or was it 384)mb ram. Average build quality and hVGA resolution

Acer Liquid metal(RM1160)5mp(Sub par quality), 800mhz with Adreno205(7230) Flash 10.1 capable, 512mb ram. Good build quality and WVGA(800x480) screen resolution

Captivate(RM14xx) 1ghz proc with GTX540(best GPU to date)(also flash capable), Super Amoled screen, 5mp camera(no flash), 512mb ram. Good build quality and WVGA reso

Motorola Defy(RM14xx) 1ghz Adreno 205, Shockproof/waterproof, Gorilla glass, flash 10.1 capable, 5mp camera, 512mb ram, Not sure about build quality and WVGA reso

a little over the budget but

HTC Incredible S(RM16xx AP Set)1ghz adreno 205, good 8mp camera, front camera, 4" screen, 768mb ram. Good build quality and WVGA reso.
Samsung phone.
I certainly hope you do not recommend the Xt720 again.


Added on April 3, 2011, 4:29 pm
Processor: Ace(800mhz), Wildfire(528mhz)
GPU: Ace(Adreno200), Wildfire(Adreno200)
Ram: Ace 256/384, Wildfire 512
Build quality: Ace(Average), Wildfire(Good)
Screen Size: Ace(3.5"), Wildfire(3.2")
Screen Reso: Ace(480x320), Wildfire (320x240)
Camera: Ace(5mp), Wildfire(5mp) Not sure about the quality.
OS Available: Ace(official FroYo), Wildfire(Official FroYo and CM7(Gingerbread))
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 3 2011, 04:31 PM)
other than price,SGA(ace) has better processor than wildfire
furthermore has bigger screen,big 0.3inch screen
and lighter 5g,got n-type wifi,camera sure good than wildfire =.=
c the below link for more information
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPho...4&idPhone2=3337
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wow, thankyou both for the detail reply.
i did some reading and i think imma gonna look further into galaxy ace.
thanks again

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But old stuff is cheap  biggrin.gif

I heard that the stock for Milestone is very limited here..

But what is the price of X10 now?
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Hello Android fans.

I'm wondering if there's any new Android phones under RM1000? Don't care about brand or spec. Just need it to run on at least Froyo.

I'm developing an Android app and need a phone for testing purposes.

Any recommendation?

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QUOTE(tunefort @ Apr 4 2011, 01:01 AM)
Hello Android fans.

I'm wondering if there's any new Android phones under RM1000? Don't care about brand or spec. Just need it to run on at least Froyo.

I'm developing an Android app and need a phone for testing purposes.

Any recommendation?
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Yeah man, I desperately need a dev phone. I would love a Nexus One but dont't think can get a used one under RM1000.
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Probably can get it for 1k to 1.2k ish la.

But i'm not too sure.
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the mainstream models... LG Optimus One, Samsung Galaxy Ace, Motorola Defy...

if dun mind old models, SE Xperia X10, HTC Desire, Samsung Captivate... these are all flagship models of 2010
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Need you advise. I sold out my WF because of its low config. Need to get another android.. Pls suggest I do not want to sell anymore.

1. Brand. - Any
2. Budget. (1k - 1.5k) (lower is better)
3. Specs. (Processor / RAM - No idea/ OS Version - latest / screen size - 3.5 ~ 4)
4. What you need in the phone Battery life? good camera, screen, play games & applications fast & smooth.

Waiting for the advise...I have only SGA in my mind - others not really done any research.
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Motorola Defy, SE Xperia X10, Samsung Captivate, HTC Dsire
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or try liquid metal.
looks kewl nuff
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Harlow dear Android-sans, with rm1.3k can buy what Android? TQ.
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acer liquid metal,SE x10,motorola defy

QUOTE(panand @ Apr 4 2011, 11:53 AM)
Need you advise. I sold out my WF because of its low config. Need to get another android.. Pls suggest I do not want to sell anymore.

1. Brand. - Any
2. Budget. (1k - 1.5k) (lower is better)
3. Specs. (Processor  / RAM - No idea/ OS Version - latest / screen size - 3.5 ~ 4)
4. What you need in the phone Battery life? good camera, screen, play games & applications fast & smooth.

Waiting for the advise...I have only SGA in my mind - others not really done any research.
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acer liquid metal,SE x10,motorola defy
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Motorola Defy still can tweak right?

Hm. Still confusing.. Samsung Galaxy S? HTC Wildfire? Motorola Defy?
Secondary camera not compulsory.
Love something unique. Can tweak2. That's all. Hmm

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QUOTE(Coldf3ar @ Apr 4 2011, 01:46 PM)
Motorola Defy still can tweak right?

Hm. Still confusing.. Samsung Galaxy S? HTC Wildfire? Motorola Defy?
Secondary camera not compulsory.
Love something unique. Can tweak2. That's all. Hmm
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Customize / flash anything.
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 4 2011, 01:17 PM)
acer liquid metal,SE x10,motorola defy
acer liquid metal,SE x10,motorola defy
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Thank you...must do some research on these...
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this is the one confirm got 2.3 update
others 2 of them,dunno whether got 2.3 update anot
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QUOTE(astria @ Apr 4 2011, 11:45 AM)
the mainstream models... LG Optimus One, Samsung Galaxy Ace, Motorola Defy...

if dun mind old models, SE Xperia X10, HTC Desire, Samsung Captivate... these are all flagship models of 2010
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 4 2011, 01:17 PM)
acer liquid metal,SE x10,motorola defy
acer liquid metal,SE x10,motorola defy
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Tqtqtqtqtq notworthy.gif But really not much choices for me. I think I wait for another week laugh.gif
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Harlow dear Android-sans, with rm1.3k can buy what Android? TQ.
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Galaxy Ace looks like a great buy at its price.
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But for the specs/price Acer Liquid Metal is still better laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Apr 4 2011, 05:11 PM)
Tqtqtqtqtq notworthy.gif But really not much choices for me. I think I wait for another week laugh.gif
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If you frequently drop/damage your phone, Defy is a good buy. The sides and colour won't chip off easily. +, its shockproof and waterproof. Liquid Metal is better if you like slim designs. It looks very minimalistic IMO.
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hi there,

would like to ask sifus here...what's the LYN market price for a dell streak? new and used?

also, can it be upgraded to GB?

thanks

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Customize / flash anything.
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then stay away from Moto... their devices have been locked down pretty tightly...

HTC is usually the choice when u want to "abuse" to the max...


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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Apr 4 2011, 06:32 PM)
But for the specs/price Acer Liquid Metal is still better laugh.gif
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to me, Acer Liquid Metal with zero support in XDA forum is a deal breaker...


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QUOTE(ravewar @ Apr 4 2011, 07:17 PM)
hi there,

would like to ask sifus here...what's the LYN market price for a dell streak? new and used?

also, can it be upgraded to GB?

thanks
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can is 1 thing... whether Dell releases is another thing...

a peek in XDA forum shows that even the ROM devs are fiddling with Android 2.2.2 only...

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QUOTE(Coldf3ar @ Apr 4 2011, 03:00 PM)
Customize / flash anything.
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HTC is your best friend. It never gets aggresive. Its always open. Sounds like i just described a hooker tongue.gif. Anyways HTC Desire would be good if not for the old GPU. Htc devices tend to have more support from XDA or any other custom mod forums.

QUOTE(ravewar @ Apr 4 2011, 07:17 PM)
hi there,

would like to ask sifus here...what's the LYN market price for a dell streak? new and used?

also, can it be upgraded to GB?

thanks
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Around 1.3-1.5k for a new one. Haven't seen a used one before. Should be around 800-1k. GB no. FroYo is as far as it goes. Not much support from xDA.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 4 2011, 07:09 PM)
If you frequently drop/damage your phone, Defy is a good buy. The sides and colour won't chip off easily. +, its shockproof and waterproof. Liquid Metal is better if you like slim designs. It looks very minimalistic IMO.
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Still thinking about it. thanks notworthy.gif

QUOTE(astria @ Apr 4 2011, 08:16 PM)
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Added on April 4, 2011, 8:16 pm

to me, Acer Liquid Metal with zero support in XDA forum is a deal breaker...


Added on April 4, 2011, 8:19 pm
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The steps of flashing rom everything looks complicated to me laugh.gif
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Still thinking about it. thanks notworthy.gif
The steps of flashing rom everything looks complicated to me laugh.gif
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No prob. After flashing for the 1st time. Everything starts to seem easier. At least that was what i felt.
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Optimus One or Galaxy Ace??

Both have their pros and cons..
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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Apr 4 2011, 09:21 PM)
Optimus One or Galaxy Ace??

Both have their pros and cons..
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Galaxy Ace would be my choice...


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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Apr 4 2011, 08:48 PM)
Still thinking about it. thanks notworthy.gif
The steps of flashing rom everything looks complicated to me laugh.gif
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main problem is, Acer dun seem too interested with keeping it's Android devices up to date...

so it'a basically "here-u-go-no-update-in-the-future" device, and that sucks...

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QUOTE(astria @ Apr 4 2011, 09:56 PM)
Galaxy Ace would be my choice...


And why would it be? I need your opinion.
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I like big screen hp,most of the time I will use it to suft internet so I prefer big screen
I now using iPod touch but the 3.5" screen sometime make my eye so paintful to focus for long time

right now I considering Dell streak with 5" screen,I think the experience must be different.
Will consider tablet if the price are ok n with good function

so overall my criteria will be:
big screen
sufting net,fb,YouTube ,lot of google
phone function(atleast if tablet ,it won't be weird to use as phone or myb with headset)

any idea sifu here,
thk u very much

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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Apr 4 2011, 10:00 PM)
And why would it be? I need your opinion.
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larger monitor (3.5" instead of 3.2"), faster CPU (800MHz instead of 600MHz), capacitative buttons (subjective, feels cooler?), better camera (5MP with flash instead of 3.2MP no flash)

however, i think SE Xperia X10 is at a similar price....


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QUOTE(LiMcZ @ Apr 4 2011, 11:18 PM)
I like big screen hp,most of the time I will use it to suft internet so I prefer big screen
I now using iPod touch but the 3.5" screen sometime make my eye so paintful to focus for long time

right now I considering Dell streak with 5" screen,I think the experience must be different.
Will consider tablet if the price are ok n with good function

so overall my criteria will be:
big screen
sufting net,fb,YouTube ,lot of google
phone function(atleast if tablet ,it won't be weird to use as phone or myb with headset)

any idea sifu here,
thk u very much
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3.5" is already considered pretty big for a smartphone...

1 problem with large monitor is that it will blow up the size of the phone, making 1-hand operation difficult... also, larger monitor = more power consumed = less battery life...

calling with tablets mean that u can only use the speaker, unless u use earphone with mic or BT headsets...

anyway, if u insist...

HTC Desire HD (4.3"), SE Xperia Arc (4.2"), HTC Incredible S (4"), Samsung Galaxy S (4"). SE Xperia X10 (4")

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hi guys:)
Other than Xperia x10 that had been comfirm upgrading at 2.3 gingerbread ..Galaxy S HTC all sense stops at 2.2 only?..
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QUOTE(mrvenkon @ Apr 5 2011, 01:28 AM)
hi guys:)
Other than Xperia x10 that had been comfirm upgrading at 2.3 gingerbread ..Galaxy S HTC all sense stops at 2.2 only?..
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All will have Gingerbread bro. The matter is when. sweat.gif sweat.gif


HTC will of course stick to their promise, Samsung, will (based on past performance) be late in delivering them.
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lg optimus 2x or htc incredible s?
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[quote=xDarkKnightx,Apr 3 2011, 11:08 AM]
Ace is okay if you don't mind not having flash. Overall 7.5/10 phone.
SL has lower ram and a nerfed processor/gpu. Only upside is that you get to try the SC-LCD which is on par with the S-AMOLED(reviews said so). I wouldn't recommend it. Also build quality is similar to SGS. Quite average. For 1-1.5k phones, you can get the Acer Liquid metal which has a better build quality, higher ram than the SL, and stock froyo is available. Though there aren't any custom roms support from XDA and it has a sub par camera but i doubt you can't live with that. RM1100 for ori set.



in that case, is the software/hardware support from Acer is at par with HTC or Samsung?

for rm1100, will it suggest to consider samsung ace & price shld be around rm950.

TQ
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QUOTE(mrvenkon @ Apr 5 2011, 01:28 AM)
hi guys:)
Other than Xperia x10 that had been comfirm upgrading at 2.3 gingerbread ..Galaxy S HTC all sense stops at 2.2 only?..
thanks
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Galaxy S already ve some beta Gingerbread ROM floating around the Internet...

Desire, so far wat i heard is that 3 UK will release it in late April/early May, while Telstra AU said early June...


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QUOTE(shlimsk @ Apr 5 2011, 08:49 AM)
in that case, is the software/hardware support from Acer is at par with HTC or Samsung?

for rm1100, will it suggest to consider samsung ace & price shld be around rm950.

TQ
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so far Acer dun seem interested with keeping it's phones up to date... they ve already released so many Liquid phones and yet not even rumours were heard regarding ROM upgrade...

at such budget u may wanna consider SE Xperia X10 as well... it will receive Gingerbread in approx. 2mths time


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QUOTE(moonsault @ Apr 5 2011, 04:49 AM)
lg optimus 2x or htc incredible s?
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depends on how often u change ur phone...

1yr, juz grab Incredible S... sure it's single core, but it's already more than sufficient...

more than that Optimus 2X...

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No prob. After flashing for the 1st time. Everything starts to seem easier. At least that was what i felt.
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I think youtube got vids step by step flash rom etc etc laugh.gif

QUOTE(astria @ Apr 4 2011, 09:56 PM)
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Added on April 4, 2011, 9:57 pm

main problem is, Acer dun seem too interested with keeping it's Android devices up to date...

so it'a basically "here-u-go-no-update-in-the-future" device, and that sucks...
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Bro , got ah, the old Liquid was updated to Froyo 2.2, cos the shop show it to me. Only that Acer din announce it. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Apr 5 2011, 11:47 AM)
I think youtube got vids step by step flash rom etc etc laugh.gif
Bro , got ah, the old Liquid was updated to Froyo 2.2, cos the shop show it to me. Only that Acer din announce it. thumbup.gif
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yeah, and that's 1 out of how many models?

