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 The Zerg Strategy v1.0, Cheer for the overmind!

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post Aug 23 2010, 06:16 PM

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vs AI hor, it's a bit annoying when paired with passive partners.

the higher difficulty AI would gang up and whack kau kau one player first. my buddy always bunker up (play Terran only) and tech to BC. so if AI go for him, still got me come to support.

i got AI come ah, then ehhh most of the time bye bye already but since i play zerg, i usually harass AI kau kau but then it could still be problematic since the harder AI know how to get help from the other AI.
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post Aug 23 2010, 06:42 PM

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Found a way to defeat early mass roach rush of AI lol..

1 immortal, a few zealots and maybe 2 stalkers.

But the problem is, teching to immortal means mostly ground army. The AI isnt smart enough to straight tech to mutas.... they will take some time and get hydras first. If real players, i think if they straight muta can own the protoss player. =.="
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post Aug 23 2010, 06:48 PM

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well, if you guys really do like playing against AI...they will mass push ground forces only

and if you knock on their base with a few units, they'll pull back most likely to defend

with that, you can buy some time to probably tech up or recover your losses

if you guys like to engage that early push, then most likely you'll need to have some static defense up and with a reasonable force to deal with that (And also, a wall in)

if you guys would like to play without any cheese...well, constant harassing while it is moving near your base is the next best thing i suppose

cheesing is still the best way to win the AI...no matter which difficulty it is at...=)
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post Aug 23 2010, 07:01 PM

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However, I only recommend you guys to use AI to practice BO.

A sudden switch to muta won't be as easy as you think. Muta + spire requires a lot of time to build and the zerg have to reserve huge amount of gas. If protoss decides to push while you're transitioning then it could be fatal.
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i play VS AI to practice defending, which in the end - yes, BO.

while tactically they're not as cunning as humans, they're still damn efficient at the start and give many human players a hard time.
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post Aug 23 2010, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Aug 23 2010, 07:01 PM)
However, I only recommend you guys to use AI to practice BO.

A sudden switch to muta won't be as easy as you think. Muta + spire requires a lot of time to build and the zerg have to reserve huge amount of gas. If protoss decides to push while you're transitioning then it could be fatal.
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Right, will take note of this. smile.gif
Best way is to scout if hes transitioning... then attack if neccesary.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 23 2010, 07:04 PM)
i play VS AI to practice defending, which in the end - yes, BO.

while tactically they're not as cunning as humans, they're still damn efficient at the start and give many human players a hard time.
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I play with AI not to rush them, but to see how well i can micro against MM Siege tank and Roach + hydra + zergling push. biggrin.gif
Especially burrowing roaches... AI damn efficient at doing that.
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post Aug 24 2010, 09:51 AM

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Dont get too negative about zerg, it's one of the steepest learning curve race compared to others ( well it's just plain different compared to other RTS u played).

I think soon or later you will nail it, if terran is imba it will get balanced soon or later.
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post Aug 24 2010, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Aug 24 2010, 09:51 AM)
Dont get too negative about zerg, it's one of the steepest learning curve race compared to others ( well it's just plain different compared to other RTS u played).

I think soon or later you will nail it, if terran is imba it will get balanced soon or later.
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its ok, zherk quin is moe. i will love zherk cuz of that.
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post Aug 24 2010, 10:02 AM

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Zerg is still my best race of all.. I am so hopeless when I use terran... Protoss once transition into higher tier I am lost too
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post Aug 24 2010, 03:36 PM

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Great news everyone! We do not have to be afraid of Terran Mech anymore!

Introducing, the magic box!


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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Aug 24 2010, 03:36 PM)
Great news everyone! We do not have to be afraid of Terran Mech anymore!

Introducing, the magic box!

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putting on first page, and no, terran mech would still be devastating against any zerg
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post Aug 24 2010, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 24 2010, 03:41 PM)
putting on first page, and no, terran mech would still be devastating against any zerg
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this only work if the terran does not have any support for thors or poor thor placement (tarson in the IEM semis vs idra)...
koreans have long discovered this and korean terrans usually support their thors with tonnes of marine (marine/thor compo)...
so u gotta go the mutaling strategy or like wut dimaga does, baneling/zergling -> infestors -> ultras and using all 3 of em...

the recent reaper opening wont even give u time to tech to mutas usually lol...
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post Aug 24 2010, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Aug 24 2010, 03:36 PM)
Great news everyone! We do not have to be afraid of Terran Mech anymore!

Introducing, the magic box!

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wow..
good tips there..

thor will run like rat after this..
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post Aug 24 2010, 03:57 PM

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i crush terran mech with ling/bling mutas after discovering the magic box. the ones that turtle in 2 bases and just mass mech usually don't stand a chance now. the part where the zerg is still weak against terran is the early mid-ish game if they push hard, but if you survive that with your econ intact and transition to mutas you're in good shape. another problem i'm seeing alot more lately is the pure reaper build, everyone trying the gay strat morrow used at IEM and it's really hard to deal with if they have good micro cause they can even kill your roaches which is supposed to counter reapers.
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post Aug 24 2010, 04:02 PM

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erm... anyone know if spine crawler can fit in an overlord or nydus?
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lol I didn't say the video is gonna resolve ALL your imbalance concerns.

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post Aug 24 2010, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(sixseven @ Aug 24 2010, 04:02 PM)
erm... anyone know if spine crawler can fit in an overlord or nydus?
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hahhaa, good question..
never tried that before..
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post Aug 24 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(rockets @ Aug 24 2010, 03:57 PM)
i crush terran mech with ling/bling mutas after discovering the magic box. the ones that turtle in 2 bases and just mass mech usually don't stand a chance now. the part where the zerg is still weak against terran is the early mid-ish game if they push hard, but if you survive that with your econ intact and transition to mutas you're in good shape. another problem i'm seeing alot more lately is the pure reaper build, everyone trying the gay strat morrow used at IEM and it's really hard to deal with if they have good micro cause they can even kill your roaches which is supposed to counter reapers.
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u need roach speed/ good creep spread
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 24 2010, 04:11 PM)
u need roach speed/ good creep spread
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yea, but you need lair and the research takes quite a while. reapers comes really really early and once they have like 6 it starts to really hurt. and there's no chance for me to hold my expo if they go reapers.

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