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post Mar 12 2011, 05:56 PM, updated 2y ago

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I'm writing this guide as universal as possible so that anybody who's interested in pursuing this field can get a definitive idea of what to do, where to go and how. I will update this as frequent as possible. There have been several inquiries on studying architecture, so I wish I could redirect them to this topic. Although I'm attached to UTM, my intention is purely altruistic and to provide information as neutral as possible.

This is the third version of the thread. The information is annually updated to cater for the latest intake sessions.


The Architecture Profession: A Brief Introduction

1.0 What is an Architect?

Architecture is one of the oldest profession in the world. An architect is a designer of buildings. They don't actually construct them, because they have builders working for them. Architects are the leader in the construction industry, usually second only to the client or developer. They don't just design buildings, architects also take into consideration the clients needs and requirements and protects their rights.

2.0 Governing Bodies

The architecture profession in Malaysia is protected by law. The regulating and governing body of the architecture profession in Malaysia is known as Lembaga Akitek Malaysia (LAM). They govern the entire profession starting from the definition of an architect under the Malaysian Constitution, licensing, practice, acts and enactments as well as education.

The other body that concerns the well being of architects themselves is Pertubuhan Akitek Malaysia. It functions as an association that takes care of its members, organize functions and manages the professional development of an architect from the lowest to highest qualification.

3.0. Practicing Architecture

Just like Bar exam for lawyers, architects also require certain level of qualification that is a standard worldwide. The qualifications are known as LAM Part 1, 2 and 3. The equivalent of this is ARB (Architects Registration Board), AIA (American Institute of Architects) and RAIA (Royal Australian Institute of Architects). After graduating with Part 2, a person is known as an Graduate Architect, and will be able to practice according to the job specification of an architect. This should be the minimum target of anyone pursuing this profession. Anything less is a waste of time.

These qualifications can be obtained in two ways:
    i. Obtaining a fully accredited degree (or equivalent) that carries Part 1 or 2 equivalent.
    ii. Sitting for individual exams after obtaining a non-accredited degree for Part or 2.
Part 3 can only be obtained after practicing as an architect for a minimum of 2 years and fulfilling all the project requirements set by LAM. Fulfilling these needs, the architect will then submit themselves to a series of interviews and exams to determine that they are capable and absolutely qualified.

So how do one study to become an architect?

4.0. Common Paths to Studying Architecture

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List of Abbreviations:

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The diagram above illustrates, as simple as possible, the route to become an architect after SPM. There are several ways to do so, and it is totally up to the person. The choices are quite open, where students can generally study entirely in Malaysia, partly in Malaysia+overseas, or fully overseas.

Each of the choices above have its own advantage and disadvantages. This I will elaborate further in the future. Most important factors are time and money. So the next question would be: where can you study architecture?

4.1. Schools, Accreditation and Level of Qualification

LAM, supported by Malaysian Qualification Agency (MQA), frequently assesses schools (once every 5 years) in order to maintain the standard of education for architecture. New schools will need to be assessed fully before given accreditation. As I've mentioned before, to obtain Part 1 and 2 qualifications, the diploma, bachelor's or masters degree must be accredited by LAM and recognised by MQA.

You can refer to the list of accredited schools from the diagram in 4.0 above, on check directly at LAM's List of Recognised Architectural Programmes here.

Important note: In architecture education, there are two bodies awarding recognition/accreditation: MQA and LAM. MQA is responsible in ensuring that the course offered complies to the standard of awarding an academic certificate (diploma, degree etc). Not having a MQA recognition simply means the school does not comply to the standard to award a single degree, let alone an architectural degree. LAM on the other hand monitors the quality of architecture education, ensuring that a degree produces qualified architect for practice. Not having LAM accreditation means although the degree still hold value, it is not enough to allow you to become a legally licensed architect. However graduates still have the opportunity to take LAM exams independently.


4.2. Validated International Schools


Studying overseas is one of the recommended option to study architecture. It is advised that an architect to travel as much as they can, to understand other buildings, arts and cultures. I personally would recommend studying in Europe, as you can really benefit a lot from travel. The link below provides a list of validated overseas schools.

