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post Aug 25 2010, 05:06 PM

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post Aug 25 2010, 05:06 PM

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the last person who did reaper rush on me was also having marines at his base.

i lost my drones, he lost his entire base. tongue.gif
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post Aug 25 2010, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Aug 25 2010, 05:00 PM)
you're contradicting yourself here.
reapers = imba early game
zerg = strong early game

what?
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my point is reapers are conditional and need good skill player. if it is that good, all Terran players sure produce reapers most the game already.

as a Zerg player, I'm not scare of other races during early game, except another Zerg player.

Want to swarm me with tier 1 units? Let's see my zerglings better or your marines/zealots better.

Want to go for reapers? then your base is quite open and I might tech to hydra waiting for you, or I even do a 10 pool rush. My opponent need to gather quite some gas b4 reapers can come out ... unless he's a very good defense player, else my speedlings already swarm to his base and surround his barrack.
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 25 2010, 05:07 PM)
my point is reapers are conditional and need good skill player. if it is that good, all Terran players sure produce reapers most the game already.

as a Zerg player, I'm not scare of other races during early game, except another Zerg player.

Want to swarm me with tier 1 units? Let's see my zerglings better or your marines/zealots better.

Want to go for reapers? then your base is quite open and I might tech to hydra waiting for you, or I even do a 10 pool rush. My opponent need to gather quite some gas b4 reapers can come out ... unless he's a very good defense player, else my speedlings already swarm to his base and surround his barrack.
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and also bust the walls with banelings.. rclxms.gif
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post Aug 25 2010, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 25 2010, 05:07 PM)
my point is reapers are conditional and need good skill player. if it is that good, all Terran players sure produce reapers most the game already.

as a Zerg player, I'm not scare of other races during early game, except another Zerg player.

Want to swarm me with tier 1 units? Let's see my zerglings better or your marines/zealots better.

Want to go for reapers? then your base is quite open and I might tech to hydra waiting for you, or I even do a 10 pool rush. My opponent need to gather quite some gas b4 reapers can come out ... unless he's a very good defense player, else my speedlings already swarm to his base and surround his barrack.
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just need 100 gas..50 for lab and 50 for reapers to come out 1..biggrin.gif
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post Aug 25 2010, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 25 2010, 05:07 PM)
my point is reapers are conditional and need good skill player. if it is that good, all Terran players sure produce reapers most the game already.

as a Zerg player, I'm not scare of other races during early game, except another Zerg player.

Want to swarm me with tier 1 units? Let's see my zerglings better or your marines/zealots better.

Want to go for reapers? then your base is quite open and I might tech to hydra waiting for you, or I even do a 10 pool rush. My opponent need to gather quite some gas b4 reapers can come out ... unless he's a very good defense player, else my speedlings already swarm to his base and surround his barrack.
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At mid diamond level 600+, terran players don't make too many silly mistakes and you can get as many speedlings as you want but once his army comes out, you are utterly screwed.
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post Aug 25 2010, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 25 2010, 05:07 PM)
my point is reapers are conditional and need good skill player. if it is that good, all Terran players sure produce reapers most the game already.

as a Zerg player, I'm not scare of other races during early game, except another Zerg player.

Want to swarm me with tier 1 units? Let's see my zerglings better or your marines/zealots better.

Want to go for reapers? then your base is quite open and I might tech to hydra waiting for you, or I even do a 10 pool rush. My opponent need to gather quite some gas b4 reapers can come out ... unless he's a very good defense player, else my speedlings already swarm to his base and surround his barrack.
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reapers opening are really really really fast...
it dun follow the conventional 9supply opening for terrans...

usually reapers would be out hitting u crazy before u can even start ur roach tech wut more hydras...
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post Aug 25 2010, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 25 2010, 05:07 PM)
my point is reapers are conditional and need good skill player. if it is that good, all Terran players sure produce reapers most the game already.

as a Zerg player, I'm not scare of other races during early game, except another Zerg player.

Want to swarm me with tier 1 units? Let's see my zerglings better or your marines/zealots better.

