Sadly BD might not be the holy grail for the ultimate gaming rig that everyone is looking for. BD is more optimized for server like workloads and in a server where VM and heavily threaded application scales very well with core count, the regular consumer's PC is not so. Single threaded performance for BD is out of the question and higher clock speeds doesn't mean much when it's IPC is expected to be much lower than SB and much closer to Nehalem.

Most likely AMD is abandoning the enthusiast consumer as the market seems to be shrinking lately due to the majority of users want a handheld device. They have Llano to attack the mobile space and BD to attack the server space that will be providing service like cloud to mobile devices. The direction is still uncertain as AMD was under lackluster management by Hector Ruiz and Dirk Meyer. Hopefully under Rory Reed, things may change for the better in terms of competitiveness.

if the enthusiast market is shrinking, kinda wondering y intel is pushing its processor(beside EE) every other years, which is breaking benchmark every now n then (certainly not everyone look at benchmark,but lots do)...tho intel is certainly losing the handheld segment

tho,on a personal note,i dont think im gonna make the change...kinda pissed at gigabyte for making a 890fxa with a am3+ support, with a white socket while saying all this while that only black socket is supported...yeah2,limited capabilities on white socket but still,kinda pissed...

I can't say for sure that the enthusiast market is shrinking but from what market analysts say, the forecasted growth in percentage has dropped therefore there is a sign that it is shrinking. As much as I hate to say this, the enthusiast market is actually quite small when you compare with the number of mainstream consumers. There are more people who are illiterate when it comes with computers by a huge margin than people who are very technical with their PC.

Some say that SB is the sweet spot for a enthusiast to be and IB might not promise much either as it is geared for the mobile space. All the 3D transistor you heard of has more benefits towards the mobile space and Intel is not sitting down when it comes to mobile space either when they can dump $300 million to make sure that Ultrabook is a success. Probably desktops will gain some popularity once again when the handheld device bubble pops. There are only so many cores you can put into a handheld device and scaling is an issue when there will be a quad core ARM processor in the making this year, all of this happening while battery capacity has not improved at all.

true...beside enthusiast magazine that like high end proc, normal day to day pc magazine endorse amd proc for being cheap n good enuf to do anything an everyday man does on a pc or laptop...

but always,ppl ask me which is the most powerful proc when considering to buy a laptop,what can i say...even tho that ppl only use the laptop for social networking and not much else

anybody wanna sell their X6 BE,hehe

Given the price there (surely inflated a bit), I estimate the 8150 is being positioned against the 2500K.

Really? You can find them here unmasked: VR-Zone Forums | Enthusiast Tech Forums | Hardware Depot | FIRST in Southeast ASIA : AMD Bulldozer FX-8120 Benchmarks

More screenshots here...

Also found another one on VR-Zone: VR-Zone | Product Testing | AMD Bulldozer FX-8120 exclusive exposure! (translation here). The original news source was VR-Zone | Early Benchmarks of AMD Bulldozer FX-8120 Zambezi B2 Stepping (this link is dead )...

Other news: Legit Reviews: Leaked SiSoft Sandra Benchmarks Show AMD FX 'Zambezi' Bulldozer Won't Compete w/ Intel Sandy Bridge (same here BSN: SiSoft Leaks AMD FX-8100 "Zambezi" Scores: Worse Than Intel Core i7) which is based on this...

This post has been edited by lex: Oct 2 2011, 05:46 PM

The Bulldozer had loss its benchmark on i7 and Phenom II x6, yet they still made it hot like hell. Check over this.

http://lenzfire.com/2011/08/amd-bulldozer-...-cooling-66125/

lolwut?

Ah beat that. The update post denied this.

This post has been edited by sonicstream: Sep 12 2011, 11:19 PM

But lex did suggested that the BD 8-core performed worse than the Phenom II 6-core. I haven't checked what are the X6's scores though.

http://www.hpcwire.com/hpcwire/2011-09-09/...big_supers.html

Seems like HPC customers are already buying up Interlagos CPUs. I take that as Bulldozer outperforming the current microarchitecture.

You can check them over here: Hardware Canucks: Intel Sandy Bridge Core i5-2500K & Core i7-2600K Processors Review: Gaming Benchmarks: 3DMark06 / 3DMark Vantage.

The only HPC customer I see in that article is Cray. Furthermore there seem to be lack of any SPEC benchmarks nor estimates coming from AMD on Interlagos, unlike previously with Barcelona marketing campaign. Shall look into this a bit more.

This post has been edited by lex: Sep 13 2011, 01:54 AM

I'm so dissapointed with AMD

Hmmm.....Phenom II X6 way way higher in CPU score in 3DM06

i think still no software can truly utilize 8 core yet....

Even AMD Phenom ll X4 975 also score 5046.......My ancient QX9650 also score higher than it.

Before we go into world of bulldozer...let have a view of Llano 65W TDP version.





Free Dirt 3 full version game. nice one

Price is 8,000 Yen around RM220

This post has been edited by RegentCid: Sep 13 2011, 10:43 AM

For me not really AMD, just their Bulldozer series. Seems not worth jumping to.

8000Yen should b RM308

Thanks lex.

And that BD benchmark of 4967 also loses to one Phenom II quad core. Hopefully it is because of the benchmark being biased against it.

multithreaded app existed long time ago, its not a new thing anymore ...
A very good example that can utilize all cores : video encoder, especially x264, more core = faster.
I made a test long time ago but i lost the screencap already.

And the Dirt 3, i think its the first game can use all core, tried the benchmark yesterday, it does use all cores on my poorly overclocked(3.2Ghz) 1055t, average 50% each core.

Not until someone put voice recognition as window default User interaction, Some AI within windows to think and help u as assistant. Microsoft hasnt been agresively pushing Kinect to Desktop

I still have to use the same 30years old keyboard/mouse combo to navigate my computer UI. I cant tell my PC to search something for me give instructions to do certain task using voice.

Until these actually come, the mass user will most likely go towards tablet, laptop.

You do realize that voice recognition is not exactly a strong point for a computer. Computer language is rigid while human language is not. We can mix and match what we say and it will still be understandable to the other person but not so for the computer. To actually push for voice recognition you would need a database of voices and of which Google has done some of the work but it is definitely their patent and not willing to sell them. Even so, I don't think you can do speech recognition with the phone alone only.

I tried doing the speech recognition on a Galaxy S before and I don't think it works while being offline which leads me to think that your voice is relayed to Google's server before relaying back as a translation. Even speech recognition is rigid in a sense that some needs a starting word before a command is given. Tablet and such are entertainment devices and hardly any serious work can be done on them. A real keyboard is there to stay for a very long time. I'd like to see someone actually try to type without looking at their touch screen, I'm sure there are who could but the absence of tactile feedback makes that much harder.

Futuremark bias against AMD?
I don't think so. This is something uncalled-for.

It could be just some un-optimized or incompatible driver & software.