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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V23, It has come!Bulldozer heat is around us.

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clon12
post Jul 8 2010, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 8 2010, 04:37 PM)
Before making any voltage increment, you can always check what is on the edge and lower down the divider.

It is not always to play w voltage.
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divider or multiplier? I can't really get the full meaning of your sentence though yawn.gif

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jul 8 2010, 04:43 PM)
bro, old stuff not out, new stuff wont in... let him burn d deneb so that he can have new x6...  laugh.gif
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That OLD stuff is somehow just 4 days old biggrin.gif
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post Jul 9 2010, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jul 8 2010, 04:43 PM)
just asked my fren tried lastnite, tFAW = 30 gave instant reboot...  sweat.gif
nice freq on ram, clock wise can be slightly better?  hmm.gif

what will happen if > 260MHz on htt? instant reboot/bootable but fail in prime?  blink.gif 
it can boot , but become very unstable even i increase d Vcore

now changinng to
9x
3x

running wif 290mhz wif vcore 1.45v

the freq of the ram lowered to 667mhz and oc until 872mhz

wif the timing of 4-4-4-16-24

currently stable wif this setting smile.gif
will try to increase the clock again, icon_rolleyes.gif
but duno got big differnce wif the previous one or not rclxub.gif

the maximum temp for the 3800 should be 69's is it?

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post Jul 9 2010, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(clon12 @ Jul 8 2010, 08:04 PM)
divider or multiplier? I can't really get the full meaning of your sentence though yawn.gif
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haha, don't care is divider or multiplier, their result will be the same.
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post Jul 9 2010, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Jul 9 2010, 02:16 AM)
haha, don't care is divider or multiplier, their result will be the same.
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i not sure what comment is this.. not helping any..

multiplier often referred to cpu multiply to fsb.. to get cpu speed..
divider normally is for fsb:ram bus ratio..

let's think of this normal circumstances.. the ratio would be..
1:2 where 200:400
200 = cpu fsb
400 = ram <-- this is where the ram can achieve 800mhz becoz of ddr u need to multiply to 2..

what if we raise the fsb to 290 by using that ratio (DIVIDER)?
it can be..
(290 x 2)/1 = 580 thus 1160mhz.. can ur ram withstand this condition?

so lower that ratio might HELP.. shall i calculate..
200:333
what the hell is this.. how i calculate my ram if i were to raised my fsb..
200:333 is equal to 3/5 how?

200/333 ~ 0.6 = 6/10 = 3/5 = 3:5

so if the fsb is 250 the ram speed would be
(250 x 5)/3 = 417 ~ 833mhz..

and not only that.. u need to play with the voltage and the advance timings..
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post Jul 9 2010, 10:50 AM

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guys

A-Data With heat Sink DDR3-1600 - RM229

from cycom pricelist is what model eh? value line of A data or what?
currently looking for ram.. but max budget is only RM320..
looking either 2gb kit or 2gb single stick.. what u all might recommend?
kvr i pass..
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post Jul 9 2010, 10:52 AM

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why need that HP ram if expensive?
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post Jul 9 2010, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 9 2010, 10:52 AM)
why need that HP ram if expensive?
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since i asking in OC tered..that is y..
kvr performance in quite known edi...
wud like to try other ram.. must not be Hp only..but not KVR la..kekeke

with limited budget, that is y im not aiming for any 4gb kit..kekeke..

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post Jul 9 2010, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 9 2010, 10:57 AM)
since i asking in OC tered..that is y..
kvr performance in quite known edi...
wud like to try other ram.. must not be Hp only..but not KVR la..kekeke

with limited budget, that is y im not aiming for any 4gb kit..kekeke..

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Hahahaha like that meh? Like to collect same spec PC meh? Mau bukak CC ka? tongue.gif
How about trying Gskill Value RAM, only RM164 = 2GB, last time bro 8tvt try oc can go up to 1600mhz no prob hmm.gif
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post Jul 9 2010, 11:17 AM

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actually 1700mhz.. but not tighten it up..
i just thinking the high bandwidth ram in amd system is not helping much either.. more or less.. pay for a useless cause..
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 9 2010, 11:13 AM)
Hahahaha like that meh? Like to collect same spec PC meh? Mau bukak CC ka? tongue.gif
How about trying Gskill Value RAM, only RM164 = 2GB, last time bro 8tvt try oc can go up to 1600mhz no prob hmm.gif
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older PC gave to adek already.. (its a waste since he play Sims / Cs / RA and few other old games..
and current PC will be assigned to torrent after this..
so i need another 1.. thinking of the money involve is not so much for those sempron..so ok la..that mobo also temporary only.. later if stable financially will upgrade..

how about team elite? gskill value what ramchip eh bro 8tvt? hope not relabeled.
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gskill not stated any.. i think relabeled.. just noticed D3 in the glance..
and again it's small chip.. might be good on temp also..
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QUOTE(clon12 @ Jul 8 2010, 08:04 PM)
divider or multiplier? I can't really get the full meaning of your sentence though yawn.gif
That OLD stuff is somehow just 4 days old biggrin.gif
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meanin it's not necessary that d instability is caused by lack of vcore, it could be ram/nb freq or even temp issue. addin juice is just one of d options. but if u leave everything @ stock (meanin u only play w/ cpu multi), then it's pretty obvious that it's vcore/temp(if load temp is kinda high) related. smile.gif