Want to go for reapers? then your base is quite open and I might tech to hydra waiting for you, or I even do a 10 pool rush. My opponent need to gather quite some gas b4 reapers can come out ... unless he's a very good defense player, else my speedlings already swarm to his base and surround his barrack.
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How to do that when they have choked the ramp? Any way with that? I find it very hard because everytime when a T player goes for Reapers, he blocks his choke with 2 SD and a rax. 10 pool rush also can't break through and if I rush with a 10 pool rush, then economy will be slow n when reapers come, it gets even worse sad.gif
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post Aug 25 2010, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 25 2010, 04:57 PM)
That's because he's a good skill player and reaper is imba. Reaper are scary once they sneak into your mineral line ... coz they can tore down crawler very fast, if they target your drone and hatchery ... then you are gone as well.
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However, I'm talking about generally Zerg in early game. If my opponent go reaper, means he have to sacrifice his marine and marauder, which make me have certain advantage as well.
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thats the thing, hes using reapers TO RAPE THE QUEEN, RAPE THE ROACH, RAPE THE DAMN BASE EVERYTHING.

not just the mineral line, YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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this just the reapers harass phase.
We haven't even go through the 'Bio ball is rollin' phase yet.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 25 2010, 05:14 PM)
thats the thing, hes using reapers TO RAPE THE QUEEN, RAPE THE ROACH, RAPE THE DAMN BASE EVERYTHING.

not just the mineral line, YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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tell that to tarson, he lost 10 reapers LOL

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 25 2010, 05:05 PM)
the new terran style of reaper play DO NOT go for ur mineral line...
it go after ur queen and ur units wearing u down while he pump more reapers with nitro upgrade on the way...
once the critical number is reached, he can 1 shot almost anything while micro-ing it away from damage...

the reaper is for containment, not harassment (well it does harass ur queen and ur army LOL)...

unless u are tarson that used his reaper to harass the mineral line and got wtfbbqpwned losing 10 reapers in the process, that's nt the way to utilize reapers...
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it is. cept in pro play, things change. and tarson, lets just say he got outplayed. lol
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post Aug 25 2010, 05:17 PM

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lol..i smell a flame/fight...
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Aug 25 2010, 05:14 PM)
this just the reapers harass phase.
We haven't even go through the 'Bio ball is rollin' phase yet.
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dont even have to go through that phase. 5 tech lab rax spamming reapers like theres no tomorrow. wtf is this i dont even
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post Aug 25 2010, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 25 2010, 05:17 PM)
it is. cept in pro play, things change. and tarson, lets just say he got outplayed. lol
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its more to a bad decision...
if he were to just keep the containment going instead of trying to get the drones, he would be in a much better shape...
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 25 2010, 05:05 PM)
the new terran style of reaper play DO NOT go for ur mineral line...
it go after ur queen and ur units wearing u down while he pump more reapers with nitro upgrade on the way...
once the critical number is reached, he can 1 shot almost anything while micro-ing it away from damage...

the reaper is for containment, not harassment (well it does harass ur queen and ur army LOL)...

unless u are tarson that used his reaper to harass the mineral line and got wtfbbqpwned losing 10 reapers in the process, that's nt the way to utilize reapers...
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I'm not saying reapers are not annoying ... but still nothing compare to late game units of toss and terran.

once my hydra army was wipe out by the collosus + void ray + a few stalker or something.

resource wise, I think we are equal, and suppose hydra should kick air units ass right? well ... it's wrong ... the void ray fry my hydra like some pan cakes.

so after that, I find reapers aren't that scary after all. tongue.gif
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Watch how reapers shred the poor angry american.

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post Aug 25 2010, 05:21 PM

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hydra own void ray(without charge)....
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post Aug 25 2010, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 25 2010, 05:19 PM)
I'm not saying reapers are not annoying ... but still nothing compare to late game units of toss and terran.

once my hydra army was wipe out by the collosus + void ray + a few stalker or something.

resource wise, I think we are equal, and suppose hydra should kick air units ass right? well ... it's wrong ... the void ray fry my hydra like some pan cakes.

so after that, I find reapers aren't that scary after all. tongue.gif
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u should realize 1 thing...
no matter how good ur mid/ late game is, when u are contained and constantly shot at its over for u...
often if u play against pro, they'll go for a early game victory and carry the momentum to the end...


Added on August 25, 2010, 5:23 pm
QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Aug 25 2010, 05:20 PM)

Watch how reapers shred the poor angry american.
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whitebox is how u own poor angry american with reapers



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post Aug 25 2010, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 25 2010, 05:19 PM)
I'm not saying reapers are not annoying ... but still nothing compare to late game units of toss and terran.

once my hydra army was wipe out by the collosus + void ray + a few stalker or something.

resource wise, I think we are equal, and suppose hydra should kick air units ass right? well ... it's wrong ... the void ray fry my hydra like some pan cakes.

so after that, I find reapers aren't that scary after all. tongue.gif
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dont know if you get it, THERE IS NO LATE GAME.

please, watch the game between morrow and idra.

#1 and #2 of the latest intel IEM tournament. first price is 5k USD. total prize pot is 15k usd. definitely not small fry tourney. (korean got told by KESPA, or he may be able to wtfpwn the scene! /QQ)


Added on August 25, 2010, 5:25 pm
QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Aug 25 2010, 05:20 PM)

Watch how reapers shred the poor angry american.
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idra is british yo XD

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