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alexwsk
post Jan 24 2011, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(winner @ Jan 24 2011, 05:17 PM)
There was a time the cashier at Guardian forgot to keep the merchant's transaction slip. She gave me the wrong slip (merchant's copy which was signed) and she kept the customer's copy which was not signed instead, and I only noticed that when I was back home. However, the transaction still went through.
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if u want, u can dispute it laugh.gif


Added on January 24, 2011, 6:08 pm
QUOTE(winner @ Jan 24 2011, 06:06 PM)
This needs to be further clarified after the actual statement arrives.
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yea, waiting for forummer's update once the card is out

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post Jan 24 2011, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 24 2011, 05:53 PM)
Call MBB cs on MBB 2 Cards and this was what they said:

GST for the 2 supplementary cards is Rm25x2.

Cards can not be used for free access to Premium Lounge at KLIA or LCCT.
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thanks for the info notworthy.gif

so now confirm supp card is rm50 sweat.gif

(at t&c already stated supp card gst is rm25 for each card)


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post Jan 24 2011, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 24 2011, 05:53 PM)
Cash rebate from retail transactions exclude those done online.
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QUOTE(winner @ Jan 24 2011, 06:06 PM)
This needs to be further clarified after the actual statement arrives.
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lets look at another bank?

HSBC:

Retail transactions are made at any merchant terminals only.
Excludes cash advances, finance fees/management charges and credit card/-i annual fee payment, balance transfers, government service tax, standing instructions/auto-billing, internet/online transactions, overseas transaction, mail order telephone order transactions, and flexi payment plans.

OCBC:

Retail Spend includes recurring payment / auto debit transaction, all local and overseas new retail spending, e-commerce / internet purchases, petrol and new Instalment Payment Plan (IPP) transactions. Exclusions are Flexi Payment Plan (FPP), Smart Shopper Plan (SSP), Balance Transfer, Cash Plus, Call-for-Cash, Dial-a-Cash, Dial-a-Cheque, Outstanding Balance, Finance Charges, Annual Fees, Late Charges, Reversals, Fraudulent Retail Transaction and other fees and charges.

dunno mbb 2 will follow which 1 hmm.gif
of coz la all wish hopefully follow OCBC? laugh.gif

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post Jan 24 2011, 06:19 PM

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ya...i don't feel like CS will be able to answer these kind of questions correctly.

Most of them are actually not aware of the products by their own bank, especially when we want detailed answer from them.. only the answer from staff from credit card department is reliable..
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QUOTE(hebe87 @ Jan 24 2011, 06:19 PM)
ya...i don't feel like CS will be able to answer these kind of questions correctly.

Most of them are actually not aware of the products by their own bank, especially when we want detailed answer from them.. only the answer from staff from credit card department is reliable..
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OT, u want to know why?

bcoz most of the bank outsourced their call center.
the 1 who answer ur call is not working with the bank, but working with call center company sweat.gif

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post Jan 24 2011, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry @ Jan 24 2011, 04:47 PM)
Most cashiers do not verify the signatures on the trxn slip with the one at the back of the card.
Many times I "cincai"sign but never encountered problem.
QUOTE(erry- @ Jan 24 2011, 04:56 PM)
depends on the cashier. some cashier did check the card, if no signature he/she will ask u to sign it immediately there.
previously i also forget to sign replacement card, swipe at cashier many time and the cashier didnt check, till 1 day, got checked, so just sign.
Guys, she was asking if a transaction is valid if one did not sign on the credit card transaction receipt. Anyway, the bank requires us to sign on the receipt as a way to prove that we are indeed the ones who made the purchase (in case you dispute the transaction).
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Is the transaction considered valid if one did not sign on the credit card transaction receipt?
Nope
QUOTE(winner @ Jan 24 2011, 05:17 PM)
There was a time the cashier at Guardian forgot to keep the merchant's transaction slip. She gave me the wrong slip (merchant's copy which was signed) and she kept the customer's copy which was not signed instead, and I only noticed that when I was back home. However, the transaction still went through.
This is because they can print a duplicate receipt from the credit card processing terminal.


QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 24 2011, 05:19 PM)
Benefits for the Maybankard 2 Platinum and Gold are the same?

Only differences are the credit limits?
Besides what Winner mentioned, the other difference is the status.


QUOTE(winner @ Jan 24 2011, 05:22 PM)
I guess you would better get the black and white from HSBC before you make early settlement. Some banks require you to write in your request officially and most of them would impose early settlement fee.
I am writing to them via a secured message through HSBC online. Just sent them another secured message asking them what is the procedure like. What should i do before settling the 0% IPP at one go.


QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 24 2011, 05:53 PM)
Cash rebate from retail transactions exclude those done online.
What ? This is bad if true doh.gif


QUOTE(hebe87 @ Jan 24 2011, 06:19 PM)
ya...i don't feel like CS will be able to answer these kind of questions correctly.

Most of them are actually not aware of the products by their own bank, especially when we want detailed answer from them.. only the answer from staff from credit card department is reliable..
Agreed ! You probably can get a better answer here that is correct and faster laugh.gif


QUOTE(erry- @ Jan 24 2011, 06:25 PM)
OT, u want to know why?

bcoz most of the bank outsourced their call center.
the 1 who answer ur call is not working with the bank, but working with call center company sweat.gif
Not entirely true. Most banks in Malaysia still operate their own call centre in their head office usually.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 24 2011, 06:43 PM)
Guys, she was asking if a transaction is valid if one did not sign on the credit card transaction receipt. Anyway, the bank requires us to sign on the receipt as a way to prove that we are indeed the ones who made the purchase (in case you dispute the transaction).
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QUOTE(lil`pumpkinz @ Jan 24 2011, 04:24 PM)
Is the transaction considered valid if one did not sign on the credit card transaction receipt?
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oh ok. at the transaction receipt (slip). its so rare after slip come out then u dont want to sign. why give card at 1st to be swipe? laugh.gif
if wrong amount, the merchant terminal can reversed it back. (note: not all cashier know how to do this).

QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 24 2011, 05:53 PM)
Cash rebate from retail transactions exclude those done online.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 24 2011, 06:43 PM)
What ? This is bad if true  doh.gif
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refer to my HSBC example above sweat.gif

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 24 2011, 06:43 PM)
Most banks in Malaysia still operate their own call centre in their head office usually.
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i have friends working at 'bank' call center. the building, door, wall inside, all got bank logo.
but their payslip is from call center company, not the bank (dont have bank logo) notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 24 2011, 06:43 PM)
This is because they can print a duplicate receipt from the credit card processing terminal..
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But again, they did not have the merchant's copy signed by me. They did not have my signature though. Regardless of how many copies they could reproduce, none of them would be the "signed copy".
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post Jan 24 2011, 09:37 PM

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SCB really give the rm188 cash back or not ?

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QUOTE(winner @ Jan 24 2011, 08:12 PM)
But again, they did not have the merchant's copy signed by me. They did not have my signature though. Regardless of how many copies they could reproduce, none of them would be the "signed copy".
They still can claim the money as far as i am concerned. Problem will only arise if you refuse to honor the transaction and dispute it.

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QUOTE(lil`pumpkinz @ Jan 24 2011, 04:24 PM)
Is the transaction considered valid if one did not sign on the credit card transaction receipt?
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Yes. Signature on the merchant slip is not important at the point of transaction. Credit card works on a user dispute system. After card authorisation, bank will pay the merchant and that's the end of the story unless the customer disputes the transaction. If this happens, the bank will check and a correctly signed merchant slip will be considered proof that a non-fraudulent transaction did occur.

