That's pretty nice . But to be honest people would still choose an Intel Core i5 2500K over the FX-8150 unless the latter's price is lowered substantially. An average of 51.3 FPS ( at ultra settings 1920x1200, mind you ) is already pretty good. What's more is that it ( i5 2500K ) achieved a minimum of 41FPS, which is recommended for a smooth gameplay.

But strangely, an Intel Core i7 2600K at 4.8GHz managing only a maximum of 72 FPS versus an Intel Core i5 2500K at 4.8GHz with a maximum FPS of 87? Doesn't seem too logical, or perhaps optimization issues like what beta games usually suffer from.

so AMD Bulldozer FX-8150 better or Intel Sandy Bridge i7-2600K better now? Quite confuse now!

Then really wasted lof of my time for waiting this Bulldozer.Zzz TDUEnthusiast, u already changed Asus Sabertooth P67 mobo.

Maybe for Battlefield 3 the FX-8150 performs well, but for the majority of the games the Intel Sandy Bridge processors are still much faster. But still for the i7 2600K to lose 5FPS when overclocked to 4.8GHz compared to stock speed, it doesn't seem right .

The Bulldozer processors aren't entirely useless though. If they're priced much cheaper than they are now they would still probably sell. And well, yes, I have gotten it ( Sabertooth ) . But I don't have time to do a review yet, let alone any ideas on what to write.

This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Oct 13 2011, 02:31 PM

Ya, tat Bulldozer price too expensive now, don't know when their price will drop. I think maybe after Intel released i7-2700K or SB-E. I still waiting to see your Sabertooh P67 mobo review later leh.

The difference is Nvidia have the performance with a larger more power hungry chip, it beat ATI completely. But here.... AMD, they are neither. Big for nothing. the 16MB cache is a waste of money.

They should have take Phenom II X4/X6 and tweak it, shrink it down to 32nm for higher frequency or add two more cores to become X8 using the smaller 32nm tech. All these can easily finish SB 1155 in multitask area better than the stupid BD now. And the R&D is also much cheaper, because u take an old chip and tweak it.

10% improvement estimated with Windows 8 on lite task. But Bulldozer is one big chip. Tough to make money.

IMO they took a wrong gamble by making BD their own version of Intel's Pentium 4 in which they targeted higher clockspeeds over IPC performance

The unboxing of the FX-8150 if anyone is still interested in knowing what is inside the box. Looks like it is a special edition with a lot junk freebies that you pay.

The only last hope they have is like what Anandtech said, to repeat the success of Pentium 4 northwood. pentium 4 northwood does beat the AthlonXP by seer amount of extra GHz without hitting the power consumption too much. It actually fix what Willamate Pentium 4 cant do. Not until Prescott Pentium 4, Intel just broke their own arm by increasing the pipeline further in Prescott. Infact Intel manage to increase the pipeline of Prescott without sacrificing the IPC, but unfortunately they ignore the heat and power wall they gonna hit when they reach 3.8GHz. In this case they have to rely on the mature 32nm global foundry tech or may be even smaller to archive it.

BD should have clock @ 4GHz+ not 3.6GHz. If they have release BD 1000MHz extra @ 125w TDP from now. nobody will have complain.

Note that BF3 is quite difficult to benchmark identically due to the game being purely multiplayer right now. No similar test run can be done on different systems atm.

the box is so big

.......

Intel claimed that 60% ....is on its GPU part...

clock to clock compared with sandy bridge... i dun think ivy bridge will offer above 10% improvement.

hahah, alot of heated debate over BD and SB there, but seems like BD is on the downside, oh poor BD~><
Come on now, what are u gonna do to clear ur name, AMD?

IMO, AMD should stop all the hype and downplay (i.e. the comic, video clips).
She should fully focus on developing a solid product.
Let the product speak for itself.

Before that, she should fire all the marketing staff. I can see AMD sucks big time in all marketing strategies (beside the strategy of staying low/aka selling cheap).
Selling cheap is not going to help. Intel price higher but the Intel products still sell like hotcakes.
Look at the market segmentation, it is all screwed up (Zacate killed K125/K325/K625. Llano killed Zacate and Radeon GPU in notebook market).
Look at the market awareness, AMD has not done enough to educate the people that her K125/K325/K625/Zacate netbook segment is way way better than the shitty Atom (yeah, I know people only started realizing it this year. But Atom has been selling like hotcakes for so many freaking years).

IMO, AMD shud learn from the GPU team.

remember how ATI ditch the big die stratery & opted for small die, performance per watt & performance per price ratio?

since 4k series onwards, they's been competing wit nvidia big die strategy.
yes, ATI chip lost in the highest end in terms of pure performance, but win in every other segments.
most importantly, bcoz of the cost of the chip is low, they profit more than their competitor.

now, seams that the AMD CPU division has fallen in to the same trap that nvidia did wit big chip.
hard to mek, low yield, even if it's sold, it wont generate much profit coz cost is high.

K125/325/625 were meant to be replaced by Llano anyway, after all they were grossly inferior in power consumption. Llano won't kill Radeon GPUs: those Radeons still have buyers in Intel laptops, look at how many get purchased by Apple for MBPs and iMacs for example.

New gen performs worse than last gen which is known to be an outdated architecture Looks like AMD is at the position where Intel was with PRESCOTT

Cause it came bundles with the ASUS Crosshair IV Formula

the best unboxing i ever seen

I speak from my experience.
K125/K325 are in the netbook segment.
It was killed by Zacate.

I owned an Acer Aspire One 721 with K125.
It is already a kick-ass APU that wiped out all shitty Atoms.
I bought it from Singapore when it first launched in Aug 2010.
It was killed (or completely replaced) by Zacate in less than 6 months.
What kind of stupid marketing strategy was that?

Llano notebooks are now equipped with "Radeon 5650/6550" (in cross-fire mode).
Radeon 5650/6550 are virtually vanished in sub-MYR2000 and sub-MYR2500 notebooks.
Where have the GPUs gone? In Llano notebook where AMD needs to cross-fire it with Llano APU (otherwise, the performance sucks).
What's left in sub-MYR2000 and sub-MYR2500 segment are Radeon 6470 & 6630, which clearly a lower grade and not able to compete with nVidia GT525/540.
Radeon 5650/6550 notebooks used to be found in MYR2000-3000 notebooks.
Where is Radeon 5650/6550 now? in sub-MYR2000 Llano notebook.
This is what i meant AMD killed the Radeon. Extremely poor strategy.

P/S Those Radeon found in Mac are higher end Radeon 6750 (and Radeon 6490 for lower end).
The one in between Radeon 6490 & 6750 was killed (or rather run in Llano system now).