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Lucas30
post Oct 8 2011, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Ryan Soo @ Oct 8 2011, 02:25 AM)
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One of the main factor that turn OFF potential employer to shortlist you for interview
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Maybe I should clarifies job hopper refer to at least minimum 2 years stay. With my experiences of job hopping, it does not turn off employer if u can protray the required skills. In this emerging and radical change of organization, employer indeed had diversed their business and in need candidates that have diverse background and initiative to challenge. In order to gain these skills, staying in an organization will limiting individual potential and exposure. Individual should explore more challenge that out of the scope what u are doing now. Ex: from logistic to HR, customer service to HR, this are example of challenges that I meant. Most of the people will not willing to step into this diversify career because they are doubts with their competency and stay @ comfort zone.

I had encouraged plenty of 20's and 40's peers to take up diverse role when given opportunities. Business recruitment nowadays is not targeting @ specialization skills of an individual, but the diversed exposure skills that able to assist or emerge the skills to multiple industries.

When I judge a candidate, specialized a same job for 10 years does not impress me, rather a multiple 3-4 jobs skills in 10 years definite impress me.
I do not force individual to follow, but that is the emerging industry is toward in near future.
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post Oct 8 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas30 @ Oct 8 2011, 10:50 AM)
Maybe I should clarifies job hopper refer to at least minimum 2 years stay. With my experiences of job hopping, it does not turn off employer if u can protray the required skills. In this emerging and radical change of organization, employer indeed had diversed their business and in need candidates that have diverse background and initiative to challenge. In order to gain these skills, staying in an organization will limiting individual potential and exposure. Individual should explore more challenge that out of the scope what u are doing now. Ex: from logistic to HR, customer service to HR, this are example of challenges that I meant. Most of the people will not willing to step into this diversify career because they are doubts with their competency and stay @ comfort zone.

I had encouraged plenty of 20's and 40's peers to take up diverse role when given opportunities. Business recruitment nowadays is not targeting @ specialization skills of an individual, but the diversed exposure skills that able to assist or emerge the skills to multiple industries.

When I judge a candidate, specialized a same job for 10 years does not impress me, rather a multiple 3-4 jobs skills in 10 years definite impress me.
I do not force individual to follow, but that is the emerging industry is toward in near future.
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Not applicable to all industries.
The industry I'm working for now (telecommunication) is however against whatever you have suggested above.
We are quite particular if the candidate is a job hopper though he/she might have learnt few different skills during the transaction.
However, we believe this set of skills is not learnt in a full spectrum manner because of the short tenure in the particular company. Half-bucket knowledge.

Unless the person shows that he/she deserves the position, before hiring him/her, we will first do serious reference check to understand more on the previous employments.
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post Oct 8 2011, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas30 @ Oct 8 2011, 10:50 AM)
Maybe I should clarifies job hopper refer to at least minimum 2 years stay. With my experiences of job hopping, it does not turn off employer if u can protray the required skills. In this emerging and radical change of organization, employer indeed had diversed their business and in need candidates that have diverse background and initiative to challenge. In order to gain these skills, staying in an organization will limiting individual potential and exposure. Individual should explore more challenge that out of the scope what u are doing now. Ex: from logistic to HR, customer service to HR, this are example of challenges that I meant. Most of the people will not willing to step into this diversify career because they are doubts with their competency and stay @ comfort zone.

I had encouraged plenty of 20's and 40's peers to take up diverse role when given opportunities. Business recruitment nowadays is not targeting @ specialization skills of an individual, but the diversed exposure skills that able to assist or emerge the skills to multiple industries.

When I judge a candidate, specialized a same job for 10 years does not impress me, rather a multiple 3-4 jobs skills in 10 years definite impress me.
I do not force individual to follow, but that is the emerging industry is toward in near future.
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Not applicable to the IT industry, unless you specialize in the "dying but not dead" software/programming languages or reporting.
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post Oct 8 2011, 05:22 PM

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Job hopping is a double edged sword.

It's how the company sees you on which side. (Advantage like what Lucas30 mentioned or disadvantage like the rest mentioned)

I do think most companies don't favour job hoppers.

