Common Kelvin White Balance Settings : 2500K - very strong orange tungsten light 2800K - strong orange tungsten light 3200K - yellowish tungsten light 4500K M6 - flourescent light (most flourescent tubes are green even though our eyes don't see it) 5500K - flash 6500K - daylight (or daylight-balanced flourescent light) 9900K - strong blue stage lighting or evening light
Xenon lighting is rare but that should be between 7000-9000K.
Whenever you enter a new situation that has different WB, just set your Kelvin WB again and test with one shot. You
should be able to do this with practice.
With the Sony A300 and A350, you can use Live View and see the effect of changing Kelvin WB... live!
M = Magenta G = Green 2500K = Blue 9900K = Amber
Take a picture. Supposing the picture is very Green, you need to add the opposite which is Magenta. If the picture is
too Blue you need to go closer to Amber. So if the picture is very blue-green-ish, you will need to go closer to 9900K
M9.
To prevent the built-in flash from appearing in pictures when in wireless flash mode, you can use any of these
methods, or a combination of them:
- use a darker aperture (e.g. F11) - use a lower ISO (e.g. ISO100) - use a shutter speed faster than your flash sync speed so that High Speed Sync is activated (e.g. 1/320th of a
second) - use a piece of exposed, developed negative film in front of your pop-up flash
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Alpha street pricelist ***updated 30th April 2010***
Camera --------- Sony A230 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM14xx Sony A330 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM18xx Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM20xx Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM24xx Sony A700 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM33xx Sony A550 body only = RM21xx Sony A500 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM31xx Sony A550 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM24xx Sony A550 + 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM40xx Sony A850 body only = RM61xx Sony A900 body only = RM73xx (Studio Zaloon)
The following suffixes identify what lens comes with the camera body:
G = Sony 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DT K = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT L = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM P = Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT Q = Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM W = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 X = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT Y = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT (2) SAM Z = Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA
Battery Grip -------------- Sony VG-B30AM for A200/A300/A350 = RM6xx Sony VG-C70AM battery grip for A700 = RM9xx Sony VG-C90AM for A900 = RM9xx
Flash ------ Sony HVL-F20AM = RM4xx Sony HVL-F42AM = RM7xx Sony HVL-F58AM = RM11xx
New APS-C / DT Crop Lenses -------------------------------
Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM20xx Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA = RM25xx Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM16xx Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM16xx Sony 30mm F2.8 DT SAM Macro = RM7xx (NEW) Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM5xx Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Macro = RM30xx
New Full-Frame Lenses ---------------------------
Sony 16mm F2.8 Diagonal Fisheye = RM25xx Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM19xx Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM18xx Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM8xx Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM = RM26xx (NEW) Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM45xx Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM10xx Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM14xx Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro = RM30xx Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro = RM38xx Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM54xx Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM25xx Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM54xx Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA = RM50xx Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM23xx Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA = RM48xx Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM36xx Sony 500mm F8.0 AF Reflex = RM25xx Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20xxx Sony 1.4x Teleconverter = RM15xx Sony 2.0x Teleconverter = RM15xx
This post has been edited by amadeo: May 15 2010, 03:56 PM
For me manual mode is easier than any other mode...last time always used P mode but after a while, tried the manual mode and really loving it...now I'm using it most of the time...
For me manual mode is easier than any other mode...last time always used P mode but after a while, tried the manual mode and really loving it...now I'm using it most of the time...
mind to teach me how to start with?...normally wat setting u all use?..
grats to the new thread.. LOL. I dont really use manual often. More to semi auto for fast moments.. unless you're dealing with still objects which enables u to have lots of time..
mind to teach me how to start with?...normally wat setting u all use?..
For me which is still a noob and amateur, first get used with the aperture and speed of the cam....and thank god my a550 got the liveview mode which I always use to see the end result of my photos...but if using flash, quite hard to predict the end result...need to ask the pro...hehe
Firstly I would like to congratulate on the new thread. My school uses an A230 for all of it's activity.
I wanna ask why photo's taken with the A230 is very yellowish ? Especially on Manual Exposure mode. Auto works fine. The lens is the standard 18-55 kit lens.
Alright, few of them just won themselves few days of vacation. There's no need to congratulate a new thread.
pls make sure others in the Nikon threads, Panasonic Leica, Micro 4/3 threads and other such threads also get the same treatment. Pls dont give anyone the slack.
Thank you for your kind consideration
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: May 8 2010, 03:57 PM
1)Tamron AF 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Xr Di-II LD IF 2)Sony 50mm F1.8 SAM 3)Samyang 8 mm f/3.5 Aspherical IF MC Fish-eye
Macro lens is too expensive for me at the moment, thus, I am thinking to get the Raynox DCR-250 macro filter.
so, will this macro filter work on every lens? esp for the 18-200mm ? Can i get a focused image through out all the focal length ? I planing to use it at 200mm zooming some insects etc. Will this work? How is the minimum focusing distance then ?
1)Tamron AF 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Xr Di-II LD IF 2)Sony 50mm F1.8 SAM 3)Samyang 8 mm f/3.5 Aspherical IF MC Fish-eye
Macro lens is too expensive for me at the moment, thus, I am thinking to get the Raynox DCR-250 macro filter.
so, will this macro filter work on every lens? esp for the 18-200mm ? Can i get a focused image through out all the focal length ? I planing to use it at 200mm zooming some insects etc. Will this work? How is the minimum focusing distance then ?
i think i works as long as ur thread size suits. it's adapter is for thread size 52-67mm. cjlai taught me how o use it. with my 18-70, i fix at 70mm then i move the camera forward or backward until u c the viewfinder show clear focused image. at 70mm my distance is around 5-6cm away. i tried on soket's 75-300. at 300mm very hard to find the subject. XP
i think i works as long as ur thread size suits. it's adapter is for thread size 52-67mm. cjlai taught me how o use it. with my 18-70, i fix at 70mm then i move the camera forward or backward until u c the viewfinder show clear focused image. at 70mm my distance is around 5-6cm away. i tried on soket's 75-300. at 300mm very hard to find the subject. XP
aiyoh, 1)Tamron AF 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Xr Di-II LD IF = 72mm 2)Sony 50mm F1.8 SAM = 52mm
freaky_deity : You wouldn't like the effect of the Tamron 18-200 couple with Raynox DCR-250. It's even worst with Raynox MSN-202. Too much vignetting (not sure it's the right term to it), you'll need to crop the picture to remove the dark circular framing. With the 3 lenses you mentioned, i think the 50mm f/1.8 is the only best match provided you have step up ring to 52mm filter thread.
Btw, Tamron 18-200 thread is 62mm and 50mm f/1.8 SAM is 49mm.
Kul | Mo0 : Maybe you can share us your setup? It's like one of those wedding photos, without the rings. Cool shot.
ISO 400 , f2.2 , 1/250s. a700 + SAL 50mm f1.4 Bokeh is from christmas lights with a table light shone from the left. Beside commenting on the not so "heart shaped" bokeh, any others?
ahpingko Close up filter are tied to a particular filter thread size (if you buy 62mm thread, it can only use on lens with 62mm thread), where as DCR-250 is adjustable from 52 - 67mm thread.
Well if you're not really into macros then I'd suggest u getting Raynox. Cheaper solution for your macro needs. I have one but I rarely use it anymore. Hahahaha.
Primes are "unzoomable" lenses which normally have bigger apertures not able to be obtained from zoom lenses (f1.4 , f1.8) which are also alot more sharper.
UWA = Ultra Wide Angle lenses. UWA is about 10mm~14mm.
Primes are "unzoomable" lenses which normally have bigger apertures not able to be obtained from zoom lenses (f1.4 , f1.8) which are also alot more sharper.
UWA = Ultra Wide Angle lenses. UWA is about 10mm~14mm.
so my image not sharp enough is normal la?..coz i using 18-55...
You get blur shots because your shutter speed not fast enough I think. Make sure the object is properly lit up. If not, get a flash.
oh!...i using quite a low speed...around 1/30 - 1/60..lol...i test in my room only..i will see the lightmeter on my 550..make sure it is 0 or slightly positive value beside 0...i only got internal flash...but i dont want use it..too bright...coz i dont know how to make it softer...
if using ISO 400, i capture darkness only....lol...
Slower the shutter speed then, let in more light. But the slower the shutter speed, the more stable your hand must be, or else it'll blur the image. Anything below 1/40 sec I'll recommend a tripod.
Get a cheapo tripod la. Some cheapo tripods r good. I dont have tripods so dont ask me. Heheheh~
i dont want too cheap 1..i saw some DigiEye rm50..lol...so lightweight, later my dearest alpha drop on floor coz i wan to save some hundred ringgit then i will
QUOTE(fabianz03 @ May 8 2010, 06:17 PM)
Slower the shutter speed then, let in more light. But the slower the shutter speed, the more stable your hand must be, or else it'll blur the image. Anything below 1/40 sec I'll recommend a tripod.
yalo..hard to maintain the 1kg dslr without handshake abit...
QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 8 2010, 06:17 PM)
ahpingko : Trial and error. Some basic stuffs no point learning from words wan. Go out there and really play your camera.
Woots.. damn ambitious.. good good. Last time I used to like aim for the A700 with 18-250 which was priced at 6k with memory card thats all.. Looking back at that.. Im glad I didnt choose that.. In the end settled for A300 twin lens =P
^ if u're using A mode, better have flash/popup flash fired to make sure the subject's well exposed.. even in manual also u have to use it, especially when u're shooting with the sun at the back if ur subject..
eh bro wanna ask something here...i notice C and N brand body seems to be lighter than ours....i am talking about the d40 and 500d or soemthing..compared to the a550 .......how did they make it so light??
Hi guys.. I'm new here.. Currently hold with A300 and look for entry level tele lens. Which is better compare between Tamron and Sigma? What is the different? Pls advise.. Thanks
Hi guys.. I'm new here.. Currently hold with A300 and look for entry level tele lens. Which is better compare between Tamron and Sigma? What is the different? Pls advise.. Thanks
Have any link or detail on this lens? Btw, what is this type of used lens market price today? Sony lens can provide sharper image compare with Sigma and Tamron? pls advise.. Thanks.
Im not sure myself. I sold my SAL75300 d. Haahaha.
SAL55200 is sharper than SAL75300, but the focus motor speed is really slow
Have to be patient or else you miss your good shoot with it.
I think the SAL55200 is faster than the SAL75300.. I previously own the SAL55200 before.. Depends on what u compare with =P If you never play with any SSM or HSM lenses.. then I dont think the speed is slow for u =P
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QUOTE(Soony @ May 9 2010, 12:00 AM)
I think the SAL55200 is faster than the SAL75300.. I previously own the SAL55200 before.. Depends on what u compare with =P If you never play with any SSM or HSM lenses.. then I dont think the speed is slow for u =P
I used it once, was struggling to take a still shot
Every now and then when focusing it keeps focusing to the back, then to the front, and on and on and on~
I used it once, was struggling to take a still shot
Every now and then when focusing it keeps focusing to the back, then to the front, and on and on and on~
Hmm.. unless u re using AF-C , i dont see a reason once its focus lock why would it tend to re-focus.. Or another case u might be in an area with dim light.. haha..
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QUOTE(Soony @ May 9 2010, 12:19 AM)
Hmm.. unless u re using AF-C , i dont see a reason once its focus lock why would it tend to re-focus.. Or another case u might be in an area with dim light.. haha..
Was on Single Shot AF, and the lighting wasnt too dark.
Got sun light shining into Starbucks, and I was sitting at the corner, means the place where most sunlight can shine on.
anyone here went to the fashion show in 1U? I saw majority canon and nikon fellas there. but didn't see many sony fellas. I did see i sony girl shooter tho
New thread eh. Anyone went to icity just now? are they having event over there? I was on my way there but when we reached the exit to icity there's a massive traffic jam. Cars queuing to get in it. I thought it was a fluke so decide to u turn and from the icity itself the traffic is stagnant . Decide to go back home then.
Whos going Pavilion tomorrow? I will be going to get bday present for my gf. Hehehe.
QUOTE(Wonka @ May 9 2010, 12:45 AM)
i tak tau whether got fashion show or not la. I just going there to get some stuffs only.
No le.. i just return from Pavilion.. the center court don have any fashion show.. or stage.. Is the fashion show in One U still got this weekend? I thought the stage is for last week. mayb i'll drop by tomorrow..
QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ May 9 2010, 12:43 AM)
New thread eh. Anyone went to icity just now? are they having event over there? I was on my way there but when we reached the exit to icity there's a massive traffic jam. Cars queuing to get in it. I thought it was a fluke so decide to u turn and from the icity itself the traffic is stagnant . Decide to go back home then.
Planning to go there one day.. but is a bit far from my place..
No le.. i just return from Pavilion.. the center court don have any fashion show.. or stage.. Is the fashion show in One U still got this weekend? I thought the stage is for last week. mayb i'll drop by tomorrow.. Planning to go there one day.. but is a bit far from my place..
I only wanna go get some stuffs. But i'll b going alone la. Thats y i finding kaki. hahah~
ahpingko: If it's underexposed, just increase the EV in camera. Also be aware of your WB - the shot of the dry box is a bit blueish/greenish.
fabianz03: Did you set a different WB instead of AWB? Since Auto will go back to AWB.
freaky_deity: The 18-200mm has a 62mm filter thread. 50mm F1.8 DT SAM has a 49mm filter thread. You can look at your lenses and see for yourself!
hafeez71: All the shots are a bit loose. Zoom in and pick a subject.
gizmo_pony: Would prefer her looking up but what the heck.
Kul | Mo0: I wonder too why this thread doesn't C&C automatically. If you don't tell people to, they won't. Personally I find the picture very corny.
noprob: Wah gayut. But it works.
porkchop: They took out the screw drive motor from the D40. However for enthusiast models the A700 and A850/A900 are lighter (I've posted about this before.)
Have any link or detail on this lens? Btw, what is this type of used lens market price today? Sony lens can provide sharper image compare with Sigma and Tamron? pls advise.. Thanks.
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according to the spec.. F58 able to detect & send AWB information to the camera... I not really too sure of what this means...
Is that mean if im shooting under a room full with tungsten light.. my flash colour will match the light without the need to use colour gel??? I have a feeling that it couldnt work that amazingly.. so what does it actually do?
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Seem like latest version is more powerful Btw, have any used lens for sale?
Too many lens need to get, e.g. 50mm f1.4 prime lens, wide angle, macro lens for insect, 400mm prime lens for birding. Existing only have kit lens + old tamron 70-300mm, feel something is not enough.. so plan to update my lens.
Too many lens need to get, e.g. 50mm f1.4 prime lens, wide angle, macro lens for insect, 400mm prime lens for birding. Existing only have kit lens + old tamron 70-300mm, feel something is not enough.. so plan to update my lens.
new here? just 3 posts? uhm~ u need THAT much lens.. are u gona use it all?
This post has been edited by freddy manson: May 9 2010, 08:01 AM
long time not in here - hi to all alpha user! I'm newb, bought an alpha (a330) for at least 6 months back, occasionally used it.
Just wanna ask; what's should be my next buying? flash gun, lense, etc.?
I do some small research on SAM 50mm/f1.8. (yeah, because it's the cheapest one). it is a good lense? What's the major diff with f1.4 ?
Kindly advise
Regards,
Differences was ...
F1.4 has brighter stop down for sharp image and also it was much sharper in center image than F1.8 F1.4 is full frame compatible while F1.8 doesn't F1.8 has slightly larger macro magnification than F1.4 F1.4 is metal mount with hood while F1.8 is come with plastic mount without hood F1.8 has SAM with AF/MF switch but as ... it does noisy sound compare to F1.4
This post has been edited by wingster: May 9 2010, 12:13 PM
Hmm... Went to the only shopping mall in Bintulu, went into the Sony Centre. I guess the smallest sony centre in m'sia. hahaha.... Only cybershopt got demo unit, not those dslrs. In the shelf, spotted 1 A850, 1 A550, 2 A380 and 1A230, 1 50mm F1.8, 1 30mm F2.8 Macro, 1 70200G, 1 18-250, 1 28mm F2.8. That's all i rmb. hahaha... Price wise A230 with kit lens 1599 A380 with 1855 rm2199 with 1855/55200 rm 2499, A550 body only Rm2399, A850 body only 6999, 50mm 1.8/28mm 2.8 RM599 70200G RM6699 18-250 RM1999 30mm F2.8 macro rm1650
... I can rmb them with one sight. Crazy alpha fever...
Hmm... Went to the only shopping mall in Bintulu, went into the Sony Centre. I guess the smallest sony centre in m'sia. hahaha.... Only cybershopt got demo unit, not those dslrs. In the shelf, spotted 1 A850, 1 A550, 2 A380 and 1A230, 1 50mm F1.8, 1 30mm F2.8 Macro, 1 70200G, 1 18-250, 1 28mm F2.8. That's all i rmb. hahaha... Price wise A230 with kit lens 1599 A380 with 1855 rm2199 with 1855/55200 rm 2499, A550 body only Rm2399, A850 body only 6999, 50mm 1.8/28mm 2.8 RM599 70200G RM6699 18-250 RM1999 30mm F2.8 macro rm1650
... I can rmb them with one sight. Crazy alpha fever...
lol...haha....i also wanted to buy new lens...but very exp!..
using ISO 400...hehe...using higher shutter speed now.... bout the brightness , i try to maintain at 0 or slight above 0...
i have improved!
you have improved tremendously...
continue shooting and expore other exposure settings as well. And share with us. We can learn from you too Also if got TT, try to attend... can be poisoned by other alpharians gears... haha
continue shooting and expore other exposure settings as well. And share with us. We can learn from you too Also if got TT, try to attend... can be poisoned by other alpharians gears... haha
i m so happy... ..thx thx...i still exploring..hehe...btw, u all using manual focus or auto focus..i using auto focus...
