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Mr.Apple
post May 12 2012, 12:51 AM

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As we all know, study duration for architecture is 5 years (part 1 + part 2). When i look at LAM website, recognized uni for australia, they stated there 5 years for part 2 & no part 1? Part 2 for 5 years? or that 5 years including part 1? hmm.gif I'm so confused *http://www.lam.gov.my/List/Australia.htm*

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post May 12 2012, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Apple @ May 11 2012, 04:51 PM)
As we all know, study duration for architecture is 5 years (part 1 + part 2). When i look at LAM website, recognized uni for australia, they stated there 5 years for part 2 & no part 1? Part 2 for 5 years? or that 5 years including part 1? hmm.gif  I'm so confused *http://www.lam.gov.my/List/Australia.htm*
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that is parts 1 and 2 combined together, totalling up to 5 years.


Added on May 12, 2012, 2:57 pm
QUOTE(cend @ May 11 2012, 09:49 AM)
So how? I thought that the PIDN (Program Ijazah Dalam Negara) scholarship will be out usually on august, and I'm aiming that scholarship. I really want to avoid taking PTPTN loans.

I just want to know whether me as a 2011 SPM leaver is qualified to apply for that scholarship for Sarjana Muda Sains (Senibina). There is no "ijazah" in my programme, so I kinda confused right now.
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it's best that u check under PTPTN/scholarship guides in another thread. this is definitely not a new case. most students start their 1st year already attached to PTPTN. but as with my students, some of them received JPA PIDN scholarship about 2 months after starting the course. so i'm sure they're able to withdraw from PTPTN one way or another.

sarjana, diploma, sarjana muda, kedoktoran... these are ALL ijazah. ijazah is the certificate u're getting. so it says that sarjana muda sains senibina, it's definitely an ijazah. it just couldnt be anything else!

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post May 12 2012, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(cend @ May 11 2012, 05:49 PM)
So how? I thought that the PIDN (Program Ijazah Dalam Negara) scholarship will be out usually on august, and I'm aiming that scholarship. I really want to avoid taking PTPTN loans.

I just want to know whether me as a 2011 SPM leaver is qualified to apply for that scholarship for Sarjana Muda Sains (Senibina). There is no "ijazah" in my programme, so I kinda confused right now.
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you can always apply for ptptn loan first and then when you got accepted for scholarship you can always terminate ur loan and pay what youve already accepted before.

as for JPA scholarship minimum req is 3.3 for your stpm or matrix results i think, but there a catch, once youve graduated you have to serve as governmetn servant for at least 10 years and any other government link companies.


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post May 13 2012, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(finger_waverz @ May 12 2012, 03:00 PM)
you can always apply for ptptn loan first and then when you got accepted for scholarship you can always terminate ur loan and pay what youve already accepted before.

as for JPA scholarship minimum req is 3.3 for your stpm or matrix results i think, but there a catch, once youve graduated you have to serve as governmetn servant for at least 10 years and any other government link companies.
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How do? I only have SPM result of 5A,5A+.

When I look back at their old application advertistment (2011/2012) http://esilav2.jpa.gov.my/esila_new/pdf/20...s_PIDN_2011.pdf

I am qualified...but it states only for diploma.

And 2nd year students are not qualified to apply. rclxub.gif

So I made a mistake taking UiTM...should've had taken UTM diploma for architecture instead...

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QUOTE(cend @ May 13 2012, 12:22 AM)
How do? I only have SPM result of 5A,5A+.

When I look back at their old application advertistment (2011/2012) http://esilav2.jpa.gov.my/esila_new/pdf/20...s_PIDN_2011.pdf

I am qualified...but it states only for diploma.

And 2nd year students are not qualified to apply.  rclxub.gif

So I made a mistake taking UiTM...should've had taken UTM diploma for architecture instead...
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then though luck have to refer back to uitm jpa scholar (bac sc arch)
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post May 13 2012, 08:16 PM

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can we work overseas after getting a part 2 in local unis?
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QUOTE(HYUNee @ May 13 2012, 12:16 PM)
can we work overseas after getting a part 2 in local unis?
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yes.

but ofcourse it depends on job availability, visa and so on.
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post May 15 2012, 12:35 AM

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RM 92k for Bachelor Science of Architecture in Taylors, RM 64K in UCSI & 56k in KLIUC -__-