HTC, Samsung and SE are all giving their previous flagship devices (Desire - 2.1 -> 2.2 -> 2.3, Galaxy S - 2.1 -> 2.2 -> 2.3, Xperia X10 - 1.6 -> 2.1 -> 2.3) a 2nd upgrade...

besides, the lack of 3rd party support means that if Acer decide not to do anything abt upgrade, u re pretty much stuck forever...
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[quote=LiMcZ,Apr 4 2011, 11:18 PM]
I like big screen hp,most of the time I will use it to suft internet so I prefer big screen
I now using iPod touch but the 3.5" screen sometime make my eye so paintful to focus for long time

right now I considering Dell streak with 5" screen,I think the experience must be different.
Will consider tablet if the price are ok n with good function

so overall my criteria will be:
big screen
sufting net,fb,YouTube ,lot of google
phone function(atleast if tablet ,it won't be weird to use as phone or myb with headset)

any idea sifu here,
thk u very much
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3.5" is the average size for smartphones. I suggest you get a tablet instead. Samsung Galaxy Tab

[quote=mrvenkon,Apr 5 2011, 01:28 AM]
hi guys:)
Other than Xperia x10 that had been comfirm upgrading at 2.3 gingerbread ..Galaxy S HTC all sense stops at 2.2 only?..
thanks
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[/quote]
Most if not all HTC/Samsung phones go through two OS updates. Then, they will probably not get any major updates.

[quote=shlimsk,Apr 5 2011, 08:49 AM]
[quote=xDarkKnightx,Apr 3 2011, 11:08 AM]
Ace is okay if you don't mind not having flash. Overall 7.5/10 phone.
SL has lower ram and a nerfed processor/gpu. Only upside is that you get to try the SC-LCD which is on par with the S-AMOLED(reviews said so). I wouldn't recommend it. Also build quality is similar to SGS. Quite average. For 1-1.5k phones, you can get the Acer Liquid metal which has a better build quality, higher ram than the SL, and stock froyo is available. Though there aren't any custom roms support from XDA and it has a sub par camera but i doubt you can't live with that. RM1100 for ori set.
in that case, is the software/hardware support from Acer is at par with HTC or Samsung?

for rm1100, will it suggest to consider samsung ace & price shld be around rm950.

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Software support for the ALM is minimal. While Ace has a larger user/fanbase, i'll personally go for the ALM. Go for Ace if you like it. But in comparison, the ALM is much better.

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sgs or htc is?
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SGS: Better GPU, Screen
IS: Better build quality, higher ram.
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QUOTE(astria @ Apr 4 2011, 11:59 PM)
larger monitor (3.5" instead of 3.2"), faster CPU (800MHz instead of 600MHz), capacitative buttons (subjective, feels cooler?), better camera (5MP with flash instead of 3.2MP no flash)

however, i think SE Xperia X10 is at a similar price....


Lol, my gf bought X10 smile.gif But, she can't get used to it and wants to change back to her W705 sad.gif
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Lol, my gf bought X10 smile.gif But, she can't get used to it and wants to change back to her W705 sad.gif
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Lol, my gf bought X10 smile.gif But, she can't get used to it and wants to change back to her W705 sad.gif
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that's mentality problem...

use smartphone as a smartphone, not dumbphone...
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haha 1st time use android sure like this ~
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QUOTE(astria @ Apr 5 2011, 09:29 PM)
that's mentality problem...

use smartphone as a smartphone, not dumbphone...
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I told her that it's much better.. But she says the camera in W705 is clearer. How can that be?
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Yeap.. First time.
I told her that it's much better.. But she says the camera in W705 is clearer. How can that be?
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Never thought I'd be posting here since I do solo research.. but this has been bugging me:

Battle Royale >> HTC Incredible S vs. Sony Arc <<<<< ???????? rclxub.gif

IS
- no rooting yet, complicated by locked down bootloader? Pretty much 50/50 for now if and when can be rooted rclxub.gif
- techy/geeky design due to the hunchback, and only in black so far
- when placed face down, camera lens touches table. prefer not to have case sweat.gif
- long volume bar not much tactile feedback, easy to mispress
- still on Froyo
+ got HTC Sense, which is one of the better custom skins = HTC Locations for cached maps without needing Internet connection
+ dual LED flash
+ front camera
Price around RM1,700 (RM1,570 AP)

Arc
- no root yet, but online comments indicate Sony might actually encourage "responsible" rooting
- physical back button reported to be too close to screen, easy to mispress
- whites on the screen might be slightly yellowish compared to other phones ohmy.gif
- plastic back is fingerprint magnet
- no music playback controls on lock screen
- no front-facing camera
+ on Gingerbread 2.3.2 w00t
+ cool arty design, available in silver, black, blue, etc thumbup.gif
+ thinner at 8.7mm and lighter drool.gif
+ dedicated camera button, although unfortunately small and hard to press
+ slightly higher display resolution (854 x 480)
+ better battery life (1500mAh)
> claimed "back lighted Exmor R" camera sensor, but most online reviews show marginal low-light performance only?
> Bravia display is also not a big deal according to some reviews
Price around RM1,900 (RM1,700 AP) ohmy.gif

Anyone has any of these phones??

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ask ur gf slowly learn how to use
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I am trying.. I taught her a few tricks.
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o.O,then u teach her the tips and tricks ~
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hye guys..ive been considering seriously in buying galaxy ace.. but, it was mentioned somwhere that it does not support flash.. what are the downfalls or incapabilities that may occur by the lack of flash support?
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QUOTE(hspace @ Apr 5 2011, 10:39 PM)
Never thought I'd be posting here since I do solo research.. but this has been bugging me:

Battle Royale >>  HTC Incredible S vs. Sony Arc <<<<< ????????  rclxub.gif

IS
- no rooting yet, complicated by locked down bootloader? Pretty much 50/50 for now if and when can be rooted  rclxub.gif
- techy/geeky design due to the hunchback, and only in black so far
    - when placed face down, camera lens touches table. prefer not to have case sweat.gif
- long volume bar not much tactile feedback, easy to mispress
- still on Froyo
+ got HTC Sense, which is one of the better custom skins = HTC Locations for cached maps without needing Internet connection
+ dual LED flash
+ front camera
Price around RM1,700 (RM1,570 AP)

Arc
- no root yet, but online comments indicate Sony might actually encourage "responsible" rooting
- physical back button reported to be too close to screen, easy to mispress
- whites on the screen might be slightly yellowish compared to other phones  ohmy.gif
- plastic back is fingerprint magnet
- no music playback controls on lock screen
- no front-facing camera
+ on Gingerbread 2.3.2 w00t
+ cool arty design, available in silver, black, blue, etc  thumbup.gif
+ thinner at 8.7mm and lighter drool.gif
+ dedicated camera button, although unfortunately small and hard to press
+ slightly higher display resolution (854 x 480)
+ better battery life (1500mAh)
> claimed "back lighted Exmor R" camera sensor, but most online reviews show marginal low-light performance only?
> Bravia display is also not a big deal according to some reviews
Price around RM1,900 (RM1,700 AP)  ohmy.gif

Anyone has any of these phones??
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HTC's lockdown on bootloader is not as strict as the others... Thunderbolt and Desire Z are cracked within 2 weeks...

IS will ve Gingerbread... HTC is going to update it...

Sense is the best bloatware that i ve ever used... but problem is, HTCSense.com is broken, sync with HTCSense.com uses quite a lot of data... HTC Locations? Google Maps already supports caching...

for Arc, the music playback problem is easily solved with apps...

1 minus of Arc is that it doesn't ve ambient light sensor to adjust the brightness of the monitor...
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so far i don't see what's the advantage of android 2.3. 2.2 is a huge leap from 2.1 in terms of performance boost. 2.3 is less monumental.

about HTCSense.com, at least it's there and it's only time till HTC weed out the bugs. Other brands don't even have anything close to a service like that.
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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Apr 5 2011, 11:02 PM)
so far i don't see what's the advantage of android 2.3. 2.2 is a huge leap from 2.1 in terms of performance boost. 2.3 is less monumental.

about HTCSense.com, at least it's there and it's only time till HTC weed out the bugs. Other brands don't even have anything close to a service like that.
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1) enhancements for game development, including a new concurrent garbage collector, more native APIs, faster event distribution, updated video drivers, and new sensors (gyroscope) – this is amazing for developers; expect gaming to get a lot more responsive and versatile
2) lots and lots of attention in the above bullet point has been given to the NDK – the Native Development Kit. This is simply excellent. Look in the 2.3 highlights for more details
3) NFC (Near Field Communications) support
4) UI updates for speed and simplicity
5) better, faster, more intuitive text input, selection, and copy/pasting
6) support for WebM, VP8, AAC, and AMR-wideband encodings
7) new native audio effects, such as reverb, equalization, headphones visualization, and bass boost
8) front-facing camera and SIP/VOIP support
9) improved power management
10) better control over applications
11) downloads management via a new Downloads app
12) 2.6.35 Linux kernel
13) improvements to core libraries:
- HTTP responses are gzipped by default. XML and JSON API response sizes may be reduced by 60% or more
- faster Formatter and number formatting. For example, float formatting is 2.5x faster
the main updates of Gingerbread, there's more, of course

HTCSense.com is not new... Lookout has already been around sometime which offers similar service...
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@ astria > Oh, you mean Google Maps 5? Can it be used for Malaysia/Asia? I thought only US, and have to use that "Brut" maps hack for other countries?

@ DJFoo000
If you notice, I didn't list out htcsense.com in the features for the IS.
"Prey" does almost the same thing, is working right now, and is free. rclxms.gif It's amazing. Can work across brands. Just search for it in Market or online.

@ astria > Thanks for the GB list. Hmm.. wonder if the Arc has hidden NFC capability. smile.gif

How about actual daily usage of the IS vs. Arc? Anyone?


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well, Google Navigation supports North America, Europe and Australia at the moment... Maps Brut would unlock that in Asia...

afaik, Nexus S is the only phone with NFC now...
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Yeah, she's sticking to the X10. Hurray!
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QUOTE(hspace @ Apr 5 2011, 10:39 PM)
Never thought I'd be posting here since I do solo research.. but this has been bugging me:

Battle Royale >>  HTC Incredible S vs. Sony Arc <<<<< ????????  rclxub.gif

IS
- no rooting yet, complicated by locked down bootloader? Pretty much 50/50 for now if and when can be rooted  rclxub.gif
- techy/geeky design due to the hunchback, and only in black so far
    - when placed face down, camera lens touches table. prefer not to have case sweat.gif
- long volume bar not much tactile feedback, easy to mispress
- still on Froyo
+ got HTC Sense, which is one of the better custom skins = HTC Locations for cached maps without needing Internet connection
+ dual LED flash
+ front camera
Price around RM1,700 (RM1,570 AP)

Arc
- no root yet, but online comments indicate Sony might actually encourage "responsible" rooting
- physical back button reported to be too close to screen, easy to mispress
- whites on the screen might be slightly yellowish compared to other phones  ohmy.gif
- plastic back is fingerprint magnet
- no music playback controls on lock screen
- no front-facing camera
+ on Gingerbread 2.3.2 w00t
+ cool arty design, available in silver, black, blue, etc  thumbup.gif
+ thinner at 8.7mm and lighter drool.gif
+ dedicated camera button, although unfortunately small and hard to press
+ slightly higher display resolution (854 x 480)
+ better battery life (1500mAh)
> claimed "back lighted Exmor R" camera sensor, but most online reviews show marginal low-light performance only?
> Bravia display is also not a big deal according to some reviews
Price around RM1,900 (RM1,700 AP)  ohmy.gif

Anyone has any of these phones??
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IS will get GBread in June. Arc is not a great buy due to the price and also how SE tend to delay updates. The Bravia display isn't a big deal like you said. They're just exaggerating the pros and diffusing the cons. IS is a much better device. the extra 4 lines won't be such a big difference. Build quality is also inferior is compared to the IS.
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QUOTE(hspace @ Apr 5 2011, 10:39 PM)
Never thought I'd be posting here since I do solo research.. but this has been bugging me:

Battle Royale >>  HTC Incredible S vs. Sony Arc <<<<< ????????  rclxub.gif

IS
- no rooting yet, complicated by locked down bootloader? Pretty much 50/50 for now if and when can be rooted  rclxub.gif
- techy/geeky design due to the hunchback, and only in black so far
    - when placed face down, camera lens touches table. prefer not to have case sweat.gif
- long volume bar not much tactile feedback, easy to mispress
- still on Froyo
+ got HTC Sense, which is one of the better custom skins = HTC Locations for cached maps without needing Internet connection
+ dual LED flash
+ front camera
Price around RM1,700 (RM1,570 AP)

Arc
- no root yet, but online comments indicate Sony might actually encourage "responsible" rooting
- physical back button reported to be too close to screen, easy to mispress
- whites on the screen might be slightly yellowish compared to other phones  ohmy.gif
- plastic back is fingerprint magnet
- no music playback controls on lock screen
- no front-facing camera
+ on Gingerbread 2.3.2 w00t
+ cool arty design, available in silver, black, blue, etc  thumbup.gif
+ thinner at 8.7mm and lighter drool.gif
+ dedicated camera button, although unfortunately small and hard to press
+ slightly higher display resolution (854 x 480)
+ better battery life (1500mAh)
> claimed "back lighted Exmor R" camera sensor, but most online reviews show marginal low-light performance only?
> Bravia display is also not a big deal according to some reviews
Price around RM1,900 (RM1,700 AP)  ohmy.gif

Anyone has any of these phones??
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Really?

Last I checked it was selling at 2,299 hmm.gif

Where can we get the IS at that price?
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IS won't be 1700 la... I think 1900 will be possible.
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guys need help here......
been headache between 2 phone:
samsung galaxy sl vs motorola defy
sgsl-- nice spec n dun mind it dun hav sup amoled n battery life nice also

defy-- love its look n its tahan_ness som, more price is cheaper(rumour that this fon is actually 1ghz but being lock to 800mhz for market tactic)..... but afraid of d defect like ear peice prob(only reason for me to be sooooooo diff to decide .....coz can ask my fren help me buy from singapore which is more more cheaper but if spoil den can't claiim warranty)

this would be my 1st android fon n love to try d game emulator like gameboid or psx4droid...... pls need you guys guide........
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Hey guys.. I decided this coming months to come, I will be getting myself a single core phone and not go for the new gen dual core phones. So among this phones which would be the better choice. Budget less than 2K. Better if Ori, but I don mind AP.