LOL.. moo considered okay already.. I have friends around age of 20 changing from A200 suddenly to D300s with 70-200 VR II summore.. haha.. Well, its their money.. =D
he is spoiled brat...can get something so good without any effort....haha...not a good start...
Generalization is not appropriate... on the other hand, he could be a very nice person, very hard working... and whatever he wants, he works hard until he gets it betul tak?
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: May 9 2010, 03:48 PM
Generalization is not appropriate... on the other hand, he could be a very nice person, very hard working... and whatever he wants... he works hard until he gets it
haha..coz mostly i saw is spoiled brats...sorry for mistake..
ahpingko : FYI, my mum never did pay anything for my camera stuffs. I worked 3 months in Machines , a Mac shop and continuously work freelancing to get my money. So dont assume stuffs like this next time please.
ahpingko : FYI, my mum never did pay anything for my camera stuffs. I worked 3 months in Machines , a Mac shop and continuously work freelancing to get my money. So dont assume stuffs like this next time please.
sure sure...i kept back the word.. ...btw, what freelancing u are doing?..mind to share?
cassplayer : Bugger! Dont make me see you and poison you deeply. XD
ahpingko : Some small scale photography works. And some times just some events that has nothing to do with photography.
oh i see...coz i m tinking of doing some simple freelancing, to learn more and at the same time earn some extra money beside my job.. ...freelancing photographer earn alot?..any lobang to share share?...
sure sure...i kept back the word.. ...btw, what freelancing u are doing?..mind to share?
I remember some threads back that bro MoO assist somebody here do photoshoot and bro mOo was asking about the photo printer... I vaguely remember... hayya, memory slipping la... old man already la me...
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: May 9 2010, 03:58 PM
guys ah, normally what setting u all use for shooting a single object?..such as a flower or an toy model?..the AF area, using spot?..and metering mode using center?..how abt the AF?..using single AF or auto AF or continuous AF?
Well, depends on how much u want to frame it.. but based on what I think u re thinking.. normally I go for Spot metering or maybe Local.. metering is spot metering unless ur subject is bigger than what I think then i ll use center.. AF single would do find for me =D
hmmm... I feel being left behind la. Many already have more than 1 kit lens, macro lens, zoom lens, UWA lens, fish eye lens, prime F1.8 , F1.4 .... waaaa
me until now still using 1 lens... A550 + 1680Z kit lens
Some of us with old screw-driven Sigmas, the Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT kit lens, and even my Tamron 200-400mm F5.6 LD 75DM, have experienced gear stripping - that is, the internal gear track of the lens has broken, usually a few gear teeth on a plastic track. What does this mean?
I'll open my gear-stripped Tamron 200-400mm to show you! I've sent this to repair before, but they said they were out of parts (this is the first generation of this lens, and the second-generation 200-400mm was then made obsolete with the Tamron 200-500mm F5-6.3.
The symptom of a gear-stripped lens is simple - mount the lens on camera, turn it on, and the camera will focus the lens to infinity... and it will start vibrating and making a loud whirring sound there. The reason is that the gear cannot catch onto the teeth because it is broken. You can then change your camera to manual focus, and then turn it towards close focus. Auto focus may work, but if you miss and the camera hunts, it will get stuck at infinity and vibrate again.
Note that this does not only happen to Alpha-mount lenses - Nikon F-mount lenses can get it too. Also, this was a good reason for Sony to dump the 18-70mm for the Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM which has a in-lens motor and would not face this problem. Likewise for the Sigma lenses with HSM - they would not face this problem.
Anyway, the A-mount is rather simple from the back - there is a black shield piece (in between the metal mount and the rear optics.) You need to remove this first.
Note that the information chip gets in the way - so you gotta pull it aside without breaking it. Here, the black shielding piece is removed. The black-colored metal piece with two silver screws close together, is the aperture lever, and the other black-colored metal piece with two widely spaced silver screws, opens and closes the aperture blades by transferring motion to the aperture pin.
After removing the metal mount, I could remove the gears - here, it changes the gear ratio to a much slower one. Note the large gear in the bottom-right - this is in contact with the gear track. The screw drive of the camera connects to the shaft in the top-right. All metal.
I then removed the rear lens collar bit, and viola! Here's the broken gear track. The broken teeth are in the top-right corner. The hole is where the aforementioned large gear transfers rotation to the lens.
In theory, I could drive a nail down where I have marked it in red, to prevent the lens from getting to infinity (and thus getting stuck on the broken gear teeth.) However, my later pictures will show you why it can't be done.
The screw drive shaft, and the aperture uh... pin.
This post has been edited by albnok: May 9 2010, 04:10 PM
I then removed the outer part, with the focal lengths marked. As it turns out, the gear track is on that big long plastic tube in the top-left!
If I had embedded a nail, it would have stopped the big long plastic tube from rotating.
I removed the big long plastic tube with the gear track. This is almost as long as the lens, when retracted! No wonder the gear track is not made of metal - if it was, it would make the lens a lot heavier, and the focusing would be slower due to the weight.
Slightly out of focus, and to the right, is a rod that grabs onto a pin that pulls the focusing group nearer or further, to focus.
My thumb is holding that pin. Here it is at minimum focus distance. If I let go, it will roll down, and focus on infinity.
Fully extended. The gold-plated track tells the chip what the focal length is.
I also peeled off the label on the focus ring, but I could not unscrew the screws (they were too tight) so I couldn't open it any further.
My initial plan was to stop the lens from going to infinity, but seeing how it wasn't possible (the focus ring would've been my last hope) I ended up reassembling the lens but leaving the screw drive shaft out. So there is a hole where the screw drive used to be, and the camera will try to spin its screw in there if in AF. Focus confirm, autoexposure and SteadyShot work fine. I just have to manually focus, but at least it doesn't have the annoying gear-stripped symptoms. Also, since there is no screw drive, manual focus is very, very smooth!
hmmm... I feel being left behind la. Many already have more than 1 kit lens, macro lens, zoom lens, UWA lens, fish eye lens, prime F1.8 , F1.4 .... waaaa
me until now still using 1 lens... A550 + 1680Z kit lens
I thought you just started photography no? LOL.. be patient =P
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 9 2010, 04:08 PM)
hmmm... I feel being left behind la. Many already have more than 1 kit lens, macro lens, zoom lens, UWA lens, fish eye lens, prime F1.8 , F1.4 .... waaaa
me until now still using 1 lens... A550 + 1680Z kit lens
Getting left behind just because you don't own ALL the lenses will not make you the worse photographer in this world.
Getting left behind cause you waste most of your time dreaming when will you able to afford this, why some people can afford this, why are you still with kit lens this and that bla bla instead of using that precious time to improve on your shots will certainly make you one of the worst photographer in this world.
This post has been edited by vikingw2k: May 9 2010, 04:14 PM
hmmm... I feel being left behind la. Many already have more than 1 kit lens, macro lens, zoom lens, UWA lens, fish eye lens, prime F1.8 , F1.4 .... waaaa
me until now still using 1 lens... A550 + 1680Z kit lens
i only have the 550 body + 18-55 lens...hehe....7 days old DSLR owner...xD
hmmm... I feel being left behind la. Many already have more than 1 kit lens, macro lens, zoom lens, UWA lens, fish eye lens, prime F1.8 , F1.4 .... waaaa
me until now still using 1 lens... A550 + 1680Z kit lens
ur kit lens is Z lol..it bit all my lens and watever thing i have
Getting left behind just because you don't own ALL the lenses will not make you the worse photographer in this world.
Getting left behind cause you waste most of your time dreaming when will you able to afford this, why some people can afford this, why are you still with kit lens this and that bla bla instead of using that precious time to improve on your shots will certainly make you one of the worst photographer in this world.
true lah.. i only use max 3 lense for all of my wedding assignment and still kicking ass..
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QUOTE(amadeo @ May 9 2010, 04:26 PM)
true lah.. i only use max 3 lense for all of my wedding assignment and still kicking ass..
Owning a A900 wouldn't make your the best photographer compared to when you are owning a lousy 16-80 kit lens. To me, doesn't matter how many lenses you own or use. The main concern is it shouldn't be a measurement tool to determine whether you are left out in photography or not.
alamak... ni yang takut ni...baru sat sebut F1.8, terus dia mai...
nice pics... tapi mcm too warm (IMHO) la bro
Added on May 9, 2010, 4:27 pmbro albert, thank you for the detailed write up on Gear Stripping... very interesting and informative...
dah hang dok sebut depa mai la....
if not mistaken i was trying the WB setting...i set to 5600k if im not mistaken....or was it on AWB....???
QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 9 2010, 04:32 PM)
Owning a A900 wouldn't make your the best photographer compared to when you are owning a lousy 16-80 kit lens. To me, doesn't matter how many lenses you own or use. The main concern is it shouldn't be a measurement tool to determine whether you are left out in photography or not.
if not mistaken i was trying the WB setting...i set to 5600k if im not mistaken....or was it on AWB....??? now CZ is considered lousy kitlens guys...
seriously .... 16-80CZ has lousy built but superb optical =.= and it was a great lens however why people do call it as lousy or not a good performance kit lens?
