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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V23, It has come!Bulldozer heat is around us.

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post Jul 9 2010, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 9 2010, 10:57 AM)
since i asking in OC tered..that is y..
kvr performance in quite known edi...
wud like to try other ram.. must not be Hp only..but not KVR la..kekeke

with limited budget, that is y im not aiming for any 4gb kit..kekeke..

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i got a perfect solution for u bro, poison bro cloudwan to buy new performance ram, then ask him to sell u his kvr... voila... problem solved... tongue.gif

if u insist on non kvr, here is a mild poison (team elite 1600) for u...

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 9 2010, 12:28 PM)
Me lucky? If i'm lucky i would be using the X6 1090T already lor :/cry: :/cry:  :/sweat:
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955be chip + rog EVO still not enuf meh bro, all u need is another pair of dom gt which capable of ~1800 @ cas 6. brows.gif

my usin super laoya g1 4400+ & 690g oso consider myself very lucky ledi... laugh.gif blush.gif

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post Jul 9 2010, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 9 2010, 10:36 AM)
i not sure what comment is this.. not helping any..

multiplier often referred to cpu multiply to fsb.. to get cpu speed..
divider normally is for fsb:ram bus ratio..

let's think of this normal circumstances.. the ratio would be..
1:2 where 200:400
200 = cpu fsb
400 = ram <-- this is where the ram can achieve 800mhz becoz of ddr u need to multiply to 2..

what if we raise the fsb to 290 by using that ratio (DIVIDER)?
it can be..
(290 x 2)/1 = 580 thus 1160mhz.. can ur ram withstand this condition?

so lower that ratio might HELP.. shall i calculate..
200:333
what the hell is this.. how i calculate my ram if i were to raised my fsb..
200:333 is equal to 3/5 how?

200/333 ~ 0.6 = 6/10 = 3/5 = 3:5

so if the fsb is 250 the ram speed would be
(250 x 5)/3 = 417 ~ 833mhz..

and not only that.. u need to play with the voltage and the advance timings..
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Oh kay..after seeing your post I have a feeling I should stop increasing my multiplier and thus stop oc..it seems that its not just about increasing multiplier and fbs....(: but 3.6ghz will do! smile.gif
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post Jul 9 2010, 02:33 PM

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don't worry.. oc just for fun not a must..
just that learning in the correct way will yields better result..
after sometimes we know what to understand.. it takes times.. smile.gif
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post Jul 9 2010, 03:08 PM

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Oc is not for fun and it is a must bro. tongue.gif tongue.gif

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post Jul 9 2010, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Jul 9 2010, 12:32 PM)
newer amd phenom architecture using dram multilplier.
older amd athlon architecture using dram divider.
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some board have 1,2,3,4,5,6 or what ever should refer to..
1- 400 (1:1)
2- 667 (3:5)
3- 800 (1:2)
4- 1066 (3:8)
5- 1333 (3:10)
6- 1600 (1:4)

what ever it is... it's still came from that fraction..
1- 1
2- 1.67
3- 2
4- 2.67
5- 3.33
6- 4

crazy jargon same like fsb and htt..
so just multiply that value with fsb will get the ram speed (don't forget to multiply by 2 for ddr)
easier isn't it.. but lost the concept..


Added on July 9, 2010, 3:18 pm
QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 9 2010, 03:08 PM)
Oc is not for fun and it is a must bro. tongue.gif tongue.gif

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for u is the must X6.. if not i baling boom.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jul 9 2010, 11:23 AM)

windsy f2 aint really a clocker, i've tried few, most topped @ 2.5~2.6GHz only. u got a nice pair of ram there bro...  thumbup.gif

http://s.lowyat.net/uploads//attach-21/pos...-1202649083.jpg
thanks man, crucial blisti tracer is nice blush.gif
and too sad that i get F2 blush.gif

however
i'm using 9x now for more OC drool.gif
i think can be + more mhz smile.gif
check this picture and give some advise please,sifus drool.gif drool.gif
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post Jul 9 2010, 04:49 PM

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is 9.5 cannot?
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post Jul 9 2010, 06:30 PM

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I'm aware that I may accidentally goreng my chip if I did something wrong...so I guess I will pass...at least for now tongue.gif
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QUOTE(blue16 @ Jul 9 2010, 04:44 PM)
thanks man, crucial blisti tracer is nice  :/blush:
and too sad that i get F2  :/blush:

however
i'm using 9x now for more OC :/drool:
i think can be + more mhz  :/)
check this picture and give some advise please,sifus  :/drool:  :/drool:
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d9s sure are nice stuff to play w/, 10th anni was d hit back then, few sifus here managed amazin freq @ cas4... salute2... notworthy.gif

i see a dfi board there... brows.gif

ya nb temp seems a bit high, lemme guess... nvidia chipset? sweat.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 9 2010, 04:49 PM)
is 9.5 cannot?
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i'm not so sure half multi still affects ram freq (run @ lower frequency than what bein show on cpu-z), but it has been a habit to avoid half multis since d gud old days of a64. nod.gif