Google Nexus S, Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire HD, HTC Incredible S or Xperia Arc.
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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Apr 6 2011, 06:08 PM)
Hey guys.. I decided this coming months to come, I will be getting myself a single core phone and not go for the new gen dual core phones. So among this phones which would be the better choice. Budget less than 2K. Better if Ori, but I don mind AP.

Google Nexus S, Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire HD, HTC Incredible S or Xperia Arc.
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1st phone to knock out is SGS... too "old" ~ and its price still high~ IMO DHD < IS ~ Arc wise, nothing catch my eyes expect its superior camera ~
finally...my vote will go for nexus S, if Im not mistaken, I read a review of comparison between Atrix & NS from Irenic(one of the forumer here)... seems like NS... can on par with atrix... so wat say u biggrin.gif
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hi guys, I've been trying to decide whether to get HTC incredible s or desire (not hd). I like the hardware power of IS but the software is the problem, boot locked means no root yet.. for desire the hardware out dated but software got huge developer support.

which ones should I get? or for the price rm1600 like that got other phones to recommend?

I choose not to get desire hd cos the battery is really too small imo ^^'
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QUOTE(borninthe88 @ Apr 6 2011, 06:32 PM)
hi guys, I've been trying to decide whether to get HTC incredible s or desire (not hd). I like the hardware power of IS but the software is the problem, boot locked means no root yet.. for desire the hardware out dated but software got huge developer support.

which ones should I get? or for the price rm1600 like that got other phones to recommend?

I choose not to get desire hd cos the battery is really too small imo ^^'
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Bootlocked but soon, it'll be cracked. The fan/userbase and dev market is HUGE for HTC phones. Sooner or later they'll crack it. Desire is kinda not a good buy now because i can get an IS for RM1550.
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QUOTE(nothing_nth @ Apr 6 2011, 06:22 PM)
1st phone to knock out is SGS... too "old" ~ and its price still high~ IMO DHD < IS ~ Arc wise, nothing catch my eyes expect its superior camera ~
finally...my vote will go for nexus S, if Im not mistaken, I read a review of comparison between Atrix & NS from  Irenic(one of the forumer here)... seems like NS... can on par with atrix... so wat say u  biggrin.gif
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WOW!! But wonder how is the community support of this phone? Still trying to wonder.
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my first post..yeah! need a recommendation between these two phones. xperia arc or sgs2?
initially my budget is around RM2k. however, sgs2 had poisoned me for extra cash. since the release date and price in malaysia yet to be known.
should i just grab arc since my pocket limitation is only 2.5k deep? or is it worth waiting the mysterious sgs2?
p/s: really need an android phone right now!

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QUOTE(Registered Username @ Apr 6 2011, 09:33 PM)
my first post..yeah! need a recommendation between these two phones. xperia arc or sgs2?
initially my budget is around RM2k. however, sgs2 had poisoned me for extra cash. since the release date and price in malaysia yet to be known.
should i just grab arc since my pocket limitation is only 2.5k deep? or is it worth waiting the mysterious sgs2?
p/s: really need an android phone right now!
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Arc is quite expensive. The Bravia engine screen isn't really that big of a deal. 1.9k can get you an original HTC IS. Or 1.55k for an AP unit. Much better than the aforementioned Arc. Only upside is the extra 4 lines of pixels and the Exemor R camera. SGS 2 if you don't mind waiting.
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Arc is quite expensive. The Bravia engine screen isn't really that big of a deal. 1.9k can get you an original HTC IS. Or 1.55k for an AP unit. Much better than the aforementioned Arc. Only upside is the extra 4 lines of pixels and the Exemor R camera. SGS 2 if you don't mind waiting.
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What mathematical theorem did you use to arrive at the differential of only "4 lines of pixels"?

There is also more than 1 upside as was listed out earlier, including dedicated camera button, slimmer and generally aesthetically better etc. If anything, the Exmor R is not actually a significant upside btw by some of the reviews.

I'll all for reasoned discussion, but this is too much bias dude!! How about reading the list again.

Lastly his budget is RM2.5K so expensive is not really an issue in case of Arc or IS. I'm trying to decide between both myself.

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QUOTE(hspace @ Apr 6 2011, 09:47 PM)
What mathematical theorem did you use to arrive at the differential of only "4 lines of pixels"?

There is also more than 1 upside as was listed out earlier, including dedicated camera button, slimmer and generally aesthetically better etc. The Exmor R is not actually a significant upside btw.

I'll all for reasoned discussion, but this is too much bias dude!! How about reading the list again.

Lastly his budget is RM2.5K so expensive is not really an issue in case of Arc or IS. I'm trying to decide between both myself.
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well, HTC phones are known to be mod friendly (at least in the past, juz look at wat u can do with Dream/Magic, Hero and Desire), while SE is more abt selling the design...
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@ atria Thanks for jumping in. I'm loathe to leave HTC, as I love Sense. I mentioned that is one thing I'm concerned about - unfortunately HTC seems to changing. HTC is now locking down the bootloaders of their recent phones. Definitely would not characterize newer HTC phones as mod-friendly this time round. You said Thunderbolt etc were eventually cracked, but IS is still a question mark.

Well, Arc is a question mark also since I'm not sure if there is any root yet. But, SE in direct contrast to HTC's bootlocking, actually stated they will encourage responsible forms rooting in the near future. Sony's skin for the Arc is also minimal and the most unintrusive out there amongst the big non-Google-branded phones - by most reports, this is to ease Android updates. More proof - Arc has the 2.3.2 shipped. Seems they are more committed to updates this time round, while 2.3 for IS is promised, but not delivered yet. It took me a good while to get 2.1 for my Hero (which is officially still stuck at 2.1 btw).

So both are question marks, and so we have to leave rooting/mod-friendly out of the deciding factors if comparing IS, Arc or SGS. Have to look at other points for now, agree?

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QUOTE(hspace @ Apr 6 2011, 09:47 PM)
What mathematical theorem did you use to arrive at the differential of only "4 lines of pixels"?

There is also more than 1 upside as was listed out earlier, including dedicated camera button, slimmer and generally aesthetically better etc. If anything, the Exmor R is not actually a significant upside btw by some of the reviews.

I'll all for reasoned discussion, but this is too much bias dude!! How about reading the list again.

Lastly his budget is RM2.5K so expensive is not really an issue in case of Arc or IS. I'm trying to decide between both myself.
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Calculated wrongly. How is my post biased in any way?
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 6 2011, 09:36 PM)
Arc is quite expensive. The Bravia engine screen isn't really that big of a deal. 1.9k can get you an original HTC IS. Or 1.55k for an AP unit. Much better than the aforementioned Arc. Only upside is the extra 4 lines of pixels and the Exemor R camera. SGS 2 if you don't mind waiting.
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i say the camera can be quite a significant factor if the user's priority is picture quality.. the arc takes significantly better pictures as well as video as compared to the IS.. but the small internal memory is quite a let down.. nonetheless the arc seems to be quite an improvement from their x10..

however, the IS is a more well rounded fone, and its cheaper.. i personally prefer the IS and i quite like sense as well.. but if video and camera is a priority, i would still go for the arc..

Altho i believe that the IS is the better and more "value for ur money" buy, the arc itself is no slouch either.
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QUOTE(lost123 @ Apr 6 2011, 10:06 PM)
i say the camera can be quite a significant factor if the user's priority is picture quality.. the arc takes significantly better pictures as well as video as compared to the IS.. but the small internal memory is quite a let down.. nonetheless the arc seems to be quite an improvement from their x10..

however, the IS is a more well rounded fone, and its cheaper.. i personally prefer the IS and i quite like sense as well.. but if video and camera is a priority, i would still go for the arc.. 

Altho i believe that the IS is the better and more "value for ur money" buy, the arc itself is no slouch either.
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Some comparisons don't show "significantly" better pictures with the Arc though, even for the touted better low-light performance, so that's why still comparing. Low-light will still need flash, seems the Exmor R doesn't do that much more. Did you see any reviews there the Arc's camera is "significantly" better?

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QUOTE(lost123 @ Apr 6 2011, 10:06 PM)
i say the camera can be quite a significant factor if the user's priority is picture quality.. the arc takes significantly better pictures as well as video as compared to the IS.. but the small internal memory is quite a let down.. nonetheless the arc seems to be quite an improvement from their x10..

however, the IS is a more well rounded fone, and its cheaper.. i personally prefer the IS and i quite like sense as well.. but if video and camera is a priority, i would still go for the arc.. 

Altho i believe that the IS is the better and more "value for ur money" buy, the arc itself is no slouch either.
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QUOTE(hspace @ Apr 6 2011, 10:09 PM)
Some comparisons don't show "significantly" better pictures with the Arc though, even for the touted better low-light performance, so that's why still comparing. Low-light will still need flash, seems the Exmor R doesn't do that much more. Did you see any reviews there the Arc's camera is "significantly" better?

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IS's camera lies on the cool and smooth side from the comparison. Colours might seem a little dull to some of you. Arc's camera takes rougher pictures but has vibrant colours. The pictures are REALLY rough though.

IS's cam lies a bit to the blue side.

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Some comparisons don't show "significantly" better pictures with the Arc though, even for the touted better low-light performance, so that's why still comparing. Low-light will still need flash, seems the Exmor R doesn't do that much more. Did you see any reviews there the Arc's camera is "significantly" better?

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http://mytechnews.info/b/2011/03/review-so...arc-camera.html

check out this comparison with for the camera of the arc, iphone4 and N8..
u might interpret it differently, but the low light pictures do look better to me.. and if it is comparable to a iphone4 and a N8 camera, i would say its already better than HTC cameras.. dont get me wrong, the IS is a great fone, but HTC has never done well in the camera department.. and also, the video quality for the arc is quite good, and their sound recording quality is really great.. go check youtube if u wanna see the video quality..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0uwQS8RQs

the link above is a video sample
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@lost123: OK agreed, HTC's cameras were never their strong point. The question is - is the Arc's camera much better than the IS?

Thanks, that review is not bad. However, the IS is not compared. From what I viewed/watched:

Photos with lighting > iPhone 4 has the best pics doh.gif
- clear, sharp and nicely lighted
- Arc's seem a bit dull and muted. Quite apparent to me in the barber photo

Photos with low-light > Arc is marginally better, but not significantly

Videos with natural lighting > iPhone 4 is the most natural doh.gif
- just the right exposure
- IMO this time, Arc's seem to have too high contrast, making it seem a bit unreal
- both have visible "stuttering" when moving. Is it due to the phones' fps, or youtube?

Videos with indoor light > Arc is definitely better
- can see details better

Screen quality wise, IS has much better blacks, while Arc (probably due to the LED backlighting) has "brighter" blacks, but this also results in more detail that can be seen.

So far, conclusion from what I observed: if really want good pics for non-low light general use, go for iPhone 4 doh.gif sweat.gif But if take lots of indoor videos, go for Arc.

edit: I'm wondering if it's due to my monitor's brightness/contract setting, cos I don't want to praise the iPhone 4 too much whistling.gif

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i still have no idea whether to choose arc or sgs2..
or should i add any htc android phones into the equation?
htc seems to be my long-life dream. but will there be any newer one than incredible s which to come to malaysia? i really have no interest in is cause of its design.
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QUOTE(Registered Username @ Apr 6 2011, 11:21 PM)
i still have no idea whether to choose arc or sgs2..
or should i add any htc android phones into the equation?
htc seems to be my long-life dream. but will there be any newer one than incredible s which to come to malaysia? i really have no interest in is cause of its design.
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htc phone got 1advantage,which is got alot custom rom
for me,i suggest u choose SGS2 because it is dual core,but samsung just annouce SGS 2 will launch before June
if u can't wait for it,then go for arc
but,if u wan dual core phone,try look for lg optimus 2x or motorola atrix ~
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Already discussed, older HTC phones have a lot of custom ROMS. Newer HTC phones, not so sure yet because looks like HTC starting to lockdown the bootloaders, which they have never done before.

But 1 thing is probably easy if only deciding between Arc & SGS2 - if you can live with and like the current features of Arc, then just buy it now. It's a very capable phone.

If not, just wait then, cos it looks like SGS2 is definitely a better phone in terms of specs. It's not out yet, so no one has used it on a daily basis to give a true answer. Anyway, by then newer phones will be announced also that might be better than SGS2, then you'll be waiting again?
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no lah..
cause rumours said that sgs2 is just around the corner..so y not i just wait for a little while and get a better one.
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Ya that might be true. If in May, about 1 more month liao.

Or if this is your first Android phone, you can also buy older 2nd hand Android phone first to tide you over cool2.gif Then when you get SGS2, sell the older phone to me or other forummer biggrin.gif

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gud idea man..hahaha.
but i think i still can hold myself so i got enough money meh when the dream phone out.
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* no problem with sofware & hardware

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which better between HTC Desire HD & Incredible S???

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DHD has less ram, a smaller battery and a tft screen. IS has more ram, a larger battery, and a SLCD screen. But the IS has a weird shaped back.
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Which phone should I get Samsung GALAXY Ace or HTC Wildfire?
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Ace is better with the higher clocked processor. Wildfire has better build quality. I'll go for Ace. Value for money.


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Am using the Samsung G5 now & need to upgrade to a bigger screen android, between the Samsung ACE & Acer Liquid Metal which is a better choice?
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Ace is cheaper but it has less ram, lower resolution, and a 800mhz proc not capable of Flash. Acer Liquid Metal is better overall. Sadly has no support from XDA.

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Ace is cheaper but it has less ram, lower resolution, and a 800mhz proc not capable of Flash. Acer Liquid Metal is better overall. Sadly has no support from XDA.
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Acer can support Flash? Price wise I think not much difference. Someone in LYP mentioned can get Acer LM for rm999, cheapest ACE also rm950.
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i still have no idea whether to choose arc or sgs2..
or should i add any htc android phones into the equation?
htc seems to be my long-life dream. but will there be any newer one than incredible s which to come to malaysia? i really have no interest in is cause of its design.
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Desire S... coming soon smile.gif
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 7 2011, 10:38 AM)
DHD has less ram, a smaller battery and a tft screen. IS has more ram, a larger battery, and a SLCD screen. But the IS has a weird shaped back.
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DHD and IS has the same amount of RAM, IS has less internal storage la bro..