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QUOTE(hazril @ May 9 2010, 04:42 PM)
now CZ is considered lousy kitlens guys...
Why not?
It's not a constant aperture lens and the highest aperture available is only f3.5. It protrudes when it zooms. It's not weather sealed. It doesn't have SSM. It's pricy.
I will take CZ 24-70 f2.8 SSM anytime than this overpriced plastic feel 16-80.
Added on May 9, 2010, 4:54 pm
QUOTE(wingster @ May 9 2010, 04:46 PM)
seriously .... 16-80CZ has lousy built but superb optical =.= and it was a great lens however why people do call it as lousy or not a good performance kit lens?
Indeed. When I first hold it in my hands. I was like wtf, pay so much for such a cheapo build. I was expecting the same feel like when I use my friend's CZ 24-70.
This post has been edited by vikingw2k: May 9 2010, 04:54 PM
Ah, but the 16-80mm is compact and very sharp. What can you get for RM2300 with the same aperture, compact size and focal length?
hazril: A bit magenta-ish (probably due to the roof or tablecloth.) Good candids but #2 and #4 might not fancy them being shot mid-sentence.
cassplayer: Nicely done, good color!
Banzai_san: No problem!
wingster: You were probably using a combination of settings that causes the flash to fire at a higher power. To make it easier for the flash, use a high ISO, bright aperture, slower shutter speed and use a diffuser pointing forwards if there is a high or dark ceiling.
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QUOTE(kevinwcw @ May 9 2010, 04:56 PM)
viking
no offense here...this theory may make me think only super damm rich people can play DSLR...
i am owning 1680cz...i think it was a superb lens no matter in build quality or the IQ...quite statisfy with it..Great lens on APSC
Obviously you will feel your lens is superb cause you are owning it. It's a common mentality to many. Once you move up to a better one, you will then realize how good it is.
QUOTE(albnok @ May 9 2010, 04:57 PM)
Ah, but the 16-80mm is compact and very sharp. What can you get for RM2300 with the same aperture, compact size and focal length?
Which is why, IMO, I would rather stay with a Tammy 17-50mm f2.8 and take the leap straight to CZ 24-70 rather than go somewhere in the middle and yet still stuck with a non constant aperture lens like what my friend did.
The Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 is a lot chunkier, and it has its fair share of build quality problems also (loose front part). Some people prefer range over the average 1 stop of light.
Ah, but the 16-80mm is compact and very sharp. What can you get for RM2300 with the same aperture, compact size and focal length?
hazril: A bit magenta-ish (probably due to the roof or tablecloth.) Good candids but #2 and #4 might not fancy them being shot mid-sentence.
cassplayer: Nicely done, good color!
Banzai_san: No problem!
wingster: You were probably using a combination of settings that causes the flash to fire at a higher power. To make it easier for the flash, use a high ISO, bright aperture, slower shutter speed and use a diffuser pointing forwards if there is a high or dark ceiling.
I see ... but whats the meaning about diffuser pointing forwards?
The only thing I don't like about the CZ1680 is that, I don't know how to say it in the proper terms but when you tilt it toward the ground, the lens would just zoom out without realising.
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QUOTE(albnok @ May 9 2010, 05:09 PM)
The Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 is a lot chunkier, and it has its fair share of build quality problems also (loose front part). Some people prefer range over the average 1 stop of light.
Chunkier? I doubt that. Their size is almost the same and in fact, Tammy is lighter than CZ16-80. Tammy's build quality problem? I suppose it depends and not all are like that. Just like moo's 16-80. Certainly not all 16-80 are loose like that right?
QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 9 2010, 05:19 PM)
The only thing I don't like about the CZ1680 is that, I don't know how to say it in the proper terms but when you tilt it toward the ground, the lens would just zoom out without realising.
This post has been edited by vikingw2k: May 9 2010, 05:24 PM
The only thing I don't like about the CZ1680 is that, I don't know how to say it in the proper terms but when you tilt it toward the ground, the lens would just zoom out without realising.
my buddy calls that... "pandai steam sendiri"
From what I heard la, the early productions 1680Z are having that problem... but after lots of complaints, now in the newer ones (mine included)... do not have that "self steaming" problem. My buddy's 1680Z has that problem. I dont have that problem on my 1680Z ...
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: May 9 2010, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 9 2010, 05:43 PM)
vikingw2k : Confirm ka? Then what for since we have SSS. Any changes in IQ?
Oops, I read too fast. I meant the first version. Second version is not available for Sony which is why I'm confused why albnok put it into the weight comparison between 16-80 and Tammy.
From what I heard la, the early productions 1680Z are having that problem... but after lots of complaints, now in the newer ones (mine included)... do not have that "self steaming" problem. My buddy's 1680Z has that problem. I dont have that problem on my 1680Z ...
Just sharing some photos (some of my noob shots) taken during my KKinabalu Alpha friends and myself went for a day outing at Heritage Village, Sabah Muzeum on 08 May 2010 in conjuction with the start of Sabah Fest month
>>> Sabah Fest - Cultural Galore at Heritage Village <<< (edit: link deleted as per vikingw2k post.)
p/s: are we allowed to link to another website such as above? If not allowed, pls inform me and I will delete it.
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: May 9 2010, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 9 2010, 05:48 PM)
vikingw2k : Alright then. But any difference between that 2 besides the VC feature?
To me, the differences isn't that significant. Which is why I rather go for the previous version before making a bigger leap.
QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 9 2010, 05:51 PM)
I dont think I will trade my 1680Z for Tamron 17-50mm F2.4. But of course different people have different requirements and/or opinion.
Trading your 1680Z for Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 is a joke unless you don't mind losing to depreciation. Since you already bought your CZ1680, just live with it. I was only saying that given a choice, I would rather stick to a Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 rather than CZ1680 and make a bigger leap in future. Either that or I would rather stay with my SAL18-70 considering the CZ1680's price VS performance isn't that justifiable.
Added on May 9, 2010, 5:57 pmNo, it would be better if you could post the pictures here instead of linking.
This post has been edited by vikingw2k: May 9 2010, 05:57 PM
Kul | Mo0: To make matters more confusing, there is a Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 Di II New (without VC) for Nikon F-mount, just for the D40/D40x/D60/D3000. The VC version replaces this but retains the in-lens motor which, if you've heard the Canon version, is quite buzzy.
The VC version is bigger and heavier by 136 grams. You gotta put the moving VC element and the actuators in and those add weight.
SSS for all other lenses, of course!
d4rkholeang3l: Add a little bit of low-radius Unsharp Mask on the bottom.
It's not a constant aperture lens and the highest aperture available is only f3.5. It protrudes when it zooms. It's not weather sealed. It doesn't have SSM. It's pricy.
I will take CZ 24-70 f2.8 SSM anytime than this overpriced plastic feel 16-80.
Added on May 9, 2010, 4:54 pm
Indeed. When I first hold it in my hands. I was like wtf, pay so much for such a cheapo build. I was expecting the same feel like when I use my friend's CZ 24-70.
whats the term use when people start to worry about their gear than the output ehh...???i forgot la....
if la 24-70 price like so cheap and the way u saying it like we are all here so rich...what to do la kan.....
can relate to bolded statement...???no....???
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 9 2010, 04:12 PM)
Getting left behind just because you don't own ALL the lenses will not make you the worse photographer in this world.
Getting left behind cause you waste most of your time dreaming when will you able to afford this, why some people can afford this, why are you still with kit lens this and that bla bla instead of using that precious time to improve on your shots will certainly make you one of the worst photographer in this world.
regards, 1870 kitlens user....
QUOTE(albnok @ May 9 2010, 04:57 PM)
hazril: A bit magenta-ish (probably due to the roof or tablecloth.) Good candids but #2 and #4 might not fancy them being shot mid-sentence.
thanx for the tip albert...will keep that in mind...
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QUOTE(hazril @ May 9 2010, 06:55 PM)
whats the term use when people start to worry about their gear than the output ehh...???i forgot la....
if la 24-70 price like so cheap and the way u saying it like we are all here so rich...what to do la kan.....
can relate to bolded statement...???no....???
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regards, 1870 kitlens user....
Seriously I guess you don't know what yourself are mumbling about other than trying to barge in to provoke people. We were discussing about CZ1680 vs Tammy 17-50mm f2.8 and CZ24-70 and here you are going way off topic mentioning about people worrying about gear and than output? Also, I did mentioned 'given a choice, IMO' and I believe those clearly stated that it was my on opinion that I would prefer to upgrade to Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 and straight to CZ24-70 rather than going to CZ1680. Did I ask everyone to just jump blindly to CZ2470 and all other lenses are junk? I didn't right? Stop poking your nose and making a fool out of yourself when me and several others are discussing and comparing in a proper manner
Seriously I guess you don't know what yourself are mumbling about other than trying to barge in to provoke people. We were discussing about CZ1680 vs Tammy 17-50mm f2.8 and CZ24-70 and here you are going way off topic mentioning about people worrying about gear and than output? Also, I did mentioned 'given a choice, IMO' and I believe those clearly stated that it was my on opinion that I would prefer to upgrade to Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 and straight to CZ24-70 rather than going to CZ1680. Did I ask everyone to just jump blindly to CZ2470 and all other lenses are junk? I didn't right? Stop poking your nose and making a fool out of yourself when me and several others are discussing and comparing in a proper manner
i was replying to what u have posted....comparing the lousy 1680 kitlens and 2470....well,just ignore my post...later u have the time join us for tt and see if i'm the type who provoke people or not...
p/s : it was so true by that said person thru pm...thanx dude....
QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 9 2010, 07:34 PM)
hazril, 24-70 ZA tu boleh buat downpayment untuk ViVa woo.. hehe
well,good optics come with a price...bole tahan berat also bro...did try kysham's 2470 coupled with his a850....quite heavy i would say....
This post has been edited by hazril: May 9 2010, 07:40 PM
Hazril is one nice guy la... I believe those who have met him can vouch for that...
On a different topic... hopefully betul la rumour that some kind of announcement from Sony will be made on the 11th May. Thats 2 more days and counting ... p/s: but dont hold me to that if no announcement ..
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: May 9 2010, 07:45 PM
seriously .... 16-80CZ has lousy built but superb optical =.= and it was a great lens however why people do call it as lousy or not a good performance kit lens?
wingster wingster.. CZ1680 IS NOT a kitlens yah.. tq tq tq
QUOTE(kevinwcw @ May 9 2010, 04:56 PM)
viking
no offense here...this theory may make me think only super damm rich people can play DSLR...
i am owning 1680cz...i think it was a superb lens no matter in build quality or the IQ...quite statisfy with it..Great lens on APSC
QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 9 2010, 05:37 PM)
my buddy calls that... "pandai steam sendiri"
From what I heard la, the early productions 1680Z are having that problem... but after lots of complaints, now in the newer ones (mine included)... do not have that "self steaming" problem. My buddy's 1680Z has that problem. I dont have that problem on my 1680Z ...
steam sendiri kah? he he he weird ah... well i rarely shoot in f2.8 anyway.. either its f1.7 or i'll gor for f8 or smaller.. i'm used to it already so the big aperture issue.. doesnt really apply to me..
as for me, I think output produced by SAL 16105 is better than CZ1680.. I do think that SAL16105 produce more vibrant color... but at that time I paired it with Sony a230.. I think its the diff of sensor... My CZ1680 is paired with Sony a550..
CZ has more visible vignetting which annoys me compare to 16105.. Sharpness? I think not a lot diff even when I zoom it 100%
Now I'm with no gear.. If I want to buy lens, I'll go for 16105 rather than CZ1680.. 1750 is not in list as it too short.. I would rather spend it on prime (30mm and 50mm).. Now still waiting for a7xx while funding for it..
This post has been edited by destfull: May 9 2010, 07:50 PM
as for me, I think output produced by SAL 16105 is better than CZ1680.. I do think that SAL16105 produce more vibrant color... but at that time I paired it with Sony a230.. I think its the diff of sensor... My CZ1680 is paired with Sony a550..
CZ has more visible vignetting which annoys me compare to 16105.. Sharpness? I think not a lot diff even when I zoom it 100%
Now I'm with no gear.. If I want to buy lens, I'll go for 16105 rather than CZ1680.. 1750 is not in list as it too short.. I would rather spend it on prime (30mm and 50mm).. Now still waiting for a7xx while funding for it..
Interesting... I have not notice my 1680Z vignetting ...
as for me, I think output produced by SAL 16105 is better than CZ1680.. I do think that SAL16105 produce more vibrant color... but at that time I paired it with Sony a230.. I think its the diff of sensor... My CZ1680 is paired with Sony a550..
CZ has more visible vignetting which annoys me compare to 16105.. Sharpness? I think not a lot diff even when I zoom it 100%
Now I'm with no gear.. If I want to buy lens, I'll go for 16105 rather than CZ1680.. 1750 is not in list as it too short.. I would rather spend it on prime (30mm and 50mm).. Now still waiting for a7xx while funding for it..
I think what u ve experience is either having a not-slim filter or u're shooting at 16mm @F3.5 .. Other than that, no possible vignette as far as I'm concern.. haha..
I think what u ve experience is either having a not-slim filter or u're shooting at 16mm @F3.5 .. Other than that, no possible vignette as far as I'm concern.. haha..
the not slim filter problem makes sense for the vignetting problem. ie Its a filter problem, not the 1680Z per se.
I think Ive snap many shots at 16mm @F3.5 but have not notice any vignetting. Im using Sony's Zeiss MC Protector btw.
Hazril is one nice guy la... I believe those who have met him can vouch for that...
On a different topic... hopefully betul la rumour that some kind of announcement from Sony will be made on the 11th May. Thats 2 more days and counting ... p/s: but dont hold me to that if no announcement ..
thanx for the compliment bro.... u nice2 to me,i nice2 with u also....
QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 9 2010, 07:46 PM)
hazril is a nice dude that slapped his head so hard when he heard the story of my Sigma 70-200 f2.8 HSM. XD
ok,dont remind me of the that incident...AGAIN!
QUOTE(destfull @ May 9 2010, 07:49 PM)
as for me, I think output produced by SAL 16105 is better than CZ1680.. I do think that SAL16105 produce more vibrant color... but at that time I paired it with Sony a230.. I think its the diff of sensor... My CZ1680 is paired with Sony a550..
CZ has more visible vignetting which annoys me compare to 16105.. Sharpness? I think not a lot diff even when I zoom it 100%
Now I'm with no gear.. If I want to buy lens, I'll go for 16105 rather than CZ1680.. 1750 is not in list as it too short.. I would rather spend it on prime (30mm and 50mm).. Now still waiting for a7xx while funding for it..
wingster wingster.. CZ1680 IS NOT a kitlens yah.. tq tq tq steam sendiri kah? he he he weird ah... well i rarely shoot in f2.8 anyway.. either its f1.7 or i'll gor for f8 or smaller.. i'm used to it already so the big aperture issue.. doesnt really apply to me..
I know it's NOT A KIT LENS okay, I just said that Banzai_san come along lens when purchase the A550 as "kit lens"
the not slim filter problem makes sense for the vignetting problem. ie Its a filter problem, not the 1680Z per se.
I think Ive snap many shots at 16mm @F3.5 but have not notice any vignetting. Im using Sony's Zeiss MC Protector btw.
It's not really that visible but if u notice closely there are slight vignette.. As u stop down your aperture, the vignette tends to disappear.. Nice choice of a filter for your lens =D
It's not really that visible but if u notice closely there are slight vignette.. As u stop down your aperture, the vignette tends to disappear.. Nice choice of a filter for your lens =D
filter bought the same time (but separately) as my A550 "package" at Zaloon. Got poison by Uncle Chin
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muahahaha!, i been using this 2 lens for almost a year already. my hands on experience? they are both GOOD! (sorry to my close friends, i dun like to tell all the gears i own, because i dun wan ppl to see me as gear freak or spoiled rich *******... i earn those gear from wedding gigs. i hid the CZ for wedding uses only, coz its the most expensive lens in my drybox, and i give high care towards it.)
everytime i use 1750F2.8, i wish i had the cz 80mm(which has nicer bokeh IMHO vs tammy@50F2.8)
everytime i use the cz, i wish i have the tamron F4 sharpness (yes, its DAMN sharper then CZ :/)
but both are great lens!!!!! if u were to ask me which to get? depend on how deep ur pocket?
why not tamron@F2.8? 99% of the time, i uses F4 to shoot, i dislike the softness on F2.8 on tamron.
so, my own opinion and my style, i shoot F4 always, so in CZ, F4.5 is hardly any differences.
viking, i hope u dont angry at me, but i wan to correct ur statement.
18-70 @18mm F3.5 HAS vigneting (see pic taken with kitlens) 17-50 @17mm F2.8-F3.5 HAS vigneting (has vigneting all the way till 35mm @F2.8) 16-80 @16mm F3.5 HAS vigneting (gone at F5.6)* 16-105 @ 16mm F3.5 HAS vigneting, (gone at F5.6)* 24-70 @ 24mm F2.8 (FF) HAS vigneting 24-70 @ 24mm F2.8 (crop) has, but unnoticeable unless u shoot sky.
*to me F5.6 has minima vignet that can be neglet, else, at F8 its definately Gone
This post has been edited by ieR: May 9 2010, 08:24 PM
filter bought the same time (but separately) as my A550 "package" at Zaloon. Got poison by Uncle Chin
How much was it? Lets see, retail was around RM 230 is it? I skipped that filter cos all the shops was offering at retail pricing, some higher than it.. So in the end I opt for the B+W instead =D
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PERRRGGHHH... berapa ribu punya harga "kit lens" tu? tapi gambar mmg lawa
QUOTE(wingster @ May 9 2010, 08:07 PM)
I know it's NOT A KIT LENS okay, I just said that Banzai_san come along lens when purchase the A550 as "kit lens"
QUOTE(Soony @ May 9 2010, 08:14 PM)
How much was it? Lets see, retail was around RM 230 is it? I skipped that filter cos all the shops was offering at retail pricing, some higher than it.. So in the end I opt for the B+W instead =D
Cant recall exactly the price... but I think about the same la.. around that price.