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RM 92k for Bachelor Science of Architecture in Taylors, RM 64K in UCSI & 56k in KLIUC -__-
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92k for taylors? wow... better go study at UTAS or something
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post May 15 2012, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Apple @ May 14 2012, 04:35 PM)
RM 92k for Bachelor Science of Architecture in Taylors, RM 64K in UCSI & 56k in KLIUC -__-
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that's the price of accreditation wink.gif.
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post May 15 2012, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(finger_waverz @ May 15 2012, 08:35 AM)
92k for taylors? wow... better go study at UTAS or something
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I'm applying UTAS smile.gif


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that's the price of accreditation wink.gif.
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It's worth with the accreditation but I don't think ptptn will covered 92k.

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post May 15 2012, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Apple @ May 15 2012, 01:59 PM)
I'm applying UTAS smile.gif
what's UTAS? university of tasmania?
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post May 15 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(girugaga86 @ May 15 2012, 03:53 PM)
what's UTAS? university of tasmania?
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Yup, University of Tasmania


Added on May 15, 2012, 4:11 pmMr Aza, for IPTS students that planning to study Bsc Archi in IPTA, is it a MUST for them to have a muet? or they can take it later?

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post May 15 2012, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Apple @ May 15 2012, 03:58 PM)
Yup, University of Tasmania


Added on May 15, 2012, 4:11 pmMr Aza, for IPTS students that planning to study Bsc Archi in IPTA, is it a MUST for them to have a muet? or they can take it later?
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i see, may i know the fees as well? or any link to their course fees? im also searching for a unis that offers affordable degrees biggrin.gif

and to mr aza, i would also like to know if i have completed my first degree (bachelor of scs) in an IPTS, and have taken my part 1 through external examination, do i still need MUET/IELTS to enter IPTA? and is MQA still important if i already have a part 1? lets say i want to pursue my Part 2 in IPTA, and i've already have part 1 through external examination. Just want to know do i still need MUET and MQA.
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QUOTE(girugaga86 @ May 15 2012, 04:20 PM)
i see, may i know the fees as well? or any link to their course fees? im also searching for a unis that offers affordable degrees biggrin.gif

and to mr aza, i would also like to know if i have completed my first degree (bachelor of scs) in an IPTS, and have taken my part 1 through external examination, do i still need MUET/IELTS to enter IPTA? and is MQA still important if i already have a part 1? lets say i want to pursue my Part 2 in IPTA, and i've already have part 1 through external examination. Just want to know do i still need MUET and MQA.
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Fees in UTAS, part 2, Master of Architecture (2 years) = AUD$ 17232 per year x 2 = AUD$ 32 464
UTAS offered the cheapest fees in aus followed by Univercity of Newcastle.
Professor Roger Fay, associate dean for Faculty of Science, Eng & Technology major architecture said to me, the fees is only for this year. They might increase a lil bit starting next year.

For Univercity of Newcastle fees, I only know for undergraduate, maybe u can check at their website.

So, girugaga86, how was the external exam part 1? is it hard? Can u tell me the process?

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Besides UCSI, Taylor and INTI, anyone knows is there any U/college still open for intake in architecture ?
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post May 15 2012, 08:29 PM

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Besides UCSI, Taylor and INTI, anyone knows is there any U/college still open for intake in architecture ?
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QUOTE(Mr.Apple @ May 15 2012, 07:58 AM)
Mr Aza, for IPTS students that planning to study Bsc Archi in IPTA, is it a MUST for them to have a muet? or they can take it later?
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MUET is part of IPTA intake requirement at any level, as far as i know. but i'll check if u can take it afterwards instead.

QUOTE(girugaga86 @ May 15 2012, 08:20 AM)

and to mr aza, i would also like to know if i have completed my first degree (bachelor of scs) in an IPTS, and have taken my part 1 through external examination, do i still need MUET/IELTS to enter IPTA? and is MQA still important if i already have a part 1? lets say i want to pursue my Part 2 in IPTA, and i've already have part 1 through external examination. Just want to know do i still need MUET and MQA.
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MUET yes, IELTS not compulsory. but if u have IELTS, i dont think u have to sit for MUET. but do note that IELTS is only valid for 2 years.

and what do u mean by MQA? MQA is an agency. why would u NEED it?
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post May 15 2012, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Apple @ May 15 2012, 08:23 PM)
Fees in UTAS, part 2, Master of Architecture (2 years) = AUD$ 17232 per year x 2 = AUD$ 32 464
UTAS offered the cheapest fees in aus followed by Univercity of Newcastle.
Professor Roger Fay, associate dean for Faculty of Science, Eng & Technology major architecture said to me, the fees is only for this year. They might increase a lil bit starting next year.

