NF7/NF7-S Rev2.0 Modded Bios, : Discussions and Results :)
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 May 1 2005, 03:49 PM, updated 20y ago
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ABIT NF7 / NF7-S Rev2.0
Bios Version : D27 Bios name : 3DFire Change Log : - D23 3D Fire Interface - 3D Fire Ingredients included - D26 Mantarays XT PCR Patching[B] ive dl it from http://s6.invisionfree.com/underclock/inde...p?showtopic=393 how to change the 1T n 2T log??anyone ? This post has been edited by xcrue: May 28 2005, 01:18 AM |
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May 1 2005, 03:58 PM
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like this?
1T or 2T better? In order to update BIOS you have to have a flash program. Usually it is supplied by the motherboard manufacturer and is available from their website. Along with the latest version of the BIOS for the motherboard in a file, usually xxx.BIN although it may be called something else. However in almost every case they will advise you to boot into DOS and run their loader program to flash/update the BIOS. One way to do it: Copy their loader and BIOS update to a blank floppy. Make sure that your BIOS is set to boot from A: first. Put in a bootable DOS diskette in Drive A: and boot. Swap out the DOS diskette, put in the BIOS update disk and run the update program. |
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May 1 2005, 07:31 PM
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anyone can get over 240mhz with this bios? i cant ler....
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May 1 2005, 08:18 PM
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u update 1T or 2T??
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May 3 2005, 05:55 PM
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There's also another beta bios for the NF7/S from tictac here.
Bios Version : D27 Bios name : Taipan 0.1 EB ED Change Log : - 2T Timing Looks like it's based on the latest Abit bios v2.7: BIOS: nf7d27.exe Bios Issue Date:2004/11/22 Mirror Site: 1 2 BIOS ID:2.7 1. Updated SATA ROM V4.2.5.0. 2. Updated CPU micro code. 3. BIOS compile date: 11/22/2004 Interesting - I'm gonna compare this one with the D26 Mantaray XT soon. |
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May 19 2005, 11:21 PM
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how to create bios bootable disk?
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May 20 2005, 11:17 AM
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insert blank floppy disk in floppy drive.
double click My Computer. right click drive A (or whatever name you called your floppy) select format disk tick "Create an MS-DOS startup disk" click start Voila.. one bootable disk ready. 50 cent please. download the modded bios in a folder extract the content copy the awardbios (1)flash utility,(2)modded bios bin file (3)anything in that extracted folder lah  and paste them in the newly created boot/startup disk.voila again... another 50 cent please. Next flash the bios...  |
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May 20 2005, 11:31 AM
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even kacang putih method (provided u have bootable cd, ie winME )
boot fom cd then u r in dos mode, juz go to the bios file (provided bios file n flash utility in same directory  |
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May 20 2005, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(T0|\|`/ @ May 3 2005, 05:55 PM) There's also another beta bios for the NF7/S from tictac here. I wonder, apart from "how to update/flash bios", can we discuss the bios performance ere? I mean in terms of overclocking. Infact any modded bios, lazy to create more thread and don wanna waste bandwidth and couldn't find the previous thread disscussion about the modded NF7-S bios. Thread starter can or not?Bios Version : D27 Bios name : Taipan 0.1 EB ED Change Log : - 2T Timing Looks like it's based on the latest Abit bios v2.7: BIOS: nf7d27.exe Bios Issue Date:2004/11/22 Mirror Site: 1 2 BIOS ID:2.7 1. Updated SATA ROM V4.2.5.0. 2. Updated CPU micro code. 3. BIOS compile date: 11/22/2004 Interesting - I'm gonna compare this one with the D26 Mantaray XT soon.  So T0|\|`/, hows the performance? compared to the D26 Mantaray XT? U're using the 2T right? This post has been edited by amok: May 20 2005, 12:23 PM |
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May 20 2005, 01:56 PM
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does the bios from tictac have a 100% ok rate in lowyat.net users' mobo?
and uh..the cpu micro code support thingy is for sempron support? This post has been edited by ceo684: May 20 2005, 01:58 PM |
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May 22 2005, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 20 2005, 01:56 PM) does the bios from tictac have a 100% ok rate in lowyat.net users' mobo? Y.B. Tan Sri CEO, so far most of tictac's bios user is OK with the bios, infact they even gain better performance when using the bios, but not sure bout the beta version.and uh..the cpu micro code support thingy is for sempron support? I've tried with the AN7 modded bios by tictac a few months ago and gain a few MHz improvement (with standard bios with a mobile cpu, the memory is a bit reluctant to go above 215MHz but with modded bios >230Mhz is a jiff). regarding the cpu micro code, if the bios is based on the ori abit's latest micro code than the same micro code is used for the moded bios. Need to refer to the ori bios microcode description to confirm wheter it support sempron or not. |
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May 22 2005, 02:20 AM
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hey guys,1t or 2T better?
Anyway,i just update my official bios from Abit site. Will 1t or 2T bios sabotaj my mobo? |
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May 22 2005, 04:11 AM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ May 22 2005, 02:20 AM) hey guys,1t or 2T better? 1t is better, same reason with latency, the lower the better Anyway,i just update my official bios from Abit site. Will 1t or 2T bios sabotaj my mobo? |
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May 22 2005, 04:53 AM
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1T is better, but depends on what ram and mobo u're using... on an NF2 mobo + double sided ram, i'll recomend using 2T for stability and greater clock speed.
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May 22 2005, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(amok @ May 22 2005, 04:53 AM) 1T is better, but depends on what ram and mobo u're using... on an NF2 mobo + double sided ram, i'll recomend using 2T for stability and greater clock speed. how far you manage to get with D27 fire? |
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May 22 2005, 04:14 PM
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THankx Apexi78 and AMOk
i'm using nf7-s with 2 stick of corsair bh-6,so 2T?instead of lastest bios from Abit site,will 1T n 2T give better results? |
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May 22 2005, 05:25 PM
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1T of course will give better result without doubt.
2T is a significantly slower than 1T in AMD64 system because of integrated memory controller. Xcrue, normally, for us to understand better the actual behavior of the RAM, there is a program called Sisoft Sandra. No matter what settings that you set, you can keep an eye on whether it improves or degrade performance by looking at the memory bandwidth. Hope my suggestion helps though... |
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May 22 2005, 07:07 PM
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YEa..thankx for your suggestion.
Will try 1T thn 2T.. Defauly bios now give my ram 94-95%bandwith |
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May 22 2005, 07:31 PM
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try vdimm mod
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May 22 2005, 10:11 PM
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i don't know how to shouder the mobo's pin ..AHA.. uknow?
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May 22 2005, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ May 22 2005, 10:11 PM) i don't know how to shouder the mobo's pin ..AHA.. uknow? It's a simple mod, get someone whois familar with soldering to do it for you. |
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May 23 2005, 01:23 AM
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sorry is "solder",ahah
u familiar with it? i doubt later my mobo no more warranty from abit. what max Vdimm can go after mod ? |
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May 23 2005, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ May 23 2005, 01:23 AM) sorry is "solder",ahah it's depend on your psu 3.3v rail.u familiar with it? i doubt later my mobo no more warranty from abit. what max Vdimm can go after mod ? I'm using acbel 450w, after modding, i manage to get 3.26v since the 3.3v rail reading is 3.3v |
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May 23 2005, 04:03 PM
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ic.. my FSP got +3.34 at (+3.3v rail)
so can manage to go til 3.3Vdimm? |
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May 23 2005, 04:07 PM
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actually whats the point of using a diskete or cd to store your bios
u can straight away use abit's bios flashing tool. browse around thier software, u can find it. i think is abit flash menu 4 or something like that |
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May 23 2005, 04:29 PM
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yeah..Abit Flashing is the easiest i found.
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May 23 2005, 09:03 PM
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ya, i used flash menu 1.36 on all my abit boards. wish asus got something similar. dont trust floppies
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May 23 2005, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(gsan @ May 22 2005, 08:57 AM) how far you manage to get with D27 fire? result?... so far oni like this--->Tictac's D27 3Dfire on Mobile XP2600 with NF7S rev 2.0 |
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May 24 2005, 12:05 AM
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what's the difference between 1/2T and D27?
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May 24 2005, 12:06 AM
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im using mantaray
highest i got was 251mhz that was with super relax timing decided to go back to 240 with tighter timing |
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May 25 2005, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ May 24 2005, 12:06 AM) im using mantaray Oh, you did get above 251Mhz with mantaray... what chips is your ram? single/double sided? A lot of the mantaray's users reported a good result with the bios, i dunno cause now i'm trying with the d27 3D fire (2T).. still burning in though.highest i got was 251mhz that was with super relax timing decided to go back to 240 with tighter timing |
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May 25 2005, 06:30 PM
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how come when i update D27 taipan
my mobo detect no sound? |
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May 25 2005, 06:32 PM
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did u lock the pci and disable the enhance pci perf.?
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May 26 2005, 01:38 AM
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nope..nf7-s got onboard sound..
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May 26 2005, 02:18 PM
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pci bus >37mhz might cause sound and other pci things not to work right. that onboard sound is also pci based, only that its integrated.
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May 26 2005, 02:47 PM
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i m using D10 for NF7 v2.0, is this bios more stable for overclocking?~
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May 26 2005, 05:31 PM
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Aiks, D10 was the first bios lah, D26/27 shud be the best
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May 26 2005, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(sexualpower @ May 26 2005, 02:47 PM) i m using D10 for NF7 v2.0, is this bios more stable for overclocking?~ depends... my favourite bios is D10 alsolast time i paired D10 with 1700+ Jiuhb DLt3c + L12 mod to 166MHz .... can do 240MHz... & 2.5GHz  click Super Pi 1M link in my sign below... that is my best result with D10 bios .....  |
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May 27 2005, 02:10 AM
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@ceo,what should i do to enable the sound??
btw,1T n 2T got no problem at all @tictac,what ram are u using??got mod Vdimm?  This post has been edited by xcrue: May 27 2005, 02:14 AM |
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May 27 2005, 02:22 PM
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ram... 1x256MB Corsair XMS PC2700 platinum series
no vdimm mod... evrything at stock... only L12 mod on processor socket |
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May 27 2005, 09:09 PM
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thanks, sifu!~
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May 27 2005, 09:55 PM
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can oc til 2.5ghz??
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May 27 2005, 11:32 PM
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hey xcrue.. may i suggest you change the title of your thread to a: NF7/NF7-S Rev2.0 Modded Bios: Discussions and Results Please? Cause I'm sure a lot of us NF7/NF7-S modded bios user will contribute and perhaps the mod/staff can combine another thread about the D26Matarays with this one..Just my 2 rupiah... but surely i'll be your strongest supporter for this thread .. and nice to see sifoo tictac here commenting and guiding us |
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May 28 2005, 01:08 AM
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yes!!changed ady..hehe
i tried D26 1 T but not so good..omg |
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May 29 2005, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ May 28 2005, 12:56 AM) nice,what fsb n multiplier u using?cant contact the french ..my mobo cant go more thn 225fsb...why? Actually xcrue what are you trying to achieve?1. Highest GHz 2. Highest Benchmark score If Highest GHz.. i'd suggest u try loosing you ram timings and is your ram one sided or two sided ram (i'm not familiar with corsair's) 1 sided (as in you chips oni on one side of the ram pcb) will work great on 1T and vice versa.. If highest bechmark score/highest fsb.. well.. tight timings at high fsb, then again you bh6's is oni fed with max Vdimm of 2.9, sad to say but it's either you do a Vdimm mod or OCZ DDR booster. Do take note that if using the D27 3D fire bios, you'll need to do an L12 hard mod for your board cause the L12 soft mod is not included with the bios.. (correct me if i'm wrong tictac ) |
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May 29 2005, 02:39 PM
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D27 3D fire bios??taipan bios ?but i'm using 1T D27 now..cant feel anything..
omg,hav2 mod again?pening,ahha This post has been edited by xcrue: May 29 2005, 02:50 PM |
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May 29 2005, 02:50 PM
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I'm confused.....I have a single sided 256Mb Stick and what will give me higher FSB: 1T or 2T?
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May 29 2005, 08:49 PM
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1t and 2 T is what?
izzt just for INTEL proc? |
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May 29 2005, 10:51 PM
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aiseh..... suddenly INTEL comin.....
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May 29 2005, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(tictac @ May 29 2005, 10:51 PM) aiseh..... suddenly INTEL comin..... yalo....1t and 2T is what? |
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May 30 2005, 12:47 AM
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1T or 2T is command rate similar to CPC ON or CPC OFF.
To simplify, 1T is faster dude..... |
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May 30 2005, 01:27 AM
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can it be done with my system as my sig?
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May 31 2005, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ May 29 2005, 02:39 PM) D27 3D fire bios??taipan bios ?but i'm using 1T D27 now..cant feel anything.. aiyah just a simple wire mod, will take less than 5 minutes, it's worth it la. omg,hav2 mod again?pening,ahha QUOTE(Dead__Man @ May 29 2005, 02:50 PM) I'm confused.....I have a single sided 256Mb Stick and what will give me higher FSB: 1T or 2T? Try 1T, double sided rams work best with 2T on an NF2 chipset... but benchies scores're a bit whoosy(the 2T one).QUOTE(Mr_47 @ May 29 2005, 08:49 PM) [/B]izzt just for INTEL proc?[B] QUOTE(tictac @ May 29 2005, 10:51 PM) aiseh..... suddenly INTEL comin..... QUOTE(Mr_47 @ May 30 2005, 01:27 AM) can it be done with my system as my sig? well, sir, if you're planning to flash the modded bios (1T or 2T depending on you ram), yes it can be done to your NF7-S ver2 rig, cause we're discussing about it now, in this thread i mean. The L12 mod oso can be done to you mobo and thanks again to mr dictionary, Mr PCcrazy for sorting things out in here |
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May 31 2005, 10:29 PM
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i wanna know
wat if the PC dont have floppy drive? can use bootable disc? |
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May 31 2005, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 31 2005, 10:29 PM) i wanna know of coz can..but u can flash it with flash menu in windows wat if the PC dont have floppy drive? can use bootable disc?  |
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Jun 2 2005, 11:07 AM
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ya,very easy to update bios with flashmenu
@Amok,how to mod the wire thingy for 1T bios? need some guide,heehe |
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Jun 2 2005, 01:16 PM
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ya.. i also used flashmenu for hotswaping.... can recover dead bios chip.. its easy
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Jun 2 2005, 01:46 PM
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@tictac,how to mod L12?
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Jun 8 2005, 04:41 PM
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any guide to mod L12 ??
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Jun 8 2005, 11:16 PM
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L12 mod? Google and ye shall find
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Jun 8 2005, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Jun 8 2005, 04:41 PM) any guide to mod L12 ?? no dare to mod vdimm but dare to mod L12 ?  |
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Jun 9 2005, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Jun 8 2005, 04:41 PM) any guide to mod L12 ?? well xcrue.. which L12 mod you want? The soft mod L12 or the wire mod L12.. most of tictac's modded bios are L12 soft mod embedded.. except for the D27 modded bios which required the wire mod... just be vewy-vewy carefull when doing the wire mod eventhough it's look easy. |
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Jun 11 2005, 03:06 PM
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how to do the wire mod???
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Jun 12 2005, 01:27 AM
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Just a quickie... I notice a sudden drop in sandra's scores when using modded bios (D26 and D27), has anyone experieced this or my mobo goneded ledy
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Jun 12 2005, 10:49 AM
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@ amok
which mod. bios you tried ? normally tictac's bios give lower momery bandwidth than merlin's one. have you try tictac's d27 fire 3D ? I cant get fsb over 230mhz....  |
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Jun 12 2005, 02:13 PM
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normally the soft L12 are not as good as the wire trick L12
i use to remove the L12 Wire trick to prove it..... and i got stable at 240Mhz only.... can't go 250+ stable without that wire trick... |
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Jun 12 2005, 05:00 PM
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my nf7 cant go more than 220fsb without modding...
need some advise on wire trick guys |
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Jun 12 2005, 11:13 PM
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vyvy noob question here...
NF7-S2 can change multiplier , voltage ? |
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Jun 13 2005, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jun 12 2005, 10:49 AM) @ amok Well it was both the D26 Mantaray's and D27 3D fire's bios by Tictacs.. my max fsb is 245 (with L12 wire mod of course) but i've got some temp issue which causes instability when priming.which mod. bios you tried ? normally tictac's bios give lower momery bandwidth than merlin's one. have you try tictac's d27 fire 3D ? I cant get fsb over 230mhz.... |
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Jun 20 2005, 10:51 PM
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i think do the wiremod yet.ahah..scare risky
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Jun 21 2005, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(StarNet @ Jun 12 2005, 02:13 PM) normally the soft L12 are not as good as the wire trick L12 sound like wire trick can give extra fsb, going to mod soon i use to remove the L12 Wire trick to prove it..... and i got stable at 240Mhz only.... can't go 250+ stable without that wire trick... |
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Jun 23 2005, 01:55 PM
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using mantaray xt d26. want to ask about l12 soft mod. is it enabled automatically? how to set it to 166 or 200? i use athlon xpm 2600+ 133fsb. want to set 200fsb default.
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Jun 25 2005, 01:20 AM
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if 200 fsb u can set at bios...
if u wanna do l12 wiremod u can refer to previous post by amok.. |
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Jun 25 2005, 07:35 AM
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@ amok
one question here, i wonder how you connect the wire for the L12 mod? going to mod soon but no idea about it |
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Jun 25 2005, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jun 25 2005, 08:35 AM) @ amok u got the pics rite ? i suggest better use tictac's for more stability one question here, i wonder how you connect the wire for the L12 mod? going to mod soon but no idea about it juz use a very very small piece of wire from fan's wire there... lol .... very small to fit in rite ? handle it with care good luck~ |
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Jun 25 2005, 11:40 AM
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my hardwired L12 mod
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Jun 25 2005, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(techno_fanatics @ Jun 25 2005, 11:40 AM) my hardwired L12 mod thanks for sharing, btw,yours mod is based on tictac's way? got 1 more question, just put the wire inside without coiling become a circle?  This post has been edited by gsan: Jun 25 2005, 01:42 PM |
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just want to ask how to check my bios version for NF7..?thanks
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Jun 25 2005, 08:49 PM
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hey sifu,
cannot fit with my proc at all after i putting the wire.... cannot find a very very very thin wire la... This post has been edited by gsan: Jun 25 2005, 08:59 PM |
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Jun 25 2005, 09:27 PM
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NF7 masters:
can I also just slightly put some sloder on the pins of the CPU instead of the socket? |
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Jun 26 2005, 12:01 AM
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wat kind of slim wires u guys use?