Btw guys, deciding btw the Nexus S and the DHD. I'm a person wan wanna customise my phone. Which is the better device?
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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Apr 7 2011, 11:40 AM)
DHD and IS has the same amount of RAM, IS has less internal storage la bro..

Btw guys, deciding btw the Nexus S and the DHD. I'm a person wan wanna customise my phone. Which is the better device?
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Nexus S... for the SAMOLED, battery life and timely update...


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QUOTE(adamw @ Apr 7 2011, 11:28 AM)
Acer can support Flash? Price wise I think not much difference. Someone in LYP mentioned can get Acer LM for rm999, cheapest ACE also rm950.
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Liquid Metal yes...

u can take a look at SE Xperia X10 as well... iirc rm1.1k?

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Nexus S will be greater than the Arc right?
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QUOTE(eppyepniu @ Apr 7 2011, 09:25 AM)
which better between HTC Desire HD & Incredible S???

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HTC incredible S

QUOTE(Loreburner @ Apr 7 2011, 09:34 AM)
Which phone should I get Samsung GALAXY Ace or HTC Wildfire?
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Samsung galaxy ace,has better processor ~

QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Apr 7 2011, 11:40 AM)
DHD and IS has the same amount of RAM, IS has less internal storage la bro..

Btw guys, deciding btw the Nexus S and the DHD. I'm a person wan wanna customise my phone. Which is the better device?
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 7 2011, 10:38 AM)
DHD has less ram, a smaller battery and a tft screen. IS has more ram, a larger battery, and a SLCD screen. But the IS has a weird shaped back.

Ace is better with the higher clocked processor. Wildfire has better build quality. I'll go for Ace. Value for money.


Added on April 7, 2011, 10:39 am
Ace is cheaper but it has less ram, lower resolution, and a 800mhz proc not capable of Flash. Acer Liquid Metal is better overall. Sadly has no support from XDA.
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RAM is the same for both phones.

The two phones are basically identical, except IS has bigger capacity battery, SLCD screen, and front camera, while the DHD has a bigger screen.
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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Apr 7 2011, 11:40 AM)
DHD and IS has the same amount of RAM, IS has less internal storage la bro..

Btw guys, deciding btw the Nexus S and the DHD. I'm a person wan wanna customise my phone. Which is the better device?
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Oh! I always thought that DHD has 512mb ram. My bad tongue.gif IMO DHD should be better. But coupled with a sub par battery life, its quite bad. If the bootloader on the IS was unlocked, i'll get that instead. Still, ROMS/Kernal mods for DHD should be aplenty.
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what do you guys think about HTC Desire HD, HTC Desire Z and HTC incredeble S? which is better and why?
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what do you guys think about HTC Desire HD, HTC Desire Z and HTC incredeble S? which is better and why?
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DZ is totally different since it has physical keyboard...

between DHD and IS, i would pick IS, due to the complaint abt battery life of DHD...
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QUOTE(purplelized @ Apr 7 2011, 02:43 PM)
what do you guys think about HTC Desire HD, HTC Desire Z and HTC incredeble S? which is better and why?
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DHD:
Pros:Huge screen 4.3", 768mb ram, 1ghz 8255, good camera, more internal memory
Cons: Bad battery life
Desire Z:
Pros:Medium-large sized screen 3.7", physical keyboard, favourable size, light.
Cons: Hinge is flimsy, 800mhz equivalent of 8255
IS:
Pros:Large screen 4", 768mb ram, 1ghz 8255, camera wise is subjective, light, Front camera
Cons: Less internal memory, weird shaped back.
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DHD:
Pros:Huge screen 4.3", 768mb ram, 1ghz 8255, good camera, more internal memory
Cons: Bad battery life
Desire Z:
Pros:Medium-large sized screen 3.7", physical keyboard, favourable size, light.
Cons: Hinge is flimsy, 800mhz equivalent of 8255
IS:
Pros:Large screen 4", 768mb ram, 1ghz 8255, camera wise is subjective, light, Front camera
Cons: Less internal memory, weird shaped back.
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Thanks, if i am going for physical keyboard is desire z worth getting?
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Incredible S got problem with :

* dead pixel at bottom right side
* auto restart

true or not???
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Thanks, if i am going for physical keyboard is desire z worth getting?
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QUOTE(eppyepniu @ Apr 7 2011, 04:07 PM)
Incredible S got problem with :

* dead pixel at bottom right side
* auto restart

true or not???
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that, should be qn directed to the IS thread instead...
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I'm new and want to ask here..
which one better between HTC Desire and Samsung Galaxy Ace ?

as i know, htc desire no lasting and more use battery. (makan beteri) . Isn't true ?

plz help me to choose either these two smartphone.

http://www.compare-cellphones.org/Samsung-...e-vs-HTC-Desire
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eat battery or not depends on a lot of things... like the apps that u run, the signal strength, juz to name 2...

between the 2 it's definitely Desire...
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QUOTE(thermaltake5 @ Apr 7 2011, 07:00 PM)
I'm new and want to ask here..
which one better between HTC Desire and Samsung Galaxy Ace ?

as i know, htc desire no lasting and more use battery. (makan beteri) . Isn't true ?

plz help me to choose either these two smartphone.

http://www.compare-cellphones.org/Samsung-...e-vs-HTC-Desire
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All smartphones makan battery bro.

BTW, both bukan from same price range.

Desire (1.4k)
Galaxy Ace( RM 900)


BTW, how much do you want to spend bro?

Can recommend you better stuff with the budget.
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QUOTE(41LY45 @ Apr 7 2011, 07:38 PM)
All smartphones makan battery bro.

BTW, both bukan from same price range.

Desire (1.4k)
Galaxy Ace( RM 900)
BTW, how much do you want to spend bro?

Can recommend you better stuff with the budget.
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budget around RM1k..
skrng tgh dilema nk beli desire 2nd (rm1050) or samsung galaxy ace.. rclxub.gif
btw, i'm newbie lg dlm android... baru nk bljar2
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please..help me..im going to buy a phone this upcoming pc fair(next week) but still dunno which 1 to buy!!

brand: any
price: around rm1k
feature: android os, flash support, gps, 3g, wifi, fast cpu
*i will use this phone mainly for internet surfing
*i like customization/modding..

extra qstion: is there any android os phone that has Dual-sim card feature?
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whaat if ace vs x10?
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QUOTE(carepayer @ Apr 7 2011, 08:34 PM)
whaat if ace vs x10?
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ya..i also want to know..
let's make it Samsung galaxy ace vs SE Xperia x10 vs HTC wildfire vs Acer Liquid Metal vs LG Optimus One...
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whaat if ace vs x10?
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x10,confirmed got 2.3 gingerbread update
and has better processor and camera ~

QUOTE(jakuraz @ Apr 7 2011, 09:01 PM)
ya..i also want to know..
let's make it Samsung galaxy ace vs SE Xperia x10 vs HTC wildfire vs Acer Liquid Metal vs LG Optimus One...
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replied u at mobile and pda section,take a look ~

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QUOTE(astria @ Apr 7 2011, 01:32 PM)
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QUOTE(thermaltake5 @ Apr 7 2011, 07:49 PM)
budget around RM1k..
skrng tgh dilema nk beli desire 2nd (rm1050) or samsung galaxy ace..  rclxub.gif
btw, i'm newbie lg dlm android... baru nk bljar2
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Xperia X 10 good la. Desire it's very good if you like customizing your phone.

QUOTE(jakuraz @ Apr 7 2011, 08:06 PM)
please..help me..im going to buy a phone this upcoming pc fair(next week) but still dunno which 1 to buy!!

brand: any
price: around rm1k
feature: android os, flash support, gps, 3g, wifi, fast cpu
*i will use this phone mainly for internet surfing
*i like customization/modding..

extra qstion: is there any android os phone that has Dual-sim card feature?
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1. Samsung Galaxy Ace, Used desire, Xperia X 10 (less modding though)

QUOTE(carepayer @ Apr 7 2011, 08:34 PM)
whaat if ace vs x10?
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X10 IMO. whistling.gif
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htc desire hd or htc incredible s?
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ya..i also want to know..
let's make it Samsung galaxy ace vs SE Xperia x10 vs HTC wildfire vs Acer Liquid Metal vs LG Optimus One...
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X10

Ace, Wildfire and Optimus One all using MSM7227 which dun support Flash...

both X10 and Liquid Metal are using Snapdragon, but Liquid Metal has zero 3rd party support and Acer dun seem so committed to upgrading... X10 on the other hand, has juz got it's bootloader cracked, has pretty nice support in XDA forum, and will receive Gingerbread in abt 2mths time...

QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Apr 7 2011, 10:04 PM)
Screen wise.. but I'm leaning towards Nexus S cuz I love customising my phone
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Arc is 4.2" while Nexus S is 4"...

QUOTE(win20679 @ Apr 8 2011, 02:14 AM)
htc desire hd or htc incredible s?
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IS for longer battery life...
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guys, just a quick question
between galaxy ace and liquid metal, which one eh

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IS for me nod.gif
spec almost the same...... HD bigger screen but without front camera..... consume more batt life as well

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how about optimus 2x what pros and cons ori rrp is 1899 so is it a good choice?
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Desire HD: Same proc as Incredible S, Worse battery life and build quality, camera not as good as Incredible S.
Incredible S: Same proc as Desire HD, S-LCD screen, Better battery life and build quality, camera is the best of the 3, has front camera, but has a locked bootloader(or so i heard)
SGS: Best GPU to date, S-AMOLED screen, has front camera, plenty of roms, but has gps and lag issues. Can be fixed though.
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how about optimus 2x what pros and cons ori rrp is 1899 so is it a good choice?
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Wouldn't recommend it because of the lack of roms. But IIRC it has a few issues.
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QUOTE(.:Toaster:. @ Apr 8 2011, 09:02 AM)
guys, just a quick question
between galaxy ace and liquid metal, which one eh
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Ace has a better camera and HAS custom rom support from XDA
Liquid Metal has better build quality, a better proc(800mhz Q7230Desire Z processor), Nicer screen, higher reso, but ABSOLUTELY NO support from XDA. Also more value for money.
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QUOTE(.:Toaster:. @ Apr 8 2011, 10:02 AM)
guys, just a quick question
between galaxy ace and liquid metal, which one eh
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Ace = Muka cantek tapi Hati spoiled ..
Liguid metal= Muka x cantek tapi hati cantek la jugak..

So the best is cari yg dua2 cantek then baru puas hati loo..hehe
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QUOTE(.:Toaster:. @ Apr 8 2011, 09:02 AM)
guys, just a quick question
between galaxy ace and liquid metal, which one eh
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for me i suggest u go for xperia x10

QUOTE(Riddhy @ Apr 8 2011, 11:34 AM)
how about optimus 2x what pros and cons ori rrp is 1899 so is it a good choice?
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if it really sell below RM2k,sure is a good choice which got dual core

QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 8 2011, 07:16 PM)
Ace has a better camera and HAS custom rom support from XDA
Liquid Metal has better build quality, a better proc(800mhz Q7230Desire Z processor), Nicer screen, higher reso, but ABSOLUTELY NO support from XDA. Also more value for money.
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how come i can't search ace custom rom at xda forum ??

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x10 oke tapi besar nak mampos
how about x10 battery life?

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 8 2011, 09:45 PM)
for me i suggest u go for xperia x10
if it really sell below RM2k,sure is a good choice which got dual core
how come i can't search ace custom rom at xda forum ??
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I don't think there are any yet since its quite new. But there will be. ALM doesn't even have its own section.
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Incredible S vs SE Arc? Almost same price AP set.
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Apr 9 2011, 09:47 AM)
Incredible S vs SE Arc?  Almost same price AP set.
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I would say IS. Bootloader can be unlocked by the community real quick, it has a front facing camera and most of all its HTC!! They receive faster OS updates
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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Apr 9 2011, 11:32 AM)
I would say IS. Bootloader can be unlocked by the community real quick, it has a front facing camera and most of all its HTC!! They have OS updates
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Fix'd. IS for me too.
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QUOTE(41LY45 @ Apr 7 2011, 07:38 PM)
All smartphones makan battery bro.

BTW, both bukan from same price range.

Desire (1.4k)
Galaxy Ace( RM 900)
BTW, how much do you want to spend bro?

Can recommend you better stuff with the budget.
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hmm mind i ask where can i get galaxy ace with rm900 drool.gif
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Seng Heng selling galaxy ace RM950 with 3 year warranty

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QUOTE(HongTat @ Apr 9 2011, 12:25 PM)
Seng Heng selling galaxy ace RM950 with 3 year warranty
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do they provide installment? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(d3smoond @ Apr 9 2011, 12:26 PM)
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 8 2011, 02:38 PM)
Wouldn't recommend it because of the lack of roms. But IIRC it has a few issues.
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Soon mang, soon.

Anyway i'll prefer the Vanilla T-Mobile version of it. drool.gif drool.gif

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x10 oke tapi besar nak mampos
how about x10 battery life?
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QUOTE(41LY45 @ Apr 10 2011, 03:41 AM)
Soon mang, soon.

Anyway i'll prefer the Vanilla T-Mobile version of it.  drool.gif  drool.gif
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4" kira just nice for me man.  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 10 2011, 10:24 AM)
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I want to sell off my Wildfire and get something decent, something that doesn't lag too much. Wildfire failed me for even texting have some problem. Budget would be <RM1k
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QUOTE(clon12 @ Apr 10 2011, 11:11 AM)
I want to sell off my Wildfire and get something decent, something that doesn't lag too much. Wildfire failed me for even texting have some problem. Budget would be <RM1k
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Galaxy Ace IMO.
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Pardon me,

1. Brand. Any.
2. Budget. <1k
3. Specs. As high as possible
4. What you need in the phone : nothing much, preferable lagless with smooth gameplay for normal games.


Added on April 10, 2011, 11:17 amBefore this I have been eyeing on SGA but is it durable? The cover is plastic-like right?

