QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 11 2011, 01:30 AM)
Eh sorry 1.4 lolPhotography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V4, Anticipating D700 replacement !
Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V4, Anticipating D700 replacement !
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guys....im goin to tke part as photographer this weekend, to help my cousin modeling for competition at the park. the q is, do i need to get reflector too? will this really goin to boost up the pic on the lighting? and by using only 1 batt, can tahan frm 9am til 5pm? or need to get another spare batt?
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 11 2011, 12:41 AM) IndeedQUOTE(gnome @ Feb 11 2011, 12:51 AM) The Nikon holy trinity. QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 11 2011, 01:19 AM) I like your color. it seems less saturated yet nice. moreover it is tack sharp. Today so sad, come back from office at 12 where everyone in my neighborhood playing with fireworks. I was rushing to go home go get my camera, and when I came with my camera, it was 12:30 AM. so the fireworks just gone. I was helping my friend to take his portrait shoot, and accidentally my 35mm 1.8 focus sounds becoming *kreek* sound. I was like What??!! I tried to unmount it and mount it again for like 3 times yet still give me *kreek* sound while focusing, and eventually I try to play with the switch, make it manual focus, then M/A for like quite sometimes luckily things turn out works as normal. Added on February 11, 2011, 2:57 am QUOTE(invisibl3boyz @ Feb 11 2011, 02:31 AM) guys....im goin to tke part as photographer this weekend, to help my cousin modeling for competition at the park. the q is, do i need to get reflector too? will this really goin to boost up the pic on the lighting? and by using only 1 batt, can tahan frm 9am til 5pm? or need to get another spare batt? totally depends on the amount of shutter released and the amount of time you do play back on your image.This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: Feb 11 2011, 09:51 AM |
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[quote=celciuz,Feb 11 2011, 01:18 AM]
Razuryza , you use what len to shoot for your portrait? [/quote] I can't wait and decided to grab the D700 since its pretty cheap now [/quote] i'm thinking i should do the same too.. heeee.. cause if the d800 comes out.. it wont be 6k..the d800 price will probably be like when d700 1st came out years ago. around 9k right? Added on February 11, 2011, 7:33 am[quote=KTCY,Feb 11 2011, 01:30 AM] ya will be better by 1000 Actually, want the video on FF. D3s too far away [/quote] On the white side u can get it now.. dark side not yet laa..hehe This post has been edited by alpha_company: Feb 11 2011, 07:36 AM |
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[quote=razuryza,Feb 11 2011, 01:19 AM]
Razuryza , you use what len to shoot for your portrait? [/quote] which one? y? so bad aa? [/quote] Ahh im just asking. Wahh where got bad lar Added on February 11, 2011, 7:53 am[quote=celciuz,Feb 11 2011, 01:18 AM] Razuryza , you use what len to shoot for your portrait? [/quote] I can't wait and decided to grab the D700 since its pretty cheap now [/quote] Ya 6k for D700 This post has been edited by bbuser91: Feb 11 2011, 07:53 AM |
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 10 2011, 11:07 PM) sony leh? pentax? Bro, don't worry so much; Most important is you to choose what you feel best and which you prefer more; People who prefer different system will favor the system over the other. Some people prefer the feel of Canon, or maybe the "brand/name" like fashion, the design and menu system, the performance, etc. or vice versa. Most important is what YOU feel, not others. The best is to try out yourself.got same setting photo for both brand? just curious wan to see... nikon produce more saturated colours got like iphone4 that obvious? As for pictures, it's more about skills; Camera is just the tool to help to take picture, just like art tools help artist paints. Of course, good tools will help, but skills is still more important. For the colour differences, if there are differences, probably becuase they shoot JPEG, but EVEN within same system, the JPEG image colour produce from different model of the SAME brand can be different. ANYWAY, eventually or most probably you're going to edit or post process (pp) the photos (especially if you shoot raw), so you're still going to tune the colours to your personal preferences. Even if you're not going to pp the photos, there is still "picture control" in the camera you can set AND also adjust to your personal preferences; So, first, check with the person who tells you about the colour thingy, do they play and adjust the "picture control" or do they do pp? Personally, I would say this is not really an issue unless one just use standard/same picture control and compare. |
