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post May 30 2011, 11:18 PM

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hello ive stumbled upon this blog saying that what should we do in order to proceed to our desired rank/position, where should we go to further study oversea or locally. It just bothers me as I would like to further my studies locally, but from what the blog explains that if we want to progress ourself to become more 'free of thinking' or in other word more creative, the way is to further study oversea, not locally, can somebody help me clarify this?

http://nikreached.wordpress.com/2011/05/30...-should-you-go/

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post May 31 2011, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 30 2011, 11:33 PM)
there are some truth in what he has said. but i wouldnt say it in the strictest sense. yes, going abroad expands your perspective. but doesn't mean you cant do it locally, albeit with less opportunities on that. normally it boils down to the environment you're studying in, the people you study with, and those teaching you.

on environment part, local schools offer it well, sometimes even better than overseas schools.

on peers, well, this is pretty limited when we're talking locally. you'll be stuck with the same people with the same, typical malaysian mindset.

on teachers, there are numerous to choose from: those trained locally to those trained abroad. u will notice considerable difference between how they approach education.

so, aside from the peers factor, we can still reach the international standard. so now it boils down to u. would u be able to improve by putting ur mates aside?
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yeah,but the thought he puts do scare me to study locally, i didnt have the privilege to study abroad, but to think of it making me somewhat skeptical, im working right now before furthering into part2,

and i can see exactly what he said, the employer demands us (me rolleyes.gif ) to works overtime just to show that you're in the right path to become full fledge architect, and his ideas of successful design is to just throw every information be it in green strategies, innovation etc just to show that youve put enough work into it and claim that we deserve that project because of this.

it somewhat clouded my thinking, better create something that is workable although it might seem simple at first right? rather than having an extravagant ideas with all infos and all possible technology there is and throw all of it in the design boards.

more focus unto one thing, rather than shooting bullets into all direction.

happens to me and my mates especially during competition for a tender or just a competition. and blaming us for not winning... no for not even get mentioned(our project) in any of the event/competitions

and i think for a people like me to experience what those oversea graduates have experience is to work under a small/medium but design oriented firms like ZLG who practise more on designing rather than more on how much product you have done/completed

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post May 31 2011, 10:51 AM

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well thx azarimy, that really explain the lots of it, maybe experience is the better teacher, but the place to gain that experience matters to me now, whether im gonna stay in one company and learn everything there is, or gaining bits here and there by jumping from one comp to another. I just didnt want to be stuck as a worker ant, and i enjoy doing what i love be it designing, visualizing or meeting people
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post May 31 2011, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(tehtmc @ May 31 2011, 12:02 PM)
Working short stints in different firms does not really help much in terms of gaining experience. You need to work for at least 2-3 years at a firm to get some worthwhile experience. Building projects are such that you don't see the full picture unless you get involved long enough. You experience will not be complete if you don't get be involved in the nitty-gritty of details to make a design work. 

Learn everything there is?  I don't think it is possible.
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well you are right. maybe needed more than a year to actually able to pick up something. but the thing is right now ive been working for about a year and so far for me, ive not learnt much from it, when i try to compare it with my other friends who graduated at the same time i can see that they know a lot more than what I'm now.

My work in my office were always doing the same thing that i have already good at, and because of it they keep on giving me jobs doing 3ds and visualizing all the time never had chance to do maybe some construction dwgs, or any detail work.Even worse the webpage of the company were handed down to me in charge of it, I feel im the IT guy in there and when i ask to have more part in doing other type of jobs they somewhat diss me like ignoring my request. the only thing that i get a chance to learn at it by asking to other seniors and that is for sure not enough.

and now im thinking maybe its time for me to change firm.
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post Oct 27 2011, 04:04 PM

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ive receive calling to attend an interview for part 2 intake in UPM, so I just want to ask here... what sort of question are they gonna ask you.. i need to prepare for it.. because im very bad in giving spontaneous answer to every question. at least what i should expect from the interviewer hmm.gif hmm.gif

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post Oct 30 2011, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(kuanming86 @ Oct 28 2011, 12:03 PM)
i'm going to attend their interview as well.
for this coming 2nd of nov right ?
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yes this coming 2 nov... i hope i can get in despite having a not so good results in part 1.... damn im really- really disappointed with myself.. hope this coming interview i can ace it.

your interview is at what time ??
what did you bring for your portfolio?


another question for forumer's here

where can i get used or cheap architecture related books?
i cant afford to buy one, my solution right now is to photocopy it..