Recognised Architectural Programmes


4.3. Common Paths after Finishing Part 1


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The diagram above illustrates common paths that most architecture students with Part 1 took after finishing up their first degrees. Yellow choices indicate academic paths, and blue choices indicate work/practice paths. It is also common that students choose to work for a year or two before continuing for their Part 2. Having work experience tremendously boosts their chances to land a place in a university, not to mention the advantage of experience they have over other students who went straight from Part 1.
5.0. Planning Your Studies

5.1. SPM Subject Relevance

Due to so many questions about what subject(s) to take during SPM that would be considered relevant to architecture, I've tabled out all the SPM subjects (not including vocational subject category) and explained more or less on its relevancy to architecture education.

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    i. Subject - Subjects that have been categorized according to its similar contribution towards architecture education.
    ii. Category - Keywords of relevant knowledge or skills that is attributed to the subject in architecture education.
    iii. Description - A brief description on what the subject could contribute when studying architecture.
    iv. Relevance - The value of taking that particular subject in relation to learning architecture.
This table is not to be confused with the intake requirement for any university. This list compiles the relevance of the subjects according to the typical architecture curriculum. Meaning, not taking a "Very Relevant" subject does not put you at a disadvantage when applying for architecture compared to those taking it.

The other reason for this table is to demystify the common misconception that students need Math, AddMath, Physics and Arts in architecture, where in actual fact, those requirements are only needed when applying for the course. The purpose of this table is to provide general knowledge so anyone who just finished PMR could decide which subject they want to take for SPM in order to benefit the most during architecture education.

Updated :
(4 Jan) List of LAM Accredited International Schools
(4 Jan) Updated diagram 4.0 to include Taylor's and LUCT paths
(4 Jan) Inserted spoiler tags to keep everything tidy
(26 Jan) Inserted item 4.3: Common paths after finishing part 1
(2 Feb) Added section 5.0. Planning Your Studies
(2 Feb) Inserted diagram 5.1.
(23 Mar) Updated diagram 4.0.
(17 Dec) Updated the accreditation list
(30 Jan 08) Updated diagram 4.0 with new information and format
(30 Jan 08) Updated diagram 5.1. with new relevancy
(30 Jan 08) Inserted Architectural FAQs
(30 Jan 08) Started Version 2 of the discussions
(2 Feb 08) Updated diagram 4.0. to include Kolej Negeri, Kolej Shahputra, ITP YPJ and UCI
(2 Feb 08) Added abbreviation guide
(20 Oct 08) Added UPM into the list of LAM Part 1 Accredited Schools
(5 Apr 09) Updated diagram 4.0 with new information and format
(5 Apr 09) Added UPM and UIAM into the list of LAM Part 2 Accredited Schools
(5 Jan 10) Updated some details
(9 Apr 11) Updated diagram 4.0. Included ITPert, Kolej Laila Taib and UTM SPACE (part time). Rearranged the structure and paths.
(9 Apr 11) Updated the accredited schools list
(21 May 11) Updated UKM out of the accredited school list
(27 July 12) Updated UKM and Taylor's into accredited school list
(27 July 12) Reorganized the Architectural Paths diagram to make more sense.
(31 Jan 14) Updated Architectural Paths diagram.
(1 Feb 14) Revised and updated new information and documentations.
(5 Feb 16) Updated Architectural Paths diagram for 2016.
(5 Feb 16) Added list of abbreviations accompanying the Paths diagram.
(12 Mar 18) Updated Architectural Paths and New Abbreviation.
(13 Feb 21) Updated the text and new information in 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 including subsections.
(14 Feb 21) Updated Architectural Paths for 2021 and accompanying abbreviations.
(2 Mar 23) Updated Architectural Paths for 2023 and accompanying abbreviations.
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Architecture FAQs

1.0. Planning Towards Architecture as a Profession

1.1. Planning your route to architecture

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1.2. Where to study?