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 11 2011, 09:51 AM) Bro, don't worry so much; Most important is you to choose what you feel best and which you prefer more; People who prefer different system will favor the system over the other. Some people prefer the feel of Canon, or maybe the "brand/name" like fashion, the design and menu system, the performance, etc. or vice versa. Most important is what YOU feel, not others. The best is to try out yourself. agree. treat ur gears as a tools. u as the artist. As for pictures, it's more about skills; Camera is just the tool to help to take picture, just like art tools help artist paints. Of course, good tools will help, but skills is still more important. For the colour differences, if there are differences, probably becuase they shoot JPEG, but EVEN within same system, the JPEG image colour produce from different model of the SAME brand can be different. ANYWAY, eventually or most probably you're going to edit or post process (pp) the photos (especially if you shoot raw), so you're still going to tune the colours to your personal preferences. Even if you're not going to pp the photos, there is still "picture control" in the camera you can set AND also adjust to your personal preferences; So, first, check with the person who tells you about the colour thingy, do they play and adjust the "picture control" or do they do pp? Personally, I would say this is not really an issue unless one just use standard/same picture control and compare. good tools are good, but dun constrain urself even if u're equipe with simple tools. btw, lens do play apart in color. but as mentioned above. dun worry if u're to PP it. |
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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Feb 11 2011, 12:34 AM) Nice, think I'm gonna get a set within this month. Do common camera shop has it or need to thoroughly search? Shashinki selling a bit more due to the shipping fee. This post has been edited by C_Sagi: Feb 11 2011, 10:31 AM |
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 11 2011, 09:51 AM) Bro, don't worry so much; Most important is you to choose what you feel best and which you prefer more; People who prefer different system will favor the system over the other. Some people prefer the feel of Canon, or maybe the "brand/name" like fashion, the design and menu system, the performance, etc. or vice versa. Most important is what YOU feel, not others. The best is to try out yourself. yes he did some minor post production in photo (?), and i did ask him the picture before product haha...anyway just wan heard different opinion form different people As for pictures, it's more about skills; Camera is just the tool to help to take picture, just like art tools help artist paints. Of course, good tools will help, but skills is still more important. For the colour differences, if there are differences, probably becuase they shoot JPEG, but EVEN within same system, the JPEG image colour produce from different model of the SAME brand can be different. ANYWAY, eventually or most probably you're going to edit or post process (pp) the photos (especially if you shoot raw), so you're still going to tune the colours to your personal preferences. Even if you're not going to pp the photos, there is still "picture control" in the camera you can set AND also adjust to your personal preferences; So, first, check with the person who tells you about the colour thingy, do they play and adjust the "picture control" or do they do pp? Personally, I would say this is not really an issue unless one just use standard/same picture control and compare. and i m lazy adjust colour haha...if can wan jsut shoot in camera and transfer to PC and post online enough haha -- 1)noob question: full frame and 4/3' sensor beside the ratio difference...what else got difference? 2)i got 1 friend also playing nikon...we buy D70s together , then later he upgrade to D90 while i "hibernate" that time lol...now when i "wake up" again and i ask his opinion what model to buy since i wan a "live-view" since now i alraedy get used with touch screen phone snap snap photo...(and sensor cleaning too lol...D70s dun have).... he recommended D3100 and D7000...but he say same thing la... play lens enough, body is secondary... but i wan get D7000 and get spec kau kau so later i also will learn photograhpy kau kau because i pay for that body kau kau *if i get D3100 later scare boh syok because no AF there (if i get non-af lens) and i m lazy sell DSLR second hand body... (correct me if i m wrong in this info again (by the way i use photoshop to draw more than i editing photo haha...) This post has been edited by Agito666: Feb 11 2011, 10:05 AM |
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 11 2011, 10:04 AM) yes he did some minor post production in photo (?), and i did ask him the picture before product haha...anyway just wan heard different opinion form different people Even you shoot without PP, in the camera, you can choose the "Picture Control" profile; For newer Nikona DSLR, they have "Portrait" profile already which renders the skin tones very nice. Plus, as some members already mention, older Nikona DSLR which uses CCD could also renders the color differently.and i m lazy adjust colour haha...if can wan jsut shoot in camera and transfer to PC and post online enough haha -- 1)noob question: full frame and 4/3' sensor beside the ratio difference...what else got difference? 2)i got 1 friend also playing nikon...we buy D70s together , then later he upgrade to D90 while i "hibernate" that time lol...now when i "wake up" again and i ask his opinion what model to buy since i wan a "live-view" since now i alraedy get used with touch screen phone snap snap photo...(and sensor cleaning too lol...D70s dun have).... he recommended D3100 and D7000...but he say same thing la... play lens enough, body is secondary... but i wan get D7000 and get spec kau kau so later i also will learn photograhpy kau kau because i pay for that body kau kau *if i get D3100 later scare boh syok because no AF there (if i get non-af lens) and i m lazy sell DSLR second hand body... (correct me if i m wrong in this info again If the preset profile is still not up to your liking, you can still customize it to your liking. So, don't worry so much about it, besides if you want to go into detail about it, you also need to calibrate your monitor, 1) Most DSLR sensor is APS-C which is bigger than 4/3', most (if not all) digital camera have small sensor. N8 have sensor bigger than some digital camera, so you can feel some differences on the image quality and low light capabilities, but it doesn't just rely on sensor size only of course. Technology keeps improving, you can't keep up unless you're loaded with $$$. 