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QUOTE(clon12 @ Apr 10 2011, 11:11 AM)
I want to sell off my Wildfire and get something decent, something that doesn't lag too much. Wildfire failed me for even texting have some problem. Budget would be <RM1k
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Ace is decent but can't really live up to a few of our expectations. Acer Liquid Metal for me. And to Clon, if your budget can be stretched a little, i suggest Acer Liquid Metal too. 512mb ram on Q7230, which is Desire Z's processor. Also has stock froyo. Has no custom rom support though. Only minimal support from other sources. And the camera is quite sub par. Screen is your usual 800x480. If the camera matters a lot to you, stick with the Ace. ALM has higher build quality too. And this recommendation is directed to both of you.
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I see...but as I could recall, SGA only have 278MB of RAM right?
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QUOTE(clon12 @ Apr 10 2011, 11:30 AM)
I see...but as I could recall, SGA only have 278MB of RAM right?
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Aye, IIRC.

It's either the SGA or the Liquid Metal.
Or the maybe the Xperia x10
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I like the SGA build, but no the plastic cover. But probably I will go for SGA. Thanks.
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QUOTE(clon12 @ Apr 10 2011, 11:41 AM)
I like the SGA build, but no the plastic cover. But probably I will go for SGA. Thanks.
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Haha. The ALM has a Aluminium back cover. Nicer feeling IMO compared to plastic.
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SGA has no custom roms so far?
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QUOTE(clon12 @ Apr 10 2011, 12:06 PM)
SGA has no custom roms so far?
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Anyone can help me smile.gif ~~

First of all, I'm a very emotional user. Not as in I throw my phone la. My phone is my baby to me. But most of the time ... I will only .... only..

- Leave it at one side when I'm at home. At my parent home, I leave it in my room. I don't bring it out to the living room or whatsoever .. But I will go into my room from time to time to check whether there's miss call or msg...

- When I'm at my own apartment, worst, I don't touch it at all. I only touch my phone when I can't fall asleep and start playing game / or do web browsing when I couldn't sleep.

Previously, my hand so gatal, I went and bought an Atrix sold if off within 3 days because... I didn't even bother to use it.

Then I bought a Samsung Tab. I didn't like it too. So I give my boiboi use. Now what phone should I get...?

I don't like to flash custom roms. I just use it as it is.

But I do play games, not hard core. The games I play are usually... Chess and those board games that makes me think.

I email a lot - due to my work... So web browsing and checking email is a must to me.

I'm lazy to... keep playing with the phone and found new things... Usually... my bf will use and tell me what's special with the phone ._.''

Then I'll go "ahhhh so cool".

Any suggestion? Thanks!

I'm thinking of the S2, but I'm afraid once I buy it, I don't use it too tongue.gif

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Is it advisable to get SGS now?
8GB version how much for AP & ORI?

Also, 8GB with additional memory slot right? biggrin.gif


Added on April 10, 2011, 3:00 pm
QUOTE(AnnaHui @ Apr 10 2011, 02:49 PM)
Anyone can help me smile.gif ~~

First of all, I'm a very emotional user. Not as in I throw my phone la. My phone is my baby to me. But most of the time ... I will only .... only..

- Leave it at one side when I'm at home. At my parent home, I leave it in my room. I don't bring it out to the living room or whatsoever .. But I will go into my room from time to time to check whether there's miss call or msg...

- When I'm at my own apartment, worst, I don't touch it at all. I only touch my phone when I can't fall asleep and start playing game / or do web browsing when I couldn't sleep.

Previously, my hand so gatal, I went and bought an Atrix sold if off within 3 days because... I didn't even bother to use it.

Then I bought a Samsung Tab. I didn't like it too. So I give my boiboi use. Now what phone should I get...?

I don't like to flash custom roms. I just use it as it is.

But I do play games, not hard core. The games I play are usually... Chess and those board games that makes me think.

I email a lot - due to my work... So web browsing and checking email is a must to me.

I'm lazy to... keep playing with the phone and found new things... Usually... my bf will use and tell me what's special with the phone ._.''

Then I'll go "ahhhh so cool".

Any suggestion? Thanks!

I'm thinking of the S2, but I'm afraid once I buy it, I don't use it too tongue.gif

Thanks!
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Just buy iPhone 4. LOL


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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 10 2011, 01:42 PM)
Not sure. Try checking at XDA.
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i check already,don't have
thread for SGA also don't have
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QUOTE(Chyan @ Apr 10 2011, 02:57 PM)
Is it advisable to get SGS now?
8GB version how much for AP & ORI?

Also, 8GB with additional memory slot right? biggrin.gif


Added on April 10, 2011, 3:00 pm

Just buy iPhone 4. LOL
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which one better between SGS & IS???

no problem with hardware & software!!!
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Does anyone know when HTC desire S will launch in Malaysia?the price of desire is dropping a lot.

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QUOTE(AnnaHui @ Apr 10 2011, 03:44 PM)
And i forgot to say. I phone i hate it to the max. smile.gif ~ Never will buy Ipong. My house already got 2 3gs, and 1 ipong 4. Tak suka! sweat.gif
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based on your description, maybe a HTC Desire S

works fine right out of the box, have all the basic functions
smooth OS even without dual core cpu,
stock with Sense UI, functional and pretty UI
plus aluminium unibody, good build quality helps take a beating

also HTC releases OS updates consistently
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my budget is rm1000-rm1500

what i want is android 2.3 if possible

can record HD video as i like to make short movie

big screen if possible and clear like AMOLED or something like that

right now my choices are XPERIA NEO and XPERIA ARC

is there any phone out there can suit in my specs?
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hi guy how about the samsung galaxy ace ? is it good this phone ? smile.gif
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1. htc
2. 1k
3. android


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QUOTE(Lukman Zah @ Apr 10 2011, 07:28 PM)
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3. android
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Old wildfire.. not a good phone. With that money, samsung Galaxy Ace better
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which 1 would u guys choose?? SE X10 or SE X8??
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which 1 would u guys choose?? SE X10 or SE X8??
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x10,confirmed got 2.3 update
x8 no more update ~
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which 1 would u guys choose?? SE X10 or SE X8??
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X10 easily
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QUOTE(eppyepniu @ Apr 10 2011, 04:14 PM)
which one better between SGS & IS???

no problem with hardware & software!!!
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SGS has a better GPU and screen while IS has a better processor and higher ram. Build quality wise IS wins too. But bootloader is currently locked.
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LG Optimus 2X or Motorola Atrix or ARC or HTC IS?
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Hmm..SGA or 2nd hand Desire?
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LG Optimus 2X or Motorola Atrix or ARC or HTC IS?
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u wan dual core or single core ?
btw,ur budget is ?
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 10 2011, 09:48 PM)
u wan dual core or single core ?
btw,ur budget is ?
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What's the advantage of having dual core? budget RM2000
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What's the advantage of having dual core? budget RM2000
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err,advantage of dual core is can do more things without lag and other else(hard to explain)
just like computer,higher core higher performance
since ur budget like this,if u wan single core then go for SE xperia arc,dual core then go lg optimus 2x
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Apr 10 2011, 06:15 PM)
based on your description, maybe a HTC Desire S

works fine right out of the box, have all the basic functions
smooth OS even without dual core cpu,
stock with Sense UI, functional and pretty UI
plus aluminium unibody, good build quality helps take a beating

also HTC releases OS updates consistently
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But, based on her post.. She doesn't want a phone with all those high end specs.. She just need a smartphone for work with slight gaming. Maybe BB (non-Android) is good for her.
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QUOTE(clon12 @ Apr 10 2011, 09:07 PM)
Hmm..SGA or 2nd hand Desire?
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WoW o.O so games are siding more to SGA? 1GHz VS 800Mhz wor.
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QUOTE(clon12 @ Apr 10 2011, 10:41 PM)
WoW o.O so games are siding more to SGA? 1GHz VS 800Mhz wor.
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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Apr 10 2011, 10:32 PM)
But, based on her post.. She doesn't want a phone with all those high end specs.. She just need a smartphone for work with slight gaming. Maybe BB (non-Android) is good for her.
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high end IMO is at least dual core cpu + 1gb / 512mb ram by today's standard,
which Desire S doesn't have, its still the 2nd Gen Snapdragon,
good enough to make the phone snappy and smooth, but not for dual core optimized games,
at best the Desire S is just a very good mid end.

BB is not an Android phone, and this is a Android phone recommendation thread.
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is xperia x10 good?
i like sensitive screen, a good camera, a good Hd video recording, no lagging, no rebooting problems, all works smooth, good ram, good processor.

any comment, sifu?
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QUOTE(41LY45 @ Apr 10 2011, 10:52 PM)
go grab the desire, you misunderstood me there.  tongue.gif
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ht incredible s and sony xperia arc , which one is better?
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Play means customising your phone etc... not games tongue.gif I would say Desire too...
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If games? Desire too?
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sga and desire not for gamers... tongue.gif ..but overall desire ..btw desire n sga not in same level..not fair to compare...hehe
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QUOTE(clon12 @ Apr 11 2011, 04:10 PM)
If games? Desire too?
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Yes. Because they're both from the same gen, sharing the same GPU. Adreno 200. Since the proc in SGA is factory overclocked, nonetheless its still overclocked and i don't like that. Besides, the camera and build quality of the Desire is better. Anyways have a look at the Desire S review i posted a while ago.
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QUOTE(moko82 @ Apr 11 2011, 04:07 PM)
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Apr 10 2011, 11:53 PM)
high end IMO is at least dual core cpu + 1gb / 512mb ram by today's standard,
which Desire S doesn't have, its still the 2nd Gen Snapdragon,
good enough to make the phone snappy and smooth, but not for dual core optimized games,
at best the Desire S is just a very good mid end.

BB is not an Android phone, and this is a Android phone recommendation thread.
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Well, it is quite high end atm.. I know BB is not Android, I was just saying.
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HTC Desire Z.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 11 2011, 04:41 PM)
Yes. Because they're both from the same gen, sharing the same GPU. Adreno 200. Since the proc in SGA is factory overclocked, nonetheless its still overclocked and i don't like that. Besides, the camera and build quality of the Desire is better. Anyways have a look at the Desire S review i posted a while ago.
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QUOTE(arthas @ Apr 11 2011, 05:15 PM)
incredible s.... unless u r into camera & rooting?
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QUOTE(clon12 @ Apr 12 2011, 06:53 AM)
Desire S is good, but overdo my budget. AP sets are around 1.6k right? sad.gif
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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Apr 11 2011, 09:41 PM)
Well, it is quite high end atm.. I know BB is not Android, I was just saying.
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I'm quite new to Samsung phones.
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Does it has good resale value?

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Acer Liquid Metal.... best dari CSL Spice M310....
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android phone below rm1500.
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My current phone is dying (Motorola v3x)...
So i need to find other, since i'm going to buy a new one, so i plan to try an Android phone:

Guys please advice:

1. Brand - Any
2. Budget. (the most low price)
3. Specs. (Using android, got good camera pixel, got secondary camera (front), can do video call)

my main activity was call, message, and camera...

regards..

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QUOTE(breaker84 @ Apr 12 2011, 02:56 PM)
My current phone is dying (Motorola v3x)...
So i need to find other, since i'm going to buy a new one, so i plan to try an Android phone:

Guys please advice:

1. Brand - Any
2. Budget. (the most low price)
3. Specs. (Using android, got good camera pixel, got secondary camera (front), can do video call)

my main activity was call, message, and camera...

regards..
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try SGS ??
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 12 2011, 03:25 PM)
try SGS ??
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damn....
did you read my mind??? laugh.gif

i'm doing some research about it...
shah alam got huh this unit??
i mean got stock??
i read some one buy it at seng heng with 3 years waranty....
does other shop give that too?? (the warranty)


Added on April 12, 2011, 3:38 pmoh wait...
it doesn't have secondary camera huh??

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QUOTE(breaker84 @ Apr 12 2011, 03:36 PM)
damn....
did you read my mind??? laugh.gif

i'm doing some research about it...
shah alam got huh this unit??
i mean got stock??
i read some one buy it at seng heng with 3 years waranty....
does other shop give that too?? (the warranty)


Added on April 12, 2011, 3:38 pmoh wait...
it doesn't have secondary camera huh??
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other shop i not sure,max only can extend to 2year warranty(correct me if im wrong)
yes,sen heng got 3years warranty,but the price come with 1st time SGS sell,which around RM2k
furthermore,SGS got secondary camera which allow u to do video call
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 12 2011, 03:46 PM)
other shop i not sure,max only can extend to 2year warranty(correct me if im wrong)
yes,sen heng got 3years warranty,but the price come with 1st time SGS sell,which around RM2k
furthermore,SGS got secondary camera which allow u to do video call
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QUOTE(Chubby girl @ Mar 30 2011, 08:35 PM)
hey guys,
i just bought my ori white SGA this afternoon!!!  rclxm9.gif
haha~ super love it!!! a very nice phone!!!
i bought it at Sen Heng at RM949 with 3 years warranty!!!
so so so nice!!!  thumbup.gif
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btw the phone SGS i this one right??? --> http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_ace_s5830-3724.php
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galaxy ace is nice but the specs did not convince me..
you should check on LG too.. their android support is better than samsung
they even release official gingerbread earlier than samsung biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(breaker84 @ Apr 12 2011, 03:50 PM)
but this one..
btw the phone SGS i this one right??? --> http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_ace_s5830-3724.php
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this is SGA, Galaxy Ace

the one Xeactor mentioned is SGS, Galaxy S

both are different phone
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but this one..
btw the phone SGS i this one right??? --> http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_ace_s5830-3724.php
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SGS is samsung galaxy S,the link u give me is Ace
different phone ~
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QUOTE(antukecik09 @ Apr 12 2011, 03:53 PM)
galaxy ace is nice but the specs did not convince me..
you should check on LG too.. their android support is better than samsung
they even release official gingerbread earlier than samsung biggrin.gif
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Any that you to recommended??

QUOTE(phantomash @ Apr 12 2011, 03:55 PM)
this is SGA, Galaxy Ace
the one Xeactor mentioned is SGS, Galaxy S
both are different phone
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 12 2011, 03:57 PM)
SGS is samsung galaxy S,the link u give me is Ace
different phone ~
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oh wrong item....
let me google it 1st...


Added on April 12, 2011, 4:07 pmwoh.....
RM2k.....!!!!
my 3 month salary with minimum eat, then can afford one....

Galaxy Ace not good huh???

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QUOTE(breaker84 @ Apr 12 2011, 04:04 PM)
LG....
Any that you to recommended??
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
oh wrong item....
let me google it 1st...