I think what u ve experience is either having a not-slim filter or u're shooting at 16mm @F3.5 .. Other than that, no possible vignette as far as I'm concern.. haha..
I've used a slim filter.. and when I speak about it, I don't use any filter... don't be a fan, be a user please.. but I like its bokeh.. agreed on ieR said.. its almost as owning a prime but not like owns it..
QUOTE(hazril @ May 9 2010, 08:06 PM)
bro,i thought u got the 7d from ur fren....???
sold it for a nice profit concentrating on web world now until a7xx coming
I've used a slim filter.. and when I speak about it, I don't use any filter... don't be a fan, be a user please.. but I like its bokeh.. agreed on ieR said.. its almost as owning a prime but not like owns it..
Exactly, I'm speaking based on user experience,you got my point there. Thanks for pointing it out.
ermmmmmm....sorry to interrupt but what was the cheapest price u guys got ur tamron 17-50mm at?thanks..
From what I know , months ago should be around 1.4k-1.5k.. though I wasn't quite updated with this lens. Well, in alphanatics there's people selling it as 2nd hand.. go and check it out =D
This post has been edited by Soony: May 9 2010, 09:04 PM
From what I know , months ago should be around 1.4k-1.5k.. though I wasn't quite updated with this lens. Well, in alphanatics there's people selling it as 2nd hand.. go and check it out =D
haha..but i want to get a first hand lens lar..since my dad is ok with it..XD
Wao cool, then u should drop studio Zaloon a call and ask him for the best price. Sorry can't help much, am used to the prices in Penang.
ooo..how's the price in penang? zaloon seems quite far from my place..if my lens got problem..i should send back to tamron service centre?or i can send it to camera store?
ooo..how's the price in penang? zaloon seems quite far from my place..if my lens got problem..i should send back to tamron service centre?or i can send it to camera store?
I remember asking CNS like 1 year+ ago its at 1.35k but that was before the prices of yen increased.. so I assume its should be 1.45k now?
For warranty wise you can always go back to the shop and ask them to send for you or likewise go straight to tamron's sole distributor in Msia which is Futuromic. Best is u could call up Zaloon, might be pricey a lil bit , but as what the people in the forum say, good service and huge range of the lens series.
I remember asking CNS like 1 year+ ago its at 1.35k but that was before the prices of yen increased.. so I assume its should be 1.45k now?
For warranty wise you can always go back to the shop and ask them to send for you or likewise go straight to tamron's sole distributor in Msia which is Futuromic. Best is u could call up Zaloon, might be pricey a lil bit , but as what the people in the forum say, good service and huge range of the lens series.
hmmm...difference also rm100 only right? haha...i think go amcorp buy la...thanks!
I still cant find the most satisfying setting for silhouette shots
for silhouette , its more like trial and error... but the most basic things to do is... make the exposure value negative... like.. increasing the shutter speed of what the camera had "suggested" to you.
cassplayer & yfchin2 : Playing with my bro's 180 + 50mm 1.8, using Manual mode + turn off DRO. Set the Aperture to how you would like the DOF to be , i choose f/8 and play with the shutter till u get what u want. Easier if you have Live View
Exif for the shot: Camera: Sony DSLR-A380 Exposure: 0.002 sec (1/640) Aperture: f/8.0 Focal Length: 50 mm ISO Speed: 200 Exposure Bias: 0 EV Flash: Off, Did not fire
Kul | Mo0 no lah , i need to sell my kidney for that
thinking to let go gadget. A300 + SAL18250 with hoya pro 1d + meike battery grip. what price do you guys think i can let go ?
Going for D90? Saw ur postings in that thread.. haha.. A300 body should be around Rm 1k depends on condition. SAL 18-250 should be around Rm 1.4k with the filter. Battery Grip I have no idea , shouldn't be more than RM 400 as original is around there
Going for D90? Saw ur postings in that thread.. haha.. A300 body should be around Rm 1k depends on condition. SAL 18-250 should be around Rm 1.4k with the filter. Battery Grip I have no idea , shouldn't be more than RM 400 as original is around there
But this is just me =D
D90 really capture my interest for a long time now.
i think the battery grip would be cheap. new one is under RM300.
Hey guys wanna ask about an event telephoto lens ...
I was interested on 70-200 F2.8 lens for indoor events such as fashion show but doesn't meet the budget for Sony 70-200 SSM .... is there any good alternative?
Hey guys wanna ask about an event telephoto lens ...
I was interested on 70-200 F2.8 lens for indoor events such as fashion show but doesn't meet the budget for Sony 70-200 SSM .... is there any good alternative?
sigma 70200 is very good...i think our bro Moo will suggest u later....
wingster : OMG this topic has been discussed over and over again. Tamron 70200 for better IQ but slower AF. Sigma 70200 for Faster AF with HSM but slightly lower IQ. Which for me, is unnoticeable.
Hey guys wanna ask about an event telephoto lens ...
I was interested on 70-200 F2.8 lens for indoor events such as fashion show but doesn't meet the budget for Sony 70-200 SSM .... is there any good alternative?
get the 55-200mm lens la...its f4-5.6...for my newbie usage..i find it quite an acceptable budget lens..maybe other sifus here might beg to defer...
wingster : OMG this topic has been discussed over and over again. Tamron 70200 for better IQ but slower AF. Sigma 70200 for Faster AF with HSM but slightly lower IQ. Which for me, is unnoticeable.
but two of them doesn't have focus limit as Sony G series does ... but is that important? I mean about the focus limit.... hence Tamron and Sigma doesn't have will have more slower AF times than Sony G 70-200 Lens？
This post has been edited by wingster: May 9 2010, 10:45 PM
I had the 70300G and never once used the AF lock. It's pretty hard to just get used to that button. So it's not a problem for me. Know what you wanna get in focus then you'll bot face any difficulties in focusing. (:
D90 really capture my interest for a long time now.
i think the battery grip would be cheap. new one is under RM300.
true, i tried play before, loving its fps, color and dynamic range here pic to compare D90 vs a350 ( i know d90 is way better than a350 , should be compared to a550 or a700 i think.. so juz to show pic )
no editing done, the color of D90 is way better, i donno if my fren tweak saturation but Dynamic Range is
[ D90 + Tamron18200 or 250 | 1/1000s | f/4.5 | ISO 250 ]
Hey guys wanna ask about an event telephoto lens ...
I was interested on 70-200 F2.8 lens for indoor events such as fashion show but doesn't meet the budget for Sony 70-200 SSM .... is there any good alternative?
IMHO if indoor, you may not need the 200mm. I would expect the maximum reach around 135 to 150mm be good enough for indoor. Hence, Sigma 50-150mm f2.8 II EX DC HSM APO is also another option.
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: May 9 2010, 10:49 PM
Hey guys wanna ask about an event telephoto lens ...
I was interested on 70-200 F2.8 lens for indoor events such as fashion show but doesn't meet the budget for Sony 70-200 SSM .... is there any good alternative?
how bout 50-150 sigma...???price around sub 3k if not mistaken....
mastering89 : Eh, abit unfair to compare like that le. Both settings all different. The alpha uses f13, surely less light lo, hence resulting in slight underexposure.
IMHO if indoor, you may not need the 200mm. I would expect the reach around 135 up to max 150mm be good enough for indoor. Hence, Sigma 50-150mm f2.8 II EX DC HSM APO is also another option.
yeah but I found I use often for 70mm,100mm, 135mm and 200mm for very close up shooting towards faces or brands like handbag, shoes and etc.
true, i tried play before, loving its fps, color and dynamic range here pic to compare D90 vs a350 ( i know d90 is way better than a350 , should be compared to a550 or a700 i think.. so juz to show pic )
no editing done, the color of D90 is way better, i donno if my fren tweak saturation but Dynamic Range is
[ D90 + Tamron18200 or 250 | 1/1000s | f/4.5 | ISO 250 ]
[a350 + KM24105 | 1/60s | f/13 | ISO 100 ]
bro...the comparison pic setting is different...thts y the dynamic range is different... personally i felt tht D90 got too saturated color but a350 is natural..
Hey guys wanna ask about an event telephoto lens ...
I was interested on 70-200 F2.8 lens for indoor events such as fashion show but doesn't meet the budget for Sony 70-200 SSM .... is there any good alternative?
I think the sigma will serve you okay, unless you love to look at ur photos at 100% crop. The softness at 200mm is not really noticeable , as I prefer the HSM over the screw driven Tamron.
Still, if budget is a concern, do consider the cheaper alternative of Tamron. But, I think the Sigma 50-150 is less than 3 k right? though its not meant for full frame.