I just started my 4th job in 6 years. rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by westcoastbay: Oct 8 2011, 05:28 PM
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post Oct 8 2011, 09:11 PM

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I will try to give my job life at least 5 years to achieve what is best out of me. Two years maybe too short to perform and give everythings you know and can do for a organizaTion. Yes , change do happen, we need to adapt to it and not to escape instead. think is just my point of view, really depend on individual.
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post Oct 8 2011, 11:36 PM

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Changed job/company 5 times in 10 years, salary increased 50% from previous company every change.
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QUOTE(propriete @ Oct 8 2011, 11:36 PM)
Changed job/company 5 times in 10 years, salary increased 50% from previous company every change.
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post Oct 9 2011, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(propriete @ Oct 8 2011, 11:36 PM)
Changed job/company 5 times in 10 years, salary increased 50% from previous company every change.
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can you show the figure ?
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post Oct 9 2011, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(kokmun2917 @ Oct 9 2011, 01:43 PM)
can you show the figure ?
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I should rephrase, my 5th company, changed 4 times, each change average 50-60%.

Started with 3xxx, now 2xxxx.

My experience is to hop in the same industry, comfortably different but complementary position.
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post Oct 9 2011, 05:03 PM

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in certain IT fields such as service desk (helpdesk), if you don't hop, the only thing you can do is sit there waiting boss giving you chances, which depends on various other parameters including non-performance related (office politics)

for young people under the age of 30, it is encouraged to hop between jobs at reasonable interval, time is more precious than money at this point in life. If you find that your boss can't provide the opportunities you want, and that you have reached saturation in your learned stuff, then it's time to move on.

gain different exposure, learn both technical and management skills, make it as rojak as possible, is one of the path leading to becoming a manager.

I somewhat feel that, the more specialized you are in certain field, the harder it will be for you to start your own business, should you want to be your own boss one day wink.gif
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post Oct 9 2011, 10:51 PM

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If I earn SGD3K in Singapore, what is the likely corresponding pay back in Malaysia?

50% more of 3K in Ringgit? Double? More than double?

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post Oct 10 2011, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(Lucas30 @ Oct 7 2011, 06:57 PM)
Yes u can. Be job hopper and do not stagnant with ur work too long.
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Do you mind sharing the pros and cons in being a job hopper?

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post Oct 10 2011, 02:33 AM

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I wondering how much will Designer(Advertising/Graphic/Multimedia) get pay in fresh grad because I saw most of you who are good paid was working as IT.
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QUOTE(nana_crystal @ Oct 10 2011, 02:33 AM)
I wondering how much will Designer(Advertising/Graphic/Multimedia) get pay in fresh grad because I saw most of you who are good paid was working as IT.
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Around 2k I think. But most companies will give you less. Unless of course if you can double as IT officer.

However, it usually depends on how experience you are and how good are your artwork.

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post Oct 10 2011, 10:43 AM

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hi guys, just wondering is it worth to work as contract staff at Huawei?
bcos i worry the losing job later once the contract expired...

assumed my monthly salary RM5000 included basic, allowances, incentive, OT, and others...
so i should request how much if contract term?

This post has been edited by gkl83: Oct 10 2011, 10:47 AM
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post Oct 10 2011, 11:32 AM

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Probably RM6.5k or more
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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Oct 10 2011, 11:32 AM)
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Probably RM6.5k or more
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post Oct 10 2011, 11:34 AM

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i was almost kena in recent company retrenchment, already applied over 20-30 jobs recently. Just last friday, my boss asked me to stay, but knowing that the company is not financially stable, was thinking whether i shud stay for the meantime or continue searching for job.?
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post Oct 10 2011, 11:37 AM

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Stay for the meantime while continue searching for other jobs.

If you know your boat is sinking, you going to stay on it until it sinks or look for an alternative?

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post Oct 10 2011, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Oct 10 2011, 11:37 AM)
Stay for the meantime while continue searching for other jobs.

If you know your boat is sinking, you going to stay on it until it sinks or look for an alternative?

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yeah, i was thinking the same, still searching now until i get the right one. Other than the financial instability, everything is good in this company.

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