i want to inquiry about the bonus issues...

assumed i planned to resign when October but company will provide contractual bonus (wasn't performance bonus) when December... the company is well-known by everyone and big enough with ISO standard...
Do i still able to get 10 months pro-rate contractual bonus from the company after the resignation?


This post has been edited by gkl83: Jun 14 2011, 01:53 PM

but thought contractual bonus should be some sort of "fixed" bonus or aka salary?
if performance bonus will variable and company can decide to pay or not depend how much company earned...

hi guys, just wondering is it worth to work as contract staff at Huawei?
bcos i worry the losing job later once the contract expired...

assumed my monthly salary RM5000 included basic, allowances, incentive, OT, and others...
so i should request how much if contract term?

This post has been edited by gkl83: Oct 10 2011, 10:47 AM

understood...

actually we talking about salary whether is underpaid or overpaid...

it is the salary we talking here is just only the basic salary only?
or total salary with included with other allowances, incentives, etc?

bcos mine is underpaid is basic salary only,
but if included the allowances, incentives, and others then the total salary still in the acceptable range

actually one of recruitment agency called me, she trying to help me to get another 25% from current basic salary and request the customer offer me such salary range... but still that 25% increase still lower than my total income if included allowance, incentives, others (show in pay slip)... that why a bit fulamak that whether i able to request the new expected salary range (basis + allowance) which is higher than my current incomes...

My principal company trying to dig my to join with them and head of company seem interested to hire me after long discussion...

Age: 28 (year 1983)
Job Title : Per Sales Engineer / Support (currently in engineering / technical field)
Job Desciption : None. Just interviewed and offered.
Location: PJ (around Digital Mall SS14)
Years spent in company : No joined yet
Company : SEA company (Partially MNC company)
Industry : Telecommunication + IT network
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Unknown
Experience before joining : 5 years exactly
Salary : RM4500 (basic) + RM600 (travel allowance) + other allowances & benefit

Is it worth to join them?

This post has been edited by gkl83: Dec 8 2011, 12:35 AM

total household income (husband & wife) for a family, RM7000 is JUST enough only to survive in KL if have commitment on car loan, house loan, kids expenses, medical, insurance, instalment, other maintenance, etc etc etc...

anyway, can anyone advise worth to join my principal company to ensure the offered salary & working experience is worth that much of salary...

perhaps you should widen your contacts on your industry / field...
so it allowing other companies able to know your capabilities thru the introduction in between...

Any possibility for negotiation to offer me with higher pay? maybe another RM200-300 due to the congestion & distance concerned...

anyway, i unsure whether it is good move to convert my job from technical to sales as i dont have any experiences in pre sales support before... but of cos i did some sales documentation before for tendering purpose or handover document... worry i cant cater to pre sales support position even though the boss dont mind for me to learn from beginning as they have sufficient information & documents to assist me for pre sales preparation... but still i prefer to make a move to other job envinronment as i'm no willing to stick with technical only forever...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Dec 9 2011, 01:55 PM

I experienced most of the company operations, from stock purchase to stock sales, from account/credit control to warehouse/logistics... no issues for me as i guiding my new office administrator & sales person too to handle the company operations & documentation even though i'm just a engineer... hence i dont have any manager on top of me and i report direct to my boss for any matters, learn quite number of management skills from my boss... so my personal capabilities wasn't issues as i'm a multi tasker as i informed to interviewer and i'm keen to adopt to different environment (example an engineer to handle company management operations )... hence my boss no doubt on my capabilities (my boss "verbal-promise" to offer me another RM500 after knowing that I look for better career opportunities) and that why my principal asking me to join their company since i deal with them quite some times even though screwed them before...