2) If you want low budget, D90 is a good DSLR; If you willing to spend more, D7000 is good choice. Yes, lens matters most. If you spend most of your money on an expensive body later got no money buy good lens, you might not get the result you wanted. Flash is also plays another important role photography. Cheaper alternative between D90 and D7000 would be Canon 60D which SHIFU aspire is using; It's a different system different body design, menu system. Since you're Nikon user, you will need to try it out to know if you like the feel, grip, etc. If you decide to stick to the D7000, you can invest on some lens now first, such as the 50mm f/1.8D. You can try it and experience the quality from your current kit lens and the wide aperture for low light or bokeh for blowing out the background. From this, you will also notice the important of lens. |
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QUOTE 1)noob question: full frame and 4/3' sensor beside the ratio difference...what else got difference? Wider sensor means better ISO handling capability (you don't have to bump up your ISO as much as APS-C do, as your sensor capture more light), you get the actual focal length of your lens mean when you buy 50mm lens you will get 50mm lens unlike ASP-C with it's cropped factor (Nikon 1.5x, Canon 1.6x, Canon APS-H 1.3x), built quality indeed, usually come with better specs like 8/9 fps, superb AF system, CLS capability, better control in the body (not like entry level body where you have dig up the menu to change the control), of course better control placement.QUOTE he recommended D3100 and D7000...but he say same thing la... play lens enough, body is secondary... but i wan get D7000 and get spec kau kau so later i also will learn photograhpy kau kau because i pay for that body kau kau *if i get D3100 later scare boh syok because no AF there (if i get non-af lens) and i m lazy sell DSLR second hand body... he is correct I myself do recommended starter to get either D7k or D3100. APS-C sensor model doesn't make any much difference, except the CLS, built-quality and AF. but entry level AF is actually sufficient <- come back to the person. Lens is the major things when we are talking about ASP-C even FF lens still do a major difference I suppose. Do remember model does deprecate, today you say d7k GODLIKE 2 years later you say so-so. so does lens do deprecate, however good lens does deprecate slower true fact, 50mm 1.2 Ais <- still owning in its class, however due to technological problem there is no AF on the lens. QUOTE (by the way i use photoshop to draw more than i editing photo haha...) I got to say I am more than agree, PP is boring, tiring and taking a long time. yet if you don't do it <- usually I am too lazy to do it. You wouldn't get amazing (woah2) color tone <- Correct me if I am wrong on this This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: Feb 11 2011, 10:35 AM |
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 11 2011, 10:32 AM) 1)Wider sensor means better ISO handling capability (you don't have to bump up your ISO as much as APS-C do, as your sensor capture more light), you get the actual focal length of your lens mean when you buy 50mm lens you will get 50mm lens unlike ASP-C with it's cropped factor (Nikon 1.5x, Canon 1.6x, Canon APS-H 1.3x), built quality indeed, usually come with better specs like 8/9 fps, superb AF system, CLS capability, better control in the body (not like entry level body where you have dig up the menu to change the control), of course better control placement. 1) thanks 2)he is correct I myself do recommended starter to get either D7k or D3100. APS-C sensor model doesn't make any much difference, except the CLS, built-quality and AF. but entry level AF is actually sufficient <- come back to the person. Lens is the major things when we are talking about ASP-C even FF lens still do a major difference I suppose. Do remember model does deprecate, today you say d7k GODLIKE 2 years later you say so-so. so does lens do deprecate, however good lens does deprecate slower true fact, 50mm 1.2 Ais <- still owning in its class, however due to technological problem there is no AF on the lens. 3)I got to say I am more than agree, PP is boring, tiring and taking a long time. yet if you don't do it <- usually I am too lazy to do it. You wouldn't get amazing (woah2) color tone <- Correct me if I am wrong on this 2) getting D3100 scare will not liking it, because entry level body is light and small...grip also not nice haha...last time holding colleague's canon 400D i feel like actually i m not really new to photography...learn before but not really deep into it...and once hibernate for years...now awaken because of KLIMS 2010 hot chicks 3) yes, post production photo is tiresome haha...except among many photos let's say 200-300 i will choose 2-3 photos to edit only. |
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 11 2011, 01:24 AM) noted QUOTE(daze @ Feb 11 2011, 09:50 AM) awesome shot. but what type of ND filter you use, is the screw type filter example B+W 77mm #110 Neutral Density (ND) 3.0 Glass Filter or Cokin glass type? QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 11 2011, 10:32 AM) I got to say I am more than agree, PP is boring, tiring and taking a long time. true,but can listen song while PP loh,reduce boringness. yet if you don't do it <- usually I am too lazy to do it. You wouldn't get amazing (woah2) color tone <- Correct me if I am wrong on this as long dont overexposure your shot,noise, and distracting subject,pp would be a quick fix. This post has been edited by g_pentium: Feb 11 2011, 10:59 AM |
