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girugaga86
post Apr 10 2012, 01:04 PM

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anyone here from kliuc? am wondering how good is their degree in architecture. I am choosing between Ucsi and kliuc.

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post Apr 11 2012, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 10 2012, 01:58 PM)
go UCSI.
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Why? Any reason sad.gif

Edit: let's say I am planning to further my Part 2 in IPTA after getting my Part 1 through external examinations. Will the choice of the IPTS that I'm planning to go affects my chances of getting a part 1? Or am I required to gain some field knowledge prior to sitting for my Part 1?

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post Apr 11 2012, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 11 2012, 10:28 AM)
KLIUC is only producing the 1st batch of its graduates this year (or was it last year?), while UCSI have produced a number of graduates and is ready to go through the accreditation process. at least that's more than a school that have only begun to produce a product.

once u get ur part 1, it doesnt matter which IPTS u came from. however...

a good school would already have obtained part 1 accreditation. a school that hasnt means there are certain things that are lacking, be it in terms of skills, knowledge, delivery, mastery, facilities and so on. this is although experience is not a requirement, it's certainly needed to boost ur portfolio.
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I see. So it'd be better to go to ucsi for their experience. What do you think of UCSI in general? Judging from their students works/etc from the architectural workshops? And how do you rate IPTS' works compared to those from IPTA?

Besides my best work, what else do I need to prepare/compile for my portfolio? Sorry if the question is already asked.
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post Apr 11 2012, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 11 2012, 11:10 PM)
in general, the design works from UCSI are quite comparable to the IPTAs. in fact, most IPTS' design works are comparable. however, architecture is not just about design. there are so many other aspects such as technical or practice management and so on.

on the portfolio, basically u need to have everything.
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I concur. There are so many aspects to cover.

So the portfolio could be everything ranging from my design studios to the work that I've done in an architecture firm? Hmm, make sense. Well, thank you azarimy. I've been following this thread for a while. This is my first time posting here. Will post again if I have any more questions in the future.

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post Apr 25 2012, 12:21 AM

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Anyone here from lim kok wing? Few weeks ago i've posted here and considered about going to UCSI for my first degree. I enquired about the fees in LKW and its much cheaper than UCSI. But I've heard so many negative remarks about lkw and most are about "walao a lot of blackies" and "lecturers dont teach" etc etc but nothing about their architecture. Honestly, how good is their architecture?
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post Apr 25 2012, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(finger_waverz @ Apr 25 2012, 01:55 AM)
honestly not good, youll regret studying there, UCSI is much more better comparing to LKW..

just because you see an ads of LKW saying that they are a "design" university doesnt mean it really producing one.
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yeah seriously man, I heard so many negative stuff about LKW, I did consider heading there once. But i really wonder though cause some of my friend's work are really impressive. Their only complaints was the bad management. So speaking in terms of education for architecture, what so bad about LKW really? I'm curious.

edit: I see that you're working hard to prepare for the architectural workshop, PADI. I wish you good luck for it. Hope its all good. Have fun thumbup.gif

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post May 15 2012, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Apple @ May 15 2012, 01:59 PM)
I'm applying UTAS smile.gif
what's UTAS? university of tasmania?
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post May 15 2012, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Apple @ May 15 2012, 03:58 PM)
Yup, University of Tasmania


Added on May 15, 2012, 4:11 pmMr Aza, for IPTS students that planning to study Bsc Archi in IPTA, is it a MUST for them to have a muet? or they can take it later?
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i see, may i know the fees as well? or any link to their course fees? im also searching for a unis that offers affordable degrees biggrin.gif

and to mr aza, i would also like to know if i have completed my first degree (bachelor of scs) in an IPTS, and have taken my part 1 through external examination, do i still need MUET/IELTS to enter IPTA? and is MQA still important if i already have a part 1? lets say i want to pursue my Part 2 in IPTA, and i've already have part 1 through external examination. Just want to know do i still need MUET and MQA.
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post May 15 2012, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Apple @ May 15 2012, 08:23 PM)
Fees in UTAS, part 2, Master of Architecture (2 years) = AUD$ 17232 per year x 2 = AUD$ 32 464
UTAS offered the cheapest fees in aus followed by Univercity of Newcastle.
Professor Roger Fay, associate dean for Faculty of Science, Eng & Technology major architecture said to me, the fees is only for this year. They might increase a lil bit starting next year.

For Univercity of Newcastle fees, I only know for undergraduate, maybe u can check at their website.

So, girugaga86, how was the external exam part 1? is it hard? Can u tell me the process?
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Ahh, but if include the living expenses in Aussie. It should be way out of my parents budget then. Hmmm.. Guess i'd just continue searching within Malaysia first.

and i havent obtained my Part 1 yet smile.gif i was asking what if I've already obtained my Part 1. Do i still need MUET and my course to be recognized by MQA in order to apply for my part 2 in an IPTA. Cause if possible, i'd like to join IPTA for my second degree.. But i'm curious though, how hard will the Part 1 examination be? Mr. Aza..? hmm.gif

QUOTE(azarimy @ May 15 2012, 09:14 PM)
MUET is part of IPTA intake requirement at any level, as far as i know. but i'll check if u can take it afterwards instead.
MUET yes, IELTS not compulsory. but if u have IELTS, i dont think u have to sit for MUET. but do note that IELTS is only valid for 2 years.

and what do u mean by MQA? MQA is an agency. why would u NEED it?
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I see, so even if i have obtained my Part 1, i still need MUET.