as the statement above, i agreed our personal problems wasn't a concern of employers but asking for additional RM200-300 for my own transportation cost... example i got offers RM4500 at Klang & RM5000 at KL (same job scope) but i staying at Klang, most probably i will end up with Klang instead as the traffic between KL & Klang is nightmare... FYI, i work at hartamas last 5 years ago, even 8-10pm also will jam at Sprint highway with RM2k salary that time, RM7-10 per meal (lunch), expensive parking fees... lesson learnt, end the job after 2 weeks and get nearer job, same salary but allowing me to save some petrol & meal expenses in order to get a new car instead...

interviewer said that their company have variety of benefit / subsidy, but still i prefer to waiting for his offer letter to check out the staff benefit before any salary negotiation...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Dec 9 2011, 07:02 PM

At least capabilities able assist me to obtain higher pay to cover some loss and own excuse... that y I work hard and keep learning at my current company while my physical body still allowing me to do so Anyway, quite normal that most of ppl will request higher pay based on their living style...

if work at oversea, quite normal to be offer USD 2000+ easily
such as my junior colleage (22 years old with local university diploma only) just got an offer from telecommunication company which will send him to China later if he success short-listed after local training , he will be offer USD2200 if he went to China...

according to my boss, one of his relative working at oversea (europe area i think) too and offered around USD5000 due to his experiences...

It depend the profit margin between the product cost and selling price... It the profit margin is 100% (example cost price rm100,selling price rm200), u should get the commision around 5%... But still commission rate may vary on different companies and owners.

This post has been edited by gkl83: Dec 10 2011, 12:19 PM

What kind of products u selling?consumeable or no consumeable?Is those kind of sales will repeat daily?weekly?monthly?how abt the cost of tranporation fees to collect and delivery?how abt cost of ur management team?any pre sales support provided or after sales service support or warranty provided?

U cant conclude the profit margin is 100% and u should get more comission since your company paying u basic and allowances. It still depend on company's profit&loss and financial condition.

Actually the experience of on site support is much more better than the experience of off site support... U can fit in help desk postion easily if u have on site experinces; but u difficult to find in engineer position if u only have off site experiences... Exampls like engineer can convert to sales position if good in PR but sales executive diffiult convert to technical position due to take time to gain knowledge...

Means those customer are existing which is maintain by ur management and company assigned u to follow up their existing customer base... So sound like is a junior sales executive to learn ur company product fr existing projects... Same as ur parents giving u food only but u feed urself...

unless u capable to look for new customer base and able to provide the suitable new equipment replcament according customer requirments then u may request higher pay since u able to find food for ur parents that moments

spent for 5 years for rojak work only is quite long...
i believe ur company doesnt appreciate your existence too as your job can be take over by other staffs easily...

for mine, work as engineer for 5+ years but also doing rojak work included take over my ex-manager's job for 3+ years... but my boss and management rely on me a lot due to the experiences i gained from different departments and i able advise my colleague with suitable actions for different jobs and tasks... finally, my principal company asking me to join their company be a consultant now and still under negotiate for better packages...

+1

even my junior colleague going to ZTE for training for few months but salary @ RM2200 only...
but he will transfer to China and he will get USD2200 (about RM7000) if he able to achieve minimum KPI...
FYI my junior colleague graduated from UITM with 1st year diploma only and working experience lesser than 1 year...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Dec 27 2011, 09:25 PM

but you have to left ur beloved family behind for long run and adpot new environment...
hence communication at different countries may an issues too...
such as i having the difficulties to communicate with china citizen even though i'm chinese and educated by mandarain environment in malaysia and my colleague indian and malay relying on me... somemore my malay colleague looking for halal food around shanghai but china citizen dont know what i asking even though i tried to speak with china-darin style...

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Added on December 28, 2011, 8:29 am
for fresh graduated with RM2375 + 5 months bonus is really good enough...
imagine mine RM1800 even though with degree level 5 years ago..

perhaps you should beef up yourself with more experiences before going to Singapore or looking for better career...
otherwise u still working as kuli too on your coming new job... i dont think you really work as kuli forever right?

This post has been edited by gkl83: Dec 28 2011, 08:29 AM