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Jun 26 2005, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Jun 26 2005, 12:01 AM) wat kind of slim wires u guys use? I tried with the wire inside the telephone line but it's too thick for me, cant fit with my proc at all afterwards.  |
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Jun 26 2005, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jun 26 2005, 01:16 AM) I tried with the wire inside the telephone line but it's too thick for me, cant fit with my proc at all afterwards. i told u liao mar.... best to put the fans wire from molex cut it and u got it all.... i used those to put le.... very nice~ try it... |
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Jun 26 2005, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(StarNet @ Jun 26 2005, 12:41 AM) i told u liao mar.... best to put the fans wire from molex tried too but it cannot fix the proc, no dare to give a little pressure on it, scare later the pin patah pula cut it and u got it all.... i used those to put le.... very nice~ try it... |
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Jun 26 2005, 01:01 AM
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must mod two wires there?or juz 166or200?
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Jun 26 2005, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jun 26 2005, 01:51 AM) tried too but it cannot fix the proc, no dare to give a little pressure on it, scare later the pin patah pula err .... in my case can le.... ngam ngam tat kind~ suppose can de le.... u use 1 small piece only rite ? try to put it stick tepi la |
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Jun 26 2005, 01:47 AM
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i use the small wire from the electric shop.. scrape abit 2 make thinner
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Jun 27 2005, 11:05 AM
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use the very small one...
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Jun 29 2005, 11:48 AM
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aik? what happened? I thought we're discussing modded bios ere? Now becoming L12 mod pulak
,Neway, can the modded bios user post here their best achievement on NF7S mobo here? I'll start when i can find my pics, , how bout like this1. Pics of cpu-z (for confirmation of claims) 2. Type of bios and by whom 3. Type of stick(s) (ram). I'll post mine after find my pics |
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Jun 29 2005, 12:29 PM
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i've tried to clock but the default clock to 3200XP from the bios, also not stable. increased vcore and other things, still cannot...will this bios help me?
barton2500 2x256 hyperX pc2700 abit nf7 |
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Jun 29 2005, 12:30 PM
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1.75-1.825v also cannot? try loosening ram to 2.5-3-3-8 at 2.7v vdimm?
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Jun 29 2005, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 29 2005, 12:30 PM) 1.75-1.825v also cannot? try loosening ram to 2.5-3-3-8 at 2.7v vdimm? until 1.8 also cannot. oops nvr tweaked the ram before,default is 2-2-2-5. i up the ram voltage to 2.9 only. so now din clock. |
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Jun 29 2005, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Jun 29 2005, 12:29 PM) i've tried to clock but the default clock to 3200XP from the bios, also not stable. increased vcore and other things, still cannot...will this bios help me? probably will help, now im on the latest bios from abit (D27 i tink), can do 200 easily with 1.95v, previously need 2vbarton2500 2x256 hyperX pc2700 abit nf7 |
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Jun 29 2005, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(amok @ Jun 29 2005, 11:48 AM) 1. Pics of cpu-z (for confirmation of claims) 2. Type of bios and by whom 3. Type of stick(s) (ram). I'll post mine after find my pics  2. Tictac's D27-3Dfire bios 3. 1 x KVR BT-D43 512K very loose timings of 3-4-4-11 |
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Jun 29 2005, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 29 2005, 01:03 PM) probably will help, now im on the latest bios from abit (D27 i tink), can do 200 easily with 1.95v, previously need 2v wah need so much vcore? nvrmind i will get the bios first, D27 right, 1T or 2T?do i need to do the L12 mod? This post has been edited by cubchai: Jun 29 2005, 03:44 PM |
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Jun 29 2005, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Jun 29 2005, 03:41 PM) wah need so much vcore? nvrmind i will get the bios first, D27 right, 1T or 2T? cubchai what rams're u using? single sided rams best with 1T and double sided with 2T. L12 mod? If the bios doesn't have the soft mod L12 mebbe you can do the wire mod.do i need to do the L12 mod? |
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Jun 29 2005, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(amok @ Jun 29 2005, 07:48 PM) cubchai what rams're u using? single sided rams best with 1T and double sided with 2T. L12 mod? If the bios doesn't have the soft mod L12 mebbe you can do the wire mod. dunno wo, the ram with blue sinks covered(KHX-2700). if i use 1T i need to L12 mod? now i'm using 1T, cos i felt not smooth with 2T...now still haven't clock. |
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Jun 29 2005, 08:30 PM
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using tictac's mantaray xt
i can achieve 235. dont want to go higher as my rams suck at higher speed. currently ram's are doing 2.5/3/3/11 which i think brings the best performance ratio that i can have at 235mhz |
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Jun 29 2005, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Jun 29 2005, 08:29 PM) dunno wo, the ram with blue sinks covered(KHX-2700). if i use 1T i need to L12 mod? now i'm using 1T, cos i felt not smooth with 2T...now still haven't clock. yours is the single sided ram, try loosen up the timings when oc'ing then oni tweak to the tightest stable one. Wheter must mod the L12 or not mebbe my post in this thread can give you the idea here.Click here :Should mod L12 or Not?QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Jun 29 2005, 08:30 PM) using tictac's mantaray xt Hey a lot of users are having a good oc with tictac's mantaray's bios, i can achieve 235. dont want to go higher as my rams suck at higher speed. currently ram's are doing 2.5/3/3/11 which i think brings the best performance ratio that i can have at 235mhz , It was based on the D26 Abit bios and tictac and his team did well in improvising them... dang, wish i've joined this forum earlier. This post has been edited by amok: Jun 29 2005, 09:09 PM |
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Jun 29 2005, 09:24 PM
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thank you amok...i'm not OC'ing to get highest speed, just want to clock it above 2.0 or maybe a bit more...still wondering wat software to do burn in...tried sisoft. priming not sure how to use, got 3 options. any advice? the fundamentals only recommend softwares to be used but not how to use them.
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Jun 29 2005, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Jun 29 2005, 03:41 PM) wah need so much vcore? nvrmind i will get the bios first, D27 right, 1T or 2T? haha..my 1800 is a volt sucker do i need to do the L12 mod? |
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Jun 29 2005, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 29 2005, 10:39 PM) haha..my 1800 is a volt sucker now only i noticed from ur nick u haf a few rigs. where's ur location? kinda interested in ur 20gigs. |
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Jun 30 2005, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(amok @ May 20 2005, 12:17 PM) So T0|\|`/, hows the performance? compared to the D26 Mantaray XT? U're using the 2T right? eh, sorry ah, I thought this thread had died after almost a month of no-replies.To be honest, I kinda liked the Taipan after running stable at 2505Mhz, but the temps were worrying so I've dropped it down to 2405. Seeing this thread again has reminded me to retest the Mantaray and 3dfire (if I managed to d/l it before the board went down). |
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Jun 30 2005, 11:55 AM
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im from klang, the 20gb's can collect in KL or PJ. (most likely lowyat)
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Jul 2 2005, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Jun 29 2005, 09:24 PM) thank you amok...i'm not OC'ing to get highest speed, just want to clock it above 2.0 or maybe a bit more...still wondering wat software to do burn in...tried sisoft. priming not sure how to use, got 3 options. any advice? the fundamentals only recommend softwares to be used but not how to use them. For burning in try cpu-burn in.. download it here Click CPU Burn-In Page. when running the burn in s/ware, tick disable error checking for maximum heat generation, burn in at least 5 hrs.. and, good luck. QUOTE(T0|\|`/ @ Jun 30 2005, 11:12 AM) eh, sorry ah, I thought this thread had died after almost a month of no-replies. What happened? How come you mobo went down (sorry i didn't go through all the forums here if you'd posted it).. Neway, we're collecting results now, if xcrue can build a d/base it'll be great To be honest, I kinda liked the Taipan after running stable at 2505Mhz, but the temps were worrying so I've dropped it down to 2405. Seeing this thread again has reminded me to retest the Mantaray and 3dfire (if I managed to d/l it before the board went down). .EDIT: Link was broken This post has been edited by amok: Jul 2 2005, 12:54 AM |
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Jul 2 2005, 01:01 AM
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i wonder why tictac didnt put L12 softmod into the D27 3Dfire? I cant get stable above 230fsb.
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Jul 4 2005, 01:42 PM
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i just download and install it with abit flash
easy! bench come later This post has been edited by Mr_47: Jul 4 2005, 03:02 PM |
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Jul 4 2005, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jul 2 2005, 01:01 AM) i wonder why tictac didnt put L12 softmod into the D27 3Dfire? I cant get stable above 230fsb. .. i just be thankfull, someone did had time to mod the bios..  , Your 230fsb with what Vdimm? Mem chips? L12 mod? |
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Jul 4 2005, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(amok @ Jul 4 2005, 04:05 PM) .. i just be thankfull, someone did had time to mod the bios.. , Your 230fsb with what Vdimm? Mem chips? L12 mod? |
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Jul 4 2005, 07:52 PM
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manage to get fsb 220 here with system spec as siggy!
power supply 450w = RM 35 This post has been edited by Mr_47: Jul 5 2005, 02:26 AM |
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Jul 4 2005, 11:37 PM
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i tried D27 1T..cant more than 225fsb.
any others bios that can reach more than 225???D26? Using 2x2 Corsairs Xms Bh-6 i tried my friend's 1GB kingston BT-43,cant reach more than 230..izzit bcoz of the L12 mod? my friend can reach 250easily wif his winchester+fatality |
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Jul 4 2005, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Jul 4 2005, 11:37 PM) i tried D27 1T..cant more than 225fsb. I've the same problem as you, cant get 230fsb with d27 3dfire. but for others such as d27 taipan, d26 speed fire, d25 3dfire, i can get at least 250fsb.any others bios that can reach more than 225???D26? Using 2x2 Corsairs Xms Bh-6 i tried my friend's 1GB kingston BT-43,cant reach more than 230..izzit bcoz of the L12 mod? my friend can reach 250easily wif his winchester+fatality |
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Jul 5 2005, 12:47 AM
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so which one is da best mod bios for NF7/NF7-s?
i heard that d26 black/xt mantary is good! so how? how far can locked barton 2500+ multp 11.0 can go without L12 mod? can it reach at least 230 fsb? i think for me 220x11 is my max,,, coz max temp while burning 3dmark2003/05/games = 57 celc! This post has been edited by Mr_47: Jul 5 2005, 02:29 AM |
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jul 5 2005, 12:47 AM) so which one is da best mod bios for NF7/NF7-s? L12 mod can be done bu pinmod anyway...i heard that d26 black/xt mantary is good! so how? how far can locked barton 2500+ multp 11.0 can go without L12 mod? can it reach at least 230 fsb? i think for me 220x11 is my max,,, coz max temp while burning 3dmark2003/05/games = 57 celc! L12 mod for sure will reach for FSB.. tested before =) This post has been edited by cyberloner: Jul 5 2005, 02:49 AM |
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Jul 5 2005, 11:43 PM
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Jul 6 2005, 11:30 PM
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btw..i tried D26,but no sounds although install driver..how?
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Jul 7 2005, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Jul 6 2005, 11:30 PM) btw..i tried D26,but no sounds although install driver..how? if u use 2 sound system such as on board sound and another soundcard stick on pci slot,,, just disable the onboard sound at the bios! |
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Jul 8 2005, 08:37 PM
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BAD NEWS!!!
GUYS!!Dont update D27 Taipan 2T on ur mobo!!!! last 2 days when i flash bios to 2T from 1T and restart PC,my mobo got "BURN"smell!!!now it already for RMA..the distributor say need 2 months!!!and no warranty for BURN!! STPD D27 Taiapn 2t!!! |
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Jul 8 2005, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Jul 8 2005, 08:37 PM) BAD NEWS!!! really!GUYS!!Dont update D27 Taipan 2T on ur mobo!!!! last 2 days when i flash bios to 2T from 1T and restart PC,my mobo got "BURN"smell!!!now it already for RMA..the distributor say need 2 months!!!and no warranty for BURN!! STPD D27 Taiapn 2t!!! using here and just okay! BTW: i dont like it AND NF7D27-3DFIRE-2T rockz more! This post has been edited by Mr_47: Jul 8 2005, 08:43 PM |
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Jul 8 2005, 09:25 PM
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my mobo burn!!!shit
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Jul 9 2005, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Jul 8 2005, 09:25 PM) my mobo burn!!!shit okay i'm sorry about that,,, i'm gonna stay away from taipan.! |
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jul 5 2005, 11:43 PM) Wow 265FSB! That's fairly high for an Abit. Which bios are u using? |
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Jul 9 2005, 11:11 AM
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Just did the L12 wire mod. Load optimised defaults in bios and I got 166mhz fsb. Havent push to higher fsb but in sandra memory benchmark, i got lower bandwidth.
Updated: Just flash to D27 3Dfire 1T and finally i got 252fsb. Will push higher soon This post has been edited by gsan: Jul 9 2005, 11:35 AM |
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Jul 9 2005, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Jul 8 2005, 08:37 PM) BAD NEWS!!! GUYS!!Dont update D27 Taipan 2T on ur mobo!!!! last 2 days when i flash bios to 2T from 1T and restart PC,my mobo got "BURN"smell!!!now it already for RMA..the distributor say need 2 months!!!and no warranty for BURN!! STPD D27 Taiapn 2t!!! .. wow xcrue.. really sorry to hear about your mobo burned shit thing.. .. How about other D27 Taipain user? Got any problems? Neway, i only use the D27 3Dfire 2T by tictac.. if sh@t happens i can pm him QUOTE(gsan @ Jul 9 2005, 11:11 AM) Just did the L12 wire mod. Load optimised defaults in bios and I got 166mhz fsb. Havent push to higher fsb but in sandra memory benchmark, i got lower bandwidth. Updated: Just flash to D27 3Dfire 1T and finally i got 252fsb. Will push higher soon gsan, that's it man , you're using a delicious chips, can push higher meh..by the way as for the rest the tictac's D27 3Dfire does not include the soft L12 mod.. you have to do the wire mod your self. |
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Jul 9 2005, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Jul 9 2005, 04:15 AM) Wow 265FSB! That's fairly high for an Abit. Which bios are u using? using d26 MantaRays XT...ya for sure got L12 mod |
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jul 9 2005, 12:56 PM) using d26 MantaRays XT...ya for sure got L12 mod woow.... you run 265fsb, synchronous with your ram? have you did vdd mod?  |
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Jul 9 2005, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jul 9 2005, 01:46 PM) woow.... you run 265fsb, synchronous with your ram? have you did vdd mod? yup...got |
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Jul 9 2005, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jul 9 2005, 12:56 PM) using d26 MantaRays XT...ya for sure got L12 mod bro did d26 MantaRays XT hav 2t ? |
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Jul 9 2005, 11:03 PM
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anyone tried vdd pencil trick? could you show me the correct way to pencil it?
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Jul 9 2005, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jul 9 2005, 10:41 PM) bro did d26 MantaRays XT hav 2t ? Yeah it has 2T too. I'm using it now. So far so good. |
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Where can i get d26 mantaray Xt bios? And do i need a floopy to do flash it? Abit Flashmenu izzit from the cd? Mine stuck at 219 FSB with D13.
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Jul 10 2005, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jul 9 2005, 10:41 PM) bro did d26 MantaRays XT hav 2t ? hmm...ya...is 2tQUOTE(gsan @ Jul 9 2005, 11:03 PM) anyone tried vdd pencil trick? could you show me the correct way to pencil it? i wil show u some pic how i mod... btw...i still cant pass 267fsb...in tis fsb can go in windows...but windows login sound like lagging lagging sound, n my pc become vyvy slow...anyone know wat problem?? izzit my ram max fsb or not enough voltage i am using enemax 600watt psu. This post has been edited by kelvin_hata: Jul 10 2005, 12:10 AM |
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jul 10 2005, 12:00 AM) hmm...ya...is 2t maybe due to your southbridge overheat... any cooler on it?i wil show u some pic how i mod... btw...i still cant pass 267fsb...in tis fsb can go in windows...but windows login sound like lagging lagging sound, n my pc become vyvy slow...anyone know wat problem?? izzit my ram max fsb or not enough voltage i am using enemax 600watt psu. |
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Jul 10 2005, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jul 10 2005, 12:15 AM) maybe due to your southbridge overheat... any cooler on it? got...but the problem is same...i think the ram voltage problem cos onli 3.3v edit:- now burn in wit 260fsb This post has been edited by kelvin_hata: Jul 10 2005, 12:39 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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I still curious bout CPU INTERFACE in the bios. Should i set it disable or enable to get high Fsb? In D26 mantaray XT , the vdimm is 2.4-2.7 only? Not 2.9?
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jul 10 2005, 01:08 AM) I still curious bout CPU INTERFACE in the bios. Should i set it disable or enable to get high Fsb? In D26 mantaray XT , the vdimm is 2.4-2.7 only? Not 2.9? huh mine is 2.9 wor...but after mod...2.9 is 3.3v ok...260fsb can pass 1 hours oredi... This post has been edited by kelvin_hata: Jul 10 2005, 02:00 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jul 10 2005, 01:59 AM) huh your ram eat 3.3 v mine is 2.9 wor...but after mod...2.9 is 3.3v ok...260fsb can pass 1 hours oredi...  how do you cool it down? |
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jul 10 2005, 02:05 AM) your ram eat 3.3 v i use cosiar ram...it come wit heatsink...but 3.3 not the higher ler...some ppl do at 3.6v n 3.7v wor... how do you cool it down? |
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jul 10 2005, 01:59 AM) huh How to mod it? Any where i can find the guide for L12 mod? mine is 2.9 wor...but after mod...2.9 is 3.3v ok...260fsb can pass 1 hours oredi... |
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Jul 10 2005, 09:13 AM
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got any new official bios or not?