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1.3. Switching to architecture

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1.4. Financing your studies

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1.5. Accreditation, Recognition and Qualification Issues

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1.6. Applying to a school of architecture

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1.7. School specific questions

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2.0. Architecture Education

2.1. Studying architecture

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2.2. Subjects and topics offered

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2.3. Skills and abilities

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2.5. References on architecture education

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2.6. University life in Malaysia

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3.0. POST ARCHITECTURE EDUCATION

3.1. Prospects after studies

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3.2. About the profession and industry

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QUOTE(bayleef10 @ Mar 12 2011, 12:49 PM)
woah, i'm glad tht this thread is opened again. btw i wanna know tht for UTM, does UTMn accept matrikulasi perakaunan qualification? thx
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as answered in the previous thread, yes we do. but u will be competing with those from other matriculations as well, meaning apart from ur cgpa, u must have a substantial amount of portfolio to boost.
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UTM is 5 years. where got 4 years?
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QUOTE(bayleef10 @ Mar 14 2011, 03:04 AM)
my fren's sister told my mum it's 4yrs =_= i'm also confused
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i'm currently teaching the course and u're referring to ur friend's sister? i is sad for mareshian.
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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Mar 15 2011, 03:23 AM)
UTM SPACE programme is not accredited.  There will be no end if you were to include all the unaccredited programmes.

Wright was from the nineteeth century.
Nowadays, there are also many without qualification(Part III and registered) who practice architecture, that is if they can find a qualified architect to be the 'submitting person'.  Strictly, it is against the law but is being done.
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well, UTM main programme accreditation have expired last october, and the accreditation will commence this may. technically due to this lapse, UTM is no more visible in the PAM list of accredited schools.

to answer why SPACE was not in my original list: i simply forgot to add it in lol.
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sorry, i meant LAM list of accredited schools. u may check now and u will not find UTM there wink.gif.

UTM's main programme will be accredited this may, while SPACE programme will be end of this year.

in my diagram above, i've listed both accredited and non-accredited schools. the reason why UTM SPACE was not on the list have been given in my previous post.
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QUOTE(ksquared90 @ Mar 17 2011, 11:13 AM)
Dear azarimy,I've applied for UTM architecture for this coming intake,but it's stated that this course is an 8-semester long course,which is equivalent to 4 years right? Please clear my mind on that.
Besides that, are most assignments individual or paired/group?
I've gone through this and the previous architecture threads and it seems that the aptitude test is really tough. Im especially worried about the drawing skills part because i dont draw well,not that i dont like it. Any advice if i do get called for the interview?
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i. UTM degree have always been 10 semesters long, while the dipploma is always 6 semesters. the only 8-semester long course is UiTM, but's for SPM intake. so it must be an error on UPU side.

ii. assignments/projects can be of individual, paired or group format. i can say equally proportionate to each other.

iii. if u've done enough IQ tests, quizzes and stuff like that, the aptitude test is freakingly EASY. but if u cant utilize logic, then i'm sorry, u're not suitable for us tongue.gif. on the drawing part... well, do ur best. that's all i can say. and finally, on the interview part: all u need is a good attitude and a lot of confidence. dont try to predict questions. just go with the flow. we (the interviewers) can be extremely creative. so watch out wink.gif.
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QUOTE(Bonetoad @ Mar 23 2011, 03:31 PM)
I'm not 100% sure, but I do think this is what it means:

Seni Bina - Architecture
Perancangan dan ukur - Planning and Surveying/Measuring
Seni Lukis - Illustration
Seni Reka - Design

If Seni Lukis & Seni Reka in 1 sentence then it means - Arts & Design
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that's spot on.

and to answer the new question, yes, it means university specific foundation programme. some IPTAs have started to offer foundation programmes, but i've not seen anyone successfully applied to an IPTA using a foundation from a different one. meaning UIAM's foundation is only valid for studies in UIAM, UM's for UM, UiTM for UiTM and so on.

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QUOTE(yansheng91 @ Mar 23 2011, 04:36 PM)
DEAR SIR ,
I HAVE FEW QUESTION TO ASK .

1) Does the diploma in architecture UTM offered by the kolej shahputra is genuinely from UTM ?

2) AFTER I GRADUATED FROM THE DIPLOMA IN ARCHITECTURE IN THIS KOLEJ , COULD I CONTINUE MY DEGREE IN ARCHITECTURE IN UTM ?

