No. Dead wrong. From a doctor and a bodybuilder's point of view you are dead wrong. You cannot out train a bad diet. Period.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Nov 26 2011, 01:18 AM

Well maybe i m wrong or should i say 'proper diet' instead?

shifus. im 169cm with i think almost 80kg.. i need to lose weight for better future... stop dinner after 6pm.. and lunch (around 12pm-1pm) i eat simple fried rice because of my internship..(suggest me some food for lunch) and im rarely taking breakfast since 16y o..now im 21.. but sometimes i take breakfst.. once a month i think.. depends...

no rice anymore since 2 days ago..

now i want to start jogging on weekend only.. should i get fat burner? before im going to cardio/jogging? is it really effect with or without fat burner?

How does using "proper diet" justify your claim? The statement remains, You cannot out train a bad diet. Period.

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Added on November 29, 2011, 8:45 amfirst off, have your dinner. have supper as well. The idea here is too cut down your meal portions from each meal and spread it out to every 2-3 hours per meal I know it will be a bit hard on your time and you would probably have trouble adjusting to the frequency of eating, but do try to adapt to i. And breakfast is a very important meal, have your breakfast, you would probably say you don't feel like eating in the morning, so probably, a slice of whole wheat bread and 2 eggs plus milk/fruit juice.

eat your rice, but have portion control.

Starting jogging is good, try not to just limit them to weekends but every other day. If you have time, 20 minutes every day would be good. No you should not get fat burner. You should focus on your diet and your cardiovascular activity before considering a fat burner. However, yes, fat burners do affect weight loss but it is not the key to weight loss, but your diet is.

lastly, if you notice, I keep stressing the importance of your diet. So focus on that and you will achieve what you want.

This post has been edited by razorboy: Nov 29 2011, 08:45 AM

i had my dinner before 6pm.. maybe i will buy some fruit to eat for supper (my friend told this)

okay.. i got my internship on weekdays... 8am from home till 7pm back to home.. never jogging in the night.. maybe after internship i will start jogging in the morning for half an hour... just another 2weeks more...

thanks bro.. if got any advice please do share.. looking forward

let me quote myself from bb section, don't take it the wrong way, the caps are just me emphasizing the words

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Added on November 29, 2011, 9:51 amThis post has been edited by razorboy: Nov 29 2011, 09:51 AM

OMG !! Why everytime people is getting the wrong idea for diet .

Diet = Is not about eating less but eating the right stuff.


Die la for me , last time lost weight liao slack slack become fat back

just a question, is it true by eating only steamed rice and a little meat, will lose lots of weight? my bf's mum tried that few yrs back and it worked on her. but only steamed rice? kinda felt like trying it out but contemplating cuz i love food. thats why my diet plans never seem to work -___- hmm any advise?

Your problem isn't the type of diet. It's the discipline to change your diet.

eat less steamed rice. you should take high amounts of carbohydrates. Maybe some vegetables and meat will be good

alrighty. thank you

no , rice = carbs

meat (steamed/grill) + veggie = good

But of cos you need to watch the amount of food you eat

Have anyone heard of S-Recipe? I wish to have a try, hope to get some feedback from others, wanted to be slim before my wedding!

may i know what is that?

i know all recipe

a-recipe
b-recipe
c-recipe
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z-recipe

just kidding.

a good diet consist all the macronutrient without eliminating any of the macro. and it should be healthy with enough vitamins and minerals

secret recipe? XD

Can i get a PM too.

A little about me.

Age: <25
Weight: 99.99kg? Should be very near to 100kg, quite awhile since I measured.
Height: 17xcm

Last known Fat%: 30.1%
Last known Fat Mass: 28.9kg
Last known BMI: 30.3
Last known FFM (what is this??): 67.0kg
Last known TBW (huh????): 49.0kg

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A little more info: (I always order air suam, will only have soft drinks once every 1-2weeks. Isotonik drinks only on sports day, but most of the time, still plain water, cause I kedekut )

I eat a lot during breakfast (8.00am) - I will have one of the following for a week, and switch, to keep it fun and freshand fresh
a) Wholemeal bread x3, sunny side up (no oil) x1, Ham (fried with 2 drops of olive oil), tomato, purple cabbage, cucumber. Grind black pepper and Lea Perrins to taste
b) Cereal + Full Cream Milk (don't like how low fat taste) + crushed nuts (cashew/almond) + sometimes raisin/banana
c) Nasi lemak/fried rice/mee + egg
d) 2 Half-boil egg (but i always end up around 3/4 done), will usually have a milo/coffee here.

9-10am:
Black coffee + 1 sachet of sugar, trying to reduce it to half.

Lunch:
Wherever my boss/colleague goes. I try to keep at least 1 spoon of rice left on the plate initially, now I consume 3/4 total rice, target is 1/2.
Fruits on the way back. Guava/Pineapple (Will usually buy 2, one eat now, the other eat around 3pm.)

Dinner:
Reduce rice, increase meat and vege.

Supper:
Biscuit/Banana/Yogurt/Almonds/Peanut butter on 1 pcs wholemeal


This is more or less how my diet is.
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After viewing my intake, this is the movement part:

My division is located on 1st floor, so stairs it is.

When on the phone, instead of talking at the corridor, I do it at the stairs, going up, cause I won't notice the difficulty while on the phone, when I take notice, I am going down, so its a piece of cake.

Basketball once a week, max 3 times a week. Trying to get Badminton kaki now, so I can have at least 1 day BB 1 day Badminton

Stopped doing sit-up because read somewhere, if obese people do, might injure back cause instead of using ab, we are using some other muscle etc etc. And I feel like I am doing it wrong, so better safe then sorry.

Do some light weight for 5-15min every night, starting yesterday . (this happens around 12am, then by 12.30 will bath and then sleep)

I live in 13th floor, previously will climb the stairs with my laptop backpack, about 2-3 times a week. But recently, my knee is aching, especially for 1-3days after basketball, where going up my office proves to be difficult as well.

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Planning to buy
1) Calcium + magnesium for my legs (a lot of people said my knee/ankle pain is normal for obese people & this is the best/cheap fix)
2) Fish oil
3) Vitamin C
4) Wondering should I buy Protein if I'm going to up my weight session. But doing that before sleep, feel like not good. Or should I just take egg? Hard-boiled?

This post has been edited by NoiZy: Dec 5 2011, 03:58 PM

Is it the S-Mocha slimming coffee ar ?

I have a question
I use to be 100 over Kgs, now I'm only 60
I run 30 mins everyday at 12-14kmh at gym and some weight lifting, a lot of abs exercise, have a discipline diet.
My question is, if I have loose skin, what can I do about it.
The abs exercise actually help reducing a lot of them but so far after 3 years, there's still a little loose which I think exercising and diet no longer helps. Any solution to this, been trying those cream but it doesn't help.

anyone had any idea how much calories lost for a 70kg, 166 cm male running for an hour @ 9kmh?