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Jul 10 2005, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jul 10 2005, 01:08 AM) I still curious bout CPU INTERFACE in the bios. Should i set it disable or enable to get high Fsb? In D26 mantaray XT , the vdimm is 2.4-2.7 only? Not 2.9? Leave CPU INTERFACE ONu get higher memory bandwidht with it and better performance in super pi and overall system performance if you turn it off, you get higher fsb...but most of the time, lower clock can already achieve what you achieve at higher fsb with CPU interface on. make sure its on la i can do 245 with cpu interface. but when i use 230 mhz with cpu interface on, my sandra memory benchmark is higher than the 245( Cpu interface off) at the same timing This post has been edited by thefryingfox: Jul 10 2005, 09:19 AM |
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Jul 10 2005, 09:37 AM
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ok thanksw for the info
i will leave my cpu interface enale than... how about cpu thermal throttlinf shoul i disable it as well? |
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Jul 10 2005, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Jul 10 2005, 09:13 AM) got any new official bios or not? check here http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/bios/bio...ies=1&model=124 |
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Jul 10 2005, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Jul 10 2005, 09:37 AM) ok thanksw for the info thermal throttle should be turn off for more stable oci will leave my cpu interface enale than... how about cpu thermal throttlinf shoul i disable it as well? |
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Jul 10 2005, 12:12 PM
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Tictac, why u didnt try come out a new bios tat will report the processor in PR rating? Sometime when other ppl c 2.4ghz Axp, they say it slower den their 3000+ . >_< Since u can change the name for mobile Ahtlon to AXP-M sure u can do it. ^^ My 2nd soltek mobo bios can report in PR. I wonder why abit didnt do it.
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Jul 10 2005, 08:45 PM
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someone should post something about bios tweaking!
- such as what to on an off at the bios! |
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Jul 10 2005, 11:39 PM
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no people try vdd pencil trick?
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Jul 11 2005, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jul 10 2005, 11:39 PM) no people try vdd pencil trick? gsan wat voltage u set on ur vdd?? |
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Jul 11 2005, 12:47 AM
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1.7v, i tried with the vdd pencil trick, but measure with multimeter, the vdd voltage still same, no increase.
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Jul 11 2005, 01:39 PM
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me now using d26 MantaRays XT 2T
best for my rig! This post has been edited by Mr_47: Jul 11 2005, 01:39 PM |
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Jul 11 2005, 04:09 PM
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I found that D26 MantaRays Xt 2T giv me less Bandwidth efficiency but can go higher FSB. Btw any guide for Vdd pencil mod?
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Jul 11 2005, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jul 11 2005, 12:47 AM) 1.7v, i tried with the vdd pencil trick, but measure with multimeter, the vdd voltage still same, no increase. if ya follow it exactly like the guide, it won;t work...i've tried shading the resistor or watever it is wif a few stroke using a 2b pencil but nothing happens...then i tried 10-20 strokes only 0.05v increment then when i cover the whole thing with led it's slightly higher than wat i wanted (2.1v max) and i hafto repeat the process for quite a lot of times b4 i manage to tweak it according to wat i wanted |
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Jul 11 2005, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(evildonkey @ Jul 11 2005, 04:17 PM) if ya follow it exactly like the guide, it won;t work...i've tried shading the resistor or watever it is wif a few stroke using a 2b pencil but nothing happens...then i tried 10-20 strokes only 0.05v increment then when i cover the whole thing with led it's slightly higher than wat i wanted (2.1v max) and i hafto repeat the process for quite a lot of times b4 i manage to tweak it according to wat i wanted so, could you show me how do you pencil it? izzit pencil the whole resistor or just around the side of it?  |
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Jul 12 2005, 03:48 AM
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just pencil the whole resistor....at least tat's wat i;m doing...there's so lil space in the side u can't possible put enuogh led there to not intefere with other resistors or wateve besides it
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Jul 12 2005, 01:00 PM
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L12 wiretrick is better thn pencil's i guess.
Guys, dont try D27 Taipan 2T with 250x10bios.AHAH D27 Taipan 1T is much better |
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Jul 12 2005, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jul 11 2005, 04:09 PM) I found that D26 MantaRays Xt 2T giv me less Bandwidth efficiency but can go higher FSB. Btw any guide for Vdd pencil mod? D27 3DFire 2T vs D26 MantaRays Xt 2T give me same bandwidth in my rig This post has been edited by Mr_47: Jul 12 2005, 04:12 PM |
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Jul 12 2005, 09:24 PM
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i dunno bout u guys but had any 1 tried burning their proc using a program named S&M??? i'm having issues like auto-reboot in the middle when the prog is stressing my system memory...only occurs when i use modded bios D26 Mantaray XT and D27 3DFIRE (only tried both of these though) even when everything is running stock....everything seems to be ok when i switched back to stock D27 bios....just wondering whether any others if experiencing the same thing as i am
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Jul 13 2005, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(evildonkey @ Jul 12 2005, 09:24 PM) i dunno bout u guys but had any 1 tried burning their proc using a program named S&M??? i'm having issues like auto-reboot in the middle when the prog is stressing my system memory...only occurs when i use modded bios D26 Mantaray XT and D27 3DFIRE (only tried both of these though) even when everything is running stock....everything seems to be ok when i switched back to stock D27 bios....just wondering whether any others if experiencing the same thing as i am S&Mmmmm.......never heard about it! BTW: gonna search and try it later. |
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Jul 13 2005, 11:33 PM
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Any One Want To Buy
NF7-S V2.0 Please PM Me Thanks |
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Jul 14 2005, 09:33 PM
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why wanna sell?ahah
anyone get RMA for nf7-s before???how long? |
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Jul 18 2005, 08:18 PM
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wats the best bios for nfs-s2??
i'm asking for my fren i'm using amd xp 1800+ , 768mb ram, gf4ti4200 |
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Jul 18 2005, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Jul 14 2005, 09:33 PM) why wanna sell?ahah normally it takes 2 monthsanyone get RMA for nf7-s before???how long? |
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Jul 18 2005, 08:47 PM
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double post
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Jul 19 2005, 12:20 AM
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guys....Now da bios canot run alr .. monitor onli flashing.
how 2 recover it bac... i try reset da cmos..alsO same help me |
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Jul 19 2005, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jul 19 2005, 12:20 AM) guys....Now da bios canot run alr .. monitor onli flashing. what type of bios that still stuck in the pc?how 2 recover it bac... i try reset da cmos..alsO same help me |
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Jul 19 2005, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jul 19 2005, 12:20 AM) guys....Now da bios canot run alr .. monitor onli flashing. omg...i think u need hotflash jor loh... how 2 recover it bac... i try reset da cmos..alsO same help me try tekan the "insert" key at ur keyboard wen u turn on pc...see can help or not... good luck |
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Jul 19 2005, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jul 19 2005, 12:20 AM) guys....Now da bios canot run alr .. monitor onli flashing. sound like a corrupted bios, any other symtoms? how 2 recover it bac... i try reset da cmos..alsO same help me .. try pm'ing mhn21 or sarjan hassan.. they'll know what to do. |
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Jul 19 2005, 12:59 AM
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NORMAL question( nothing to do with any error,,,)
can anyone tell me how to reset the cmos (BIOS setting) - without to set jumpers - without to take out and put back the cmos battery my mobo is NF7 plain with D26 mantarays XT 2t bios BTW: i'm just too lazy to open the pc casing! This post has been edited by Mr_47: Jul 19 2005, 01:04 AM |
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Jul 19 2005, 02:29 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jul 19 2005, 12:59 AM) NORMAL question( nothing to do with any error,,,) In the condition that u can get into BIOS? can anyone tell me how to reset the cmos (BIOS setting) - without to set jumpers - without to take out and put back the cmos battery my mobo is NF7 plain with D26 mantarays XT 2t bios BTW: i'm just too lazy to open the pc casing! I think u can set it at the main page. "Load Default Settings" or something like that. Can't really remember lol. |
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Jul 19 2005, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Jul 19 2005, 02:29 AM) In the condition that u can get into BIOS? any in windows shortcut?I think u can set it at the main page. "Load Default Settings" or something like that. Can't really remember lol. |
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Jul 19 2005, 01:16 PM
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my mobo face this problem too..but mine is worst..when i flash D27 2T,i can smell BURN ,AHAH
but the mobo still can be switch ON power. DErek,which bios u update??on ur mobo??The most safety way is only update the original bios, :LOl |
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Jul 19 2005, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jul 19 2005, 12:20 AM) guys....Now da bios canot run alr .. monitor onli flashing. what happen?how 2 recover it bac... i try reset da cmos..alsO same help me i think you need to hotflash liao |
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Jul 19 2005, 01:48 PM
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how to Hotflash????
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Jul 20 2005, 02:59 AM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Jul 19 2005, 01:48 PM) how to Hotflash???? need one working same mobo...while running..take out the bios chip..replace with corrupted chip..then flash using flashmenu |
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Jul 21 2005, 03:31 PM
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wow.need to take out bios chip??need soldering?
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Jul 21 2005, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Jul 21 2005, 03:31 PM) wow.need to take out bios chip??need soldering? No. But u need a special clip to take it out. |
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Jul 23 2005, 03:12 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jul 19 2005, 10:05 AM) any in windows shortcut? Same wish... |
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Jul 23 2005, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(jenggo @ Jul 23 2005, 03:12 AM) Same wish... VLP- very lazy ppl |
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Jul 26 2005, 04:11 AM
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i was flashing back to original bios from mantarays bios. the next reboot sent me to seek help. bios corrupted. anyone know where to hotflash or willing to hotflash my bios chip?
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Jul 26 2005, 11:42 AM
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how can that happen?
you power down? or you load last known configuration. |
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Jul 26 2005, 11:51 AM
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bad luck lor...while flashing the bios, i felt that sumthing was wrong cos it's not my first time flashing using flash menu. but then the restart pop up did appear so i thought everything's fine. who knows, after it power off, it nvr power on again.
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Jul 26 2005, 12:48 PM
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emm...try to turn off all the power...
make sure no hav any power in ur psu... try to reset jumper... after all switch on power, n try to switch on ur pc... hopefully ur mobo fine |
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Jul 26 2005, 01:39 PM
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cubchai,do u smell any BURN??
anyway..try reset and see.. |
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Jul 26 2005, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jul 26 2005, 12:48 PM) emm...try to turn off all the power... tried and failed.make sure no hav any power in ur psu... try to reset jumper... after all switch on power, n try to switch on ur pc... hopefully ur mobo fine QUOTE(xcrue @ Jul 26 2005, 01:39 PM) cubchai,do u smell any BURN?? i don't smell any burn. but then i think i reset cmos too many times. i was doing memtest and it kept failing and a reset in cmos is needed. then i decided to flash back to original bios and forget the clocking. then this problem occurred. i'm waiting for my friend's nf7-s to do hot flash. btw , is it the same bios chip?anyway..try reset and see.. |
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Jul 28 2005, 08:25 AM
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why do you put back the original bios
what! mantarays not good for your rig ka? This post has been edited by Mr_47: Jul 28 2005, 08:26 AM |
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Jul 28 2005, 09:28 AM
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i have one nf7v2 for sale. wonder how much would it be? anyone interested PM me.. haha.. offtopic
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Jul 28 2005, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Jul 26 2005, 11:51 AM) bad luck lor...while flashing the bios, i felt that sumthing was wrong cos it's not my first time flashing using flash menu. but then the restart pop up did appear so i thought everything's fine. who knows, after it power off, it nvr power on again. what was wrong?if the bios file is corrupted, then you really need to hotflash already. |
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Jul 28 2005, 10:01 AM
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OT:
Does anyone tried pushing FSB with stock BIOS? My friend's NF7-S can hit 250fsb easily with stock bios lol. Mine only hits 240 with D26 mantaray....1.7 Vdd. |
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Jul 28 2005, 12:30 PM
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stock as in the version 22?
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Jul 28 2005, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jul 28 2005, 08:25 AM) why do you put back the original bios when i use mantarays, memtest of RAM 180Mhz at lose timings oso cannot. i remembered before mantarays, i can do higher than 180.what! mantarays not good for your rig ka? QUOTE(Radeon @ Jul 28 2005, 09:53 AM) what was wrong? this weekend going to kl lor, my fren offer me his pc to hotflash. i asked around many shops in my hometown on hot flash. all shops suggested me to download bios, put in floppy and flash lor. then i told them ok ok, i will try if my pc can boot up. if the bios file is corrupted, then you really need to hotflash already. |
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Jul 28 2005, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Jul 28 2005, 12:43 PM) when i use mantarays, memtest of RAM 180Mhz at lose timings oso cannot. i remembered before mantarays, i can do higher than 180. wat model mobo did u use it??this weekend going to kl lor, my fren offer me his pc to hotflash. i asked around many shops in my hometown on hot flash. all shops suggested me to download bios, put in floppy and flash lor. then i told them ok ok, i will try if my pc can boot up. |
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Jul 28 2005, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jul 28 2005, 02:08 PM) wat model mobo did u use it?? NF7, the first batch i think. |
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Jul 28 2005, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Jul 28 2005, 12:43 PM) when i use mantarays, memtest of RAM 180Mhz at lose timings oso cannot. i remembered before mantarays, i can do higher than 180. floppy and flash is hard thing to do ler!this weekend going to kl lor, my fren offer me his pc to hotflash. i asked around many shops in my hometown on hot flash. all shops suggested me to download bios, put in floppy and flash lor. then i told them ok ok, i will try if my pc can boot up. better hotflash. pitty you. BTW:d26 mantarays xt 2t can give me ram 2.8v timming 2-2-2-11,,, + fsb max is 230 ,,,, before this i use stock bios can't do it.,,, and all this with rm45 450W psu. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Jul 28 2005, 02:22 PM |
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Jul 28 2005, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jul 28 2005, 02:17 PM) floppy and flash is hard thing to do ler! My RAM DDR333 only. I'm not aiming for superb high FSB, 200-220, i happy liao. i bringing only the bios chip to hotflash. damn panic, if after the hotflash, bring back hometown still cant boot up. i was considering bringing the mobo along.better hotflash. pitty you. BTW:d26 mantarays xt 2t can give me ram 2.8v timming 2-2-2-11,,, before this i use stock bios can't do it. + fsb max is 230 ,,,, and all this with rm45 450W psu. |
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Jul 28 2005, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Jul 28 2005, 02:21 PM) My RAM DDR333 only. I'm not aiming for superb high FSB, 200-220, i happy liao. i bringing only the bios chip to hotflash. damn panic, if after the hotflash, bring back hometown still cant boot up. i was considering bringing the mobo along. we all here wanna wish u the best of luck. it's a quite risky job to do. |
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Jul 28 2005, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jul 28 2005, 02:26 PM) we all here wanna wish u the best of luck. thanks for the wish. i know it's risky. the most panic part is , i scared i drag down my friend's mobo. can someone list out the risks of hot flashing? it's a quite risky job to do. |
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for ur reference:
AXP DTR Barton 2600 Abit NF7 (Vdimm modded) Tictac D26 Mantaray XT CPC ON (1T) Kingston HyperX BH5 Prime Stable:2773Mhz 
Max bootable at window:2.9Ghz 
Max Fsb Overclocked: 267Mhz 
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QUOTE(tone @ Jul 28 2005, 02:51 PM) for ur reference: aiya..bh5, is it a PC3200? for the mantarays, did you disable APIC?AXP DTR Barton 2600 Abit NF7 (Vdimm modded) Tictac D26 Mantaray XT CPC ON (1T) Kingston HyperX BH5 Prime Stable:2773Mhz
Max bootable at window:2.9Ghz
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Jul 28 2005, 07:01 PM
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i've experience that disable APIC will give you lower performance.
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Jul 28 2005, 07:31 PM
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Is there anyway to maximize the potential of a mobo? Mine seems to max out at 225Mhz. Anything over, Prime95 fails at exactly 7 minutes. Always exactly 7 Minutes.
Check my sig for my specs. Oh, and I'm using D26 Mantarays XT 2T. |
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Jul 28 2005, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jul 28 2005, 07:01 PM) i've experience that disable APIC will give you lower performance. did you disable after windows install? or did you reinstall after you disable? i've read about this APIC in abit forum. majority says better MHz after disabling. |
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Jul 28 2005, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(Dead__Man @ Jul 28 2005, 07:31 PM) Is there anyway to maximize the potential of a mobo? Mine seems to max out at 225Mhz. Anything over, Prime95 fails at exactly 7 minutes. Always exactly 7 Minutes. "vCore Fluctuation Fix"Check my sig for my specs. Oh, and I'm using D26 Mantarays XT 2T. how did you do that ? BTW: try to feed your cpu with more voltage. |
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Jul 28 2005, 11:19 PM
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@ Dead__Man
you did the vcore fluctuation pencil trick, right? i just wonder that have you faced the problem that cant get over 1.85v after doing the trick? because once I set the vcore over 1.85v, the mobo cant boot and the beep sound will be heard. @ cubchai yes, disable APIC will give more fsb. But for my case, the extra 3mhz fsb cant cover back the lower bandwidth. |
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Jul 29 2005, 04:22 AM
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@Mr_47
I have an unlocked CPU, so I just change the multi when aiming for FSB. @gsan I have never tried anything over 1.7v. My Athlon, though good rating, is a power hog. Load at 52c on 1.675 with a Thermalright SI-97, and that's nighttime. Sometimes during the day it can go up to 55c. |
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Jul 29 2005, 04:32 AM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Jul 28 2005, 04:02 PM) aiya..bh5, is it a PC3200? for the mantarays, did you disable APIC? most important is the mobo & tictac's bios can go 267Mhz @ 2-2-2-11 CPC ON (1T)APIC not too sure got off or not ..Bandwith ard 4100? |
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Jul 29 2005, 08:34 AM
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well the apic is a long debated issue
btw mr47 why your d43 can do 2-2-2 timings? |
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Jul 29 2005, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jul 28 2005, 11:19 PM) @ Dead__Man that's right...you did the vcore fluctuation pencil trick, right? i just wonder that have you faced the problem that cant get over 1.85v after doing the trick? because once I set the vcore over 1.85v, the mobo cant boot and the beep sound will be heard. @ cubchai yes, disable APIC will give more fsb. But for my case, the extra 3mhz fsb cant cover back the lower bandwidth. QUOTE(tone @ Jul 29 2005, 04:32 AM) most important is the mobo & tictac's bios can go 267Mhz @ 2-2-2-11 CPC ON (1T) is it tictac's bios have some function that the original bios don't have, that made my bios corrupted when i flash back to original bios from mantarays?APIC not too sure got off or not ..Bandwith ard 4100? |
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QUOTE(tone @ Jul 29 2005, 04:32 AM) most important is the mobo & tictac's bios can go 267Mhz @ 2-2-2-11 CPC ON (1T) you're the sifu of NF7 , 267Mhz @ 2-2-2-11-1T APIC not too sure got off or not ..Bandwith ard 4100? |
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Jul 29 2005, 09:47 PM
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what type of ram n vdimm n bios TUNe using??wow
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Jul 29 2005, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Jul 29 2005, 11:20 AM) that's right... when you flash back to abit biosis it tictac's bios have some function that the original bios don't have, that made my bios corrupted when i flash back to original bios from mantarays? did u select the load saved settings? if u do sure gone |
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Jul 30 2005, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jul 29 2005, 10:53 PM) when you flash back to abit bios i've forgotten. usually after flashing i have to reconfigure the bios again.did u select the load saved settings? if u do sure gone i jsut checked out the price if i order a bios chip from abit-usa thru a fren. ranging from $27-$110, time from 4-6weeks for $27 and $110 for about a week. some sites charge $20+, delivery time 10-14 days. |
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Jul 31 2005, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jul 29 2005, 08:34 AM) well the apic is a long debated issue when i change from stock bios to mantaray xt 2t it just does!btw mr47 why your d43 can do 2-2-2 timings? before that cannot,,,,,, even if i feed it with 2.9V and low fsb now is okay,,,,, can do 2-2-2-11 2.8v at max stable fsb 230 x 11 .. but i just use 210 coz the temp for 230 is too high,,, reach 57+ now very happy This post has been edited by Mr_47: Jul 31 2005, 12:56 AM |
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Aug 1 2005, 11:14 PM
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someone should list down how many ppl here are using moded bios and what type of it!
