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munak991
post Jun 17 2010, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Jun 17 2010, 07:05 PM)
Who send the lcd to you anyway? your living place?
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Klang, Taxi send me a LCD funny right?
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post Jun 17 2010, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jun 17 2010, 07:57 PM)
Klang, Taxi send me a LCD funny right?
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lolwat?! blink.gif

Taxi send you?! sweat.gif laugh.gif

Dell service can be broken sometime,depend on ur luck

now seems like the luck is not at ur side sad.gif
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QUOTE(V3nz @ Jun 17 2010, 10:09 PM)
lolwat?! blink.gif

Taxi send you?! sweat.gif  laugh.gif

Dell service can be broken sometime,depend on ur luck

now seems like the luck is not at ur side sad.gif
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It might be done by agent, 3rd party company. So in case, You call Dell, Dell call agent, agent simply answer, Dell call back you again "Its new unit."

Who's fault? doh.gif
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post Jun 17 2010, 11:29 PM

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Dell fault
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post Jun 17 2010, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jun 17 2010, 11:29 PM)
Dell fault
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post Jun 18 2010, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(V3nz @ Jun 17 2010, 11:50 PM)
yup nod.gif
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If 3rd unit come with bright pixel im going to return it. sien...
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14 day count down, woohooooooo, let's hope this wont delay until pass your 14 day limit.

dell always use this technique, seen alot of my friend kena, change change change change change, 14 day passed, shit cannot return.
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post Jun 18 2010, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(V3nz @ Jun 17 2010, 12:31 AM)
This indeed a real disappointment.... doh.gif  doh.gif

Will it affect when i watching movie or playing games? hmm.gif


Added on June 17, 2010, 12:35 am
LOL,my thread laugh.gif
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I've run a few movie clips through the same screen, decided to keep it for now as likely replacement won't be much different. As long as you don't watch your movies in pitch darkness (absolutely no lighting except for the LCD) then you will not see the corner bleeds at all as the movie clip will be much brighter than the letterbox top & bottom. If you're watching a 16:9 movie (not the 2.35 aspect from the cinema / blu-ray) then the movie will fill the whole screen and for sure there will be no problems even in a totally dark room. rclxms.gif

I don't really do any gaming so can't comment on the slower 8ms screen, it's fast enough for movies + the contrast / color accuracy is much better than a TN... especially laptop ones (those really suck, even moving a few inches off center or up / down and it's all washed out). If your gaming doesn't involve lots of dark dungeons / tunnels / space ships, then the corner bleed issue isn't a problem. It just looks quite bad when there is no bright object at all on the screen, it looks obvious... if there is anything on the screen, then your eyes will likely focus on that (adjust to the brighter object) and you won't notice the corners are a little less black. blink.gif

I was looking specifically for an IPS screen with a pivot function... looks great in portrait mode if you have lots of CBR files to view, the JPGs will fill the whole screen vertically and it's almost the same size as reading a newspaper (screen is 20" tall in portrait mode). thumbup.gif Certainly larger than an actual comic page.
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QUOTE(sleedlx @ Jun 18 2010, 01:15 AM)
I've run a few movie clips through the same screen, decided to keep it for now as likely replacement won't be much different. As long as you don't watch your movies in pitch darkness (absolutely no lighting except for the LCD) then you will not see the corner bleeds at all as the movie clip will be much brighter than the letterbox top & bottom. If you're watching a 16:9 movie (not the 2.35 aspect from the cinema / blu-ray) then the movie will fill the whole screen and for sure there will be no problems even in a totally dark room.  rclxms.gif

I don't really do any gaming so can't comment on the slower 8ms screen, it's fast enough for movies + the contrast / color accuracy is much better than a TN... especially laptop ones (those really suck, even moving a few inches off center or up / down and it's all washed out). If your gaming doesn't involve lots of dark dungeons / tunnels / space ships, then the corner bleed issue isn't a problem. It just looks quite bad when there is no bright object at all on the screen, it looks obvious... if there is anything on the screen, then your eyes will likely focus on that (adjust to the brighter object) and you won't notice the corners are a little less black.  blink.gif

I was looking specifically for an IPS screen with a pivot function... looks great in portrait mode if you have lots of CBR files to view, the JPGs will fill the whole screen vertically and it's almost the same size as reading a newspaper (screen is 20" tall in portrait mode).  thumbup.gif Certainly larger than an actual comic page.
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dun worry,i already decide to buy it

so,if there is bleeding,can i ask for xchange?

