dude are you saying deadlifts do more to your traps than shrugs? deadlifts uses traps, i agree, but my traps are way more sore the next day if i did smith shrugs

Agree. No offense to razorboy.

well shrugs isolates the traps , but deads work them just as well. Because you mentioned that you don't feel it in your traps and just your legs. Well, unless you are doing a SLDL, quite frankly,the main focus should be in your back , not your legs. With a deadlift, I feel my traps, lats, middle back lower back get hammered before I start feeling anything more in my legs, not that I don't feel anything at all but it'll be like the 1st working set instead of the feeling of getting hammered. I don't know if you get the idea. But that is what I'm trying to point out here.

and I agree on the shrugging causes more soreness on my traps, but If I do deads b4 shrugs, my poundages would go down most definitely, in fact, it would go down a lot. Because the traps were already fried. Btw, dark, non-taken. This is the kind of discussion that should be happening in this forum, not how nitrotech will give us sixpack kind of discussion.

This post has been edited by razorboy: Oct 19 2011, 11:48 AM

dude, reread what i wrote. i mentioned it hits both back and legs. and traps since you mention it lol. i wasnt trying to be specific, im just telling whats sore the next day..

edit: shrugs are done on my shoulder days so no probs there. stop editing your posts haha

This post has been edited by mikehuan: Oct 19 2011, 11:49 AM

I was referring to this. that's why. Just saying that DLS hit the back > legs bro.


I just saw dark's post after I post thats why

This post has been edited by razorboy: Oct 19 2011, 11:50 AM

It depends on what level you start your deadlifts from guys. Both of you are right. pin adjustment on the rack.

And there was once I did shrugs on shoulder days, and the next day was back, man that workout was a pain throughout. I literally had to slap myself to keep myself focused on hammering my back than the soreness that I had to deal with

Can you both kiss, make out and make up? No vids needêd thanks.

dude, dafuq?

btw, me n mike are cool. this is healthy discussion.

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Added on October 19, 2011, 11:55 amand why are we talking about DLs in gym etiquette -___-

This post has been edited by razorboy: Oct 19 2011, 11:55 AM

You the one who added.me on.fb recently?

Yea. I wanted to leave a message, but i couldn't find the damn message box on the friend request

chill, healthy discussion is healthy. hmm i probably need to change my words a bit. by getting a workout i meant being very very sore the next day. and yes, my back gets it more than legs. specifically lower back gets hit the worst

not just pin placements though since i dl from the floor hip start position matters too. all about leverages.

heh, my routine is i rest a day after back days so at least im recharged a bit for shoulders

damn... was thinking to hit back and chest with you on sat.

lets see, i hit back on monday, so sat should be alright to hit it again. havent hit any other bodyparts yet so i'll do shoulders and some lightweight legs, so i think sat should be alright to hit chest and back!

My back and chest workout combined are less than 18 sets total and reps not more than 3-6 so can la.

can i lol on this? no offence to mike n razor

if anything, pls blame darkie

rofl. no, you may not lol!

Yesterday I went to the ghetto gym.

Was resting between sets so I decided to look around the "scenery". Saw two bodybuilders. They took turns doing half ROM wide grip pull ups with the comfort of straps. I think that is quite normal, warm up the lats before they blast it or perhaps finishing off their lats with this final set of pull ups.

Then I noticed they spotted or "helped" each other with the pull ups by holding on to the hips..... can say half of an ass grab or ass push.

Usually I don't let much get to me already but this is just disgusting

not all can do pull ups, but ass grabbing is just wrong

why la u guys wanna turn something normal into some mind twisting scenario?

now im scared of "assisting" my gym buddies in chining... but seriously, im only grab the ankle level, not the ass grabbing/crotch pushing/tits pressing technique...