THE DIPLOMA COURSE IS 3 YEARS .
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1. yes, it's genuinely from UTM. the examination papers are graded by UTM lecturers themselves. shahputra teach, we grade.

2. yes.

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QUOTE(bayleef10 @ Mar 24 2011, 09:52 AM)
is architecture considered as social science?
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yes. but it is also built environment and design. it depends on how a university would categorize them. u can see that some schools award a BSc in Architecture, others give a BA in architecture. still the same thing wink.gif.

QUOTE(yen2009 @ Mar 24 2011, 10:40 AM)
Thanks for solution, now going to search for the BSN and PTPTN related thread in the forum ASAP since 4th April is the last date for July intake so I've to make it fast.

Just wondering that if I can take my Diploma in university like Laila (I'm a Sarawakian and they provide 'free' or I should rather say a cheaper cost to obtain Diploma for Sarawakians) and then I transfer myself to peninsular for LAM-recognized IPTA like UiTM would affect my further study to Bachelor position since LAM don't recognize Laila (Or do they?).
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LAM do not recognize diploma from laila taib. actually LAM do not recognize ANY diploma from anywhere except the old, discontinued ITM diploma (part 1). but that doesnt mean u cant apply. u still can, but it is up to the target university to determine where u should join: 1st year or 2nd year. the decision will be based on the credit transfer amount and ur portfolio.

QUOTE(yansheng91 @ Mar 24 2011, 04:53 PM)
AFTER THE DIPLOMA , WHEN WANNA APPLY INTO BACHELOR OF ARCH IN UTM , STILL NEED INTERVIEW ?
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yes, unless u're from UTM diploma (KL). UTM interviews everyone bcoz of the sheer number applying each year.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 25 2011, 01:04 AM)
Any help here?
Thanks!
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IPTAs only recognize A-levels for foreign students, with the exception of UIAM. if u're local but did A-levels, ur only option now is to join IPTS.
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okay enough with the caps. your keyboard broken or something?

if shahputra to UTM, u will join at 2nd year unless u score a whole bunch of subjects.

this weekend (saturday and sunday) is UTM open day. come drop by in skudai and i'll give u a tour about how to land a place here. that goes to all of u interested in UTM's architecture.
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QUOTE(waie @ Mar 25 2011, 07:11 PM)
I scored average ''bad'' in SPM but manage to get 5 credits in BM, English, Sej, P.Islam, and Maths. Any chances for me to go for architectural foundation in UTM or any other uni?

Add Ons : I went to UTM's website and checked out how to apply for Diploma in Architectural thru online and it stated there to go to UPU's website to apply. When I go to UPU website, there's no option for UTM's diploma in Architectural
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UTM do not offer any foundation programmes. only UIAM and UM. do check the requirements at their respective websites wink.gif.

diploma in architecture, UTM is listed under the SPACE full-time programme, not under faculty of built environment. do check again.
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QUOTE(yen2009 @ Mar 26 2011, 09:16 AM)
You did recommend STPM as the best route to oversea Architecture, how about local? Cause I would prefer more experience exposure to Architecture (Diploma) than education (STPM).

Does replacing Diploma with STPM means I skipped a lot of Architecture basics when advancing to Bachelor through STPM path?

How's your opinion in this case since the government prefers STPM students nowadays.
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i always recommend STPM above all else as it gives the widest option available for ur studies. it also is a good fallback should u decide architecture is NOT for u. architecture has the highest drop out rate, so it's always go to have a fallback option.

if u're talking about UTM, then it's not much of a difference between diploma and STPM. basically what u learned in 3 years diploma will be covered in the first 2 years of degree. yeah, it's a bit more compressed, but doesnt mean it's more hectic. but it is always up to u. the diploma gives u option to bail out after 3 years. taking the 5 year degree after STPM means u dont have any options should u wish to quit wink.gif.
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QUOTE(yen2009 @ Mar 26 2011, 11:00 PM)
I see, cause people are telling me that going for Laila then Bachelor in peninsular university may disrupt my path.