or bleeding is normal one? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(V3nz @ Jun 18 2010, 01:46 AM)
dun worry,i already decide to buy it

so,if there is bleeding,can i ask for xchange?

or bleeding is normal one? hmm.gif
Unless it's really bad.. you're unlikely able to justify for an exchange
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post Jun 18 2010, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jun 17 2010, 06:28 PM)
So what happen today?
Called dell they said no stock,
End up Logistic (handling warranty department)
call me that they have stock, ask them isit New? then they say is refurbish then i call them to check with it again. check check check then call me. said is new. come ady different name different adds. Check inside a 24" old model of Dell monitor. WHICH IS REFURBISH somemore WHAT IS THIS!! SENDING WRONG MONITOR + LIE!?
ask him to take back i dont want sign. call technique support. ask them when my monitor will come? say dont know...

Should i fill a complain?
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buying a monitor should not be this hassle... lol... normally buy stuff...is, buy and use...
i'm sorry for your problem sad.gif
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post Jun 18 2010, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(V3nz @ Jun 18 2010, 01:46 AM)
so,if there is bleeding,can i ask for xchange?

or bleeding is normal one? hmm.gif
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Bleeding is quite normal across for LCD panel.

As long as the bleeding is not serious, (most on at edge or don't so serious), I don't see much an issue for ordinary usage.

It is only noticeable is pitch black screen which general usage has little issue on it.


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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 18 2010, 11:50 AM)
Bleeding is quite normal across for LCD panel.

As long as the bleeding is not serious, (most on at edge or don't so serious), I don't see much an issue for ordinary usage.

It is only noticeable is pitch black screen which general usage has little issue on it.
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post Jun 18 2010, 06:01 PM

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guys,

i want to buy 23' monitor for gaming and watch movies.
budget 700-750.
plz recommend me.

thnx guys.
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QUOTE(king114 @ Jun 18 2010, 06:01 PM)
guys,

i want to buy 23' monitor for gaming and watch movies.
budget   700-750.
plz recommend me.

thnx guys.
Dell U2311H.... or go TN and save some bucks but loose quality.

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post Jun 19 2010, 01:36 AM

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any lcd recommend ?
23' or 24' ?
now lcd come with led ?
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QUOTE(mr11 @ Jun 19 2010, 01:36 AM)
any lcd recommend ?
23' or 24' ?
now lcd come with led ?
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what is the budget?

i would recommend Dell U2311H,its IPS panel drool.gif

no,not most of the lcd comes with led technology

only some,google has the more accurate answer tongue.gif
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below rm800 ? how abt samsung B2430H ?
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post Jun 19 2010, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(V3nz @ Jun 19 2010, 03:20 AM)
what is the budget?

i would recommend Dell U2311H,its IPS panel drool.gif

no,not most of the lcd comes with led technology

only some,google has the more accurate answer tongue.gif
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As V3nz as said, most LCDs still come with CCFL backlighting... those with LED backlighting will usually have something in their name / model to indicate it has it as it's a relatively new feature to desktop LCDs. Being new, LED models tend to be also more expensive.

Why LED? It allows the monitor to be thinner, use less power, have higher brightness (for the same power as CCFL) which in turns allows the makers to claim higher contrast ratio (as white peak brightness is higher), and a higher /wider color gamut range. The first two reasons are why it's very common in laptop LCDs and the last two reasons (+ maybe the thin factor) are why it's in the top end LCD TVs. There's also a difference between edge-lit LED and direct-lit LED and also white LED vs RGB LED. There are very few direct-lit RGB LED monitors as those are very expensive professional models that costs more than most PCs builds (just like similar TVs models are often in the 10+k range).

Even so, having LED does not automatically mean it's a better monitor... all depends on your needs / main usage & budget. As most people (in these kind of forums anyhow) tend to put gaming & watching TV / movies as a priority, TN LCDs are cheaper, have less ghosting (lower GtG times) & are 98% of the available models anyhow. IPS have better viewing angles, more accurate colors & often better contrast ratio.
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LCD Monitor almost lates LED if brightness 100% when white will death damage screen dot dot
i know batter normail LCD then led right

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