Added on April 12, 2011, 4:07 pmwoh.....
RM2k.....!!!!
my 3 month salary with minimum eat, then can afford one....

Galaxy Ace not good huh???
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Ace is good for its price, but there's no front facing camera

Galaxy S 8GB AP set cheapest can get for RM1.4k+, if 2nd hand maybe near 1.2k~1.1k
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Apr 12 2011, 04:26 PM)
Ace is good for its price, but there's no front facing camera
Galaxy S 8GB AP set cheapest can get for RM1.4k+, if 2nd hand maybe near 1.2k~1.1k
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thanks for the info....
my budget was too tight...
RM1k only...max..
i'll put SGA as one of my option...
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QUOTE(Lukman Zah @ Apr 12 2011, 02:49 PM)
android phone below rm1500.
touch screen is a must.
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HTC Desire Z.
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thanks for the info....
my budget was too tight...
RM1k only...max..
i'll put SGA as one of my option...
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QUOTE(breaker84 @ Apr 12 2011, 04:47 PM)
thanks for the info....
my budget was too tight...
RM1k only...max..
i'll put SGA as one of my option...
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Any specific requirements or so? And to the 1.5k budget, you can get an Incredible S at RM1550. A better deal than most of the current available phones. Or You can go for Captivate at RM14xx with a better GPU. Has inferior build quality, less ram. The camera on the IS is also better. And the Captivate's camera has no flash.
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Desire HD and Incredible S? budget shouldn't be a problem. tempted with Desire HD screen size,face recognition camera..but Incredible S-better battery perfomance and front camera..need help. sad.gif sad.gif
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QUOTE(murv90 @ Apr 12 2011, 07:00 PM)
anything else? do include if counting the physical keyboard out.
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Motorola Milestone 2 ( 1.6k)


SGS ( no keyboard)
Desire S (1.6k AP) (no keyboard)
Incredible S (no keyboard)
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Hi all , i readily to get new phone , but stil dilemma of picking which phone - Samsung Galaxy Ace or HTC Wildfire S.

Of cos price do matters.
in terms of spec , SGA is better n cheaper . bt one issue is will Samsung phone lack of support in updates or laggy ?
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QUOTE(Steviek7 @ Apr 13 2011, 03:01 PM)
Hi all ,  i readily to get new phone , but stil dilemma of picking which phone - Samsung Galaxy Ace or HTC Wildfire S.

Of cos price do matters.
in terms of spec , SGA is better n cheaper . bt one issue is will Samsung phone lack of support in updates or laggy ?
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Ace is better as u say
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support ? so far i know SGA just got update ~
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Guys, I need some help here cos a friend of mine wants a htc phone around rm5++.. Suggestions? It might not be an android phone though.
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can motorola defy get upgrade?
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Guys, I need some help here cos a friend of mine wants a htc phone around rm5++.. Suggestions? It might not be an android phone though.
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QUOTE(lowyard @ Apr 13 2011, 03:52 PM)
Guys, I need some help here cos a friend of mine wants a htc phone around rm5++.. Suggestions? It might not be an android phone though.
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Impossible to find one. Maybe a WinMo one.
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hi guys..need ur assist here..currently dont quite know what phone to choose; SGS vs HTC IS vs SE Arc vs HTC Desire S vs anything u name it..budget is not an issue..touchscreen, front camera (video call), good quality call..which phone is more playful? thanks..

*forgot to mention, web browsing and email is a must!

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QUOTE(emmo_madrid @ Apr 13 2011, 09:03 PM)
hi guys..need ur assist here..currently dont quite know what phone to choose; SGS vs HTC IS vs SE Arc..budget is not an issue..touchscreen, front camera (video call), good quality call..which phone is more playful? thanks..
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if front camera is a must then SE Arc is out, so its SGS vs IS, and IMO IS is better

otherwise, if you can sacrifice front camera, then IMO Arc is better

web browsing & email is piece of cake for either of them laugh.gif

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QUOTE(phantomash @ Apr 13 2011, 09:07 PM)
if front camera is a must then SE Arc is out, so its SGS vs IS, and IMO IS is better

otherwise, if you can sacrifice front camera, then IMO Arc is better

web browsing & email is piece of cake for either of them laugh.gif
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what about Desire S? which one is superior DS vs IS?
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anyone help me plis,,should i go 4 DHD or IS?
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what about Desire S? which one is superior DS vs IS?
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IS is better in terms of camera, both front and back camera has better quality compared to DS
also, it has slightly larger screen compared to DS

DS is better in terms of built material, unibody aluminum design
which gives a sturdier back cover, and also a more premium feel compared to IS

overall it depends on user's preference here, both are equally as good IMO

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anyone help me plis,,should i go 4 DHD or IS?
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OR.. you might want to wait for HTC Sensation, its the latest flagship from HTC, which is coming out in 2~3months

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hi guys, whats the pros arc x12 phone compare to desireHD.? real user feedback..
& yes i ve been googling..need more opinion
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hi guys, whats the pros arc x12 phone compare to desireHD.? real user feedback..
& yes i ve been googling..need more opinion
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spoiler below is ur answer

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


look the below link for their comparison
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPho...9&idPhone2=3468

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However in my opinion if you guys are looking for new android phone, better try to invest on super amoled display like the galaxy s. But once you're in love with it, there's less likely that you'll be able to tolerate any other screen beside super amoled. To me, besides the physical of the phone that contributes to its looks, its the screen that made it more merrily to use and to look at.
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Hey all android sifus i want to try android so which phone you guys suggest?

1. Brand. (either htc, or samsung or any other suggestion)
2. Budget. (1k-1.2k) RM

Any nice recommendation? Thanks in advance.

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Try sony ericsson xperia x10.. Soon the phone will get the gingerbread update.
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Hey all android sifus i want to try android so which phone you guys suggest?

1. Brand. (either htc, or samsung or any other suggestion)
2. Budget. (1k-1.2k) RM

Any nice recommendation? Thanks in advance.
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SE Xperia,acer liquid metal and Samsung Galaxy SL
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help me pick one, desire hd or incredible s
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help me pick one, desire hd or incredible s
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Apr 13 2011, 09:23 PM)
if you like to tinker with your phone (root, flashing rom, etc) then DHD, otherwise take IS

OR.. you might want to wait for HTC Sensation, its the latest flagship from HTC, which is coming out in 2~3months
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QUOTE(vista enthusiasist @ Apr 13 2011, 11:15 PM)
Hey all android sifus i want to try android so which phone you guys suggest?

1. Brand. (either htc, or samsung or any other suggestion)
2. Budget. (1k-1.2k) RM

Any nice recommendation? Thanks in advance.
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Samsung Galaxy Ace RM950
Acer Liquid Metal RM1150
HTC Wildfire RM1050

The Samsung has a better camera, an overclocked(800mhz) but not Flash 10.1 capable proc, and sub par build quality
The Acer has a sub par camera, a Q7230(Desire Z's processor) and it is flash 10.1 capable, has above average build quality
HTC Wildfire has a good camera, a 600mhz processor sad.gif, and average build quality.

Wildfire is also supported by CM7. Acer Liquid Metal has no form of custom rom support all. Ace should have support sometime soon.

QUOTE(lowyard @ Apr 13 2011, 11:20 PM)
Try sony ericsson xperia x10.. Soon the phone will get the gingerbread update.
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Yes but the build quality and UI is a reason why i wouldn't recommend it.

QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 14 2011, 07:59 AM)
help me pick one, desire hd or incredible s
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Desire HD if you need to flash and/or likes tweaking. Incredible S for the higher MAH battery.
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Desire HD if you need to flash and/or likes tweaking. Incredible S for the higher MAH battery.
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Apr 14 2011, 08:43 AM)
if you like to tinker with your phone (root, flashing rom, etc) then DHD, otherwise take IS

OR.. you might want to wait for HTC Sensation, its the latest flagship from HTC, which is coming out in 2~3months
thanks. thats what i really want actually. planning to buy 1st android phone just to take advantage in learning how to customize.. any othe good phone/tablet that u can recommend, desire hd is on the list for now..

how about samsung/lg phone?

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QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 14 2011, 09:08 AM)
thanks. thats what i really want actually. planning to buy 1st android phone just to take advantage in learning how to customize.. any othe good phone/tablet that u can recommend, desire hd is on the list for now..

how about samsung/lg phone?
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LG Optimus 2x is good i guess. The RRP is RM1899. If you're a first timer, i assume you wouldn't go too far anyway. I suggest you go for a lower-mid end device and try out Android first. If you like it, you can sell it off then get the Incredible S or the Optimus 2x. If you don't, you can move on to iPhones or back to Symbian smartphones.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 14 2011, 09:57 AM)
LG Optimus 2x is good i guess. The RRP is RM1899. If you're a first timer, i assume you wouldn't go too far anyway. I suggest you go for a lower-mid end device and try out Android first. If you like it, you can sell it off then get the Incredible S or the Optimus 2x. If you don't, you can move on to iPhones or back to Symbian smartphones.
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yea. i already have symbian phone and iphone. so its time to try something new (for me at least).
if i get incredible s, i need to wait for new development cus as far as i know rooting is not yet available. thats why i plan to buy android phone that easy to customize/tweak/etc.. i don't use it as a phone/camera so it all depend on the software/os itself. nod.gif
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QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 14 2011, 10:13 AM)
yea. i already have symbian phone and iphone. so its time to try something new (for me at least).
if i get incredible s, i need to wait for new development cus as far as i know rooting is not yet available. thats why i plan to buy android phone that easy to customize/tweak/etc.. i don't use it as a phone/camera so it all depend on the software/os itself. nod.gif
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I see. If so, you would probably want the luxury of freely customizing everything. The Incredible S's bootloader is probably gonna be cracked very soon. HTC phones tend to have more user/fanbase compared to other phones. Try following a thread on XDA. You can also wait for HTC Sensation. The full preview can be viewed on engadget.


Added on April 14, 2011, 10:20 amAlso, try not to go with SE's phones. They have a laggier UI. If its not Stock Froyo or a good UI, don't buy it. No matter how godly the specs of the phones are, it'll still bottleneck the whole thing.

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1. Brand - Any
2. Budget - max 1.8k
3. Specs - Froyo & above / Screen min 3.7" & above, prefer SAMOLED(is SC-LCD quality on par with it? i saw Nexus S from Maxis...but never seen any SAMOLED before, so i cant compare)
4. What you need in the phone - Most probably will flash custom rom XD

Basically was eye on SGS & Nexus S, but there's some common problem with SGS (lag etc). but well, which phone doesn't have pros & cons?
So guys, i need some advise, out of this 2 model what else you'll recommend? ofcause with valid points to support also =) thx alot
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QUOTE(mike86 @ Apr 14 2011, 10:47 AM)
1. Brand - Any
2. Budget - max 1.8k
3. Specs - Froyo & above / Screen min 3.7" & above, prefer SAMOLED(is SC-LCD quality on par with it? i saw Nexus S from Maxis...but never seen any SAMOLED before, so i cant compare)
4. What you need in the phone - Most probably will flash custom rom XD

Basically was eye on SGS & Nexus S, but there's some common problem with SGS (lag etc). but well, which phone doesn't have pros & cons?
So guys, i need some advise, out of this 2 model what else you'll recommend? ofcause with valid points to support also =) thx alot
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personally I'd take Nexus S

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1) Any brand
2) Below 1.2k
3) The best for that range of price
4)I'm not sure


So i'm using a symbian now , and i was thinking of switching to an android . Would you guys help me with it ? It's my first time buying an android .
I want and overall good android phone with that rnge of price , thanks .
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1. Brand - Any
2. Budget - max 1.8k
3. Specs - Froyo & above / Screen min 3.7" & above, prefer SAMOLED(is SC-LCD quality on par with it? i saw Nexus S from Maxis...but never seen any SAMOLED before, so i cant compare)
4. What you need in the phone - Most probably will flash custom rom XD

Basically was eye on SGS & Nexus S, but there's some common problem with SGS (lag etc). but well, which phone doesn't have pros & cons?
So guys, i need some advise, out of this 2 model what else you'll recommend? ofcause with valid points to support also =) thx alot
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go for Nexus S,if u dun wan Amoled screen,can go for LG Optimus 2x
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1) Any brand
2) Below 1.2k
3) The best for that range of price
4)I'm not sure
So i'm using a symbian now , and i was thinking of switching to an android . Would you guys help me with it ? It's my first time buying an android .
I want and overall good android phone with that rnge of price , thanks .
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acer liquid metal(top up ur budget to around RM1.3k) or SE xperia x10
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acer liquid metal(top up ur budget to around RM1.3k) or SE xperia x10
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I thought Liquid metal is around RM1160 now ? and x10 is running on 2.1 , isn't that outdated compared to liquid metal which is running on 2.2 froyo ?


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acer liquid metal(top up ur budget to around RM1.3k) or SE xperia x10
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I thought Liquid metal is around RM1160 now ? and x10 is running on 2.1 , isn't that outdated compared to liquid metal which is running on 2.2 froyo ?

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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 14 2011, 10:18 AM)
I see. If so, you would probably want the luxury of freely customizing everything. The Incredible S's bootloader is probably gonna be cracked very soon. HTC phones tend to have more user/fanbase compared to other phones. Try following a thread on XDA. You can also wait for HTC Sensation. The full preview can be viewed on engadget.


Added on April 14, 2011, 10:20 amAlso, try not to go with SE's phones. They have a laggier UI. If its not Stock Froyo or a good UI, don't buy it. No matter how godly the specs of the phones are, it'll still bottleneck the whole thing.
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i agreed your suggestion regarding se phone. i tried x10 before n i know how u feel wink.gif
dhd is the best choice i guess. how about galaxy s?. hmm.gif
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I thought Liquid metal is around RM1160 now ? and x10 is running on 2.1 , isn't that outdated compared to liquid metal which is running on 2.2 froyo ?
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this one i not sure,i saw the acer advertisement from newspaper sell it sell for RM1299(correct me if im wrong)
dun worry,x10 will get 2.3 update soon
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I am using HTC legend now, I have 4k budget for 2, 1 for me and 1 for my girl

we decide to get the same phone, I've search around and found HTC IS AP Set at RM1599

besidee HTC IS, which phone you guys recommend?