QUOTE(clon12 @ Jul 9 2010, 06:30 PM)
I'm aware that I may accidentally goreng my chip if I did something wrong...so I guess I will pass...at least for now tongue.gif
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consider yaself lucky to fry a chip w/ that kinda volt... tongue.gif

amd chips can take massive amount of volt... ph34r.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=1302592
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jul 9 2010, 07:05 PM)
i'm not so sure half multi still affects ram freq (run @ lower frequency than what bein show on cpu-z), but it has been a habit to avoid half multis since d gud old days of a64.  nod.gif
i'm intended to make the cpu speed much higher..
though the ram speed with such timing already tighten up..
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jul 9 2010, 07:05 PM)
consider yaself lucky to fry a chip w/ that kinda volt...  tongue.gif

amd chips can take massive amount of volt...  ph34r.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=1302592
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I got scared after you said that let me burn my chip >< but i will oc it sooner or later..maybe next week? biggrin.gif

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post Jul 9 2010, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(blue16 @ Jul 9 2010, 04:44 PM)
thanks man, crucial blisti tracer is nice  blush.gif

beware with it.. wink.gif degrade too fast doh.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Jul 9 2010, 08:29 PM)
beware with it.. wink.gif degrade too fast doh.gif
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Ram master do the talking~ biggrin.gif

Already jump into DDR3 dude? wub.gif

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post Jul 10 2010, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 9 2010, 03:18 PM)
some board have 1,2,3,4,5,6 or what ever should refer to..
1- 400 (1:1)
2- 667 (3:5)
3- 800 (1:2)
4- 1066 (3:8)
5- 1333 (3:10)
6- 1600 (1:4)

what ever it is... it's still came from that fraction..
1- 1
2- 1.67
3- 2
4- 2.67
5- 3.33
6- 4

crazy jargon same like fsb and htt..
so just multiply that value with fsb will get the ram speed (don't forget to multiply by 2 for ddr)
easier isn't it.. but lost the concept..
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ya, its all about maths.
but don't know motherboard implement multiplier logic circuit or divider logic circuit.
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post Jul 10 2010, 05:20 AM

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its not that easy to degrade .
crucial ballistix tracer is nice but its hot cause of the LED .
that's what people concern i guess .
anyway, 1 thing i dislike bout AMD is that u cant OC by too much compared to the stock speed .
but they give u high clock even at stock wub.gif
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[quote=verdict,Jul 9 2010, 11:20 PM]
Ram master do the talking~ biggrin.gif

Already jump into DDR3 dude? wub.gif
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i ain't master... sad.gif
no time to play comp nowadays.. no upgrade lor blink.gif blush.gif
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post Jul 10 2010, 11:51 AM

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Crucial Ballistix Tracers are good.....I suspect its the LED that causes its short lifespan ~_~

Its darn hot.....
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jul 10 2010, 11:51 AM)
Crucial Ballistix Tracers are good.....I suspect its the LED that causes its short lifespan ~_~
Its darn hot.....
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yalo, always heard about people say rma this ram.
looks like adding led in ram is still not a good idea.
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QUOTE(monsh @ Jul 10 2010, 05:20 AM)
anyway, 1 thing i dislike bout AMD is that u cant OC by too much compared to the stock speed .
but they give u high clock even at stock  wub.gif
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performance aside, it's just a sales gimmick by intel... tongue.gif

w/ new manufacturin process, u gonna see competitive clocks chunk out from amd chips... i'm pretty impressed by 125w thuban, things will only get better w/ 95w thuban & its predecessors. nod.gif

QUOTE(saturn85 @ Jul 10 2010, 12:08 PM)
yalo, always heard about people say rma this ram.
looks like adding led in ram is still not a good idea.
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i'd say it's d implementation/design & chipset issue. d9 chips are voltage hungry, coupled w/ high temp & poor heat dissipation, there u go... short life span sticks... sweat.gif
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With new manufacturing process nowadays, both Intel and AMD can clock at high speeds~~
Those were the days where AMD 3Ghz was like godlike to achieve haha
For Intel, it was 4Ghz

Now....both can easily do 4Ghz (performance aside, switched places) haha

I think my WC setup not that optimised....stock speed 2.2Ghz at 1.1V, idle at 28c load at 38-39c. Any comments?

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