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Aug 1 2005, 11:27 PM
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d27_619R2 by trats
max. stable fsb 252 @ 2-2-2-11, 1T |
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Aug 2 2005, 01:12 PM
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1T??how come i never try be4.
32bit system can run 1T ?" |
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Aug 2 2005, 02:18 PM
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can what, im running TCCC @ 2-3-2-11 @ 1T @ 210
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QUOTE(gsan @ Aug 1 2005, 11:27 PM) d27_619R2 by trats where u d/l this...im uisng merlin D27....dual channel with BT n CT 512MBmax. stable fsb 252 @ 2-2-2-11, 1T D43 double sided...cant pass 210FSB timing 2.5-3-3-11 |
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Aug 2 2005, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(Monkey King @ Aug 2 2005, 02:31 PM) where u d/l this...im uisng merlin D27....dual channel with BT n CT 512MB http://members.lycos.co.uk/hallampg/BIOS/BETA%20BIOS/Trats/ D43 double sided...cant pass 210FSB timing 2.5-3-3-11 |
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Edited ......
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Aug 4 2005, 11:13 AM
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i've change back my mantarays xt 2t to 3dfire 2t
coz more stable. cooler cpu temp. not sucking too much v. get my bf2 no ctd. 3dmark 03/05 more point,,, + 50 This post has been edited by Mr_47: Aug 4 2005, 11:16 AM |
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Aug 4 2005, 08:33 PM
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i've hotflashed my bios. but then can't do it with original bios. it only accepts mantarays...aih
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Aug 4 2005, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Aug 4 2005, 08:33 PM) i've hotflashed my bios. but then can't do it with original bios. it only accepts mantarays...aih y sad...mantarays is the best oc bios...even vcore can go til 2.05v still can boot |
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Aug 4 2005, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Aug 4 2005, 10:43 PM) y sad...mantarays is the best oc bios... but then one thing i cant understand is, i cant flash back to original bios. that's y i flash to mantarays.even vcore can go til 2.05v still can boot |
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Aug 4 2005, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Aug 4 2005, 10:55 PM) but then one thing i cant understand is, i cant flash back to original bios. that's y i flash to mantarays. 1t or 2t?y tis the ood bios for L12 mod... u can get high fsb then other bios... (my mobo lah) max i get is 265++ 270 can boot n login winxp but 4-5 min mouse start hang...then keyboard...but the pc still on...winamp still playing mp3...tat the funny thing i oso dunno wat happen... anyone face tis problem? mind to share? |
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Aug 4 2005, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Aug 4 2005, 11:03 PM) 1t or 2t? one of the reason i like this bios is the L12 mod. someone suggested me to use 1T. not sure wat's the difference.y tis the ood bios for L12 mod... u can get high fsb then other bios... (my mobo lah) max i get is 265++ 270 can boot n login winxp but 4-5 min mouse start hang...then keyboard...but the pc still on...winamp still playing mp3...tat the funny thing i oso dunno wat happen... anyone face tis problem? mind to share? |
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Aug 4 2005, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(cubchai @ Aug 4 2005, 11:07 PM) one of the reason i like this bios is the L12 mod. someone suggested me to use 1T. not sure wat's the difference. can i know wat ram did u use??here my 265 cpuz |
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Aug 4 2005, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Aug 4 2005, 10:43 PM) y sad...mantarays is the best oc bios... that's nothing with the bios, psu is the main reason. before i'm using enlight 350w, once i set vcore to 2.0v, the pc must automatic shutdown. but since change to acbel 450w, i can get more than that.even vcore can go til 2.05v still can boot QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Aug 4 2005, 11:03 PM) max i get is 265++ 270 can boot n login winxp but 4-5 min mouse start hang...then keyboard...but the pc still on...winamp still playing mp3...tat the funny thing yes, i faced it before. this problem occure due to the either SB or NB overheating. before adding the heatsink on SB, once the fsb over 248, my mouse n keyboard will hang but the mp3 still playing. but since adding heatsink on SB, this problem can overcome. QUOTE(cubchai @ Aug 4 2005, 11:07 PM) one of the reason i like this bios is the L12 mod. someone suggested me to use 1T. not sure wat's the difference. 1T give more bandwidth score whereas 2T give more fsb since it's come with some loosing setting. |
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Aug 5 2005, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Aug 4 2005, 11:08 PM) 2xKHX256 2700 |
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Aug 5 2005, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE one of the reason i like this bios is the L12 mod. someone suggested me to use 1T. not sure wat's the difference. QUOTE 1T give more bandwidth score whereas 2T give more fsb since it's come with some loosing setting. Command Rate CMD (1/ 2) (Command Rate, MA 1T/2T Select)Number of clock cycles needed to address the memory module and the memory chip with the desired data zone. If your memory banks (slots) are full to capacity, you will have to raise this rate to two, resulting in a considerable drop in performance. http://www.obm.co.nz/obmnew/guides/ddrram.htm DRAM command rate specifies the time to wait after a chip select before activate and read can be started. It is usually suggested that you apply the lowest command rate that your RAM and motherboard can run stable with. The lesser the value, the quicker the memory controller be able to send commands out. On the other hand, at higher frequencies it might be crucial to raise the command rate latency in order to get your system at super stable state. |
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Aug 7 2005, 07:12 AM
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btw..just wanna ask...i thought L12 mod is for Tbred models only where the default FSB is @ 133? barton can use this mod also? FYI im using a unlocked desktop barton....
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Aug 9 2005, 08:15 AM
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- ABIT-NF7D27-3DFire-1T
- ABIT-NF7D27-3DFire-2T Which is better for my system ? AXP-M 2400 2*512mb KVR No hotwire mod ( L12 ) Main thing is that i only use FSB @ 200 Not trying to max things out Enough juice for me at the moment This post has been edited by ivandj: Aug 9 2005, 08:21 AM |
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Aug 9 2005, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(ivandj @ Aug 9 2005, 08:15 AM) - ABIT-NF7D27-3DFire-1T if your ram is doubleSided,,, then go for 2T- ABIT-NF7D27-3DFire-2T Which is better for my system ? AXP-M 2400 2*512mb KVR No hotwire mod ( L12 ) Main thing is that i only use FSB @ 200 Not trying to max things out Enough juice for me at the moment |
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Aug 9 2005, 01:38 PM
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How to flash the bios ?
just use Abit's flashmenu ? |
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Aug 9 2005, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(ivandj @ Aug 9 2005, 01:38 PM) How to flash the bios ? just try to use it ,,, you're find it yourself,,, no worry easy only. just use Abit's flashmenu ? |
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Aug 10 2005, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(ivandj @ Aug 9 2005, 07:15 AM) - ABIT-NF7D27-3DFire-1T Well, i would sugested that you using D26 MantarayXT 2T or D27 Taipan 2T...- ABIT-NF7D27-3DFire-2T Which is better for my system ? AXP-M 2400 2*512mb KVR and EDc18R1 and B4r1 from Trats... with 2T of course... And flashed using FlashMenu 2.91... I heard the new one have problem with Bandwith Memory... |
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Aug 11 2005, 12:44 AM
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D26 MantarayXT 2T or D27 Taipan 2T
Where can i get those? Currently im running on Abit latest bios. So can i still change my bios to those 2? |
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Aug 11 2005, 04:15 AM
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QUOTE(F.E.A.R @ Aug 11 2005, 01:01 AM) carefull.. taipan somesay may burn your mobo! wow! bcoz of bios can burn mobo also. |
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Want to ask sifu here, which bios is good for CH-5 ram for NF7v2 board???
Also for CH-5 how high the FSB that it can reach? I'm using 2-3-2-11 timing, is there any other timing better than this? This post has been edited by HiT-AbLe: Aug 12 2005, 12:23 AM |
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Aug 12 2005, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Aug 12 2005, 12:09 AM) Want to ask sifu here, which bios is good for CH-5 ram for NF7v2 board??? Do the 3.3v vdimm mod on ur nf7 and away you go with your overclocking. If I'm not mistaken, try going for Trats bios. It worked well for me Also for CH-5 how high the FSB that it can reach? I'm using 2-3-2-11 timing, is there any other timing better than this? Correct me if I'm wrong.  This post has been edited by colinwong89: Aug 12 2005, 12:37 PM |
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Aug 12 2005, 08:11 PM
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yeah... trats bios rock
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Aug 13 2005, 03:02 PM
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Trats bios offer 3.3v vdimm? IF not anyone hav guide for vdimm mod ? I on D26 mantaray 1T . Doin 220 15-3-3-2.5 at 2.9v. Not enuff juice from psu . :'(
BTW where can i get link for trats bios? This post has been edited by Cyclone87: Aug 13 2005, 04:08 PM |
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Aug 14 2005, 10:03 AM
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here's the vdimm mod (dirty punk)
 this mod depend on your psu 3.3v rail as well. |
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Aug 14 2005, 12:39 PM
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one question here,
actually how do i know the L12 wire mod is success? izzit i clear the bios, and mobile detected as 166fsb ? coz normally is 100fsb? i'm using trats d27 mod. bios now, i dunno this bios got soft L12 mod or not, but when i load optimal in bios, it set to 166fsb. This post has been edited by gsan: Aug 14 2005, 12:42 PM |
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Aug 14 2005, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Aug 14 2005, 01:39 PM) one question here, load optimal in bios got 166fsb .... is 50% success actually how do i know the L12 wire mod is success? izzit i clear the bios, and mobile detected as 166fsb ? coz normally is 100fsb? i'm using trats d27 mod. bios now, i dunno this bios got soft L12 mod or not, but when i load optimal in bios, it set to 166fsb. da most easy to detect .... if u can pass 240+ without doin wire mod that means soft L12 mod is inside dat bios - cons nothing beats wire mod L12 those soft L12 won't go as high FSBs as the hard 1 |
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Aug 14 2005, 02:28 PM
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If detect as 166 when clear to optimal, does that mean the L12 success force the proc to Fsb166 or Fsb200? IF fsb 200 , y it didnt show fsb 200 when we clear it to optimal value?
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Aug 14 2005, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(StarNet @ Aug 14 2005, 01:40 PM) load optimal in bios got 166fsb .... is 50% success nono... i mean... da most easy to detect .... if u can pass 240+ without doin wire mod that means soft L12 mod is inside dat bios - cons nothing beats wire mod L12 those soft L12 won't go as high FSBs as the hard 1 i already did the L12 wire mod, but i dunno it success or not.... i just load the optimal in bios, and i got 166fsb, so does it mean I success? maybe it's due to the soft L12 mod.... coz i dunno for the soft mod, izzit also same when load the optimal in bios also got 166fsb. |
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Aug 14 2005, 08:04 PM
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yeah that should be it gsan.... a mobile will be detected at 133 if u dont do the wire mod....
I've done it for mine and now its detected as a 166 default. can go much higher fsbs too. |
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Aug 14 2005, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Aug 14 2005, 06:59 PM) nono... i mean... i already did the L12 wire mod, but i dunno it success or not.... i just load the optimal in bios, and i got 166fsb, so does it mean I success? maybe it's due to the soft L12 mod.... coz i dunno for the soft mod, izzit also same when load the optimal in bios also got 166fsb. another way to knw is to flash to non-soft mod bios lor if still got 166FSB on load optimal means the hard mod is on |
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Aug 22 2005, 08:04 PM
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anyone can what's the bios for 2x512MB utt bh5 on NF7-S?
i cant overclock my new gskill GH at all @ any vdimm |
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Aug 22 2005, 09:25 PM
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Hai .... i also using NF7-S v2 ...
I hear have one problem, dont know u guy have this problem or not.. I just install Big water SE, and going to overclock my CPU. My temp inside bios and mbm show me 51'c when using big water SE, but my reading temp thing show me 41'c. When i using the original heatsink, the temp inside and bios, mbm and reading temp thing show the same temp 51'c. i already ajust many time for my temp sensor, but the temp still less 10'c, why going like that? which one temp is true? my sensor temp in good condition ( already tested ) Some of my friend said, abit motherboard temp need to -10'c , that just the true temp? izit this true? i dont know which one temp is true, i scare later my CPU overheat.... Later said bye bye for my CPU lor.... Pls help me to solve my problem... izit the bios problem? i already flash to D27. Thx anyway.... |
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Aug 23 2005, 05:37 PM
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guys whats the best bios for double sided KVR D43 rams in dual channel on an NF7-S rev2??
i'm using d26 manta rays xt can go up to FSB 230Mhz stable only,( DDR 460)... |
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Aug 23 2005, 06:07 PM
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That could also be your board. I also have D26 Mantarays XT 2T and all I can go is up to 225Mhz (with 2x512Mb DT-D43). |
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Aug 24 2005, 08:46 PM
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what hapen if system as my sig use 1T ?
any bad thing? |
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Aug 24 2005, 10:36 PM
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^
Higher performance, but not so high FSB. |
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Aug 25 2005, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(Dead__Man @ Aug 24 2005, 10:36 PM) ^ even doublesided ram love 2T,,,, but also can use 1T if i want,,,?Higher performance, but not so high FSB. coz the limitation of my barton 2500+ is 220*11 only at 1.8V and 3-3-3-11 2.8V so i want try to use 1T coz i can't go for higher FSB anymore,,,,, heat kill my oc dieheart soul. damn...... This post has been edited by Mr_47: Aug 25 2005, 12:18 AM |
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Aug 25 2005, 12:24 AM
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my old bh5 cant get higher fsb with 2T...
252 @ 2-2-2-11, 1T is the highest and stable i could get but with 2T, 253 @ 2-2-2-11 will give errors in memtest#86. |
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Aug 26 2005, 01:40 AM
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3dfire 1t and mantarays xt 1t hang at 3dmark mother nature!
so going back to mantarays xt 2t |
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Aug 26 2005, 08:36 AM
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Want to ask u guyz. My mobo already with BIOS 2.7 (latest) but if i want to flash the modified (ver 10) cannot do it. It said the bios locked already. Can u help me?
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Aug 26 2005, 01:13 PM
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guy73,
try tictac d26 xt or trats d27, those can get high fsb easily. |
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Aug 26 2005, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Aug 26 2005, 01:13 PM) guy73, get it heretry tictac d26 xt or trats d27, those can get high fsb easily. http://www.hwtweakers.net/postt4741.html but which one ,,, too many d27 trats ? |
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Aug 27 2005, 12:07 AM
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D27 619R2 (SATA 4250)
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Aug 27 2005, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Aug 27 2005, 12:07 AM) D27 619R2 (SATA 4250) cpc off = 2t rite? |
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Aug 27 2005, 06:11 PM
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when we overclock the CPU, if the CPU no stable, izit we just need pump the CPU core? other Volt we no need to add? like chipset volt, .......
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Aug 27 2005, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(kaneboy85 @ Aug 27 2005, 06:11 PM) when we overclock the CPU, if the CPU no stable, izit we just need pump the CPU core? other Volt we no need to add? like chipset volt, ....... well i usually play with my Vcore and Vdimm only.....i dont how how much increasing the chipset voltage will help.... can anyone clarify that? |
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Aug 27 2005, 10:50 PM
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i did the vdd pencil trick (2.0v, measure with multimeter) but it seem does not give any overclocking improvement.
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Aug 27 2005, 11:01 PM
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what different with VCore and VDimm ??? i just know to add VCore for CPU, where can i add VDimm ??
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Aug 27 2005, 11:08 PM
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Vdimm is for Voltage for RAM... can change @ Abit CPU softmenu in BIOS
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Aug 28 2005, 07:05 PM
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ooo ...
Vcore = voltage CPU VDimm = voltage RAM Izit right ??? |
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Aug 28 2005, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(kaneboy85 @ Aug 28 2005, 07:05 PM) ooo ... ya Vcore = voltage CPU VDimm = voltage RAM Izit right ??? u r right |
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Aug 29 2005, 07:31 PM
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OffTopic Here,
AnyOne Got Idea For The DFI Ultra Infinity Mobo? Using HellFire Or TicTac Modiffied BIOs? I Am Using Hynix Ram.. Btw, AnyNice Guide For DFI OC |
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Aug 29 2005, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(teckhooi @ Aug 29 2005, 07:31 PM) OffTopic Here, hah here comes DFI in NF7/NF7-S Rev2.0 Modded Bios, : Discussions and Results AnyOne Got Idea For The DFI Ultra Infinity Mobo? Using HellFire Or TicTac Modiffied BIOs? I Am Using Hynix Ram.. Btw, AnyNice Guide For DFI OC forum!BTW: your dfi use nforce 2 chipset ka? |
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Aug 29 2005, 09:10 PM
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Yes, My Mobo Powered By Nvidia Nforce 2 Ultra 400
Again, Offtopic Here.... Any Useful Link For DFI Discussion? |
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Aug 29 2005, 09:12 PM
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i think dfi site got a forum. there's dfi crew in there if i'm not mistaken.
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Aug 29 2005, 09:56 PM
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D27 619R2 (SATA 4250) cpc off = 2t rite?
