that's what I thought also ... but the truth is void ray quite powerful vs land unit lar ... the void ray charge when my hydra busy targeting the collosus.

you might say why don't you go for muta? but from my experience, if they scout it, they will switch to stalker + some phoenix ... which also fry muta very good. muta cost quite many gas, it's hard to rebuild if they wipe out my muta ...

he's american according to the IEM player profile =p

IdrA is American. Please stop making silly comparisons, instead of debating which tier 1 unit combo is better how about we get serious and start discussing about strategy instead?

hmm i further dug the liquipedia, ya woh. how the hell i remembered him as british? XD

maybe mixed up with someone else (who else is british amongst the top players? lol)

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Added on August 25, 2010, 5:37 pmpretty sure silly comparisons are still valid strategy discussions.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 25 2010, 05:37 PM

just because some pro players lose using Zerg, then suddenly everyone conclude Zerg is the weakest race in the universe.

I'm still quite enjoy using Zerg no matter it wins or lose in any competition, since myself is just a casual player. I'm not saying the game is perfectly balance, but Zerg wasn't that weak as most other ppl see it.

If you think reapers are flawless, then why don't you start to use Terran and kick Zerg player's ass (such as me) using reapers? Then you will enjoy the fruit of victory.

u gotta accept the way reapers are being played to come up with a strategy over it...
assuming the 5 rax reaper style, ntg much u can do unless u can get a surround before the critical mass...
else, stick to 1 base roach like idra vs tarson semis but that is very very close as well relying ur opponent to mis-micro...
and 5 tech rax would get marauders out pretty fast for ur roaches...

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Added on August 25, 2010, 5:43 pmeven morrow aka winner of IEM 2010 agreed that reaper opening are just too strong on zerg...
and i cant think of a way to overcome it unless the terran make a mismicro...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 25 2010, 05:43 PM

LOLOLOLOLOL NOT ONLY ME!! SEE the quote below!!

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YES!! Reapers RAPE everyone YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

see morrow made a couple of mis micro (as with idra, i guess. maybe too ragey), but shit means nothing when he got his production lead, resource lead, and what not lol.

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Added on August 25, 2010, 6:03 pmreapers are almost, if not already "boku" status YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 25 2010, 06:03 PM

lol 'boku'................. hahahaha ~ don't watch boku niggas~

this tered is heating up YOOOOO ~

If I'm not wrong, the semifinal match of DiMaGa vs morrow, morrow's reaper micro isn't as good as his final matches against IdrA as you can see that DiMaGa can counter the reaper rush easily with zerglings.

And before the finals match, DiMaGa told morrow that his reaper micro is not that good and trained him for 2 hours upon his micro. That's why you see morrow does not have any difficulty playing reaper rush against IdrA.

Estimation of the unit count for the final match - (The actual unit count is around there)
20 zerglings vs 6 reapers - 6 reapers wins with just 1-2 reaper lost.

@ReWeR : A few reapers don't bring much trait to Zerg when terran usually use them just to harass the zerg's mineral line. But when a terran mass reapers just to finish you off your units/base, I don't think you stand any chance to pull it off. Even if you play safe being just 1 Base and manage to stop the reaper rush, the terran would most probably had expo done already. And when zerg's eco is lower than his opponent, it's a instant result of telling you that you'll lose, or maybe just with the low chance of winning the game.

i wonder who else over here understood this. wwwwwwwwwwwwww

yesss! i managed to flame everyone into making this issue hot!!

not really.

there's a fine line between discussion and a flamewar...
no name calling to date lol...

Sigh watching zerg lost terribly to terran makes me wanna play terran badly...

but NOOOOO!!!

My life is for the SWARM YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

just kiddin..

i hv to study again on the issue..

i play zerg for the fun of it. most of my victories are from zerg so yeah, i like. suits my style.

anyone knows how to shoot and stop , shoot and stop like we see in Replays ?

Zerg's should try using this strat more ....


This post has been edited by Laguna: Aug 25 2010, 07:27 PM