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Just a noobie shot, don't feel the so called softness la. LOL.
hmmm..in my noobie opinion ur shutter too fast already..the wheels also totally frozen...so the picture dont show that the car is moving..more like parking on the tarmac...
but my assignment for event shooting was pretty rushing xD so after the event in short ... I need to import the RAW file into my computer and then export all the picture and then handle for them straight away already
This post has been edited by wingster: May 9 2010, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(neo_lam @ May 9 2010, 10:49 PM)
bro...the comparison pic setting is different...thts y the dynamic range is different... personally i felt tht D90 got too saturated color but a350 is natural..
so obvious the dynamic range kicked in so much...(the greens from the tree)
A7/55 can easily get the same image. and seriously, how to compare a D90 which can buy 2 set of A300...
yeah but I found I use often for 70mm,100mm, 135mm and 200mm for very close up shooting towards faces or brands like handbag, shoes and etc.
for indoor events, I doubt you'll need to stand soo far (say 80 or 100 meters) from your subject. Hence the suggestion that you will probably need the max reach to be 150mm. hence 50-150mm would fit your requirement IMHO.
for indoor events, I doubt you'll need to stand soo far (say 80 or 100 meters) from your subject. Hence the suggestion that you will probably need the max reach to be 150mm. hence 50-150mm would fit your requirement IMHO.
Hmm by the way which brand has the 50-150 range? Sigma and Tokina only? is the IQ nice compare with the 70-200 F2.8 lenses?
Kul | Mo0 : ya i know , but is the d90 color produced original like that or tweaked? but i love the dynamic range and fps... even in dark with shutter speed 1/50 fps is better than my a350. (yes i cant compare, i know )
neo_lam : hehe now i usually use vivid set saturation +2....
ieR : haha true, but now price go down already lagi make me fikir alot d90 d90 d90
This post has been edited by mastering89: May 9 2010, 10:59 PM
Kul | Mo0 : ya i know , but is the d90 color produced original like that or tweaked? but i love the dynamic range and fps... even in dark with shutter speed 1/50 fps is better than my a350. (yes i cant compare, i know )
neo_lam :
ieR : haha true, but now price go down already lagi make me fikir alot d90 d90 d90
neo_lam : hehe probably will stick to alpha, got nice people in alpha. Also not so many alpha users makes me feel special probably i would get complete set (need flash and VG first before thinking of change body)
mastering89: Nice! Now only if it was out of focus a bit to look like the background... the D90 shot is overexposed by 1/3rd of a stop (from the EXIF) and the umbrella has blown highlights.
The Alphas tend to save highlights when metering, hence you can still make out detail in the umbrella. The rest is just weaker DRO+ compared to ADL set to High. On the A450-A900 you can use DRO Level 5 to get the same effect of brighter midtones.
I have edited your A350 shot:
I pulled up the midtones to simulate ADL/DRO Level 5. Notice that the umbrella's highlights are still there.
Nice one on the bullet train!
fansoption: For #2 and #3 you still need to pick one subject.
wingster: The Tokina 50-135mm F2.8 is not in A-mount but it's okay since they haven't gotten round to making in-lens motors for A-mount. The Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 with HSM would be more appealing.
cassplayer: I like how your cars go the other way - could be one way to differentiate your shots from Kul | Mo0's!
Joined: Jan 2003
From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 9 2010, 10:56 PM)
Kul | Mo0 : ya i know , but is the d90 color produced original like that or tweaked? but i love the dynamic range and fps... even in dark with shutter speed 1/50 fps is better than my a350. (yes i cant compare, i know )
neo_lam : hehe now i usually use vivid set saturation +2....
ieR : haha true, but now price go down already lagi make me fikir alot d90 d90 d90
well, sadly, seriously, the A350 is to VS D60 and D3/5k ler... u cant take it to vs D90...
its like i go nikon group and take their D60/3/5k to VS the A550 ler... that is plain ignorance. dont do that. (but that will poison a lot of D60/3/5k user to the orange side LOL)
@cassplayer nice shot wei bro!! personally i like those shots where we can see those advertisements which are blurred...then u can get the feel of the sports car 'flying' past..
well, sadly, seriously, the A350 is to VS D60 and D3/5k ler... u cant take it to vs D90...
its like i go nikon group and take their D60/3/5k to VS the A550 ler... that is plain ignorance. dont do that. (but that will poison a lot of D60/3/5k user to the orange side LOL)
poison them with a550 with high ISO will even turn D90 user to orange region..lol
kevinwcw planning for flash, cobra the best for now .. Wanna know, for the f36 and f42 can both do wireless? love those strobing
albnok : oh, thank you... i seriously need learn basic post editing. now my shots juz edit use picasa or PS downloaded PS action. the train actually a miniature one at Tobu World Square
DRO in a350 is juz like adding noise only, not that much difference DRO+, DRO .
ieR : haha i know. i saw a700 body at japan selling only 49000 yen = rm 1800 if only i have more $$ at that time
hazril: That is exactly right! I loved the sunny blue skies of Kuching and the many pockets of green!
Kul | Mo0: DRO Level 5 only looks bad when you use it on a person who is in deep shadow. If you are in such a situation, use DRO Level 5 and increase your EV so that the faces are brightened. Supposing:
You can try this quite quickly - DRO Level 5, EV 0, and then DRO Level 5, EV +3. Major difference in the tonality. Let's say:
Sky = nearly highlight Face = shadow Black surface = dark shadow DRO works on shadows, pulling it up. This is quite like HDR minus the large radius unsharp mask.
If you did say +1 EV:
Sky = highlight Face = midtone Black surface = shadow DRO pulls only the shadow and doesn't affect the face that much.
If you use DxO Optics Pro for example, and you first set DxO Fill Light to Strong 150%, then you pull the EV up, you can see a big difference in how the face tones are affected.
Faces with DRO Level 5:
mastering89: This is the best tutorial you can read, about bringing up your midtones and how to mask them:
kevinwcw : no lah, used one.. a700 + 16105 = 80k yen a550 (used) = 59k yen
I wanna ask about DRO in a550 and above. i attend sony basic photography b4 and Mr John show slides.
how exactly is DRO level ++ works like if in this pic, does it light up all through out the image or just the dark area?? for example im taking picture of someone with background of like this image (sunset or sunrise). does it blow off the sunset/sunrise part , overexpose or juz correct one.. or should i still need flash ?? ~please ignore the dusts
hey where can i find T-shirt like that? (alphanatics? or custom made ) all i found was either plain, N's or C's
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This post has been edited by mastering89: May 9 2010, 11:48 PM
hmm just research about the Sigma 50-150mm.... well I found that 50-150 wasn't so famous ... but from certain review, it has a good sharpness image from 50~100mm likewise is more smaller + lighter and also can get it around RM2500~2700 while 70-200 HSM is around RM3xxx .... well a good consider about it xD
This post has been edited by wingster: May 9 2010, 11:43 PM
kevinwcw : no lah, used one.. a700 + 16105 = 80k yen a550 (used) = 59k yen
I wanna ask about DRO in a550 and above. i attend sony basic photography b4 and Mr John show slides.
how exactly is DRO level ++ works like if in this pic, does it light up all through out the image or just the dark area?? for example im taking picture of someone with background of like this image (sunset or sunrise). does it blow off the sunset/sunrise part , overexpose or juz correct one.. or should i still need flash ?? ~please ignore the dusts
i think DRO cannot pull out the details for such silhouette shot....
wingster: The difference in weight between the 50-150mm and the 70-200mm F2.8 is a lot! I can't wait for somebody to take the plunge and get this.
mastering89: DRO only brightens the shadows (read my reply to Kul | Mo0.)
DRO correctly exposes the highlights (meaning, without overexposing, unlike the Nikon D80 onwards, which has a tendency to make blacks become gray!) Everything else is brightened accordingly.
The shirt is an official Sony Alpha shirt - it comes with some packages of Alphas being sold. Some dealers even sell it with Alphas for dunno how much. You can often see salespeople at camera shops wearing this!
On a side note, more of these shirts were spotted here. Can't repost the pictures here as those aren't my pictures to begin with.
neo_lam: You could, in RAW.
This post has been edited by albnok: May 10 2010, 12:18 AM
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and the shirt, can be won from workshop too. i won my there. got top best photo from beginner workshop when i got my camera for 1 week... (brought the camera just to entry workshop 2 year back LOL)
wingster: The difference in weight between the 50-150mm and the 70-200mm F2.8 is a lot! I can't wait for somebody to take the plunge and get this.
mastering89: DRO only brightens the shadows (read my reply to Kul | Mo0.)
DRO correctly exposes the highlights (meaning, without overexposing, unlike the Nikon D80 onwards, which has a tendency to make blacks become gray!) Everything else is brightened accordingly.