And since you said the basics would be covered in the early years so I may be taking a safer path which is STPM. smile.gif
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it wont disrupt ur path, but might make it harder.


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QUOTE(rowreige4869 @ Mar 28 2011, 12:06 PM)
which university i should apply to get diploma in architecture? UTM or UiTM. my friend suggest i take UiTM. but as to my research there is no diploma in architecture in UiTM only in UTM and UIAM. I really want to be architect but i don't know where to start. which are the university that can help me pursuing my dream. and i a bit worried about the interview. i have kind talent in drawing but not as good as other who learn art and design in teknik school. help me please!! let me know when the time you online. i want to add you in ym. if you can add me that really helpful. my ym is "rowreige4869@yahoo.com"  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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as i've mentioned earlier, UiTM do not offer diploma anymore, and neither do UIAM. i'm only aware UIAM offering foundation, but not diploma. and there's a big difference between those two.

and i dont do YM or any messengers anymore. better use the forums as i can get online as i please to answer ur questions, rather than stuck in front of a PC waiting for people to come in for a chat wink.gif. i'm paid by the hour u know, time is precious tongue.gif.



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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Mar 29 2011, 04:35 AM)
Just curious...what is the rate like?  wink.gif tongue.gif

It seems SPM leavers are inclined to go for foundation and diploma route rather the tradional  pre-U/STPM route.  Easier route you reckon?

I'd think STPM is more intellectually challenging, having been time-tested for decades.
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about RM25 per hour only (gomen rate). but if we're invited to give lectures outside the university etc, the fee is RM200 per hour. unfortunately we dont get invited alot. yet... wink.gif

this year it seems people are so inclined to get their hands dirty. remember a couple of years back people are all going for degree straight away? i dont understand these kids lol. or perhaps it's bcoz SPM results just came out. is STPM out yet?

i'm always recommending STPM. no argument there.

QUOTE(youhesh @ Mar 29 2011, 07:28 AM)
i recently just went to UTM Skudai for the jom masuk u booths in pesta konvo . and i did get a pamplet of Fakulti Alam Bina . when i tried to apply in the upu form , it did say something about passing an interview . so do i need to attend the interview and pass it in order to study architecture in UTM ?

i think it'll be easier for me to study there since my sis and bro are studying engineering in that same u . btw , i was studying in science stream . i never took arts or LKJ . so im not pretty sure if im really qualified and have what it takes to study architecture . i decide on architecture because i like to draw . well , i've never drawn any buildings btw . -__-''

and after taking the personality test , the counselor mentioned that im quite the artistic type . so i figured out maybe architecture is a good choice . but my results not that good . and is it hard studying in the architecture stream ? because none in my family is an architect or took architecture before .

TQ .
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yes, u would need to pass the interview. it's been that way since UTM first started.

art or LK is not a requirement for application. but we do require that u have the ability and interest to draw. btw, during the visit, didnt the officer point u to FAB? bcoz i could've convince u better, as i was incharge at the main exhibition for the faculty, particularly with all the sample works being exhibited.

architecture might be hard at first, but it'll get harder as u go along lol. but it's not as hard as medicine or law. so no worries.

QUOTE(Fern0922 @ Mar 29 2011, 09:57 AM)
Hi guys, I'm currently taking Bachelor of Landscape Architecture. Want to ask a question, French and German, which language is easier and more useful in landscape architecture field? Thanks!
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do u plan to go to germany or france? coz if u're not, i would say mandarin is better.
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QUOTE(rowreige4869 @ Mar 29 2011, 11:56 AM)
where and when will the interview conduct by UTM for diploma in architecture? for 2011^^
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i dont know. the schedule is not out yet.
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just so u know, taking UTM diploma is almost a surefire way to gain a place in UTM degree. for the past few years, the intake from UTM diploma is about 90% (between 25-30 students). the other 10% went elsewhere, usually overseas. all u need is a 3.00 minimum.

so if u're already set for an architectural degree, perhaps diploma is a good way to go. most of my colleagues' children went that way anyways. i dont think a single one of them went to STPM.

but the choice is still urs, of course.

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