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post Aug 9 2011, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(WSL999 @ Aug 9 2011, 02:58 PM)
I got most of the items for my company at very good price. I will squeeze every drop of 'juice' out from the orange. Then round up the figure to 'GG' them. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 9 2011, 08:26 PM

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Dell Ultrasharp U2412M Review

Based on that review the U2412M performs similarly compared to a U2410 but costs half the price,out of the box it has rather warm colours though
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post Aug 9 2011, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 9 2011, 04:05 PM)
Why not buy from JREnterprise that offer RM899 for 5-years warranty?
Not sure if he can do the 3-years with lower price hmm.gif
Can try PM him too.

Anyway we shall see the review of this model U2412M eventually and we will know if it already can beat the CCFL back-light to poop wink.gif
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Didn't know got better deals than Dell from the website, ordered mine on Sat. Arriving tomorrow from the SMS. Gee..
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post Aug 10 2011, 12:29 AM

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hi everyone,

want to ask, is it worth to buy 3d monitor right now?
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post Aug 10 2011, 04:12 AM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Aug 9 2011, 12:45 PM)
U2311H - 1920x1080, 6-bit e-IPS
U2412M - 1920x1200, 6-bit e-IPS
U2410 - 1920x1200, 8-bit H-IPS
U2711 - 2560x1440, 10-bit H-IPS
U3011 - 2560x1600, 10-bit H-IPS

From U2311 to U2412M difference is u hv larger res at the same quality.
from U2412M to U2410 u got better quality at the same res.
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there is no such thing as 10-bit ips panel,the best are 8bit+frc lcd panel, if there, can it beat commercial plasma screen like panasonic vt30(8 bit) or 8 bit oled screen in colour accuracy and vibrancy and detail sweat.gif
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/monitor_panel_parts.htm
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 10 2011, 04:12 AM)
there is no such thing as 10-bit ips panel,the best are 8bit+frc lcd panel, if there, can it beat commercial plasma screen like panasonic vt30(8 bit) or 8 bit oled screen in colour accuracy and vibrancy and detail  sweat.gif
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/monitor_panel_parts.htm
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yupe, over advertised as 10-bit. 8bit+frc it is.
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post Aug 10 2011, 07:30 AM

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Most TN are 6 bit as well right? So if e-IPS is 6 bit, compared to TN still better color reproduction? Since technically they both produce 262k color (6 bit)?
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post Aug 10 2011, 07:32 AM

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Dell e-IPS is 6-bit + FRC = not-so-true 8-bit, so the color is slightly better but not as good as those true 8-bit H-IPS.
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post Aug 10 2011, 07:47 AM

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Most TN claiming to have 16M colors are also 6 bit + dithering/FRC (Example, my current Samsung 2233SW, shows it is a 6 bit + dithering)? Found these information from google, but don't really understand =(
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post Aug 10 2011, 07:58 AM

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Well I haven really look at IPS (even an e-IPS) before so I can't really comment but some of my friends whom already compared TN and IPS wouldn't even want to use TN anymore, prove that TN panel, no matter how hard they try (8-bit or 10-bit), TN is still a TN, the panel can't output so much colors, so they use sort of processing to make it looks better.
So, to conclude, IPS still kick ass, VA can kiss IPS arses. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 10 2011, 06:47 AM)
Most TN claiming to have 16M colors are also 6 bit + dithering/FRC (Example, my current Samsung 2233SW, shows it is a 6 bit + dithering)? Found these information from google, but don't really understand =(
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These days even TNs [good ones,not the bargain bin ones] can display that amount of colours with little to no banding based on my experience,so the 6bit part isn't really important imo.The same can be said for the eIPS panel monitors.

What's more important imo is viewing angles,with TNs when you turn or tilt or move your head even slightly there will be gamma shift.When this happens the colours would look off.On eIPS such things doesn't occur. icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 10 2011, 10:18 AM

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Yes, I'm glad DELL U2412M has IPS technology:)


Added on August 10, 2011, 10:23 am
QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 10 2011, 07:32 AM)
Dell e-IPS is 6-bit + FRC = not-so-true 8-bit, so the color is slightly better but not as good as those true 8-bit H-IPS.
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H-IPS for DELL is very expensive. A whopping RM1699 for U2410 model compared to the U2412M only RM899 smile.gif


Added on August 10, 2011, 10:32 am
QUOTE(WSL999 @ Aug 10 2011, 10:18 AM)
Yes, I'm glad DELL U2412M has IPS technology:)


Added on August 10, 2011, 10:23 am
H-IPS for DELL is very expensive. A whopping RM1699 for U2410 model compared to the U2412M only RM899 smile.gif
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DELL U2410 is so tempting with it's high-end specs and design. However there is a hefty price to pay.