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post Nov 4 2011, 10:37 AM

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im also at 9 am... im one of the first to get inside the interview room... seems like i didnt get it.. sad.gif
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post Dec 16 2011, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Bonetoad @ Dec 16 2011, 12:36 PM)
Thanks, but I have mastered both software including 3dsmax+vray, rhino+grasshopper, photoshop and illustrator. I did graphic design since I was 14 years old, worked for 2 years in an archi firm, then did freelance for architectural projects till now. I'm also learning Revit right now.

Besides that what I want now is some reading materials. Would be nice if you guys can recommend some good ones. Cheers.
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any books from renown architects which didnt have any/much pictures in it, laugh.gif
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post Dec 30 2011, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Dec 20 2011, 04:46 PM)


Can't imagine reading a book about an architect which does not have pictures.
I thought a picture is worth more than a thousand words especially when you talk about physical things like buildings. rolleyes.gif
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this where you can see how the architect really think, good architect some times can become a good writer. oscar niemeyer for example, is a good writer and music composer. if you limit your thinking that architect is just the one who design buildings, then thats the only limit that you can achieve. brows.gif brows.gif
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post Dec 31 2011, 10:07 PM

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i got an interview for master uitm, so what i have to do to impress them? portfolio is not enough i think, pls help
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post Jan 2 2012, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(aviatordude @ Jan 2 2012, 01:34 AM)
I am going into final sem of my third year in a local private university in Klang Valley.. Despite getting maintaining a >3.6 CGPA, I perceive myself as seeming to fall behind in terms of my conceptual and analytical thinking, as well as understanding of the architecture profession as a whole. I have no pride of (and sometimes despise) my work, feeling that some of my colleagues who have put in more effort deserves the grade I am getting.

I also feel that grades are a poor representation of a person's performance in the architecture course, and more often than not is heavily related to favoritism practiced by professors/lecturers.

Am I the only one feeling this way? How do you get over this phase?
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do it because you love it, and dont care about grades. or what other peoples thinking of you.
i know its sound very naive. but i follow this rule. and thats why i got 2.96 for my degree... your performance must not focused only during education period but through you whole career. thats what i think/opinion

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post Jan 2 2012, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Bonetoad @ Jan 2 2012, 02:16 PM)
Happened to me all the time. Our final presentation marking rubic clearly stated that 40% (more or less, can't really remember the exact amount) of the marks comes from our presentation board. A friend of mine was given A+ when she didn't even have any presentation board. No drawings, no photos.. basically nothing. To get an A+ we need to score atleast 90%. Since then i couldn't careless about the markings. I did way better when working and was paid higher compared to her.
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during working application, some of the criteria that employer require is a flair in design. but those thing are very subjective. and studio work doesnt teach you that instead theyre focusing on how to solve the problem/criteria. i guess you cant teach flair in design because those are unique to each and everybody
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post Jan 10 2012, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(mrBuLuKoreK @ Jan 10 2012, 04:11 PM)
well, for me it is still a long way since I just got accepted to pursue my PartII and hopefully will  try for partIII after I gained experience in the next future.  tongue.gif
btw, I heard some of IPTA's offers international recognition such as RIBA/RAIA once we completed their course. Can u name the institutional?? and how on earth if others want to get the recognition??as Im aware UPM only had LAM part1 n 2 recognized.
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well congratulations to you, i didnt get in UPM cry.gif cry.gif

part 3 were done by exam by the Board
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post Jan 10 2012, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(mrBuLuKoreK @ Jan 10 2012, 09:24 PM)
oo really??did u went for the interview oso??guess we already met there. Nvm mate, u can always re-apply or I supposed application for overseas uni are open, mind to try???and I wish u all the best thumbup.gif
yeah~I did heard about it somewhere before. But I yet to find/know peoples with first hand experience smile.gif
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im just waiting for interview uitm master, id really hope i could get in, anyways did you guys know any other thing to do or said to impress the interviewer? other than showing your portfolio or your working experience?