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Aug 29 2005, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(kaneboy85 @ Aug 29 2005, 09:56 PM) D27 619R2 (SATA 4250) cpc off = 2t rite? yu p |
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Aug 30 2005, 12:05 AM
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my ram is twimos SP 256x2 , which one better for me? 1T or 2T ??
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Aug 30 2005, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(kaneboy85 @ Aug 30 2005, 12:05 AM) my ram is twimos SP 256x2 , which one better for me? 1T or 2T ?? doublesided chip -- 2tsinglesided chip -- 1t so check your ram,,, single or doublesided. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Aug 30 2005, 12:20 AM |
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Aug 31 2005, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(kaneboy85 @ Aug 30 2005, 12:05 AM) my ram is twimos SP 256x2 , which one better for me? 1T or 2T ?? go for 1T |
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Aug 31 2005, 01:39 PM
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what hapens if used 1T with double side ram?
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Sep 1 2005, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Aug 31 2005, 01:39 PM) what hapens if used 1T with double side ram? in my system. it's not stable.can't run 3dmark 03/05 hang at mother nature. i've tried with both d273dfire-1T and mantarays xt 1T,, and both with bad result. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 1 2005, 10:16 AM |
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Sep 1 2005, 03:46 PM
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Want to ask u guys a question abt temp. I have AXP 1800+ and o/c it 2300mhz(1.875v), and my idle temp is 59C. This's becuz I let the CPU fans runs at 5v while I'm doing normal stuffs like surfing.
My question is that is 59C temp too high? |
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Sep 1 2005, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 1 2005, 10:15 AM) in my system. it's not stable. AFAIK, double sided won't run properly at 1T in nF2 mobos. Maybe it will run at lower frequency(166?can't run 3dmark 03/05 hang at mother nature. i've tried with both d273dfire-1T and mantarays xt 1T,, and both with bad result. ) but 2T is the only way so far.QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Sep 1 2005, 03:46 PM) Want to ask u guys a question abt temp. I have AXP 1800+ and o/c it 2300mhz(1.875v), and my idle temp is 59C. This's becuz I let the CPU fans runs at 5v while I'm doing normal stuffs like surfing. Yes, it's too high. My question is that is 59C temp too high? |
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Sep 1 2005, 04:25 PM
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Really? Last time I heard AXP and barton can tahan quite high temp.
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Sep 1 2005, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Sep 1 2005, 03:46 PM) Want to ask u guys a question abt temp. I have AXP 1800+ and o/c it 2300mhz(1.875v), and my idle temp is 59C. This's becuz I let the CPU fans runs at 5v while I'm doing normal stuffs like surfing. Idle at 59 and your fan is not fullspeed? My question is that is 59C temp too high? obviously too hot |
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Sep 2 2005, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Sep 1 2005, 04:25 PM) Really? Last time I heard AXP and barton can tahan quite high temp. bro,,, the max temp for athlon xp is around 80-90 Cbut in your case sufing with 59 C,,, thats too high,,,, BTW:59 C with full load of playing game that's normal. and surfing must be around 40-50 C,,, and we are talking about cpu temp. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 2 2005, 08:40 AM |
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Sep 2 2005, 04:29 PM
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what is the max Vcore for AXP clock to 200x11 ? i using 1.8V, it come with blue screen then restart, then i try pump to 1.825V, it still come with blue screen when run prime95 then restart? why like this? while i using 194X11 Vcore = 1.8 . it stable for me.. why when i pump the clock to 200X11 then it come out blue screen when i run prime95? izit mean my Max clock my CPU? when i run prime95, then temp is 60'c ...
What happen? |
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Sep 2 2005, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(kaneboy85 @ Sep 2 2005, 04:29 PM) what is the max Vcore for AXP clock to 200x11 ? i using 1.8V, it come with blue screen then restart, then i try pump to 1.825V, it still come with blue screen when run prime95 then restart? why like this? while i using 194X11 Vcore = 1.8 . it stable for me.. why when i pump the clock to 200X11 then it come out blue screen when i run prime95? izit mean my Max clock my CPU? when i run prime95, then temp is 60'c ... What mobo? It could be RAM or mobo........What happen? |
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Sep 2 2005, 06:14 PM
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i using NF7-S v2 ..
Bios . D27 619R2 (SATA 4250) Trats I already increase my Vdimm, 2.7 but still come blue screen when test prime95 then restart. Anyone know how to solve it? |
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Sep 2 2005, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(kaneboy85 @ Sep 2 2005, 06:14 PM) i using NF7-S v2 .. what about your psu? what type? power?Bios . D27 619R2 (SATA 4250) Trats I already increase my Vdimm, 2.7 but still come blue screen when test prime95 then restart. Anyone know how to solve it? BTW:d26 mantarays xt 2t/1T seems to be best for NF7 series. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 2 2005, 10:08 PM |
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Sep 2 2005, 11:26 PM
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i using thermaltake butterfly purepower 480W .
i already try it now, when i using 1.775v with 195x11, test with SP2004 , is ok. when i trying pump more go to 196 or 197 or 198 X 11 ( all tested ) with 1.775V , when running prime95 or sp2004, just around 5 to 10min it will come out blue screen and restart. then i think is Vcore not enough, then try with 1.8V it still the same with blue screen and restart, then try with 1.825v it still the same, then i try pump the Vdimm to 2.7v , it still the same with blue screen and restart? why like that? izit that the max for my CPU? ( my temp when run SP2004 and prime95 is 57'c 195x11 ) |
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Sep 3 2005, 02:29 AM
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My PC can't pass Prime Large FFT and Blend tests, and no matter how much I reduce my FSB, I still get problems. Increasing RAM timing doesnt help either. Maybe it's the motherboard.
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Sep 3 2005, 09:07 AM
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did ur guy NF7-S v2 motherboard Max Vdim is 2.9V ?? mine one is 2.9V is the max.
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Sep 3 2005, 09:36 AM
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Yup. it 2.9v in the bios, but it will have 0.1v Overvolt on the vdimm. So it 3v actually.
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Sep 3 2005, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Sep 3 2005, 09:36 AM) Yup. it 2.9v in the bios, but it will have 0.1v Overvolt on the vdimm. So it 3v actually. wrong,,, its 0.2v,,,,, so if it set to 2.9=3.1,,,2.8=3.0,,,2.7=2.9BTW: kaneboy85 try change your bios to mantarays xt. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 3 2005, 11:17 AM |
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Sep 3 2005, 11:32 AM
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Wrong, officially 0.1V overvolt
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Sep 3 2005, 11:44 AM
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ok.. will try now...
something to ask: Row active delay = more lower better or highest better? RAS-to-Cas delay = more lower better or highest better? Row-precharge Delay = more lower better or highest better? CAS Latency Time = more lower better or highest better? |
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Sep 3 2005, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(kaneboy85 @ Sep 3 2005, 11:44 AM) ok.. will try now... all also lower bettersomething to ask: Row active delay = more lower better or highest better? RAS-to-Cas delay = more lower better or highest better? Row-precharge Delay = more lower better or highest better? CAS Latency Time = more lower better or highest better? but the row active delay u would like to use 11 coz it gives be best ram bandwidth This post has been edited by Radeon: Sep 3 2005, 01:11 PM |
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Sep 3 2005, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 2 2005, 08:37 AM) bro,,, the max temp for athlon xp is around 80-90 C The max temp is 80-90, and ur temp is 59c, infact ur 59c is not on die temp. I bet on die temp it already almost 80c. There is a way to calculate on die temp if using SocketA with sandra. Anyone pls post ur sandra detail bout ur CPU temp reading here? So i can explain the way to get on die temp. I already migrate from socketA so i cant take the sceenshot.but in your case sufing with 59 C,,, thats too high,,,, BTW:59 C with full load of playing game that's normal. and surfing must be around 40-50 C,,, and we are talking about cpu temp. |
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Sep 3 2005, 05:26 PM
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pls give me opinion...
I just tested my RAM and CPU overclock. what i notice is my MAX CPU clock just can go to 195x11 1.775V, and My RAM just can go to 218MHZ DDR436 only. which one i need to choose more better? highest CPU clock speed with 195X11 (2145MHZ) 1.775V , RAM just only 198MHZ ( if not wrong ) coz my CPU was lock, cannot change the multiple so how i change my RAM ratio, it still will over 218MHZ. if over it will cannot boot into bios then need reset bios. second one is, i choose my RAM 218MHZ DDR436, then my CPU clock speed just can 181x11 (2004.6MHZ), cannot more then 181, if more cannot boot into bios also need reset. I dont know why my CPU cannot go more the 195, if more when running SP2004 and prime95, will come out blue screen and restart. i try to pump more vcore, it still the same. So which one i choose is more better? High CPU clock speed with Low RAM speed, or Low CPU clock speed with high RAM speed????? Pls give me opinion.. THX |
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Sep 3 2005, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(kaneboy85 @ Sep 3 2005, 05:26 PM) pls give me opinion... most of the case higher FSB will win...I just tested my RAM and CPU overclock. what i notice is my MAX CPU clock just can go to 195x11 1.775V, and My RAM just can go to 218MHZ DDR436 only. which one i need to choose more better? highest CPU clock speed with 195X11 (2145MHZ) 1.775V , RAM just only 198MHZ ( if not wrong ) coz my CPU was lock, cannot change the multiple so how i change my RAM ratio, it still will over 218MHZ. if over it will cannot boot into bios then need reset bios. second one is, i choose my RAM 218MHZ DDR436, then my CPU clock speed just can 181x11 (2004.6MHZ), cannot more then 181, if more cannot boot into bios also need reset. I dont know why my CPU cannot go more the 195, if more when running SP2004 and prime95, will come out blue screen and restart. i try to pump more vcore, it still the same. So which one i choose is more better? High CPU clock speed with Low RAM speed, or Low CPU clock speed with high RAM speed????? Pls give me opinion.. THX try to bench with 3dmark03/05 with both of the setting. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 3 2005, 10:00 PM |
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Sep 3 2005, 10:32 PM
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i try it with 218MHZ DDR436, i test how many time with many time latency ajusted, and pump the VDimm, when Memtest86 test until 40% too much erro come out, how come like that one ah???
Cannot go highest CPU clock, cannot go Highest RAM Clock.... Then what to do now??? izit Memtest86 not good for testing? |
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Sep 3 2005, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(kaneboy85 @ Sep 3 2005, 10:32 PM) i try it with 218MHZ DDR436, i test how many time with many time latency ajusted, and pump the VDimm, when Memtest86 test until 40% too much erro come out, how come like that one ah??? relax la bro. u're messing up your and my mind.Cannot go highest CPU clock, cannot go Highest RAM Clock.... Then what to do now??? izit Memtest86 not good for testing? -okay first get the best stable setting,,,, then bench -next if the setting is stable try the next setting REMEMBER ONE THING AT THE TIME. i suggest u try with fsb and vcore first. play with it until u get the most stable setting. then go with ram setting. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 3 2005, 10:40 PM |
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Sep 3 2005, 10:48 PM
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my fsb cannot go over 196, if over when test sp2004 and prime95, it will prompt out blue screen and restart... WHy like that?? so izit the max is 195?
if 195, my my ram cannot go over 200MHZ, if 1:1 just 196 something like that, if try other ratio, it too far different make it cannot boot up... My multiplier cannot change so i cannot ajust it... what to do now?? |
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Sep 4 2005, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(kaneboy85 @ Sep 3 2005, 10:48 PM) my fsb cannot go over 196, if over when test sp2004 and prime95, it will prompt out blue screen and restart... WHy like that?? so izit the max is 195? stay with the setting ,,, there is nothing more that u can do about it.if 195, my my ram cannot go over 200MHZ, if 1:1 just 196 something like that, if try other ratio, it too far different make it cannot boot up... My multiplier cannot change so i cannot ajust it... what to do now?? that's the limit. |
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Sep 4 2005, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(kaneboy85 @ Sep 3 2005, 10:48 PM) my fsb cannot go over 196, if over when test sp2004 and prime95, it will prompt out blue screen and restart... WHy like that?? so izit the max is 195? Even if ur ram running at DDR500 or DDR600, ur FSB only 195, ur ram will force to stay at DDR390. The FSB is the bottle, and the ram is the juice or water. The bottle have only max capasity of 195mL, den only 195x2mL can stay in the bottle. The rest will overflow. Understand the concept?if 195, my my ram cannot go over 200MHZ, if 1:1 just 196 something like that, if try other ratio, it too far different make it cannot boot up... My multiplier cannot change so i cannot ajust it... what to do now?? |
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Sep 6 2005, 05:11 PM
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A question here for NF7... anybody know how to get boot device selector? I mean any key for activate that can select which device to boot first instead getting to the bios and set the first boot device. This is useful for updating bios to boot from floppy so no need to go to bios and set the boot first device and then get to bios again to set another... know what i mean? One resource said that u press Ctrl+Alt+F1 but its not working...
Thanks. |
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Sep 6 2005, 06:56 PM
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I recommend u to update BIOS from windows....no need to change boot and use floppy.
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Sep 6 2005, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(cherokee @ Sep 6 2005, 05:11 PM) A question here for NF7... anybody know how to get boot device selector? I mean any key for activate that can select which device to boot first instead getting to the bios and set the first boot device. This is useful for updating bios to boot from floppy so no need to go to bios and set the boot first device and then get to bios again to set another... know what i mean? One resource said that u press Ctrl+Alt+F1 but its not working... bro use abit flash le. it can flash in window,,, and then reboot all auto .Thanks. http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/bios.p...ories=1&model=8 This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 6 2005, 09:03 PM |
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Sep 7 2005, 08:26 AM
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Okay, tried D27 by Trats... nothing interesting...
 still can't go 225 FSB. Flashed back to ori 27 bios..This post has been edited by cherokee: Sep 7 2005, 08:27 AM |
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Sep 7 2005, 08:47 AM
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Which mod bios is the stable?
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Sep 7 2005, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(cherokee @ Sep 6 2005, 05:11 PM) A question here for NF7... anybody know how to get boot device selector? I mean any key for activate that can select which device to boot first instead getting to the bios and set the first boot device. This is useful for updating bios to boot from floppy so no need to go to bios and set the boot first device and then get to bios again to set another... know what i mean? One resource said that u press Ctrl+Alt+F1 but its not working... Nope, this is about the only thing I dislike about the NF7 - you have to go into BIOS to change the first boot device if you wanna boot off floppy or CDROM. Sucks big time.Thanks. |
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Sep 7 2005, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(T0|\|`/ @ Sep 7 2005, 11:34 AM) Nope, this is about the only thing I dislike about the NF7 - you have to go into BIOS to change the first boot device if you wanna boot off floppy or CDROM. Sucks big time. Thanks for the answer... |
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Sep 7 2005, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(Motorbaby @ Sep 7 2005, 08:47 AM) Which mod bios is the stable? totally D26 MANTARAYS XT 2T |
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Sep 8 2005, 06:22 AM
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anyone got links to the bios d/l page...it seems that tic tac official d/l page is down...
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Sep 8 2005, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 7 2005, 01:36 PM) totally D26 MANTARAYS XT 2T I second that. It lets me run my RAM and CPU at lower voltages, compared to the D27 Taipan I was using earlier. |
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Sep 8 2005, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(Monkey King @ Sep 8 2005, 06:22 AM) anyone got links to the bios d/l page...it seems that tic tac official d/l page is down... maner ader it's still alive and kicki'n http://www.tictac.katrourke.com/modules.ph...wdownload&cid=6 |
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Sep 8 2005, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(Monkey King @ Sep 8 2005, 06:22 AM) anyone got links to the bios d/l page...it seems that tic tac official d/l page is down... Hah, found after after some searching...http://www.tictac.katrourke.com/modules.ph...wdownload&cid=6 Edit: Dang must remember to refresh page before posting! This post has been edited by T0|\|`/: Sep 8 2005, 10:47 AM |
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Sep 8 2005, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(T0|\|`/ @ Sep 8 2005, 10:38 AM) I second that. It lets me run my RAM and CPU at lower voltages, compared to the D27 Taipan I was using earlier. what is d27 taipan good at? |
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Sep 8 2005, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 8 2005, 10:52 AM) what is d27 taipan good at? Couldn't really tell. My Geil bluerams were crap anyway, so couldn't oc FSB by much. What I noticed was, with the same BIOS mult/FSB/RAM/voltage settings, the temps reported by D27 Taipan were higher than D26 Mantaray by 3 -5 deg.  |
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 7 2005, 01:36 PM) totally D26 MANTARAYS XT 2T ada url untuk download kah? |
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Sep 8 2005, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Sep 8 2005, 11:35 AM) ada url untuk download kah? http://www.tictac.katrourke.com/modules.ph...wdownload&cid=6 pemalas tul harap bintang jer banyak. rujuk page 1 ke belakang. |
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Sep 10 2005, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 8 2005, 12:39 PM) http://www.tictac.katrourke.com/modules.ph...wdownload&cid=6 terima kasih , jangan macam itu lah, abang. pemalas tul harap bintang jer banyak. rujuk page 1 ke belakang. |
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Sep 10 2005, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Sep 10 2005, 06:11 PM) terima kasih , jangan macam itu lah, abang. takde ar joke jer. BTW: the website will down sometime* take note. |
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Sep 30 2005, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 10 2005, 07:06 PM) takde ar joke jer. any alternative url then? coz cant access. BTW: the website will down sometime* take note. |
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Oct 2 2005, 02:18 PM
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the link at the first page and the last page didn't work.
anyone else has the URL for D26 or D27? |
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Oct 2 2005, 03:07 PM
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I have a few BIOSes including the Mantarays D26, Trats D27 and Merlin's D26, which once was the best for me. Do you want them? I can send via email.
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QUOTE(vorthr @ Oct 3 2005, 03:09 AM) nice!BTW: try the mod bios,,, any prob/happy/bad story post/share here! me happy story with my d27 mantarays xt 2t |
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Oct 3 2005, 11:26 AM
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Sentential keeps a BIOS Vault for Abir NF7-S users at OCForums.com
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QUOTE(vorthr @ Oct 3 2005, 03:09 AM) QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Oct 3 2005, 09:20 AM) nice! wat is the special with that compare with other?BTW: try the mod bios,,, any prob/happy/bad story post/share here! me happy story with my d27 mantarays xt 2t QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Oct 3 2005, 11:26 AM) Sentential keeps a BIOS Vault for Abir NF7-S users at OCForums.com all mod bios can dl there?Link here: http://www.ocforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=43 |
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Oct 3 2005, 12:25 PM
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Yeah... I got all my modded BIOS from there, with a little help from Sentential and others when I just got my NF7.