QUOTE(blue16 @ Jul 9 2010, 02:16 AM)
it can boot , but become very unstable even i increase d Vcore

now changinng to
9x
3x

running wif 290mhz wif vcore 1.45v

the freq of the ram lowered to 667mhz and oc until 872mhz

wif the timing of 4-4-4-16-24

currently stable wif this setting smile.gif
will try to increase the clock again,  icon_rolleyes.gif
but duno got big differnce wif the previous one or not  rclxub.gif

the maximum temp for the 3800 should be 69's is it?
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windsy f2 aint really a clocker, i've tried few, most topped @ 2.5~2.6GHz only. u got a nice pair of ram there bro... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Jul 9 2010, 02:16 AM)
haha, don't care is divider or multiplier, their result will be the same.
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it depends, if oc is just about pumpin multi & reducin divider, u'll missed out lotsa fun... wink.gif

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OC is about FSB cranking man, not multiplier tongue.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jul 9 2010, 11:28 AM)
OC is about FSB cranking man, not multiplier tongue.gif
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Depends on what u wanna oc, i would say it's more of a mix with newer cpu's hmm.gif
Sometimes playing with the FSB plus multi will get u better milage compared with just playing the multi or FSB alone smile.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 9 2010, 11:35 AM)
Depends on what u wanna oc, i would say it's more of a mix with newer cpu's hmm.gif
Sometimes playing with the FSB plus multi will get u better milage compared with just playing the multi or FSB alone smile.gif
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true.. every chips not equal..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 9 2010, 10:36 AM)
i not sure what comment is this.. not helping any..

multiplier often referred to cpu multiply to fsb.. to get cpu speed..
divider normally is for fsb:ram bus ratio..

let's think of this normal circumstances.. the ratio would be..
1:2 where 200:400
200 = cpu fsb
400 = ram <-- this is where the ram can achieve 800mhz becoz of ddr u need to multiply to 2..

what if we raise the fsb to 290 by using that ratio (DIVIDER)?
it can be..
(290 x 2)/1 = 580 thus 1160mhz.. can ur ram withstand this condition?

so lower that ratio might HELP.. shall i calculate..
200:333
what the hell is this.. how i calculate my ram if i were to raised my fsb..
200:333 is equal to 3/5 how?

200/333 ~ 0.6 = 6/10 = 3/5 = 3:5

so if the fsb is 250 the ram speed would be
(250 x 5)/3 = 417 ~ 833mhz..

and not only that.. u need to play with the voltage and the advance timings..
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sorry bro. notworthy.gif

i just mean no need care about the motherboard is using multiplier concept or divider concept.
although their implementation are different, but they will give same result.

just like:
base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock
200 x 2 = 400mhz

base clock / dram divider = dram clock
200 / (1/2) = 400mhz

and the multiplier or divider, usually will be in ratio form, that is:
base clock : dram clock = 1:2
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Jul 9 2010, 11:55 AM)
sorry bro.  notworthy.gif

i just mean no need care about the motherboard is using multiplier concept or divider concept.
although their implementation are different, but they will give same result.

just like:
base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock
200 x 2 = 400mhz

base clock / dram divider = dram clock
200 / (1/2) = 400mhz

and the multiplier or divider, usually will be in ratio form, that is:
base clock : dram clock = 1:2
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no offence..

i donno where u get that ram multiplier..
what about other ratio?

i'm sure it's derived from the fsb:ram ratio..
it's actually 1:2 not just multiply by 2.. just that the answer is correct because it was divided by 1..

normally we refer the multiplier to the cpu..
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jul 9 2010, 11:28 AM)
OC is about FSB cranking man, not multiplier tongue.gif
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this is so old skool bro... trend has changed now... tongue.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 9 2010, 11:35 AM)
Depends on what u wanna oc, i would say it's more of a mix with newer cpu's hmm.gif
Sometimes playing with the FSB plus multi will get u better milage compared with just playing the multi or FSB alone smile.gif
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yalor... but easier for be chips w/ unlocked multi... those w/ locked multi have less options... especially when it comes to findin sweet spot for ram + clock speed + nb freq... not everbody as lucky as u bro... cry.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jul 9 2010, 12:24 PM)
this is so old skool bro... trend has changed now...  tongue.gif
yalor... but easier for be chips w/ unlocked multi... those w/ locked multi have less options... especially when it comes to findin sweet spot for ram + clock speed + nb freq... not everbody as lucky as u bro...  cry.gif
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Me lucky? If i'm lucky i would be using the X6 1090T already lor cry.gif cry.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 9 2010, 12:14 PM)
no offence..

i donno where u get that ram multiplier..
what about other ratio?

i'm sure it's derived from the fsb:ram ratio..
it's actually 1:2 not just multiply by 2.. just that the answer is correct because it was divided by 1..

normally we refer the multiplier to the cpu..
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newer amd phenom architecture using dram multilplier.
older amd athlon architecture using dram divider.

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