The SGS he selling also quite attractive for both 8gb and 16gb (RM1349 & RM1449)


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I am using HTC legend now, I have 4k budget for 2, 1 for me and 1 for my girl

we decide to get the same phone, I've search around and found HTC IS AP Set at RM1599

besidee HTC IS, which phone you guys recommend?

The SGS he selling also quite attractive for both 8gb and 16gb (RM1349 & RM1449)
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if like performance,go for LG Optimus 2x(RM1899)
like camera,go for Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc(RM2099)
*both their price is ori set
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what if I like HTC Sense? biggrin.gif

LG Optimus 2X is in my mind too, but bad experience on my Girl LG KM900, hahaha
but different story la, Smartphone VS Non-Smartphone


SE Arc is cool indeed.
headaache headache
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 14 2011, 02:24 PM)
go for Nexus S,if u dun wan Amoled screen,can go for LG Optimus 2x
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thanks for the input, i've noticed the O2X, but the only drawback was the TFT screen blush.gif
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what if I like HTC Sense? biggrin.gif

LG Optimus 2X is in my mind too, but bad experience on my Girl LG KM900, hahaha
but different story la, Smartphone VS Non-Smartphone
SE Arc is cool indeed.
headaache headache
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nowadays LG phone okay already
u can see its review before u buy it smile.gif

QUOTE(mike86 @ Apr 14 2011, 06:37 PM)
thanks for the input, i've noticed the O2X, but the only drawback was the TFT screen blush.gif
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ya TFT screen,but it is best phone at that range
which got dual core
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this one i not sure,i saw the acer advertisement from newspaper sell it sell for RM1299(correct me if im wrong)
dun worry,x10 will get 2.3 update soon
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but isn't x10 out of my budget ? how much is it eh ?

thanks .
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QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 14 2011, 03:30 PM)
i agreed your suggestion regarding se phone. i tried x10 before n i know how u feel wink.gif
dhd is the best choice i guess. how about galaxy s?. hmm.gif
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Galaxy S is okay if you apply some lag fixes and install a custom rom. Its much cheaper and you can sell it if you don't like it.

QUOTE(iamleavingformars @ Apr 14 2011, 07:43 PM)
but isn't x10 out of my budget ? how much is it eh ?

thanks .
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RM11xx for an AP set.
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i am on curious on buying nexus s or SGS 2? pls recommend me.. thx
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Anyone used the LG Optimus one? how is the features compared to other Froyo OS phones out in the market

it looks kinda good and the screen estate is ok... so any drawbacks on this phone?

if not, i'll buy for my Gf this week.. thx all
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but isn't x10 out of my budget ? how much is it eh ?

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around RM1.1k for ap set
RM1.3k ori set if not mistaken

QUOTE(kang5239 @ Apr 14 2011, 09:43 PM)
i am on curious on buying nexus s or SGS 2? pls recommend me.. thx
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u can try look for SE xperia arc and lg optimus 2x if u rush to get a phone

QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Apr 14 2011, 09:59 PM)
Anyone used the LG Optimus one? how is the features compared to other Froyo OS phones out in the market

it looks kinda good and the screen estate is ok... so any drawbacks on this phone?

if not, i'll buy for my Gf this week.. thx all
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but before u buy it,make sure u take a look on samsung galaxy ace
also quite nice smile.gif
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 14 2011, 10:06 PM)
but before u buy it,make sure u take a look on samsung galaxy ace
also quite nice smile.gif
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Galaxy ace is Rm1200++ right? but I read on Chip review that the Ace will lag while surfing the web... any recommendations for an android phone with a budget of RM1000??
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Galaxy ace is Rm1200++ right? but I read on Chip review that the Ace will lag while surfing the web... any recommendations for an android phone with a budget of RM1000??
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huh ?? galaxy ace oni sell RM999 oni,don't buy it if the seller sell above RM999
another android phone with budget RM1k,got csl spice mi410 and SE xperia x10
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 14 2011, 10:25 PM)
huh ?? galaxy ace oni sell RM999 oni,don't buy it if the seller sell above RM999
another android phone with budget RM1k,got csl spice mi410 and SE xperia x10
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ok thx, will look at all of the models b4 buying wink.gif

ya.. in terms of accessories, does LG still suffer from lack of accessories?
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Apr 14 2011, 11:19 PM)
ok thx, will look at all of the models b4 buying wink.gif

ya.. in terms of accessories, does LG still suffer from lack of accessories?
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ok thx, will look at all of the models b4 buying wink.gif

ya.. in terms of accessories, does LG still suffer from lack of accessories?
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he is seller,c his signature tongue.gif
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mostly buy LG part/accessories has no choice but buy ori
non ori very hard find unlike SE/Nokia
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QUOTE(adrianccseng @ Apr 15 2011, 12:04 AM)
mostly buy LG part/accessories has no choice but buy ori
non ori very hard find unlike SE/Nokia
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so still the same case like 2 years ago... I think my GF would wanna personalize the phone once she gets it lol will compare with the ace and probably the x10 1st wink.gif
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mostly buy LG part/accessories has no choice but buy ori
non ori very hard find unlike SE/Nokia
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haha luckily my phone is ori set
but,can u explain y ap set of lg phone hard to get spare part ? also same phone wor,confusing rclxub.gif
ya,SE & nokia r different,can say all shop sure got sell ap set if they got sell ori set
mayb is them too popular in Malaysia ?
coz go anywhere oso can c nokia n SE user
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Guys.. now more dilemma, HTC Desire S unlock is priced at 1799. So now: Nexus S, HTC IS or Desire S. I wan to customise if possible. But is flashing custom rom necessary?
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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Apr 15 2011, 12:52 AM)
Guys.. now more dilemma, HTC Desire S unlock is priced at 1799. So now: Nexus S, HTC IS or Desire S. I wan to customise if possible. But is flashing custom rom necessary?
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That depends on you bro. Desire S maybe la. But i recommend dual-cores. brows.gif

Custom ROM part is up to you.

For me,
I flash it like i change my pants. whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(41LY45 @ Apr 15 2011, 02:24 AM)
That depends on you bro. Desire S maybe la. But i recommend dual-cores.  brows.gif

Custom ROM part is up to you.

For me,
I flash it like i change my pants.  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Cannot afford dual core la bro.. thats why looking at the high end single cores. So which do you recommend?
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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Apr 15 2011, 02:41 AM)
Cannot afford dual core la bro.. thats why looking at the high end single cores. So which do you recommend?
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Desire S IMO.

Incredible S if you can live with the locked bootloader. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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what is locked bootloader?

Thing which only Desire S have and non in Incredible S?
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Can someone recommend me android phone that can make video call.

From what I know, only SGS can make video call via 3g. Not via apps.

Any others phone?
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Good buy would be samsung galaxy sl@1230 and budget galaxy mini(new model)@rm649. High spec at resonable price.
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QUOTE(41LY45 @ Apr 15 2011, 02:47 AM)
Desire S IMO.

Incredible S if you can live with the locked bootloader.  shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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What about the Nexus S.. heard its a good phone. Worth buying? better than Desire S?

QUOTE(kanethesun @ Apr 15 2011, 05:15 AM)
what is locked bootloader?

Thing which only Desire S have and non in Incredible S?
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Locked bootloader means that you can't flash custom rom. Custom ROM are stuff made by developers instead of the manufacturing company. For example, people with unlocked bootloader on a HTC Desire HD already has 2.3 gingerbread Mod but HTC has not announced the official 2.3 gingerbread.
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QUOTE(kanethesun @ Apr 15 2011, 05:15 AM)
what is locked bootloader?

Thing which only Desire S have and non in Incredible S?
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With a locked bootloader, you can't flash custom roms.

QUOTE(bardshah92 @ Apr 15 2011, 05:57 AM)
Can someone recommend me android phone that can make video call.

From what I know, only SGS can make video call via 3g. Not via apps.

Any others phone?
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Incredible S can too IIRC.

QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Apr 15 2011, 11:46 AM)
What about the Nexus S.. heard its a good phone. Worth buying? better than Desire S?
Locked bootloader means that you can't flash custom rom. Custom ROM are stuff made by developers instead of the manufacturing company. For example, people with unlocked bootloader on a HTC Desire HD already has 2.3 gingerbread Mod but HTC has not announced the official 2.3 gingerbread.
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Its a good phone. Also has Vanilla Gingerbread. It is worth buying for the better GPU and screen. Still, i would go for the Incredible S due to the better camera and build quality. Battery on the Nexus S is superb.
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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Apr 15 2011, 11:46 AM)
What about the Nexus S.. heard its a good phone. Worth buying? better than Desire S?
Locked bootloader means that you can't flash custom rom. Custom ROM are stuff made by developers instead of the manufacturing company. For example, people with unlocked bootloader on a HTC Desire HD already has 2.3 gingerbread Mod but HTC has not announced the official 2.3 gingerbread.
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actually I would pick Nexus S rather than DS/IS, but that's just me tongue.gif

the developer scene for Nexus phone is always the best

if you're getting a new phone, but don't want dual core, IMO go for Nexus S,
stuff you'd miss out on isn't that significant anyway.
its only being overshadowed by the dual core hype,
other than that its a very fine phone.
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Apr 15 2011, 11:52 AM)
actually I would pick Nexus S rather than DS/IS, but that's just me tongue.gif

the developer scene for Nexus phone is always the best

if you're getting a new phone, but don't want dual core, IMO go for Nexus S,
stuff you'd miss out on isn't that significant anyway.
its only being overshadowed by the dual core hype,
other than that its a very fine phone.
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I bet flashing customs will be easier with it as well right? Since its pure google and no lock bootloader.
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QUOTE(iamleavingformars @ Apr 14 2011, 02:53 PM)
I thought Liquid metal is around RM1160 now ? and x10 is running on 2.1 , isn't that outdated compared to liquid metal which is running on 2.2 froyo ?
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Acer Liquid Metal RRP= RM1099 only

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dilemma dilemma

Using Legend now, upgrading to Incredible / Arc le?

All sifu please advise, btw, if I want to backup all my contacts and file to new phone, I backup and move all to Incredible is easier right? with PC Sync?

What if I getting Arc?

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 15 2011, 12:48 AM)
haha luckily my phone is ori set
but,can u explain y ap set of lg phone hard to get spare part ? also same phone wor,confusing rclxub.gif
ya,SE & nokia r different,can say all shop sure got sell ap set if they got sell ori set
mayb is them too popular in Malaysia ?
coz go anywhere oso can c nokia n SE user
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i mean ori spare part/accessories

unlike SE/Nokia u got alot never-heard-before brand spare part/accessories everywhere
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i mean ori spare part/accessories

unlike SE/Nokia u got alot never-heard-before brand spare part/accessories everywhere
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o.O get ur meaning already
thx for explanation icon_rolleyes.gif

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With HTC sync its easier. But since both are Android platforms, if you install Titanium backup you can restore the backup on another phone IIRC.
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Any other android reccomendations for a budget of 1.2k and below ?

where do i buy trsuted ones , like not a reconditioned set and so on . thanks a bunch .


Added on April 15, 2011, 5:04 pm& should i consider Samsung Ace ?

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Take the Samsung Ace... other than that they will recommend you the Acer Liquid Metal
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Take the Samsung Ace... other than that they will recommend you the Acer Liquid Metal
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Which one is better ? samsung ace or the acer liquid metal ?
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QUOTE(iamleavingformars @ Apr 15 2011, 05:30 PM)
Which one is better ? samsung ace or the acer liquid metal ?
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ALM has better specs(proc,resolution) while Ace has a better camera and support.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 15 2011, 05:45 PM)
ALM has better specs(proc,resolution) while Ace has a better camera and support.
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what do you mean by support ? sorry newbie here .

and personally with that budget which one would you pick ?


Added on April 15, 2011, 6:30 pmi heard acer liquid metal's screen , is easily fingerprinted . are there screen protector out the which are scratch/fingerprint proof for the acer liquid metal ?

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Get matte screen protector if you dont want finger prints all over it. But you reduce visibility. And support meaning updates on software / OS. I personally would go for the support and the community. Therefore I pick Samsung
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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Apr 15 2011, 06:47 PM)
Get matte screen protector if you dont want finger prints all over it. But you reduce visibility. And support meaning updates on software / OS. I personally would go for the support and the community. Therefore I pick Samsung
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thanks for the advice , really appreciate it . you think i can get motorola defy for 1.2k ? it's really catching my eye .
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QUOTE(iamleavingformars @ Apr 15 2011, 07:16 PM)
thanks for the advice , really appreciate it . you think i can get motorola defy for 1.2k ? it's really catching my eye .
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AP sets yes. For ori sets i'm not sure. Don't really follow Motorola's products.
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Hi, my phone is dying on me. Looking for a phone that is BUDGETED, 3G and can TETHER to iPad. I'm torn between iPhone 4 or waiting for iP5. So might get something while waiting for iP5.

Plz recommend me one. Thanks!

(PS. touchscreen onot not important. Phone use for call, sms and email checking)
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QUOTE(iamleavingformars @ Apr 15 2011, 04:56 PM)
Any other android reccomendations for a budget of 1.2k and below ?

where do i buy trsuted ones , like not a reconditioned set and so on . thanks a bunch .


Added on April 15, 2011, 5:04 pm& should i consider Samsung Ace ?
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SE xperia x10 or acer liquid metal
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QUOTE(popiahbusuk @ Apr 15 2011, 09:42 PM)
Hi, my phone is dying on me. Looking for a phone that is BUDGETED, 3G and can TETHER to iPad. I'm torn between iPhone 4 or waiting for iP5. So might get something while waiting for iP5.

Plz recommend me one. Thanks!

(PS. touchscreen onot not important. Phone use for call, sms and email checking)
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samsung galaxy ace will suitable for ur budget and requirement. As u need wireless hotspot to tether the internet to ur ipad
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QUOTE(kanethesun @ Apr 15 2011, 02:48 PM)
dilemma dilemma

Using Legend now, upgrading to Incredible / Arc le?

All sifu please advise, btw, if I want to backup all my contacts and file to new phone, I backup and move all to Incredible is easier right? with PC Sync?

What if I getting Arc?
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For contacts, you have Google Contacts. For files, there's Dropbox. No need PC la, just sync to the cloud. Works for all Android phones.

