Nah, it has every other units surrounding it so it might even be drones or hydra

Doesn't roach spam hurts your tech and will be screwed when the opponent rushes for air after seing ur roaches?

ah for grid, quite true. then shouldnt non grid have less problems?

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Added on October 21, 2010, 8:21 pmdoesnt matter when your opponent says gg before he gets air out loololololololol (or get pressured so much air is impossible)

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 21 2010, 08:21 PM

So its kinda cheesy now right?

can be perfectly thwarted by anti roach units. toss just needs to pure stalker mix immortal, terran spam rauders, etc. however, its still an uphill fight cuz roaches are cheap (i mean unit cost, but yeah that too www) and the +1 range makes things like marines/zealots/lings almost completely useless

Don't Marauders own Roaches for cost? (not to mention stim, which is auto-win in many cases).

roaches are 75/25 with a decent regen...
you can kinda outmass them and transition into muta accordingly...
and with the creep advantage its even better =p

Not to mention its harder to kite roaches after its range buff

This post has been edited by Moonflown: Oct 22 2010, 12:05 PM

Also worth noting that they can be produced in groups of 3 to 6 in one go

imagine 3-5 bases with stockpiled larvae. gee-gee.

impossible when u have the speed upgrade (which u should always take)...
the speed upgrade to me is like the 2nd best upgrade after speedling...

Tried roach spam on 2v2


Got my team face rolled

Also samwise is now a fan


This post has been edited by bobohead1988: Oct 22 2010, 10:51 PM

i prefer early zergling and roach mix. i also plant some spine crawlers if the enemy's a zerg in the beginning. bad thing is that you have to mass-plant it altogether or it will fall apart pretty easily and you need to have good teamwork. however, if you do, you can wipe that player's multi possibility and keep the pressure on for the entire duration unless you don't destroy them b4 they make up enough roaches+zergling/baneling method. if you are playing a match where the teammate's base is close to one another, you can make a nydus worm at the spine crawler nest and supply units quickly from there. it does work, and shouldn't be easy for the enemy to destroy the base as it SHOULD be crawling with bunch of spine crawlers and ur reinforcement.

imho, the CORE unit for zvz would be hydra...
but still...roach opening is pretty good against banelings...
they are 1 bloody hell of a tanker...lolz

and spine crawlers are not good against mass lings...
js get 1 or 2 to scare off your opponent...lol

btw tlo announced that he has swapped to zerg as his main this morning (heosat confirmed it)...

That was shocking..

fotm-er

i feel tat recently there's a lot of ppl playin zerg nw...as in SEA server...
being facing quite a number of zvz recently...

last time, oni can find 1 zvz in around 10 games =.="

hahaa yeah..

so far in my ZvZ, the team who goes muta 1st will win..

Muta + banelings pawns hydra + roaches easily..

Muta surely is one of the best ways to kill off annoying roaches who can easily melt your cute banelings... Well, that build is totally not suggested when it comes to vT though. Mass marines can have a muta-bbq if they bump into a muta group. Be careful about that. Roaches ftw when it comes to terran! Careful for roadblock+tank combo though...