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Oct 3 2005, 09:17 PM
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wat is the special with that compare with other?
stability |
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really need help here..sumone in KL can help me hot flash my bios chip..thanx in advance..
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QUOTE(ryoko2505 @ Oct 4 2005, 07:04 PM) really need help here..sumone in KL can help me hot flash my bios chip..thanx in advance.. lol what hapen???full story mind to share here??? |
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QUOTE(ryoko2505 @ Oct 4 2005, 07:04 PM) really need help here..sumone in KL can help me hot flash my bios chip..thanx in advance.. wat help u need? i rady to help. |
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lolzzzz...i accidentally flashed the bios with the wrong ver..now it's totally scewed up..if i use the Abit flash menu it says bios rom write protected..if use a floppy i get a "not an Award Bios" error message..LOLzzz..plsss..help needed..thanx...
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Oct 7 2005, 02:18 AM
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no body wanna help me izzit??PM ur number n i'll contact u..thanx in advance again..
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Oct 10 2005, 09:10 PM
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nowan one to help me izzit??
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Oct 11 2005, 01:44 AM
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any happy story with merlin bios???
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Oct 11 2005, 02:05 PM
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Merlin's D26 Taipan BIOS worked well for me.
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Oct 11 2005, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(ryoko2505 @ Oct 5 2005, 09:05 PM) lolzzzz...i accidentally flashed the bios with the wrong ver..now it's totally scewed up..if i use the Abit flash menu it says bios rom write protected..if use a floppy i get a "not an Award Bios" error message..LOLzzz..plsss..help needed..thanx... u mean ur mb is nf7 but flashed with nf7-s,is it? |
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Oct 11 2005, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 11 2005, 03:48 PM) u mean ur mb is nf7 but flashed with nf7-s,is it? All NF7 and NF7-S BIOSes are the same. |
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Oct 11 2005, 09:01 PM
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no laaa..not the same..nf7-s v2 has a D in the bios file..the one i flashed with don't have D..that's the problem...help....
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Oct 11 2005, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(ryoko2505 @ Oct 11 2005, 09:01 PM) no laaa..not the same..nf7-s v2 has a D in the bios file..the one i flashed with don't have D..that's the problem...help.... It's the same. All the modded BIOS I have been using are NF7-S BIOSes. If you check Abit's website, the source of the BIOS file for the NF7 and the NF7-S are the same.Check OCForums.com, they don't have separate sections for the NF7 and NF7-S, because they are all the same. Maybe you have flashed a v1.2 NF7 BIOS to your V2.0 motherboard? This post has been edited by colinwong89: Oct 11 2005, 09:14 PM |
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Oct 11 2005, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Oct 11 2005, 09:10 PM) It's the same. All the modded BIOS I have been using are NF7-S BIOSes. If you check Abit's website, the source of the BIOS file for the NF7 and the NF7-S are the same. yup all the same la! NF7 FAMILY ! Check OCForums.com, they don't have separate sections for the NF7 and NF7-S, because they are all the same. Maybe you have flashed a v1.2 NF7 BIOS to your V2.0 motherboard? BTW: faulty hapen when your mobo is v2.0 and flash with BIOS for lower version mobo! |
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Oct 12 2005, 09:09 PM
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ok..that could be the problem then..coz when i booted up the machine..even when i change the fsb to its default 166 clock..it still detects as 100..how come?but when i switch the processor to my old KT4AV board it detects it fine as at 166..help..
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Oct 13 2005, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(ryoko2505 @ Oct 12 2005, 09:09 PM) ok..that could be the problem then..coz when i booted up the machine..even when i change the fsb to its default 166 clock..it still detects as 100..how come?but when i switch the processor to my old KT4AV board it detects it fine as at 166..help.. why dun u just flash back with the correct bios then?  |
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Oct 13 2005, 06:00 PM
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that is the problem, i can't ,when i use abit flash menu it says bios rom is write protected,then i try to flash using floppy it says not Award bios..if i could easily flash it like u said, i wouldn't be asking for help then would i?
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Oct 13 2005, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(ryoko2505 @ Oct 13 2005, 06:00 PM) that is the problem, i can't ,when i use abit flash menu it says bios rom is write protected,then i try to flash using floppy it says not Award bios..if i could easily flash it like u said, i wouldn't be asking for help then would i? dun worry, can u show us the wrong bos u flash with? |
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Oct 13 2005, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 13 2005, 06:19 PM) dun worry, can u show us the wrong bos u flash with? let me guess.... D28 for nf7 v1.0+ ??? i nearly 99.99% do that ,,,,, get from abit site ,,,,,,,,,,i tot it wuz the latest! but my eye safe me! This post has been edited by Mr_47: Oct 13 2005, 11:31 PM |
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Oct 14 2005, 01:05 AM
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this is the freaking bios i wrongly used waaaaaaaaaaaa.. >>NF7-S2 = NF7215
when i shud be using sumthing like this one >> NF7-S v2 = NF7D27 |
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Oct 14 2005, 07:00 AM
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all nf7 bioses are same. i have conform it myself by changing nf7-m bios to my nf7-s v2(because i flash bios for nf7-s v1.x when i suppose to flash it using bios for nf7-s v2.0). it even can detect sata drive.
Ryoko2505, try to boot our pc using cd-rom and flash it via cd. to do that, using nero, create boot cd and burn the cd with the flash file, on your pc and flash it using dos. good luck. |
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Oct 14 2005, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(LarharT @ Oct 14 2005, 07:00 AM) all nf7 bioses are same. i have conform it myself by changing nf7-m bios to my nf7-s v2(because i flash bios for nf7-s v1.x when i suppose to flash it using bios for nf7-s v2.0). it even can detect sata drive. but she put the nf7-s2 not nf7-s v2 lah. Ryoko2505, try to boot our pc using cd-rom and flash it via cd. to do that, using nero, create boot cd and burn the cd with the flash file, on your pc and flash it using dos. good luck. |
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Oct 14 2005, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 14 2005, 09:06 AM) but she put the nf7-s2 not nf7-s v2 lah. yup NF7-S2 the new type mobo != NF7 v2.0 and NF7-S v2.0 series.(WATCHOUT) http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/produc...ies=1&model=204  my uncle use it,,,,, not cool mobo to oc. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Oct 14 2005, 02:04 PM |
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Oct 14 2005, 09:00 PM
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so any of u guys willing to help me out...ooOOo..n BTW..im a GUY..sorry for the misleading avatar..
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Oct 15 2005, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(ryoko2505 @ Oct 14 2005, 09:00 PM) so any of u guys willing to help me out...ooOOo..n BTW..im a GUY..sorry for the misleading avatar.. i'm at TERENGGANU now.........how can i help u! |
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Oct 15 2005, 12:34 AM
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hurmmmm....so anybody in KL is willing to help me out then?thanx for the offer Mr_47
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Oct 17 2005, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(ryoko2505 @ Oct 15 2005, 12:34 AM) hurmmmm....so anybody in KL is willing to help me out then?thanx for the offer Mr_47 saturday i will be at KL, u bring ur whole rig come over? |
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Oct 17 2005, 08:56 PM
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dude..where in KL will u be on saturday..i already switched over to use my old mobo..can i just bring the mobo..i got a spare duron to use wif the mobo..
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Oct 18 2005, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(ryoko2505 @ Oct 17 2005, 08:56 PM) dude..where in KL will u be on saturday..i already switched over to use my old mobo..can i just bring the mobo..i got a spare duron to use wif the mobo.. yup, at lyp , u come over lah. |
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Dec 13 2005, 11:29 AM
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elo, wanna ask if the mod bios can be used on NF7-M.
i'm not sure if u guys discussed it earlier. sorry if i'm repeating a same Q. |
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Dec 13 2005, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(cwcho83 @ Dec 13 2005, 11:29 AM) elo, wanna ask if the mod bios can be used on NF7-M. Make sure any modded bios you get is for NF7-M only and not for other mobo types. I say this cos on Abit's site the BIOSes for NF7-S 2.0 is totally different from NF7-M. Meaning if you flash non-NF7-M bios on your mobo, bye bye mobo i'm not sure if u guys discussed it earlier. sorry if i'm repeating a same Q. |
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Dec 13 2005, 12:39 PM
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Guys..i have a dead NF7-S , most probally it dead after my bios flashing in window mode with Abit Provided bios updater..now it cant boot-up,when turn on..both red and green LEDs are on..after 3-4min onli green remain..
i wonder can this be fix,i've heard off a method that is Hot-Flash..but wonder how it works and who can do it.. i kinda need sifu2 help here..thank u |
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Dec 13 2005, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(T0|\|`/ @ Dec 13 2005, 12:32 PM) Make sure any modded bios you get is for NF7-M only and not for other mobo types. I say this cos on Abit's site the BIOSes for NF7-S 2.0 is totally different from NF7-M. Meaning if you flash non-NF7-M bios on your mobo, bye bye mobo wah!!! thank you for telling me this. looks like i hav to stick with the official bios then |
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Dec 13 2005, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE([ r u g a ) ,Dec 13 2005, 12:39 PM]Guys..i have a dead NF7-S , most probally it dead after my bios flashing in window mode with Abit Provided bios updater..now it cant boot-up,when turn on..both red and green LEDs are on..after 3-4min onli green remain.. You need another computer with the exact same mobo. More details courtesy of Adrian Wong.i wonder can this be fix,i've heard off a method that is Hot-Flash..but wonder how it works and who can do it.. i kinda need sifu2 help here..thank u QUOTE However, the benefits of hot flashing may outweigh the risks. If your motherboard BIOS chip becomes corrupted, hot flashing allows you to revive the chip by replacing the corrupted BIOS software with a new BIOS image. Remember, once your BIOS becomes corrupted, you cannot boot up your computer. Therefore, the conventional BIOS flashing method cannot be used. If you cannot boot up the computer, you cannot load up the BIOS flash utility. This is where hot flashing comes in. Hot flashing circumvents the booting problem by using another computer to boot up. The corrupted BIOS chip is then transplanted into the computer (while it is still running) and updated with an uncorrupted BIOS image. This revives what was, for all intents and purposes, a dead BIOS chip. The BIOS chip can then be returned to the original motherboard to allow the computer to function once again. Of course, you will need another system with a motherboard that supports the same BIOS chip. But if you have access to such a computer and are not squeamish about swapping BIOS chips with the computer running, you can save yourself a lot of time and money. Forgot to add: as an alternative, why not email Abit to ask whether they sell BIOS chips flashed to the correct version for your mobo. Some manufacturers offer this kinda service... This post has been edited by T0|\|`/: Dec 13 2005, 02:19 PM |
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Dec 13 2005, 07:10 PM
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ohh..thanks..Abit email huh...kk..
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Dec 14 2005, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE([ r u g a ) ,Dec 13 2005, 12:39 PM]Guys..i have a dead NF7-S , most probally it dead after my bios flashing in window mode with Abit Provided bios updater..now it cant boot-up,when turn on..both red and green LEDs are on..after 3-4min onli green remain.. i actually have done hot flash to my Nf7-s v2.0 (after carelessly flashed it with nf7-s v1.0 i wonder can this be fix,i've heard off a method that is Hot-Flash..but wonder how it works and who can do it.. i kinda need sifu2 help here..thank u ) . If you have a friends that have any Nf7 series mobo you can do it to flash it( in my case, i'm using nf7-M mobo). but first you have to buy a ic clipper for the purpose to pull out the bios( the bios chip is quite tough to remove so you have a ic clipper to remove the chip. actually you have to do some modding to clip so it will reach the base of the bios chip). power on your friends mobo until it boot to dos. remove the bios and put your bios. and flash it. do flash using cdrw instead of floppy. it just that simple( and in reality it should be a little complx) good luck .and if you're living in my living area, i'm surely can help. huhuhu. This post has been edited by LarharT: Dec 14 2005, 02:03 PM |
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Dec 14 2005, 02:12 PM
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straight put in ur dead bios chip under windows running environment and flash with Abit Flashmenu also can
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Dec 18 2005, 04:35 PM
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mmmmm lots of foul during flashing bios!
is it that hard? This post has been edited by Mr_47: Dec 18 2005, 04:36 PM |
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Dec 20 2005, 04:52 PM
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no,it's not that hard. sometime using wrong bios and the floppy is faulty. using cdr is more safer than floppy.
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Dec 21 2005, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE(LarharT @ Dec 20 2005, 04:52 PM) no,it's not that hard. sometime using wrong bios and the floppy is faulty. using cdr is more safer than floppy. if abit easy can use abit flash ,,,software in windows enviroment! |
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Dec 21 2005, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Dec 21 2005, 03:22 AM) if abit easy can use abit flash ,,,software in windows enviroment! you should check whether your mobo can be flash in windows. some mobo abit cannot flash in windows enviroment. but all mobo can be flash in bios. do somemore reading in flashing bios. |
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Dec 22 2005, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(LarharT @ Dec 21 2005, 03:22 PM) you should check whether your mobo can be flash in windows. some mobo abit cannot flash in windows enviroment. but all mobo can be flash in bios. do somemore reading in flashing bios. NF7 2.0 abit can do in windows!huhu! |
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Dec 22 2005, 11:58 PM
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wow..my thread is still active here..
great job guys!yes,u can flash ur bios at window,make sure it is the correct n save version if not ur mobo bios chip will get burned |
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Dec 24 2005, 02:07 PM
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Hi guys ,
Need a little help , I just changed to this mobo. Sucessfully winflashed to D26 Mantaray XT 2T. I'm running stable with a pair of KVR BT-D43 @ DDR443 @ 2.8 vdimm | 3-4-4-8 timings. The problem is I can't seem to push my processor frequency higher. I'm running a 2400+ Athlon XP Thoroughbred B0 with 0244WPBW steppings @ Stock. If I'm not wrong all processors before 0438 are able to unlock multipliers. Can anyone teach me what I should do to push my processor higher ? What's the difference between an L12 sofmod / L3 bridge unlock / L5 ? I find all these abit confusing . My intention is to hit 200 FSB like everyone else is doing on their boards. e.g. 200x10 . Is this possible with my processor ? If it is I would appreciate tons of help. Would greatly appreciate the help guys |
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Dec 24 2005, 03:13 PM
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try increase ur vcore n vdimm coincidely..
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Dec 24 2005, 03:18 PM
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Off topic:Any idea where i can get this mobo, Abit NF7-S rev 2.0?
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Dec 24 2005, 03:29 PM
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try go lowyat 3rd floor. ROBYCOM .
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Dec 24 2005, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Dec 24 2005, 03:29 PM) try go lowyat 3rd floor. ROBYCOM . Just checked price at Startec got Abit NF7-SL RM240, isn't same? Googl it cannot find any info about this mobo. |
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Dec 24 2005, 04:27 PM
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SL is another version but 2.0 also.
Try get at ROBYCOM better |
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Dec 27 2005, 12:53 AM
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Got mobo Abit NF7-S rev 2.0 today but suddenly when i'm install proc AMD Barton 2500+ nothing appear at my display monitor. But the mobo running like a normal. Anybody have experience like this?
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Dec 27 2005, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 27 2005, 12:53 AM) Got mobo Abit NF7-S rev 2.0 today but suddenly when i'm install proc AMD Barton 2500+ nothing appear at my display monitor. But the mobo running like a normal. Anybody have experience like this? graphic card not installed properly? |
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Dec 27 2005, 03:37 PM
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maybe ur CPU or mobo problem, try use another cpu
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Dec 27 2005, 09:32 PM
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ikan... got any error sound/beep or not?
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Dec 27 2005, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 27 2005, 12:53 AM) Got mobo Abit NF7-S rev 2.0 today but suddenly when i'm install proc AMD Barton 2500+ nothing appear at my display monitor. But the mobo running like a normal. Anybody have experience like this? Try reseating the gfx card and on-off-on the PSU via the back switch. |
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Dec 27 2005, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Dec 27 2005, 11:47 AM) graphic card not installed properly? Already 2 times check. QUOTE(kayray @ Dec 27 2005, 03:37 PM) maybe ur CPU or mobo problem, try use another cpu Hope tomorrow i will test it to another mobo. Look which one problem either cpu or proc. QUOTE(amok @ Dec 27 2005, 09:32 PM) ikan... got any error sound/beep or not? No sound la bro amok QUOTE(ceo684 @ Dec 27 2005, 09:34 PM) Try reseating the gfx card and on-off-on the PSU via the back switch. Using chapalng psu. No switch on/off. Just call distro today, since my proc got warranty. They're said just can change to AMD Sempron 754 2500+ (1.4Ghz) This post has been edited by ikan_semilang: Dec 27 2005, 10:30 PM |
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Dec 28 2005, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 27 2005, 10:29 PM) Already 2 times check. sigh.... looks like had to try swaping with others cpu/mobo then... sorry to hear bout this.Hope tomorrow i will test it to another mobo. Look which one problem either cpu or proc. No sound la bro amok |
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Dec 28 2005, 01:07 AM
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QUOTE(amok @ Dec 28 2005, 12:57 AM) sigh.... looks like had to try swaping with others cpu/mobo then... sorry to hear bout this. Tomorrow final test with another mobo. If still cannot boot maybe i will ask seller to refund. ~ Sigh~ |
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Dec 28 2005, 03:49 AM
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 28 2005, 01:07 AM) Tomorrow final test with another mobo. If still cannot boot maybe i will ask seller to refund. ~ Sigh~ check the gab between the mobo and casing surface,,, make sure there is no short circuit from ur mobo metal to the casing metal...maybe ram not seated well?? This post has been edited by Mr_47: Dec 28 2005, 03:50 AM |
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Dec 28 2005, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Dec 28 2005, 03:49 AM) check the gab between the mobo and casing surface,,, make sure there is no short circuit from ur mobo metal to the casing metal... Maybe i will try your step after i'm test it another mobo. If same cannot boot, sure proc give problem. Thanks for ur tips. maybe ram not seated well?? |
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Dec 29 2005, 02:48 PM
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Just call Robyncom and they said Abit NF7-SL rev 2.0 are same with Abit NF7-S rev 2.0. Same board and accs accept no sata converter. Isn't wprth to buy it?