And what i meant was, lets say i am to pursue my first degree in IPTS, and that IPTS has yet to be accredited by MQA/LAN. For example, UTAR or KLIUC. And after my first degree, given that i've already passed the Part 1 examination and obtained my Part 1. Do i still need my course to be recognized by MQA in order to enter IPTA even if I already have my Part 1?

As far as i concern, a Diploma holder from an IPTS who want to enter IPTA for their first degree. Their course should at least be recognized by MQA. IPTA wouldnt even bother about your application if your course is not accredited by LAN/MQA. Wonder if its the same for an IPTS' first degree graduate, who already obtained their Part 1 through external examination. Is MQA still important then? I remember when i was working as a trainee in my firm. An architect told me that once you've obtained your Part 1, the IPTA could care less about anything else. How true is this?
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post May 15 2012, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 15 2012, 10:25 PM)
not that hard. it's an interview. mostly based on works that u have done before during ur part 1. the hard part is, what is done is done. if they dont think the works u did during part 1 is not at par, then there's no way for u to change it, is there?

but not all is lost. u can always compensate the shortcomings with work experience, usually between 1-2 years. if u failed ur part 1 and dont wanna work, u could just sit for 2nd degree in any IPTS, and then sit for parts 1 and 2 together afterwards.
MUET is a general requirement for IPTA entry. it doesnt have anything to do with doing architecture, going for 2nd degree or anything. if u wanna join IPTA for the 1st time, u're gonna need MUET. that's the ministry policy.
as long as u have obtained ur part 1, u should have no problem going for part 2. however, the lack of MQA might be an issue for IPTAs. i'm not absolutely clear about this. furthermore, i cant say if LAM would be willing to accredit u with part 1 with a non-MQA accredited local degree.
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I see, I was a little bit lost about MUET and MQA accreditation. Thanks for clearing that up for me!

Another thing is, I have decided to join UCSI. Dont think i'll be going to KLIUC or LKW. Taylors is out of the question, mostly because of their fees and i'm not even sure if they can retain their Part 1 after 2013. Since what they have now is just a conditional accreditation for 2years. If i am to join taylors, it'd be for their Part 1. Pretty big risk to spend so much and not knowing whether they can retain it hmm.gif but im sure they can retain it somehow.

But anyways, I cant seem to find UCSI's Bsc Architecture in MQA list of recognized courses. But i remember a friend of mine did tell me that UCSI has a provisional accreditation by MQA for their Bsc architecture. And most of his friends have no trouble passing the Part 1 exam. Although he failed the interview (portfolio tak cukup bagus) tongue.gif and was given an assignment to complete then sit for the exam again laugh.gif so is it safe to assume that UCSI architecture is recognized MQA? or should i just clarify this with MQA. Abit worried here. Maybe i just think too much sweat.gif


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post May 16 2012, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 16 2012, 12:09 AM)
i cant speak for MQA apart from what i've already told u. i think it's best u take it up to them directly for further clarification wink.gif.
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Yep, i guess i will just do that. Thanks again, azarimy laugh.gif

QUOTE(MiloAisLOLO @ May 16 2012, 12:45 AM)
The tuition fees is around 8000AUD and around 3000AUD approximately per semester. That is without the international student scholarship which is -25% off that 8000 AUD.
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pretty good deal honestly. Are you applying there though?

QUOTE(gomes. @ May 16 2012, 04:52 AM)
Read a pattern language, a must. Im not even an architect but I read it!

http://www.amazon.com/Pattern-Language-Bui.../ref=pd_sim_b_1
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how much would it cost to ship in here to Malaysia? seems like a good book to read.
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post May 23 2012, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Apple @ May 23 2012, 05:59 PM)
Does Bsc of Architecture in LKW has a good reputation compared to other IPTS (UCSI, Taylor's, KLIUC) ? I heard a few things from my friends, during her last internship, that company don't really like to accept students from LKW for their intern.
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I considered LKW before for my degree, it seems that there are so many bad rumors about LKW and i don't understand why. It was so bad until my aunt who knows nothing bout architecture education told me that LKW is bad. I dont know where the rumors are coming from but I dropped LKW from my list. If LKW reputation is that bad until a firm doesn't really want to accept you, then i believe it's pretty serious.

what i could gather is:

1) loud music everywhere
2) you can smoke in the campus
3) uni paid more attention to social events than actually teaching you
4) lecturer not up to par (or so)
5) most of their good lecturers went to Taylors or UCSI (this was few years back, not sure about now)
6) too many foreigners

the first two are based on my own experience, i actually wen't there to enquire about their course.