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galaxy sl outrun acer liquid mt on its processor
but galaxy sl doesn't have flash for the camera
is there any other better alternative for acer liquid metal?
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QUOTE(.:Toaster:. @ Apr 16 2011, 12:48 PM)
galaxy sl outrun acer liquid mt on its processor
but galaxy sl doesn't have flash for the camera
is there any other better alternative for acer liquid metal?
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SE x10?
got official promised 2.3 update biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(iamleavingformars @ Apr 15 2011, 07:16 PM)
thanks for the advice , really appreciate it . you think i can get motorola defy for 1.2k ? it's really catching my eye .
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ori is about 1.4k~1.5k, AP defy can get below 1.2k

shud consider Samsung Galaxy SL
ori dropped to around 1.2k
better than galaxy ace[just camera no flash sweat.gif ]

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SE x10 ? whatcha guys think ?
when is it rumoured that the 2.3 gingerbread comes out for x10 ?


Added on April 16, 2011, 5:26 pmand does it lag ?

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QUOTE(.:Toaster:. @ Apr 16 2011, 12:48 PM)
galaxy sl outrun acer liquid mt on its processor
but galaxy sl doesn't have flash for the camera
is there any other better alternative for acer liquid metal?
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Not really. At that price its the best you can get. RM1099 shocking.gif for a phone with Desire Z(RM2299)'s processor.

QUOTE(iamleavingformars @ Apr 16 2011, 05:23 PM)
SE x10 ? whatcha guys think ?
when is it rumoured that the 2.3 gingerbread comes out for x10 ?


Added on April 16, 2011, 5:26 pmand does it lag ?
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x10 is good if you use the camera a lot. Gingerbread is confirmed iinm. Lags a little because of the large screen and the bad UI. SE's TimeScape is quite laggy. Its currently recommended for the Gingerbread confirmation and its price.
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QUOTE(iamleavingformars @ Apr 16 2011, 05:23 PM)
SE x10 ? whatcha guys think ?
when is it rumoured that the 2.3 gingerbread comes out for x10 ?


Added on April 16, 2011, 5:26 pmand does it lag ?
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not rumor is OFFICIAL PROMISE
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xper...r-news-2450.php
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/201...a%E2%84%A2-x10/
in 2.1, some ppl says lag

but 2.3 will hopefully be a big change as it removes the mediascape & replaced by the newest Sony Ericsson Android media widgets
mayb will bring flash support as well as x10 meets the hardware requirement to has full flash support[correct me if im wrong that it meet the hardware req.]


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i'm torn between Galaxy S, Incredible S . for AP set they are at around same price. huhu.
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i'm torn between Galaxy S, Incredible S . for AP set they are at around same price. huhu.
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wad ur budget? maybe got better choice?
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1500 + cos for AP can get Galaxy and Incredible S at that price.. summore Galaxy will get gingerbread update later, Incredible S bootroom is locked if im not mistaken. huhu

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shit then i want xperia x10 , camera's awesome everything's awesome !
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shit then i want xperia x10 , camera's awesome everything's awesome !
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then u just have to wait for the update
se always delay/slow update but at least they promise then sure got


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1500 + cos  for AP can get Galaxy and Incredible S at that price.. summore Galaxy will get gingerbread update later, Incredible S bootroom is locked if im not mistaken. huhu
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y not galaxy SL instead? [unless u wan super amoled badly]
u can get ori & save some money [around 1.3k~]

yea i heard lots of forumer said IS's bootloader is locked

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galaxy S and SL different only the screen? not body recommend me galaxy SL, coz everybody keep saying superAMOLED is far better. let me read abit about SL version first.
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then u just have to wait for the update
se always delay/slow update but at least they promise then sure got
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Apr 16 2011, 11:57 PM)
galaxy S and SL different only the screen? not body recommend me galaxy SL, coz everybody keep saying superAMOLED is far better. let me read abit about SL version first.
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SLCD < Super AMOLED. Super AMOLED is far better than the LCD displays.

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Guys!! What are your pick on the Nexus S? Worth getting? AP set.. the stupid local ori set is far overpriced. Budget is around there. Need to be able to flash custom ROM.
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Apr 16 2011, 11:13 PM)
i'm torn between Galaxy S, Incredible S . for AP set they are at around same price. huhu.
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I have the same thought like you, hahah,

but I am torning between SE Arc and HTC Incredible S now

the final of 2 after filtering on SE Arc / HTC IS / Samseng Galaxy S / LG Optimus 2X
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SE Arc i dont really like the interface.haha. but it worth as an option.
how much is SE arc? around 2k right? hmmm
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Apr 16 2011, 11:57 PM)
galaxy S and SL different only the screen? not body recommend me galaxy SL, coz everybody keep saying superAMOLED is far better. let me read abit about SL version first.
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Not the screen only. Internal memory wise, if i'm not mistaken, the SL has less than its S-AMOLED counterpart, the SGS. And the SL has less ram(384mb) too.
Be informed that the screen is not S-LCD. Its SC-LCD. Please do not mix these two together. The difference is huge.


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QUOTE(kanethesun @ Apr 17 2011, 08:14 AM)
I have the same thought like you, hahah,

but I am torning between SE Arc and HTC Incredible S now

the final of 2 after filtering on SE Arc / HTC IS / Samseng Galaxy S / LG Optimus 2X
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I'm in the middle of the same dilemma as you. But thanks to the yellow tint below the Optimus 2x's screen and the lack of accessories, i cut it off the finalists. Left with Arc, IS and SGS. SGS has the lag problem which requires a fix and custom modding. Arc and IS is okay.

QUOTE(sOuLx @ Apr 17 2011, 10:58 AM)
SE Arc i dont really like the interface.haha. but it worth as an option.
how much is SE arc? around 2k right? hmmm
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Yep. Its either that or the IS around that price. Worthwhile ones.


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hahaha, exactly

now my final is either IS or Arc only
but my heart is more towards to IS now biggrin.gif

9 to IS and 7 to Arc biggrin.gif

I just curious is there any outlet in Sunway Pyramid have both model for me to molest 1st? biggrin.gif
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How about Nexus S. current AP price for the phone is no much different than the IS and SGS. even DesireS AP set is around that price... the only concern for me is the availability to root the phone to custom room and future upgrade for adroid 2.4 later haha.

torn between many phone. too much choice. no wonder people go for iphone.haha
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Apr 17 2011, 11:42 AM)
How about Nexus S. current AP price for the phone is no much different than the IS and SGS. even DesireS AP set is around that price... the only concern for me is the availability to root the phone to custom room and future upgrade for adroid 2.4 later haha.

torn between many phone. too much choice. no wonder people go for iphone.haha
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Nexus S has that, but do note you only have 5MP camera, 16 gig storage with no SD card slot. Can root, can flash, will receive 2.4 first..
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Apr 16 2011, 11:57 PM)
galaxy S and SL different only the screen? not body recommend me galaxy SL, coz everybody keep saying superAMOLED is far better. let me read abit about SL version first.
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go see comparison between SuperClear LCD vs IPS LCD vs Super AMOLED
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9003_gala...eview-562p2.php

super amoled abit blueish in colour but better sunlight legibility & lower battery consume
but i like SC-LCD's colour rendering over Super AMOLED
& i would prefer ori over AP

btw, SGSL runs on a weaker GPU, smaller internal memory[4GB version], smaller ram & heavier than SGS


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motorola got good support ?
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they slow & once in a blue moon give their models update even is flagship

models like DEFY got bootloader locked, but not on ATRIX

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I still have mix feeling about AP and original. reason is i'm not always in malaysia.haha. will be coming back soon for a while.
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to the most of you
i will choose arc over SGS/HTC IS

1. becoz camera is quite a priority to me tongue.gif

2. arc got bootloader unlocked soon & now HTC turns to be like SE last time, IS got its bootloader locked
well, at least sgs oso got unlocked bootloader

3. arc design is so nice drool.gif

4. i like the reality display over super amoled
of course, SLCD is a big no


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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Apr 17 2011, 01:35 PM)
I still have mix feeling about AP and original. reason is i'm not always in malaysia.haha. will be coming back soon for a while.
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lol
but if u wan claim warranty must come bak malaysia no matter AP/Ori tongue.gif


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How about Nexus S. current AP price for the phone is no much different than the IS and SGS. even DesireS AP set is around that price... the only concern for me is the availability to root the phone to custom room and future upgrade for adroid 2.4 later haha.

torn between many phone. too much choice. no wonder people go for iphone.haha
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i would prefer nexus S > sgs/is

GOOGLE nexus S
so definitely big community out there, 1st receive new version update oso him [the 1st phone to get 2.3]

but if u include arc, then i take arc tongue.gif
camera is a important factor to me,
got bootloader unlocked so i oso can do custom thingy

and...
HTC IS's bootloader locked..
i dun really like SGS tongue.gif

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i wonder do i need good camera in the phone coz i know i wont bring my dslr everytime.
demmit, arc also tempting. but the price range can get dual core already.haha
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Apr 17 2011, 03:01 PM)
i wonder do i need good camera in the phone coz i know i wont bring my dslr everytime.
demmit, arc also tempting. but the price range can get dual core already.haha
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yea optimus 2x
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1. Brand - prefer HTC (other brands such as SS, LG, Moto can also, but do explain which aspect they excel)
2. Budget - 1.6k-1.8k (2k max)
3. I can wait until mid-May. Any phone that will be launched in May is welcome too.
4. Prefered specs - 800mhz and above processor / RAM higher better / android 2.2 above / screen larger than 3.5inch
5. My current Nokia 5700XM is dying on me. Wanted to be Android-ilized rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ Apr 17 2011, 04:02 PM)
1. Brand - prefer HTC (other brands such as SS, LG, Moto can also, but do explain which aspect they excel)
2. Budget - 1.6k-1.8k (2k max)
3. I can wait until mid-May. Any phone that will be launched in May is welcome too.
4. Prefered specs - 800mhz and above processor / RAM higher better / android 2.2 above / screen larger than 3.5inch
5. My current Nokia 5700XM is dying on me. Wanted to be Android-ilized rclxms.gif
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RM1999(RM15xx for AP) HTC Incredible S. 4" screen 1GHZ Q8255.768 mb ram(highest available now is 1gb). 8MP camera. Android 2.2 with 2.3 coming in June.
RM1799 HTC Desire S. 3.7" screen. Specs same as above but comes with Android 2.3. But has a 5MP camera.
RM18999 Optimus 2x dual core processor, 512mb ram, 8mp camera but has a few issues. Yellow tint below the screen, sensitivity issues and a few other.

These are the few phones that are currently worth. Not sure if Sensation is gonna cost below 2k.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Apr 17 2011, 04:29 PM)
RM18999 Optimus 2x dual core processor, 512mb ram, 8mp camera but has a few issues. Yellow tint below the screen, sensitivity issues and a few other.

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thats cool.. laugh.gif

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thats cool.. laugh.gif
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Sorry smile.gif
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hey..lyn
i want to buy an android phone and my budget is 1k. any recomendation
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hey..lyn
i want to buy an android phone and my budget is 1k. any recomendation
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1.acer liquid metal biggrin.gif
2. samsung galaxy ace
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what the price of acer liquid metal ??
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what the price of acer liquid metal ??
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official RRP 1099
garage sales around 1k~1.1k
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go see comparison between SuperClear LCD vs IPS LCD vs Super AMOLED
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9003_gala...eview-562p2.php

they slow & once in a blue moon give their models update even is flagship

models like DEFY got bootloader locked, but not on ATRIX
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what's a bootloader lock ? sorry ahah .
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what's a bootloader lock ? sorry ahah .
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1211308
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1211308
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Thank you , you've been such a help
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hei peeps, im aiming on android base phone but in low budget.
prefer HTC and have 2 phone in mind
1. HTC Legend
2. HTC wild fire

i love wildfire because of it design but sadly it on qvga and tft screen and legend have higher spec with amoled screen.

beside this 2 great phone, what other suggestion?
isit worth to adopt legend amoled screen and go for wildfire?
im afraid of regret in future if the tft qvga screen not impress me.
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QUOTE(paulcj @ Apr 18 2011, 01:29 AM)
hei peeps, im aiming on android base phone but in low budget.
prefer HTC and have 2 phone in mind
1. HTC Legend
2. HTC wild fire

i love wildfire because of it design but sadly it on qvga and tft screen and legend have higher spec with amoled screen.

beside this 2 great phone, what other suggestion?
isit worth to adopt legend amoled screen and go for wildfire?
im afraid of regret in future if the tft qvga screen not impress me.
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both in the same price eh?

I own Legend previously, and my colleague own a Wildfire,
the screen color difference is obvious I would say =)

if you manage to find both at the same price, +1 to Legend.
600mhz + its sexy design biggrin.gif
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This my final 3 choice ,
1.Acer Liquid Metal
2.Motorola Defy
3.SE Xperia X10

can you tell me the comparison and pros and cons of this 3 phones , thanks . biggrin.gif
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Hi guys,
im planning to upgrade my android phone to a more powerful phone.
Currently using GA10..


1. Brand. (Samsung or HTC ?)
2. Budget. (<1.5k)
3. Specs. (anything higher than my GA10)
4. What you need in the phone (basicallu I need something smoother than my current phone cos sometimes my phone lags and my screen sensitivity kinda shakehead.gif)

thanks for ye help !
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Can anyone recommend me the best phone around RM800 max, besides Spice Mi300?


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@alister,
wads GA10? >.>
@somebody going to mars,
i would recommend SGSL over ALM
SGSL ori current cost 1.2k~1.3k only o.O [according to my pricelist & LYN garage sales]

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Can anyone recommend me the best phone around RM800 max, besides Spice Mi300?
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i think you can get LG Optimus One hmm.gif

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QUOTE(adrianccseng @ Apr 18 2011, 02:24 PM)
@alister,
wads GA10? >.>
@somebody going to mars,
i would recommend SGSL over ALM
SGSL ori current cost 1.2k~1.3k only o.O [according to my pricelist & LYN garage sales]
hi mate, Garmin Asus A10 I'm using. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(alister88 @ Apr 18 2011, 02:36 PM)
hi mate, Garmin Asus A10 I'm using. biggrin.gif
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oic

SGSL vs SGS
Super AMOLED is replaced by SuperClear LCD [NOT S-LCD by SONY, 2 total different thing]
smaller internal memory [4GB vs SGS's 8/16GB]
slightly weaker GPU

EDIT: u edited post huh? tongue.gif

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