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Dec 29 2005, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 28 2005, 08:19 AM) Maybe i will try your step after i'm test it another mobo. If same cannot boot, sure proc give problem. Thanks for ur tips. I'd just remember, when first got my nf7s rev 2, after assembling everything can switch on but no sound no screen no nothing, tried almost everything, change cpu, vga, psu, clean underware etc. then someone told me (sorry can't remember who) try just 1 stick of ram then try a diffn't stick... then voila it lives. |
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Jan 3 2006, 08:04 PM
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Just bought NF7-SL rev 2.0 for my friends. All the design mobo are same but just got different the capacitor. Abit NF7-S rev 2.0 more cap ROBYCOM from NF7-SL and no serialle.
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Jan 4 2006, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Jan 3 2006, 08:04 PM) Just bought NF7-SL rev 2.0 for my friends. All the design mobo are same but just got different the capacitor. Abit NF7-S rev 2.0 more cap ROBYCOM from NF7-SL and no serialle. diff ramslot color??black or purple or aqua? |
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Jan 4 2006, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jan 4 2006, 01:13 PM) diff ramslot color?? Purple. black or purple or aqua? |
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Jan 4 2006, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Jan 4 2006, 01:18 PM) Purple. mine black! |
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Jan 4 2006, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jan 4 2006, 01:43 PM) mine black! But capacitor are different with NF7-SL. NF7-S rev 2.0 got many cap Robycom but NF7-SL just a little. Mine using purple slot and it's NF7-S rev 2.0. |
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Jan 14 2006, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Jan 4 2006, 01:46 PM) But capacitor are different with NF7-SL. NF7-S rev 2.0 got many cap Robycom but NF7-SL just a little. Mine using purple slot and it's NF7-S rev 2.0. all the same only the batch color diff! |
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Jan 14 2006, 01:53 PM
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Jan 15 2006, 02:58 AM
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has anyone heard of a bios for nf7-s2 that allows multiplier change ?
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Jan 15 2006, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Jan 14 2006, 01:53 PM) better check the dimension of the heatsink first before buying.. the location of the cpu socktet is so near to the end of the board.. lastime i bought a cooler master heatsink ( no so big i think) it stuck with the PSU (im using a ATX Desktop Casing) .. and i have to self mod the heatsink a bit to be able to use it |
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Jan 16 2006, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Jan 14 2006, 01:53 PM) no issues fish, guaranteed |
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Jan 16 2006, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 16 2006, 03:07 PM) no issues fish, guaranteed Thanks kucing. Actually got somebody want to trade with mine custom wc but mia already. So no point ask about that heatsink. Using back wc rite now. |
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Jan 17 2006, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ May 1 2005, 03:49 PM) ABIT NF7 / NF7-S Rev2.0 an7 boleh guna tak mod ni?Bios Version : D27 Bios name : 3DFire Change Log : - D23 3D Fire Interface - 3D Fire Ingredients included - D26 Mantarays XT PCR Patching[ ive dl it from http://s6.invisionfree.com/underclock/inde...p?showtopic=393 how to change the 1T n 2T log??anyone ? |
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Jan 18 2006, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(arafat @ Jan 17 2006, 04:59 PM) an7 boleh guna tak mod ni? nope NF7 family v2.0 jer! |
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Jan 18 2006, 04:39 PM
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I'm using D26 MantaRay XT @ 2T and I'm having problems getting past 220mhz for FSB , I can hit 222mhz but it becomes unstable after a couple of hours. I'm using KVR Hynix BT/AT-D43's in Dual Channel. They will run 220mhz no problems @ 3-4-4-8. Processor is AMD Athlon XP-M @ 2200 / 1.65v. Any bios other bios which willow allow me to go higher ?
Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks |
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Jan 18 2006, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(Holi^oNe @ Jan 18 2006, 04:39 PM) I'm using D26 MantaRay XT @ 2T and I'm having problems getting past 220mhz for FSB , I can hit 222mhz but it becomes unstable after a couple of hours. I'm using KVR Hynix BT/AT-D43's in Dual Channel. They will run 220mhz no problems @ 3-4-4-8. Processor is AMD Athlon XP-M @ 2200 / 1.65v. Any bios other bios which willow allow me to go higher ? Try using Taipan biosAny feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks 1T D27 Taipan 0,3 (SATA 4250) (http://downloads.hwtweakers.net/bios/AMD_k7/abit/nf7_rev2.0/merlin/D27_TaiPan_0.3_ED_Bpl_3.19_28.12.04.rar) 2T D27 Taipan 0,3 (SATA 4250) CPC OFF (http://downloads.hwtweakers.net/bios/AMD_k7/abit/nf7_rev2.0/merlin/D27_TaiPan_0.3_ED_Bpl_3.19C_27.12.04.rar) before this, i too, using mantaray XT n onli manage to achieve 220-230. using this bios, 250-253 . |
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Jan 18 2006, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ Jan 18 2006, 08:20 PM) Try using Taipan bios Bro, you using NF7-S v2.0 ? I noticed the link doesn't have the -S there but it does say SATA with the bios title. I takut flash wrong one leh. ~! Once you confirm baru I flash 1T D27 Taipan 0,3 (SATA 4250) (http://downloads.hwtweakers.net/bios/AMD_k7/abit/nf7_rev2.0/merlin/D27_TaiPan_0.3_ED_Bpl_3.19_28.12.04.rar) 2T D27 Taipan 0,3 (SATA 4250) CPC OFF (http://downloads.hwtweakers.net/bios/AMD_k7/abit/nf7_rev2.0/merlin/D27_TaiPan_0.3_ED_Bpl_3.19C_27.12.04.rar) before this, i too, using mantaray XT n onli manage to achieve 220-230. using this bios, 250-253 . |
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Jan 18 2006, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(Holi^oNe @ Jan 18 2006, 04:39 PM) I'm using D26 MantaRay XT @ 2T and I'm having problems getting past 220mhz for FSB , I can hit 222mhz but it becomes unstable after a couple of hours. I'm using KVR Hynix BT/AT-D43's in Dual Channel. They will run 220mhz no problems @ 3-4-4-8. Processor is AMD Athlon XP-M @ 2200 / 1.65v. Any bios other bios which willow allow me to go higher ? dude what is your power supply spec???Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks maybe limitation by a power supply!!! QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ Jan 18 2006, 08:20 PM) Try using Taipan bios dude taipan bios proven burn someone mobo here!!!!1T D27 Taipan 0,3 (SATA 4250) (http://downloads.hwtweakers.net/bios/AMD_k7/abit/nf7_rev2.0/merlin/D27_TaiPan_0.3_ED_Bpl_3.19_28.12.04.rar) 2T D27 Taipan 0,3 (SATA 4250) CPC OFF (http://downloads.hwtweakers.net/bios/AMD_k7/abit/nf7_rev2.0/merlin/D27_TaiPan_0.3_ED_Bpl_3.19C_27.12.04.rar) before this, i too, using mantaray XT n onli manage to achieve 220-230. using this bios, 250-253 . try check back post! someone burn their mobo when flashes to taipan bios! |
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Jan 18 2006, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jan 18 2006, 10:46 PM) dude what is your power supply spec??? Ahhh ~! I flashed already ~!. Nvm now I go flash to trats D27 ~!. Wish me luck ~!maybe limitation by a power supply!!! dude taipan bios proven burn someone mobo here!!!! try check back post! someone burn their mobo when flashes to taipan bios! |
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Jan 19 2006, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(Holi^oNe @ Jan 18 2006, 10:53 PM) Ahhh ~! I flashed already ~!. Nvm now I go flash to trats D27 ~!. Wish me luck ~! i pray for u dude,,,,man mantarays xt 2t is the best stable bios outthere! |
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Jan 19 2006, 01:47 PM
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Revert back to Mantaray D26 XT 2T. Like you said , seems to be the most stable bios. Maybe later I'll play again. Thanks
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Jan 19 2006, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(Holi^oNe @ Jan 19 2006, 01:47 PM) Revert back to Mantaray D26 XT 2T. Like you said , seems to be the most stable bios. Maybe later I'll play again. Thanks ill be glad to help ya!BTW; too many sins to erase thow! with the mantarays xt 2t i got the highest fsb and tight timming! |
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Jan 19 2006, 07:24 PM
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With some mod. bios like D27 3D fire, you have to softmod the L12 in order to get higher fsb.
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Jan 19 2006, 07:36 PM
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Erm im using NF7-S v.2.0 , AMD Athlon XP Throughbred-B 2600 and Samsung TCCD DDR600 in dual channel mode, ACbel 350watt Active PFC...
but seems like i cannot go beyong 215 FSB@.. the system can boot but cannot load window.. im not sure why.. any recomendation for bios? |
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Jan 19 2006, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(XCremator @ Jan 19 2006, 07:36 PM) Erm im using NF7-S v.2.0 , AMD Athlon XP Throughbred-B 2600 and Samsung TCCD DDR600 in dual channel mode, ACbel 350watt Active PFC... seems like not enough vcore to me..... try upping the vcore 1 notch....but seems like i cannot go beyong 215 FSB@.. the system can boot but cannot load window.. im not sure why.. any recomendation for bios? |
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Jan 19 2006, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jan 19 2006, 07:24 PM) With some mod. bios like D27 3D fire, you have to softmod the L12 in order to get higher fsb. man BARTON core cant do L12 watchout man! |
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Jan 19 2006, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jan 19 2006, 10:03 PM) man BARTON core cant do L12 watchout man! who told u kenot ? all socket A processor can do L12 mod man .... make sure u correctly connected those pins if not u knw wut gonna happen next |
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Jan 19 2006, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(StarNet @ Jan 19 2006, 09:09 PM) who told u kenot ? all socket A processor can do L12 mod man .... make sure u correctly connected those pins bro its for all except BARTON! if not u knw wut gonna happen next """ Mobile / TBred L12 Mod. So now you have got all our hardware and determined you have a good OCing mobo i.e. 220+fsb. The next thing we have to do is the L12 mod by wire trick. This is for the folks running the Tbred 133 cpu's and the 133 Mobile cpu's. THIS IS NOT FOR BARTON core cpu's just for the TBred/Mobile cpu's. If you have a Barton and your hardware & mobo are capable, then you should easily go well past the 220FSB. The L12 mod for TBred/Mobile is done simply by inserting a 1 cm strand of telephone wire into 2 holes in the cpu socket, bend it in the shape of a U and insert it in holes that are marked in the picture below. Blue markings at the lower left of the image of CPU socket""" from http://www.logan.eclipse.co.uk/abit_nf7_(s)_v2_0.htm This post has been edited by Mr_47: Jan 20 2006, 12:21 AM |
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Jan 20 2006, 09:27 AM
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erm... what HSF do u guys have installed on ur NF7-s ?
i'm thinking of ThermalRight SLK-9000u ? ok ka ? |
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Jan 20 2006, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jan 19 2006, 04:37 PM) ill be glad to help ya! 2T is slower than 1T by 15-17%. That's y u achieved highest fsb on 2T compare to 1T. If u benchmark, let's say, 220 fsb at 1T to a 220 fsb at 2T, 2T will loose surely. 2T need around 235-240 fsb to match the result of 1T. So, if u aiming for highest bandwidth, better go for 1T ( usually bios modder name it without CPC in the filename). If u're aiming for higher stability, then, go for 2T. I'm not saying with 1T it's not stable. Just look here, from lyn sandra overclocking result,BTW; too many sins to erase thow! with the mantarays xt 2t i got the highest fsb and tight timming! 7. HydefK - 3955 PTS - Twinmos CH5 UTT @ 11-2-2-2 @ 1T @ 255 MHZ @ 3.3 VDIMM 8. kelvin_hata - 3954 PTS - Corsair PC3200 CH5 @ 11-2-3-2 @ 2T @ 265 MHZ @ 3.3 VDIMM even at 265@2T, 1T at 255 still win. just my 0.5 cent. |
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Jan 20 2006, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jan 19 2006, 11:12 PM) bro its for all except BARTON! oh ya? for desktop barton i really have no idea but mobile barton will do. |
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Jan 20 2006, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jan 20 2006, 10:09 AM) oh ya? for desktop barton i really have no idea but mobile barton will do. mobile and tbred no prob! |
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Jan 20 2006, 11:50 PM
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i'm thinking of trying this mod out.
currently my rig is still in the setup stage. i have a athlon xp 1800++ processor tbred , abit nf7-s , MAgnum 300 PSU any reccomendation for RAM ? tq. |
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Jan 21 2006, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(zahri @ Jan 20 2006, 11:50 PM) i'm thinking of trying this mod out. get the kingston valueram man,,,,,,,,,get the ddr400 and do 1 gig 512x2 (dual channel) pump up to 2.9 and do 2-2-2-11currently my rig is still in the setup stage. i have a athlon xp 1800++ processor tbred , abit nf7-s , MAgnum 300 PSU any reccomendation for RAM ? tq. use mantarays xt 2t and get the fsb 220+,,,,,,add more vcore if u want higher! and get the good power supply! |
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Jan 22 2006, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jan 21 2006, 02:57 AM) get the kingston valueram man,,,,,,,,,get the ddr400 and do 1 gig 512x2 (dual channel) pump up to 2.9 and do 2-2-2-11 erm... went to a shop just now,use mantarays xt 2t and get the fsb 220+,,,,,,add more vcore if u want higher! and get the good power supply! i was looking at the Corsair RAM, he gave me a stack to look at, So i found 2 types.. i type was with a VALUE RAM Chip and the other one is a CORSAIR chip. Is there any difference between the 2 ? Still havent got my Ram yet... thanks for the advice mr_47 , will try it out.. |
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Jan 23 2006, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jan 18 2006, 12:33 AM) nope NF7 family v2.0 jer! then is there any mod bios for an7?tq |
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Jan 23 2006, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(arafat @ Jan 23 2006, 12:27 PM) then is there any mod bios for an7? maybe u have to wait for mr 47 or some else to answer.. tq |
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Jan 23 2006, 04:51 PM
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This thread is still alive and kicking... no new releases since Trats' D27 BIOS?
No new stuff from Merlin and tictac? This post has been edited by colinwong89: Jan 23 2006, 04:52 PM |
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Jan 23 2006, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jan 23 2006, 04:51 PM) This thread is still alive and kicking... no new releases since Trats' D27 BIOS? Abit off topic here, collin, from ur sig, ur bt-d43, ur' running 3.3v? wah... from the official whitepaper, D43 operating volt is 2.5v ~ 2.7v onli. Y u pump so much volt? at ur mem timing, using 2.7v-2.8v oso can, unless u wan them to run 2-2-2-11 or 2.5-2-2-11 ( onli if they capable lah ). Better lowered ur ram voltage.No new stuff from Merlin and tictac? Just my 2 cent. |
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Jan 24 2006, 12:15 AM
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He's running them at 245 fsb lah.
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Jan 24 2006, 01:26 AM
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I run mine at 258 fsb 1:1 at 2.9 onli . 2.5-2-2-11 .
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Jan 24 2006, 03:42 PM
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today getting my heatsinks and thermal paste..
yesterday just bought a casing for my amd rig.... hopefully everything is succesfull and can start ocing... erm... still havent got my ram yet though.... still thinking... might consider mr_47's idea... This post has been edited by zahri: Jan 24 2006, 03:43 PM |
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Jan 24 2006, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(zahri @ Jan 22 2006, 04:55 PM) erm... went to a shop just now, erm... why dont u buy KVR with D43 chip... kickin i was looking at the Corsair RAM, he gave me a stack to look at, So i found 2 types.. i type was with a VALUE RAM Chip and the other one is a CORSAIR chip. Is there any difference between the 2 ? Still havent got my Ram yet... thanks for the advice mr_47 , will try it out.. |
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Jan 24 2006, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ Jan 23 2006, 08:27 PM) Abit off topic here, collin, from ur sig, ur bt-d43, ur' running 3.3v? wah... from the official whitepaper, D43 operating volt is 2.5v ~ 2.7v onli. Y u pump so much volt? at ur mem timing, using 2.7v-2.8v oso can, unless u wan them to run 2-2-2-11 or 2.5-2-2-11 ( onli if they capable lah ). Better lowered ur ram voltage. Thanks for the tip, but the reason I'm doing this is because my NF7 can't take high FSB speeds (I don't know why, it tends to crap out on me), and my Sempron is reaching it's limits. I know D43s are for FSB, not timings, but let's just say that I'm trying a different approach. Just my 2 cent. So, I did a few tests and I found that I could lower down a timing by feeding 3.3v to my D43s at low FSB speeds. So why not? Nice to see that you are lucky with your D43s, satanhead2003. |
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Jan 25 2006, 04:10 AM
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QUOTE(arafat @ Jan 23 2006, 10:27 AM) then is there any mod bios for an7? i dunno but i see some topic in official abit forum!tq http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=50974 http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=80507 DIRECT FEED FOR THE LITTLE BABY BIRD! This post has been edited by Mr_47: Jan 25 2006, 04:15 AM |
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Jan 25 2006, 09:11 AM
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does anyone of you have problem on the ram slots?
i think my 2nd ram slots are dead, third one needs skill to work too, sometimes can sometimes no |
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Jan 25 2006, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jan 25 2006, 10:11 AM) does anyone of you have problem on the ram slots? i think my 2nd ram slots are dead, third one needs skill to work too, sometimes can sometimes no my mobo aso seems to be like that.... i can tell u what's wrong here... ur ram n slot are dirty... clean it up ... how to clean ?ok here's the perfect things to do .... unplug ur ram .... den u take soft rubber.... like ppl used in examination... u rub on da contact point on ur ram... u keep rub it until u see it shiny then u plug in the slot again... if kenot... unplug and rub with rubber again... this tricks really works man ... try it out p/s : after u do that... u will feel like very easy to plug in the slot... very syok 1 dat feeling... This post has been edited by StarNet: Jan 25 2006, 01:03 PM |
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Jan 25 2006, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jan 25 2006, 09:11 AM) does anyone of you have problem on the ram slots? clean the dust!i think my 2nd ram slots are dead, third one needs skill to work too, sometimes can sometimes no |
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Jan 26 2006, 12:04 PM
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hye,
i just fixed up my rig yesterday, currently i'm running on these : Athlon XP 1800++ Abit NF7-S 128MB DDRAM Kingston ValueRAM Magnum 300 , 300 Watts Purepower DVD - Rom 3 Case Fan's Stock HSF with THERMALTAKE 80MM FAN this is the pics i took this morning..... ABIT EQ  Why is my CPU TEMP, at 208 C ? CPUid  CPUZ  |
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Jan 26 2006, 12:04 PM
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Hope U Guys could help me out with my new RIG ?