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 11 2011, 10:32 AM) I got to say I am more than agree, PP is boring, tiring and taking a long time. It's only take long time if you're NEW to it; Once you learn up, you can touch up very fast; Basically, there're many ways to touch up, even minor touch up is good, such as improving the contrast, vibrance, clarity, blacks, etc.yet if you don't do it <- usually I am too lazy to do it. You wouldn't get amazing (woah2) color tone <- Correct me if I am wrong on this Plus, in lightroom, IF you're lazy, you can apply the settings to ALL your pictures, and then have a quick review which one needs further adjustment. It all depends on you. All I can say is, once you do PP "properly", you will start to appreciate it and see the difference; You can always compare BEFORE and AFTER. Best if you shoot RAW, as you can adjust more; To see the difference, you can shoot RAW+JPEG, then compare the PP results from RAW VS your JPEG produced by the camera... You can improve your PP skills by first matching the JPEG results and then slowly improve further. Then you will ask yourself, do you still want to PP? Besides, if you shoot RAW, and your camera have RAW processing, you can process your RAW image and do adjustment like adjusting the Picture Control, sharpness, etc. EVEN with this, you will see the difference already, PP is not a must; but it's makes a difference. |
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 11 2011, 10:54 AM) 1) thanks Get whatever thing you feel you suit most, it doesn't have to be Nikon, or Canon. Leica also geng larr 2) getting D3100 scare will not liking it, because entry level body is light and small...grip also not nice haha...last time holding colleague's canon 400D i feel like ... actually i m not really new to photography...learn before but not really deep into it...and once hibernate for years...now awaken because of KLIMS 2010 hot chicks 3) yes, post production photo is tiresome haha...except among many photos let's say 200-300 i will choose 2-3 photos to edit only. LOL... you are more than welcome. QUOTE(g_pentium @ Feb 11 2011, 10:57 AM) noted I can't hold my patient when PP it on my laptop. even open RAW file also hard. awesome shot. but what type of ND filter you use, is the screw type filter example B+W 77mm #110 Neutral Density (ND) 3.0 Glass Filter or Cokin glass type? true,but can listen song while PP loh,reduce boringness. as long dont overexposure your shot,noise, and distracting subject,pp would be a quick fix. CPU processor goes to 100% immediately RAW PP I takes me more than 3 days for 50 pics I guess QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 11 2011, 10:58 AM) It's only take long time if you're NEW to it; Once you learn up, you can touch up very fast; Basically, there're many ways to touch up, even minor touch up is good, such as improving the contrast, vibrance, clarity, blacks, etc. Will do better bro. Plus, in lightroom, IF you're lazy, you can apply the settings to ALL your pictures, and then have a quick review which one needs further adjustment. It all depends on you. All I can say is, once you do PP "properly", you will start to appreciate it and see the difference; You can always compare BEFORE and AFTER. Best if you shoot RAW, as you can adjust more; To see the difference, you can shoot RAW+JPEG, then compare the PP results from RAW VS your JPEG produced by the camera... You can improve your PP skills by first matching the JPEG results and then slowly improve further. Then you will ask yourself, do you still want to PP? Besides, if you shoot RAW, and your camera have RAW processing, you can process your RAW image and do adjustment like adjusting the Picture Control, sharpness, etc. EVEN with this, you will see the difference already, PP is not a must; but it's makes a difference. Thanks. I really2 need to learn on that. |
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 11 2011, 11:09 AM) Get whatever thing you feel you suit most, it doesn't have to be Nikon, or Canon. Leica also geng larr 1) Leica? sponsor mari mari LOL... you are more than welcome. I can't hold my patient when PP it on my laptop. even open RAW file also hard. CPU processor goes to 100% immediately RAW PP I takes me more than 3 days for 50 pics I guess Will do better bro. Thanks. I really2 need to learn on that. 2) My CPU also lag once open A4 setting in PS for drawing. 3) Due to confortable with D70s body that's why entry level DSLR is feel like plastic for me? |
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 11 2011, 10:32 AM) I got to say I am more than agree, PP is boring, tiring and taking a long time. Not really, depends on natural lighting available.yet if you don't do it <- usually I am too lazy to do it. You wouldn't get amazing (woah2) color tone <- Correct me if I am wrong on this sometimes, if the lighting are right. u can skip the PP QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 11 2011, 10:54 AM) 3) yes, post production photo is tiresome haha...except among many photos let's say 200-300 i will choose 2-3 photos to edit only. of course selective PP. PP 200-300 tat'll be ....@_@" QUOTE(g_pentium @ Feb 11 2011, 10:57 AM) but what type of ND filter you use, is the screw type filter example B+W 77mm #110 Neutral Density (ND) 3.0 Glass Filter or Cokin glass type? B+W 77mm ND110. |
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