anyone?
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post Jan 11 2012, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 11 2012, 09:52 AM)
on interviews, u should have one thing in mind: what do i have that others don't?

that question is crucial as it establishes u apart from the rest of the group. it could be ur public speaking skills, ur articulation of architectural vocabularies, vast experiences and/or exposures, or it could boil down to 1st impression, attire, poise and swagger.

there isnt really one thing that people look for. that's why they conduct interviews. they're looking for 'what else?'. they know ur academic achievements. chances are, they already know u by calling the previous schools and speaking to ur supervisor/lecturers. u need to make an impression.

i've conducted interviews many times before. most people just sit there and wait to be asked. when asked, they usually answer in the most straightforward reply possible, with language command that would make all the linguists proud. but then they just stop, satisfied with the answer. interviews are more like a conversation. YOU may ask questions as well.
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ok thanks alot, maybe ill talk about my love for blogging( architecture related ), and designing it, certain book that i read to prepare for the course. maybe some renderings that i do during spare time. movies that i like?!

so how do i engage to start the conversation?
do i just babble everything about me?
or started out by just asking a question about the program?

because last time during previous interview, the one that i apply for diploma UiTM ages ago, i remember i started a conversation about uitm being for bumiputera only, ended up to be about how uitm student didnt have enough exposure for this and that and all sort, and making the interview skid away from it main objective. that is i was afraid of a bit.

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post Jan 11 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 11 2012, 10:29 AM)
well, u can choose a safer topic, like what sort of architecture that u like and all. or maybe architectural events that u've been to, like the architectural workshops or PAM students exhibitions.

u dont have to be over-peramah in that sense. just dont let the conversation die down and produce those awkward moments. always have a safe question on standby, where u can fill in those gaps. take control.

for example:

i. UiTM already obtained RIBA. how has it changed the school?
ii. can i specialize when i do my masters?
iii. i like model making. is the facilities for it there?

or stuff like that. just safe questions to fill in the awkward moments.
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thank you very much for the heads up.. will use this biggrin.gif
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post Jan 18 2012, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(kenn91 @ Jan 15 2012, 06:02 PM)
hey guys. am new in this thread. Am currently studying for my diploma in Equator Academy of Arts and am gonna further my studies in Australia for my degree mid year. Possibly the closest intake to my diploma graduation which would be in April 2011. Any recommendation in Universities? Am having Curtin and Tasmania in mind. Tasmania is offering an international scholarship for a 25% rebate of yearly tuition fees if am not mistaken. Any comments???
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tasmania's seems like a good place to study got a few friends studying there, if you are able to live in a place with nothing much to do and just concentrating on studies, it should be a fine fine place for you.
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post Jan 19 2012, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Bonetoad @ Jan 19 2012, 07:47 AM)
I'm currently at Tasmania smile.gif
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then you must know ann gie and clifford
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post Jan 21 2012, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(kazasho @ Jan 21 2012, 03:43 AM)
Im pleased to announce that our team is currently developing UBBL in iOS app. Hopefully finished by February 2012. if u are around shah alam by the end of this month, come to UiTM archi review to check our final projects and to test my app.

Eventhough Im an archi student, (Im graduating, yeay!) Im really appreciated to have the opportunity to dev an app. Thanks to MDeC and MSC Malaysia.

If anybody of you interested, there is another round of pitching session but for android platform. deadline by 27 Jan 2012.

check it here.

http://tinyurl.com/icon2register
http://tinyurl.com/icon2faq


Added on January 21, 2012, 3:45 am

there is an art shop called Win's Art at Kelana Jaya near LimKokWing. though, last time I went there is 4 years ago
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an app for UBBL should be awesome tool.
since you are from uitm, when will the result for master's degree intake to come out?
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post Jan 21 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(Bonetoad @ Jan 21 2012, 12:40 PM)
Sorry but i don't know them  hmm.gif
Degree around 120 while masters is half of that
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i guess theres a lot of malaysian there biggrin.gif

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