For Univercity of Newcastle fees, I only know for undergraduate, maybe u can check at their website.

So, girugaga86, how was the external exam part 1? is it hard? Can u tell me the process?
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Ahh, but if include the living expenses in Aussie. It should be way out of my parents budget then. Hmmm.. Guess i'd just continue searching within Malaysia first.

and i havent obtained my Part 1 yet smile.gif i was asking what if I've already obtained my Part 1. Do i still need MUET and my course to be recognized by MQA in order to apply for my part 2 in an IPTA. Cause if possible, i'd like to join IPTA for my second degree.. But i'm curious though, how hard will the Part 1 examination be? Mr. Aza..? hmm.gif

QUOTE(azarimy @ May 15 2012, 09:14 PM)
MUET is part of IPTA intake requirement at any level, as far as i know. but i'll check if u can take it afterwards instead.
MUET yes, IELTS not compulsory. but if u have IELTS, i dont think u have to sit for MUET. but do note that IELTS is only valid for 2 years.

and what do u mean by MQA? MQA is an agency. why would u NEED it?
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I see, so even if i have obtained my Part 1, i still need MUET.

And what i meant was, lets say i am to pursue my first degree in IPTS, and that IPTS has yet to be accredited by MQA/LAN. For example, UTAR or KLIUC. And after my first degree, given that i've already passed the Part 1 examination and obtained my Part 1. Do i still need my course to be recognized by MQA in order to enter IPTA even if I already have my Part 1?

As far as i concern, a Diploma holder from an IPTS who want to enter IPTA for their first degree. Their course should at least be recognized by MQA. IPTA wouldnt even bother about your application if your course is not accredited by LAN/MQA. Wonder if its the same for an IPTS' first degree graduate, who already obtained their Part 1 through external examination. Is MQA still important then? I remember when i was working as a trainee in my firm. An architect told me that once you've obtained your Part 1, the IPTA could care less about anything else. How true is this?
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QUOTE(girugaga86 @ May 15 2012, 02:01 PM)
and i havent obtained my Part 1 yet smile.gif i was asking what if I've already obtained my Part 1. Do i still need MUET and my course to be recognized by MQA in order to apply for my part 2 in an IPTA. Cause if possible, i'd like to join IPTA for my second degree.. But i'm curious though, how hard will the Part 1 examination be? Mr. Aza..?  hmm.gif


not that hard. it's an interview. mostly based on works that u have done before during ur part 1. the hard part is, what is done is done. if they dont think the works u did during part 1 is not at par, then there's no way for u to change it, is there?

but not all is lost. u can always compensate the shortcomings with work experience, usually between 1-2 years. if u failed ur part 1 and dont wanna work, u could just sit for 2nd degree in any IPTS, and then sit for parts 1 and 2 together afterwards.

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I see, so even if i have obtained my Part 1, i still need MUET.


MUET is a general requirement for IPTA entry. it doesnt have anything to do with doing architecture, going for 2nd degree or anything. if u wanna join IPTA for the 1st time, u're gonna need MUET. that's the ministry policy.

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And what i meant was, lets say i am to pursue my first degree in IPTS, and that IPTS has yet to be accredited by MQA/LAN. For example, UTAR or KLIUC. And after my first degree, given that i've already passed the Part 1 examination and obtained my Part 1. Do i still need my course to be recognized by MQA in order to enter IPTA even if I already have my Part 1?

As far as i concern, a Diploma holder from an IPTS who want to enter IPTA for their first degree. Their course should at least be recognized by MQA. IPTA wouldnt even bother about your application if your course is not accredited by LAN/MQA. Wonder if its the same for an IPTS' first degree graduate, who already obtained their Part 1 through external examination. Is MQA still important then? I remember when i was working as a trainee in my firm. An architect told me that once you've obtained your Part 1, the IPTA could care less about anything else. How true is this?
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as long as u have obtained ur part 1, u should have no problem going for part 2. however, the lack of MQA might be an issue for IPTAs. i'm not absolutely clear about this. furthermore, i cant say if LAM would be willing to accredit u with part 1 with a non-MQA accredited local degree.



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