My friend is studying in LKW, he's one of the top student there. Work wise, he's amazing. But that's individual, and it's pretty subjective cause their work doesn't actually represent the quality of the school they're in. So i'm not actually sure hows the standard for their architecture course in LKW. Most of the rumors I heard is towards LKW and not about their architecture education. Hopefully someone can clarify this
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post Jun 5 2012, 05:20 PM

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this is probably irrelevant to the thread but I was wondering what kinda computer specs you guys are using for your work hmm.gif

especially to run softwares like autocad, revit, 3ds Max, Sketchup and Photoshop/illustrator.
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post Jun 5 2012, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jun 5 2012, 08:26 PM)
Most of the time, specs good enough for decent gaming is enough. I'd put a budget of around rm2500 as good, centered arnd processor, graphics card and ram. some renderers such as lumion relies heavily on graphics card, while others are only processor and ram intensive.

most graphics card today dont make much difference on autocad or revit, unless u go for workstation graphics like quadro. Bottomline is, just get one enough for todays best games and u r good to go.
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Alright, thanks again azarimy smile.gif

i'm planning to invest in a workstation once i completed my studies. Right now, a gaming laptop will do. And yes, "laptop". No choice, cause i need the portability and i'm always on the go. sweat.gif
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post Jun 5 2012, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jun 5 2012, 10:30 PM)
There workstation laptops if u wanna try...
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I have checked with dell precision models. And they are kinda off from my budget sad.gif or you have any good recommendations? i'm not really familiar with quadro gpus, although i know they're good.

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post Jun 14 2012, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Venycal @ Jun 12 2012, 12:37 AM)
UCSI has not received accreditation yet. I'm studying at UCSI and I attended the accreditation session when LAM came to the university a few months ago. The LAM committee said they are ready to have our School of Built Environment accredited but our facilities are still lacking. That is the primary complaint from all of the architecture students here.

The panels are satisfied with all other aspects, (e.g, Students work/Lecturers/Course Outline) except for the facilities. That is why now the University is given 2 years Conditional Accreditation. If the University manage to have its facilities meet the requirement, then we will be accredited.  nod.gif
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wait wait, So UCSI is also given the "conditional accreditation" similar to Taylors? or you're saying that university (in general) that conducts architectural programmes are given the conditional accreditation first so that their facilities can meet up with LAM requirements?

Anyway, I just submitted my portfolio to UCSI, I'm currently a diploma student hoping to continue my degree there. I heard that MQA only allows maximum of 30 credits transfer. But i guess that is almost equivalent to one year right? Anyway, hows UCSI so far? i do agree that they lack in facilities though.. been there to check around.

and I wonder if Taylors can retain their Part 1 accreditation or not.. hmm.gif
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post Jun 14 2012, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Apple @ Jun 14 2012, 07:27 PM)
July intake?
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yep, you too?
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post Jun 16 2012, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Venycal @ Jun 14 2012, 10:47 PM)
I'm not too sure whether the conditional accreditation that Taylor's received is similar to UCSI's, but from what I was told UCSI is required to improve on its facilities in order to get full accreditation. But I think we can only be sure about it when the official announcement is made by the LAM themselves.
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Hmm.. there are no news about UCSI receiving any conditional accreditation from LAM. So i doubt that they did.. But yeah, we can only wait for LAM to confirm this. Btw, which year are you in now?


QUOTE(Mr.Apple @ Jun 15 2012, 09:18 PM)
Im not sure yet, i'll be finish my diploma this july,
I don't think i can make it for july intake.
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I see, so you're planning to join the next year intake?
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post Jun 17 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(darth6 @ Jun 17 2012, 04:34 AM)
@ azarimy : i'm currently studying for BArch in Taylor's,4th sem and now that I've gone through more than half of my course,I realized that archi isn't what I want to do.

My plan is to finish this part 1,and then continue in another course. The thing is,is there any such course that is lighter than archi,but still in the building field? Meaning I would like to continue in this field and still using my part 1 cert,but not pursuing part 2.

Thank you in advance
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Hi, mind if I pm you a few questions regarding Taylors? smile.gif

QUOTE(tehtmc @ Jun 17 2012, 12:12 PM)
The question is:
Has UCSI got the accreditation though,conditional or whatever?
I don't think UCSI has gotten any of the conditional accreditation for Part 1.. No news about it.

to Azarimy, if UCSI manage to improve their facilities to meet the requirements from LAM. How long do you think it'll take for them to get accredited for Part 1? lets just assume that all is well (syllabus, students work and everything is okay) Do they still have to wait for the next review by LAM again?
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post Jul 7 2012, 12:39 AM

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Hi there again, I have another question.

A friend of mine just told me that if we're diploma holders from other institution (IPTS) and then we enter the 2nd year of Degree in an accredited IPTS (Taylors uni). Are we still entitle for their Part 1? He told me that in order for us to get the Part 1 in Taylors, we have to complete the whole 3 years instead of skipping to the 2nd year.

is this true? sad.gif

edit: lets say in this scenario, we're diploma holders from another college and want to continue our degree in Taylors.

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