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AlanSiew
post Sep 4 2011, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(adie82 @ Sep 4 2011, 02:47 AM)
FM1 only for 1 year?
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I guess so. hmm.gif
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post Sep 4 2011, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(adie82 @ Sep 4 2011, 12:13 PM)
or is it FM2 backward compatible with FM1?
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I think that should be the way if FM2 has the same pin count and pin position as FM1. There should be backwards compatibility if it is true and I do think AMD wouldn't be changing sockets without backwards compatibility with every processor generation they produce.
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post Sep 4 2011, 11:18 PM

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MOBO AM3+ under rm300 which one is good? Dont want gigabyte
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post Sep 4 2011, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(waie @ Sep 4 2011, 11:18 PM)
MOBO AM3+ under rm300 which one is good? Dont want gigabyte
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Be patient for the AM3+ mobo to come.
Most of them are still not in market. icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 5 2011, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Sep 4 2011, 11:28 PM)
Be patient for the AM3+ mobo to come.
Most of them are still not in market.  icon_idea.gif
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I'm still wondering whether I should upgrade my system. If upgrade, I have two option ;

1. Sell off my mobo, ram and proc and buy SandyBridge after pricedrop when BullDozer launches
2. Change my motherboard now to am3+, then after bulldozer out, I'll change my processor
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post Sep 5 2011, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(waie @ Sep 5 2011, 12:32 AM)
I'm still wondering whether I should upgrade my system. If upgrade, I have two option ;

1. Sell off my mobo, ram and proc and buy SandyBridge after pricedrop when BullDozer launches
2. Change my motherboard now to am3+, then after bulldozer out, I'll change my processor
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1. Not very likely that SB will have a price drop although it is speculated to happen. Intel could easily just sell a refresh with higher stock clock speeds or BD is not going to be for every user so it doesn't bother Intel at all that they should reduce their prices.
2. Stick with AM3+ boards that have the 970 or 990 chipsets and a full sized board as I have seen some of the CPU support list for the Gigabyte's range and lower end boards will only support 95W TDP Bulldozers while higher tier boards will be able to support all. Could be applicable to other brands as well.
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post Sep 5 2011, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Sep 5 2011, 12:58 AM)
1. Not very likely that SB will have a price drop although it is speculated to happen. Intel could easily just sell a refresh with higher stock clock speeds or BD is not going to be for every user so it doesn't bother Intel at all that they should reduce their prices.
2. Stick with AM3+ boards that have the 970 or 990 chipsets and a full sized board as I have seen some of the CPU support list for the Gigabyte's range and lower end boards will only support 95W TDP Bulldozers while higher tier boards will be able to support all. Could be applicable to other brands as well.
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1. i do not know why I'm eager to change to intel but yeah, if the price will drop, it'll be good already. like i7 2600k.. now few sellers selling it at sub rm800 right?

2. So you adviced me to buy higher end mobo/a good mobo if i want to but the mobo now?

btw, when is bulldozer predicted to launch? next week?
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post Sep 5 2011, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(waie @ Sep 5 2011, 01:06 AM)
1. i do not know why I'm eager to change to intel but yeah, if the price will drop, it'll be good already. like i7 2600k.. now few sellers selling it at sub rm800 right?

2. So you adviced me to buy higher end mobo/a good mobo if i want to but the mobo now?

btw, when is bulldozer predicted to launch? next week?
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1. Supposedly there are rumors saying that there will be a SB refresh to counter BD at launch but it is still a rumor only. SB is the next best thing to BD I think as there are rumors of Ivy Bridge being delayed as well. Pricing depends but should be around RM900 +-
2. Not necessarily high end. Some boards cant support a 125W TDP processor . Just double check the CPU support list of the board you're buying if you intend to get the top end FX-8150.

I have no idea but they should release it soon. Rumored to be 19th September but starting to sound less and less likely. We'll see what comes by then.


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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Sep 5 2011, 01:16 AM)
1. Supposedly there are rumors saying that there will be a SB refresh to counter BD at launch but it is still a rumor only. SB is the next best thing to BD I think as there are rumors of Ivy Bridge being delayed as well. Pricing depends but should be around RM900 +-
2. Not necessarily high end. Some boards cant support a 125W TDP processor . Just double check the CPU support list of the board you're buying if you intend to get the top end FX-8150.

I have no idea but they should release it soon. Rumored to be 19th September but starting to sound less and less likely. We'll see what comes by then.
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Alright thanks for the help mang. Appreciated it thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(AlanSiew @ Aug 27 2011, 12:08 AM)
kingkingyyk,if use Asus M5A88-V EVO got compatible problem with FX series processor? Cause its 880G/SB850 chipset &  Integrated ATI Radeon™ HD 4250 GPU performance will increase if use FX series processor?tongue.gif Cause AMD FX Series CPU on this motherboard supports up to DDR3 1866MHz as its standard memory frequency. Thank You 1st. notworthy.gif
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How about M4A88T-V Evo / USB 3 ? tongue.gif you think asus will come out the bios for support am3+ ?
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post Sep 6 2011, 03:33 PM

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there is even a possibility that the AM3 mobo might support BD as well. Your Athlon X3 is still a decent CPU, I see no reason to upgrade for now.
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Found this just now: Zambezi vs Sandy Bridge - SiSoft Sandra benchmarks

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Rumors: AMD's Highly-Anticipated Bulldozer Chips May Face Further Delay. unsure.gif

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post Sep 6 2011, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(lex @ Sep 6 2011, 07:45 PM)
I knew this would be happening... zzz hmm.gif
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post Sep 6 2011, 10:12 PM

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AMD's CPU division needs to be replaced by the ATI division. At least we can count on ATI to deliver a new GPU generation every year!
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post Sep 6 2011, 10:30 PM

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Lol at this rate they gonna follow the footsteps of Voodoo5, as far as I know 3DFX does not delay voodoo5 this long. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 31 2011, 02:51 PM)
its 12core vs 6 core, sure bulldozer got advantage if the program can work on multiple core, really worried about Bulldozer IPC  sad.gif
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3 bulldozer core takes 60-75% cpu usage for running dirt 3 (fps unknown),have lots of resources to use, but too bad that hardly to see games that utilized more than 3 core  hmm.gif
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why need 8 core to run dirt 3 hmm.gif kinda dont understand at all
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post Sep 7 2011, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ Sep 6 2011, 10:38 PM)
why need 8 core to run dirt 3 hmm.gif kinda dont understand at all
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Smoother Framerates i assume? Looks like Dirt3 scale quite well.
Less core for gaming = Higher CPU usage = higher possibility of lagging or sudden drop in FPS, imho.
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another delay??
Playing delay games again??
Mayb they are waiting for LGA2011 to launch?? hmm.gif
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post Sep 7 2011, 06:51 AM

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Another BD delay... LOL
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post Sep 7 2011, 08:29 AM

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At least I can stay with current system until next year & manage to save enough money to jump to BD if its really great as rumored hehe.

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