i'd say marketing department need to bear some responsibilities on this "huge" disappointment. they created d hype which made some ppl thought that BD would be Intel slayer. for those who closely follow AMD in recent years, they should know there's no way AMD can close the performance gap (let alone slayin Intel) with Bulldozer, which is something totally new if compared to previous gen. The marketing guys shouldn't labelled BD as FX series thou, coz FX still hold a special status in some AMD fans (or most), & when reality hits, it sure pains more.

undeniably BD is a let down, personally d power consumption (when overclocked) surprised me d most. but d things are here, so either i go blue camp or i just bare with it. no one is committed to use one brand of chip only, so it's always up to d users to choose what suit themselves d most. it amuses me to see some even go to d extent like having breakup with gf (those swearing they'll never buy AMD again) because they feel cheated. for me, i'll just stick around for a 'lil longer (since I've ledi got an 990FX board & doesn't want to go thru d hassle of changin board & chip). whether BD architecture could be foundation for better product lines in future is remain to be seen. fingers crossed & i'll keep reminding myself to stick my feet on d ground regardless what being "advertised" next time.

it's a promising architecture but the single thread performance is too bad to be competitive.
it does not improve much enough compare to phenom 2.
hope global foundry will sort out the quirks and ramp up the chip clock speed to remain competitive.

turbo core does seems to work nicely though.

yes I believe so as well.. thats why i suggested to the user who was asking what to do with his mobo to wait for enhanced BD. I think by then it will be refined and offers respectable performance..

it doesn't really matter if it was faster that the fastest fast CPU, just offers great performance to run everything available and good value.. then i'm buying

then again there's the optimization thing, on windows 8 with different sheduling (never spelled that word correct) the performance increase by what 10% ?!! thats huge it shows what optimised software can do...

just need to give it time to mature i'm sure amd will pull it off again just like in 2003

this bulldozer focus on games performance or multitasking job?
i thought multitasking should be great on FX

What do you expect from turbo core?
It should work because CPU runs in turbo mode is not something rocket science.

Multitask I guess, but 4 cores easily can handle most everyday multitask user, I tried like Hexalog(6-log) a MMORPG, Firefox, notepad and picture viewer with my 2500K and it work just fine

Better than Intel:

About same as Intel:


It is a heavily threaded integer monster. Goes floaty things turns out bad. Gamers shouldn't get it.

It is priced between 2600k & 2500k, so performance seems ok. But the power consumption for such new chip... is too high.

Well, at least I won't upgrade to another FX as I think my 'fake' FX can hold on its own

Who is responsible?
I'd say the management team of AMD should take 50% of the blame.
They do not know the work of their staff, both engineering and marketing team.
They should have fired both engineering and marketing guys many years ago.

The engineering guy shares the 25% of blame. For his crappy work over the years.
The marketing guy shares the 25% of blame. For the sh*t he spewed over the years.

With all those bad reviews, it seems on oct 12, AMD stocks still open up higher than previous day lol.

http://www.google.com/finance?q=AMD

I just realise Intel is practically 4.5x bigger than AMD lol...

4.5 times?

look at market capitalization:

Intel: 121.40 Billion

AMD: 3.41 billion

now if you read my posts in this thread they will make more sense

, so will u get 1 to OC it kaw kaw?

Yeap, intel is bigger than AMD in terms of everything.

Well, juz get what you think is most suitable and the best out of your budget and happy with it.

its undeniable the results are shocking. neway, another year of waiting to go.

just look at the turbo core at thuban.

i am hoping FX-4100 don't too lame please~~~~~

thx for the advice for now,the only thing to do to benefit myself is to wait for a price cut..if the 8150 is price around rm650-700, i'd totally buy it! now i'll just spend the money i saved up for bulldozer to buy a better graphics card and get ready for battlefield 3 & skyrim

This post has been edited by najmul: Oct 13 2011, 11:55 AM

no doubt d management should bear most of d responsibilities. that's what they're paid to do & they failed miserably. i'm interested to see how can they change d things around. i'm not expectin huge changes but improvement is a must, & they need to come out with something fast coz as mentioned d gap is growing marginally wider ledi.

gettin one, yes, but oc d hell outta it, i doubt so.

With the HD 3000 series and forward, their die size is smaller than Nvidia's die sizes. In short, ATI was able to manufacture their GPUs much more cheaply than Nvidia could hope and was able to hit all the market segments at once (low, budget, mid, and high) with good GPUs; Nvidia's much larger chips took much longer to be shrunk in order to service the lower market segments and doing so cost Nvidia a lot.

In the case of Bulldozer, its die size is 45% larger than Intel's Sandy Bridge, so AMD is instead in Nvidia's position and Intel is in ATI's position.

This post has been edited by everling: Oct 13 2011, 12:31 PM

Another year of waiting gone down the drain!
This is manyak sadding!

Now Intel with the huge lead will screw us customers!

I applaud those who still would be considering buying BD. At least some monetary support is being to keep AMD afloat while they get their stuff together although I might add that major improvement may not come by refining the BD architecture. If it makes those who are buying or planning to buy BD feel better, then BF3 might give some motivation although this is a GPU limited test.

Global foundries had their new 32nm fab proclaimed largest fab newly built in new york and officially start their manufacturing next year 2012 , mayb we could hope for no more yielding issues .


U could imagine running anti virus scans , browsing over 30 tabs , plying PC games & video transcoding ; thats true multitask lols .