The bank will be very suspicious if the customer disputes a lot of transactions and all of the merchant slips are not signed or incorrectly signed. whistling.gif

For the forumer who might want to dispute a purchase since the signed merchant slip was given incorrectly, you might want to check whether the shop had any cctv's near the cashier before actually calling the bank. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(princezs @ Jan 24 2011, 09:37 PM)
SCB really give the rm188 cash back or not ?
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The promotion is until 31-01-11. It could be too late if you apply for the card now, unless SCB would like to extend the promotion.
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Guys ... let's be careful when discussing about the signature issue.
The last thing we want to happen is someone tries to be smart and beat the system. It's a Malaysian "boleh" mentality that worries me.

Banks are not that stupid and generally banks have a special team which investigates cc frauds. Likely if someone tries to be smart against the bank, it has been done before and the poor soul caught.

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post Jan 24 2011, 10:31 PM

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guys, a question, let's say we exceeded the credit card usage.
For example, the credit limit is 5k.
Spent until 5.2k.
If we pay the bank rm700 and the credit drops to 4.5k, can we still use the card?
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hi, i would like to ask whether worth to apply for shell city bank card.
mostly my expense is on petrol(shell) only. but i check their calculation actually didn't save up much.
by using shell city(classsic), i put rm300 per month, anual only save roughly rm50..
any recommend card for me to apply ?
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QUOTE(cyril85 @ Jan 24 2011, 10:36 PM)
hi, i would like to ask whether worth to apply for shell city bank card.
mostly my expense is on petrol(shell) only. but i check their calculation actually didn't save up much.
by using shell city(classsic), i put rm300 per month, anual only save roughly rm50..
any recommend card for me to apply ?
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OCBC Titanium : 5% on fuel/dining/groceries/utilities, subject to maximum RM50 monthly.
Maybankard 2 Amex (Gold or Platinum) : 5X points everyday, 5% cashback on weekends (also limit to RM50 monthly)

I think these two are the most popular cards at the moment.


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QUOTE(hazairi @ Jan 24 2011, 10:31 PM)
guys, a question, let's say we exceeded the credit card usage.
For example, the credit limit is 5k.
Spent until 5.2k.
If we pay the bank rm700 and the credit drops to 4.5k, can we still use the card?
Depends on which bank you are talking about. Certain banks won't even approve the transaction if there is insufficient balance in your account.

Anyway, assume you have maxed out your card credit limit of RM5k but already deposited RM700 into your card account later on. Then yes. You can use your credit card again and you will be able to swipe another RM700.

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QUOTE(chemistry @ Jan 24 2011, 10:44 PM)
OCBC Titanium : 5% on fuel/dining/groceries/utilities, subject to maximum RM50 monthly.
Maybankard 2 Amex (Gold or Platinum) : 5X points everyday, 5% cashback on weekends (also limit to RM50 monthly)

I think these two are the most popular cards at the moment.
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i fresh and my salary only around 2k++.. how to apply titatum sad.gif
any good card to apply within my range?
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 24 2011, 10:55 PM)
Depends on which bank you are talking about. Certain banks won't even approve the transaction if there is insufficient balance in your account.

Anyway, assume you have maxed out your card credit limit of RM5k but already deposited RM700 into your card account later on. Then yes. You can use your credit card again and you will be able to swipe another RM700.
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thanks for the info.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(cyril85 @ Jan 24 2011, 11:01 PM)
i fresh and my salary only around 2k++.. how to apply titatum sad.gif
any good card to apply within my range?
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There are very few classic card that gives rebate on petrol nowadays. Even DirectAccess (CIMB) mastercard also ceased their 2% petrol rebate recently. Now left only Shell Citi Classic gives 1.5% cashback on purchases at Shell.

What you can do is apply a DirectAccess (or Citi Shell Classic) card first. Or Citi Giant card (if you spend a lot at Giant).

After a year or so, go apply another bank's cc. That time, you may try to apply higher grade cc such as Maybankard 2 Gold. Fresh grad is like that one, everything starts from the ground.

Just my opinion. Please don't take it as financial advice.

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