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Jan 26 2006, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(zahri @ Jan 26 2006, 12:04 PM) Hope U Guys could help me out with my new RIG ? update your ABIT EQ to the latest one! |
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Jan 26 2006, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jan 26 2006, 03:44 PM) update your ABIT EQ to the latest one! ok....will update it.... erm... where should i download the latest one ? |
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Jan 26 2006, 03:19 PM
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How about the ABIT website?
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Jan 26 2006, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jan 26 2006, 05:19 PM) How about the ABIT website? i downloaded the one i have now from the Abit Website...i might go and check it out again.... |
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Jan 27 2006, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(StarNet @ Jan 25 2006, 01:01 PM) p/s : after u do that... u will feel like very easy to plug in the slot... lol thanks very syok 1 dat feeling... but you let me think of other thinks lah |
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Jan 27 2006, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE very syok 1 dat feeling... that word makes it sound different.... hehehe....anyways.. i downloaded my Abit Eq from Abit Website.... |
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Jan 27 2006, 11:42 AM
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i got an issue here,when i using memtest i can run 230mhz 2-2-2-11 pass all the tests no problem
but when entering windows the applications tend to crash especially warcraft 3  ||| and games, all the applications are ok, it just crashed though ( not in blue screen) any one of you encounter this kind of issue? It still happens even though i max out my vdimm at 2.9V. |
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Jan 27 2006, 11:49 AM
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no there yet bro,
maybe can wait for other people's opinion.... |
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Jan 27 2006, 05:20 PM
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maybe CNY....
Happy CNY !! me just sit home and ........ do whatever i think i shud do.... hehehe..... |
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Jan 27 2006, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jan 27 2006, 11:42 AM) i got an issue here,when i using memtest i can run 230mhz 2-2-2-11 pass all the tests no problem maybe bcoz the temp.. u've active ccoling for the ram?..but when entering windows the applications tend to crash especially warcraft 3 ||| and games, all the applications are ok, it just crashed though ( not in blue screen) any one of you encounter this kind of issue? It still happens even though i max out my vdimm at 2.9V. |
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Jan 28 2006, 03:23 AM
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f.e.a.r you are right.
some people so greedy want tight timing lol but never set up properly thier system. currently using nf-7s plus winbound ch6 512x2(thx kiljim )both on dual channel doing 225 2/3/3/11 with cpu interface on. |
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Jan 28 2006, 02:57 PM
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I can't set CPU Interface to Off, if I do that my PC wouldn't even start at all.
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Jan 28 2006, 05:05 PM
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If you overclock and set cpu interface on and your pc survives what ever fsb u get, there will be a noticibale difference in sandra memory benchies and overall benchies ie 3dmark and pcmark.
if u set to disable, it will use the stable parameters and less aggresive which sucks if your pc did not boot up, meaning your pc is not stable in overclock situations. Imho try setting your system to default and change fsb and timings to suit 200 mhz first. see if boot, if yes then slowly increase with cpu interface on. it will be better i tell u |
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Jan 28 2006, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(F.E.A.R @ Jan 28 2006, 05:02 PM) lol what fsb is that?if disable cpu interface should be better stabilty coz it not using the oced fsb parameter yup some ppl does! lol me using kingston valueram 3x512 ddr400 hynix d-43 chip! doing 2-2-2-11 with 2.9V cool! and btw what bios are u using? theres one bios from that dude that created the manta rays...that allow u to hit insanely high fsb's and stable but the benchmarks would lower eventho u hit tight timings and stuff. forgot edi what bios....cpc on and cpc off if im not mistaken. Always get the CPC ON ones....those are the real performance. CPC off will let u hit crazy speeds but in sandra memory benchies..u can see whats the real difference between cpc on and off |
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Jan 28 2006, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jan 27 2006, 11:42 AM) i got an issue here,when i using memtest i can run 230mhz 2-2-2-11 pass all the tests no problem Maybe,increase vAGP?but when entering windows the applications tend to crash especially warcraft 3 ||| and games, all the applications are ok, it just crashed though ( not in blue screen) any one of you encounter this kind of issue? It still happens even though i max out my vdimm at 2.9V. |
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Jan 28 2006, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(F.E.A.R @ Jan 28 2006, 05:02 PM) lol 3x512 Hynix D-43 can hit 2-2-2-11 ?! nice man if disable cpu interface should be better stabilty coz it not using the oced fsb parameter yup some ppl does! lol me using kingston valueram 3x512 ddr400 hynix d-43 chip! doing 2-2-2-11 with 2.9V cool! |
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Jan 30 2006, 07:23 AM
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220 fsb? crazy
got any sandra mem benchies? wanna c how they score againts the bh5's. shud be close fight |
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Jan 30 2006, 01:15 PM
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with 2T bios i dun think the scores can match BH5 speeds...
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Jan 31 2006, 12:03 AM
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ok...
successfully.... installed the new Abit Eq during idle i get 49c , during 100% load i get a 55c is this ok , normal ?? |
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Jan 31 2006, 01:47 AM
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QUOTE(zahri @ Jan 31 2006, 12:03 AM) ok... Sounds right. successfully.... installed the new Abit Eq during idle i get 49c , during 100% load i get a 55c is this ok , normal ?? I get 65C during full load on my proc. |
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Jan 31 2006, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ Jan 28 2006, 05:28 PM) Maybe,increase vAGP? I thought upping the Vagp to increase stability only works for the P4 chipsets? I tried upping the voltage before, but I don't get any increase in stability or overclocking. |
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Feb 1 2006, 01:11 AM
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Actually, i'm referring to Radeon problem..
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Feb 2 2006, 02:05 AM
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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Jan 27 2006, 05:28 PM) maybe bcoz the temp.. u've active ccoling for the ram?.. not likely, i'm using redlines and 2.9V is not an issue.QUOTE(F.E.A.R @ Jan 27 2006, 09:52 PM) do 2.5 -2 -2 -11 i see, i will try it out, but i seems weired doesnt passing memtest means that the configuration is stable? Furthermore, i'm using 2T and imho 220mhz on 2-2-2-11 is not quite a big push.p[roblem solved! QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ Jan 28 2006, 05:28 PM) Maybe,increase vAGP? why agp? |
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Feb 2 2006, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jan 31 2006, 03:47 AM) Sounds right. in this case, i'm doing fine then.. I get 65C during full load on my proc.but i'm only running at 1.866 ghz at 128 DDr. |
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Feb 2 2006, 02:49 AM
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jan 27 2006, 11:42 AM) i got an issue here,when i using memtest i can run 230mhz 2-2-2-11 pass all the tests no problem This is y.... but when entering windows the applications tend to crash especially warcraft 3 ||| and games, all the applications are ok, it just crashed though ( not in blue screen) any one of you encounter this kind of issue? It still happens even though i max out my vdimm at 2.9V. |
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Feb 2 2006, 01:20 PM
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doesnt quite make sense,
it's the memory i believe that cause the problem as there are indication in the war3 error log 200 mhz it runs fine and 220 mhz it crashes doesnt sound like a video problem to me |
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Feb 2 2006, 01:23 PM
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me oso got prob like this, w/o gfx oc'ed, but proc oc to the max. increasing the vagp, solve it. sometimes, it can be the video driver. that's y i changed to modded driver, dhzeropoints or ngo is best for me.
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Feb 2 2006, 07:58 PM
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well i'm using xtreme-g
will give it a shot though |
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Feb 3 2006, 09:41 PM
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erm....
anyone know what causes this problem ? when my windows xp screen is loading.... a two tone siren cud be heard... sometimes it just shuts down..... but sometimes u can go into windows... the moment abit EQ loads.... it shuts up.... whats the problem ehh ?? i'm blur down to earth already..... |
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Feb 4 2006, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(zahri @ Feb 3 2006, 09:41 PM) erm.... dude please set the low and high voltage limit in your abit EQ!anyone know what causes this problem ? when my windows xp screen is loading.... a two tone siren cud be heard... sometimes it just shuts down..... but sometimes u can go into windows... the moment abit EQ loads.... it shuts up.... whats the problem ehh ?? i'm blur down to earth already..... solved! |
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Feb 5 2006, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Feb 4 2006, 09:33 PM) dude please set the low and high voltage limit in your abit EQ! ok...solved! thanks.... i thought so there might be something fishy with that abit eq... anyways, i'll go home and try it.... |
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Feb 6 2006, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(zahri @ Feb 5 2006, 07:22 PM) ok... so how its going??thanks.... i thought so there might be something fishy with that abit eq... anyways, i'll go home and try it.... all fine dude??? |
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Feb 7 2006, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Feb 6 2006, 06:10 PM) so how its going?? i think i know my problem now !!all fine dude??? from the manual it seems the mobo needs a 350 watt power supply for a heavily loaded pc... i'm running 300 watts... so thats why it beeps.... i think.... and sometimes the screen flicker, maybe its due to the lack of power... now have to search for a new PSU.... any reccomendation... some say enermax, some say CM but i also dunno... hehe..... |
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Feb 7 2006, 03:43 PM
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ohh...
installed new Rams yesterday... 256 x 2 - Kingmax with kingmax chipsets.... any comments ? erm i installed it to the 3rd and 2nd slot ? shud i change it ? |
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Feb 7 2006, 07:02 PM
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monitor flicker doesnt has anything to do with power supply..300W psu is just enuff..JUST enuff,but not recommended tho.yeah get a new one.look around based on your budget
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Feb 8 2006, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(zahri @ Feb 7 2006, 03:41 PM) i think i know my problem now !! yeap sometime abit board will beep for hunger of more power....from the manual it seems the mobo needs a 350 watt power supply for a heavily loaded pc... i'm running 300 watts... so thats why it beeps.... i think.... and sometimes the screen flicker, maybe its due to the lack of power... now have to search for a new PSU.... any reccomendation... some say enermax, some say CM but i also dunno... hehe..... btw: both brand is just fine,,,, go for it. QUOTE(zahri @ Feb 7 2006, 03:43 PM) ohh... install ram from slot 3 then 2 then 1installed new Rams yesterday... 256 x 2 - Kingmax with kingmax chipsets.... any comments ? erm i installed it to the 3rd and 2nd slot ? shud i change it ? so in your situation ,,,it is just fine,,,, dual mode! |
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Feb 8 2006, 04:42 PM
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ok thanks....
   Is there anything wrong with the above monitoring ?? the beep is anoying though thinking of going for the CoolerMaster 450w Realpower Black color... around Rm 245- 255 ? what do u think ? This post has been edited by zahri: Feb 8 2006, 04:43 PM |
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Feb 8 2006, 04:46 PM
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arghh....
cud not get the KVR with d43 chips in jb... so hard !! |
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Feb 8 2006, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(zahri @ Feb 8 2006, 04:42 PM) ok thanks.... man try set the vcore to 1.8 or 1.85 in bios!Is there anything wrong with the above monitoring ?? the beep is anoying though thinking of going for the CoolerMaster 450w Realpower Black color... around Rm 245- 255 ? what do u think ? |
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Feb 8 2006, 11:57 PM
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any nf7 user try the vdimm bios trick successfully?
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Feb 9 2006, 12:12 AM
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Zahri, which bios r u in? CPC off or CPC on? 1.8 or 1.85 ? wahhh.... need good cooling / water there dude. max i co wif this 1.75v. try increasing the VDimm. 2.8v - 2.9v... i say, still safe for vdimm. n one more thing, monitor ur +12v n +3.3v. these rails should be in range +-5%. If lower, then need a good PSU. If its fluctuate so much (more than 0.1v), need fluctuation mod there. ask collinwong for this mod.
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Feb 9 2006, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Feb 8 2006, 11:57 PM) any nf7 user try the vdimm bios trick successfully? What Vdimm BIOS mod? |
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Feb 9 2006, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ Feb 9 2006, 12:12 AM) Zahri, which bios r u in? CPC off or CPC on? 1.8 or 1.85 ? wahhh.... need good cooling / water there dude. max i co wif this 1.75v. try increasing the VDimm. 2.8v - 2.9v... i say, still safe for vdimm. n one more thing, monitor ur +12v n +3.3v. these rails should be in range +-5%. If lower, then need a good PSU. If its fluctuate so much (more than 0.1v), need fluctuation mod there. ask collinwong for this mod. no need to fear the temp,,,,, the max is 80!,,,,if u do 70 it is just fine.BTW: the PSU fluctuation is crap! well im running my rig in rm 45 450w PSU.... and the +12 = 11.80 3.33 = 3.22 and can oc sky high no prob at all,,,, what is "fluctuation mod",,,explain please! BTW: full system spec is at my siggy! |
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Feb 9 2006, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Feb 9 2006, 11:31 AM) no need to fear the temp,,,,, the max is 80!,,,,if u do 70 it is just fine. Fluctuation mod? minimized the fluctuates lorr..... collinwong "teach" me dis. BTW: the PSU fluctuation is crap! well im running my rig in rm 45 450w PSU.... and the +12 = 11.80 3.33 = 3.22 and can oc sky high no prob at all,,,, what is "fluctuation mod",,,explain please! BTW: full system spec is at my siggy! |
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Feb 9 2006, 01:30 PM
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mr_47,
thanks for the tip, will go home and do that !! increase to 1.8v or 1.85using a ThermalTake GOLF 325 COmbo Heatsink might change to SLK900A. satanhead2003, QUOTE Zahri, which bios r u in? CPC off or CPC on? 1.8 or 1.85 ? wahhh.... need good cooling / water there dude. max i co wif this 1.75v. try increasing the VDimm. 2.8v - 2.9v... i say, still safe for vdimm. n one more thing, monitor ur +12v n +3.3v. these rails should be in range +-5%. If lower, then need a good PSU. If its fluctuate so much (more than 0.1v), need fluctuation mod there. ask collinwong for this mod. i did not flash my bios yet, i'm still on the original Abit bios.. CPC not sure.... my vdimm is 2.6v i think... rite now on Kingmax DDR's 256mb x 2, not sure wether can OC. some say CAN !! |
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Feb 9 2006, 03:04 PM
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The Vcore fluctuate mod was found by Tictac and another popular forumer in Tictac's website before.
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Feb 9 2006, 03:04 PM
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i wont bet a high oc wif official bios,tho. in my exp, highest oc on official bios is around 215-220. after using modded bios, wif some burning n tweaking, able to do 260 wif 2.5-2-2-11.
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Feb 9 2006, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ Feb 9 2006, 05:04 PM) i wont bet a high oc wif official bios,tho. in my exp, highest oc on official bios is around 215-220. after using modded bios, wif some burning n tweaking, able to do 260 wif 2.5-2-2-11. erm... 215 - 220 fsb... , rams ? 1 gb ? |
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Feb 9 2006, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(zahri @ Feb 9 2006, 03:37 PM) erm... 215 - 220 fsb... , rams ? 1 gb ? yup 1G. double sided. thats y i use 2T. |
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Feb 9 2006, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Feb 9 2006, 12:31 PM) no need to fear the temp,,,,, the max is 80!,,,,if u do 70 it is just fine. fluctuation mod is a mod that basicly made the vcore STABLE .... BTW: the PSU fluctuation is crap! well im running my rig in rm 45 450w PSU.... and the +12 = 11.80 3.33 = 3.22 and can oc sky high no prob at all,,,, what is "fluctuation mod",,,explain please! BTW: full system spec is at my siggy! it shorten da fluctuation range .... thus maintaining stable vcore to ur processor .... ok RM 45 psu .... it's sure doing fine .... but .... once it blows.... bye bye to ur rig this is for real... last time i dun believe it ... until my fren's mobo fried... graphic card kong etc becoz of psu failure sudden during oc |
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Feb 9 2006, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(StarNet @ Feb 9 2006, 04:05 PM) fluctuation mod is a mod that basicly made the vcore STABLE .... yup, this is true. my icute blow oso. lucky me, onli the +12v rails. got burn on the mobo +12v ATX connector. Lucky my mobo survived. it shorten da fluctuation range .... thus maintaining stable vcore to ur processor .... ok RM 45 psu .... it's sure doing fine .... but .... once it blows.... bye bye to ur rig this is for real... last time i dun believe it ... until my fren's mobo fried... graphic card kong etc becoz of psu failure sudden during oc |
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Feb 9 2006, 05:26 PM
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show me how to do Fluctuation mod!
BTW: using the psu for 5 years already!  This post has been edited by Mr_47: Feb 9 2006, 05:31 PM |
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Feb 9 2006, 06:55 PM
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cool....
hehehe.... 5 years ehh !! i have changed to a few PSU in 5 years hehe |
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Feb 9 2006, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Feb 9 2006, 12:16 AM) What Vdimm BIOS mod? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35875i manage to get 2.93vdimm when i set 2.6v in bios at first. but once i change the vdimm again, the trick is unsuccesful. |
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Feb 9 2006, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Feb 9 2006, 06:26 PM) show me how to do Fluctuation mod! omg solarmax.... i aso owned this psu .... da rails are strong ... but very very light only da weight BTW: using the psu for 5 years already! den i scare..... changed to enlight btw... i dun think da psu is 450w.... |
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Feb 9 2006, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(StarNet @ Feb 9 2006, 07:38 PM) omg solarmax.... i aso owned this psu .... da rails are strong ... but very very light only da weight its cool anyway! den i scare..... changed to enlight btw... i dun think da psu is 450w....stable like a BMW,,,,,,,,, maybe im lucky! |
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Feb 10 2006, 10:18 AM
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hehe...
maybe shud experiment on i cute psu's what do u think of the Icute Twin Fan ?? the blue color one... hehe.... any comments on that PSU ? |
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Feb 10 2006, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(zahri @ Feb 10 2006, 10:18 AM) hehe... i used to have those twin fan 450w. after 6 month, burned on +12v. lucky my mobo survived. after dat, i dun dare to "touch" another icute. maybe shud experiment on i cute psu's what do u think of the Icute Twin Fan ?? the blue color one... hehe.... any comments on that PSU ? |
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Feb 10 2006, 02:13 PM
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woah....
really ahh they burn ?? i'm thinking of getting that... hehe.... try those chapalang one's first..... if they survive like mr_47's then use until they are able too... hehe... currently i have the CM 450-aclx RM 245 Powerlogic Atrix 500 RM 199 herm..... any comments on the above PSU ? |
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