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This post has been edited by WSL999: Aug 10 2011, 10:32 AM
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post Aug 10 2011, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 10 2011, 04:12 AM)
there is no such thing as 10-bit ips panel,the best are 8bit+frc lcd panel, if there, can it beat commercial plasma screen like panasonic vt30(8 bit) or 8 bit oled screen in colour accuracy and vibrancy and detail  sweat.gif
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/monitor_panel_parts.htm
My Sony LCD TV is a 10bit panel. No idea if it is an IPS though but does it mean it has better colour reproduction than 8bit panels?
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 10 2011, 11:54 AM)
My Sony LCD TV is a 10bit panel. No idea if it is an IPS though but does it mean it has better colour reproduction than 8bit panels?
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Ermm to answer your question. I think the more you pay for something the more you will get.
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hey guys,

i asked at the hardware Q&A but no answer so i guess asking here wud be better..

any1 noe what i shud look at if i wanna buy 3d monitor?

i wanna buy the new samsung 23" 3d monitor but seems like some people disagree with it..dono why x_X
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post Aug 10 2011, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Aug 10 2011, 12:01 PM)
hey guys,

i asked at the hardware Q&A but no answer so i guess asking here wud be better..

any1 noe what i shud look at if i wanna buy 3d monitor?

i wanna buy the new samsung 23" 3d monitor but seems like some people disagree with it..dono why x_X
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You are welcome to survey and look into Samsung latest 3D c/w LED monitor call SA Series. The design is flawless and specification is great. However expensive.

www.samsung.com.my

Good luck in your search:)
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i already check the samsung

i love it a lot but then i heard ppl say itz not worth it..but im not sure with the reason..i tink it has sumthing to do with the nvidia thing

btw, whats the price and i can find it at any samsung store right?
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post Aug 10 2011, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(WSL999 @ Aug 10 2011, 12:00 PM)
Ermm to answer your question. I think the more you pay for something the more you will get.
rclxub.gif LOL If I remember, I paid slightly over RM 10k at that time. So does that mean it's 10 times better?
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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Aug 10 2011, 12:01 PM)
hey guys,

i asked at the hardware Q&A but no answer so i guess asking here wud be better..

any1 noe what i shud look at if i wanna buy 3d monitor?

i wanna buy the new samsung 23" 3d monitor but seems like some people disagree with it..dono why x_X
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It'll not support Nvidia 3D Vision. But you still can play game using it's own Glass included.
Conclusion is : If you own ATI Gcard, I suggest you go for that monitor. But if you own a Nvidia Gcard. I prefer you choose other brand that support 3D. Alienware maybe (23" Rm 13xx)
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post Aug 10 2011, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 10 2011, 07:58 AM)
Well I haven really look at IPS (even an e-IPS) before so I can't really comment but some of my friends whom already compared TN and IPS wouldn't even want to use TN anymore, prove that TN panel, no matter how hard they try (8-bit or 10-bit), TN is still a TN, the panel can't output so much colors, so they use sort of processing to make it looks better.
So, to conclude, IPS still kick ass, VA can kiss IPS arses. tongue.gif
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Hmmm, actually I was comparing between my TN monitor versus my iPad... color reproduction is different.. looks nicer and more saturated on the iPad. Both were calibrated by Spyder.

QUOTE(Racerx @ Aug 10 2011, 08:57 AM)
These days even TNs [good ones,not the bargain bin ones] can display that amount of colours with little to no banding based on my experience,so the 6bit part isn't really important imo.The same can be said for the eIPS panel monitors.

What's more important imo is viewing angles,with TNs when you turn or tilt or move your head even slightly there will be gamma shift.When this happens the colours would look off.On eIPS such things doesn't occur. icon_idea.gif
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Oh well, sometimes when I'm doing editing on my photos. When I sit straight versus lying down have slightly different brightness on my screen, probably something to do with the viewing angle?. This is why I'm gonna try out this U2412M biggrin.gif... if its much better than my 2233SW, might consider getting another unit.. or probably wait for 2410's replacement with LED.

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