The shirt is an official Sony Alpha shirt - it comes with some packages of Alphas being sold. Some dealers even sell it with Alphas for dunno how much. You can often see salespeople at camera shops wearing this!
neo_lam: You could, in RAW.
im considering the 50-150mm...just waiting to achieve my targeted funds....
and the shirt, can be won from workshop too. i won my there. got top best photo from beginner workshop when i got my camera for 1 week... (brought the camera just to entry workshop 2 year back LOL)
Hmm, they didn't give me a shirt ler =.= not fairrrr.. LOL.. in the end they gave me like speakers and lots of vouchers though.. thats like two years back also.. haha..
wingster: The difference in weight between the 50-150mm and the 70-200mm F2.8 is a lot! I can't wait for somebody to take the plunge and get this.
mastering89: DRO only brightens the shadows (read my reply to Kul | Mo0.)
DRO correctly exposes the highlights (meaning, without overexposing, unlike the Nikon D80 onwards, which has a tendency to make blacks become gray!) Everything else is brightened accordingly.
The shirt is an official Sony Alpha shirt - it comes with some packages of Alphas being sold. Some dealers even sell it with Alphas for dunno how much. You can often see salespeople at camera shops wearing this!
On a side note, more of these shirts were spotted here. Can't repost the pictures here as those aren't my pictures to begin with.
neo_lam: You could, in RAW.
izit full with noise?? coz the subject is like totally in shadow...
u so pro...how much is ur lens?..i only have 18-55 kit lens..can do like yours? wow...i wish to learn to capture it like that.. u all so pro..
ahping, the 18-55 kit lens is a good lens. With good lighting, it can capture very beautiful pictures. The F1 shots by the guys are called "panning" shots. Of course can learn... slowly but surely can learn. Yeah, so many pro here la... Arent we lucky? I myself feel very lucky to get to know them and they also very generous in sharing their knowledge with noobies like us... Alpha community rocks
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QUOTE(readone_sapi @ May 10 2010, 09:13 AM)
my pic sepam using my trusted sp90.. took yesterday when playing with water droplet...
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CnC are welcome. Thanks for viewing...
hadoiyyaaiy... ini bukan spam... ini racun Nice shot... B&W menambahkan dramatik ... Penataan cahaya dari sebelah kanan pun nice. Thanks for sharing cikgu readone_sapi
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: May 10 2010, 09:46 AM
@epito refer first page price should at that range
@zstan with proper lightning, kit lens also produce very nice colour/sharpness, if you go alpha workshop before, you will notice some of the photo is taken with sal1870
zstan : It definitely creates sharp images if you really know how to use your lens paired with your body. You always say you using kitlens only, and it sucks and stuffs. So just letting you know la.
@moo haha...quite true..actually pretty much depends on the settings used & timing & composition as well...quite evident between the universal studios shot and wonka's flowers and sunset..both using kitlens...but wonka's pics got this 'wow' factor while the theme park shot was rather.....erm...'normal' to me? still finding what wonders u were refering too... my noobie opinion lar....=)
@neo_lam i already have f58am...although ddidn't fully maximise it..=/
zstan, fast go grab ur a100 and pro lens, ppl use what you follow, totally loosing ur own character without trying your own instead of non stop asking n ask & ask and ask
in fact, this is the best example entry cam with high quality shot. Excellent!
Kacau time... @jimlin007 I feel that ur picture colour is quite... Dull?? Just like not very attractive. I dunno how to help u but just my comment. hahahaha... PTPTNPTPTNPTPTNPTPTPTPTPTPTN
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ May 10 2010, 04:25 PM)
Kacau time... @jimlin007 I feel that ur picture colour is quite... Dull?? Just like not very attractive. I dunno how to help u but just my comment. hahahaha... PTPTNPTPTNPTPTNPTPTPTPTPTPTN
oh ya... underexposed is the term
This post has been edited by IwanAGP: May 10 2010, 04:25 PM
Kacau time... @jimlin007 I feel that ur picture colour is quite... Dull?? Just like not very attractive. I dunno how to help u but just my comment. hahahaha... PTPTNPTPTNPTPTNPTPTPTPTPTPTN
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oh ya... underexposed is the term
haha thanks bro for your valuable comment, i will correct and self esteem in future shot of the exposure setting
@lwliam haha.thanks...change topic now..is the white balance in this pic correct?cause i took like..5 same pictures..using different temperatures..liked this 'mood' the most though...
@jim yeap..quite dull..one of the pic looks..wrong...like wanting to shoot under the skirt..=P
@cassplayer nice car.haha
Added on May 10, 2010, 4:32 pm@neo_lam wa..they want shoot movie a?so many people one. nice!
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jim : i think u need to work on ur composition...some got potential but u terpotong here and there...some are OOF...do keep up snapping...in the end u will produce good images...
@lwliam haha.thanks...change topic now..is the white balance in this pic correct?cause i took like..5 same pictures..using different temperatures..liked this 'mood' the most though...
@jim yeap..quite dull..one of the pic looks..wrong...like wanting to shoot under the skirt..=P
@cassplayer nice car.haha
Added on May 10, 2010, 4:32 pm@neo_lam wa..they want shoot movie a?so many people one. nice!
haha thanks bro for your valuable comment, i will correct and self esteem in future shot of the exposure setting
O_o what has it got to do with self esteem????????? @_@
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 10 2010, 04:31 PM)
@lwliam haha.thanks...change topic now..is the white balance in this pic correct?cause i took like..5 same pictures..using different temperatures..liked this 'mood' the most though...
i normally take a pic not to please other ppl, i take a pic to please myself... if i find the so-called 'mood' of a pic the way i want it, to hell what other ppl say about it... its my pic, i like it and thats how its going to stay..
if u think its nice, then i guess to yourself, it is nice...
This post has been edited by lwliam: May 10 2010, 04:39 PM
LOL it's getting weirder in here. Yea I also take what I feel is nice. If you don't like my shot then, good for you lo. Hope you will get a better shot lo. As long as I'm happy and satisfied with my shot. (:
LOL it's getting weirder in here. Yea I also take what I feel is nice. If you don't like my shot then, good for you lo. Hope you will get a better shot lo. As long as I'm happy and satisfied with my shot. (:
then can start hauling more lenses.....laarriiikkk!!!
the best person to critic your picture is your own self....
jim : i think u need to work on ur composition...some got potential but u terpotong here and there...some are OOF...do keep up snapping...in the end u will produce good images...
thank bro, exposure we could have many tries. but composition really tough and is depend how creative we are
hazril : Yea definitely. No la. Seriously no income very hard to get lenses anymore. Small items maybe la. Even a used F42 is really a challenge for me now. Now targeting a better neck strap and a Phottix battery and maybe some Eneloop in the future.
hazril : Yea definitely. No la. Seriously no income very hard to get lenses anymore. Small items maybe la. Even a used F42 is really a challenge for me now. Now targeting a better neck strap and a Phottix battery and maybe some Eneloop in the future.
im also looking for a better neck strap...maybe going for lowepro or kata....
QUOTE(cassplayer @ May 10 2010, 04:46 PM)
Mo0 : Where's your spot for getting sugar mommy's? I also want. Need some income now
less practice need more self esteem to remember setting
aduhh... last from mine spam, habis peluru laboratory exam shot
actually i was pointing out that its a wrong usage of the word 'self esteem', so is the 2nd time u used the word... perhaps u can try finding out the meaning of the word 1st?
zstan : Your cat series using pop up flash right? Definitely harsh light spotted there. Try placing some tissue paper in front of your flash next time to diffuse it a little. (: And nah no to Matin. I would trust something more establish to support my heavy set-up.
cassplayer & hazril : Hardwork la! Part time jobs and free lance jobs lo. Easy for me cause no need to pay for housing or car loan ma. So remainder of allowance + part time jobs = hauls lo. (:
zstan : Your cat series using pop up flash right? Definitely harsh light spotted there. Try placing some tissue paper in front of your flash next time to diffuse it a little. (: And nah no to Matin. I would trust something more establish to support my heavy set-up.
cassplayer & hazril : Hardwork la! Part time jobs and free lance jobs lo. Easy for me cause no need to pay for housing or car loan ma. So remainder of allowance + part time jobs = hauls lo. (:
yeapz...my flash haven't arrived that time..actually some didn't really use flash at all...haha..as i said..for my kit lens..still quite light..ur baby Zeiss of course deserves much more better.
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QUOTE(hazril @ May 10 2010, 04:55 PM)
im using the matin strap currently but it seems too short to my liking...need to find a longer one...later jd like ironman v3 like william said...
oh..what length u prefer?
This post has been edited by zstan: May 10 2010, 04:56 PM
hazril : Waster la I let go the RM110 R-strap. Regretting until now. ): But got super deal for my Streetwalker that will make you again. XD
zstan : What you talking suddenly all zeiss and stuffs? I mean in your cat photos, those that use pop up flash. Just cover the flash with few layers of tissue la. OMG!
This post has been edited by Kul | Mo0: May 10 2010, 04:57 PM
hazril : Waster la I let go the RM110 R-strap. Regretting until now. ): But got super deal for my Streetwalker that will make you again. XD
zstan : What you talking suddenly all zeiss and stuffs? I mean in your cat photos, those that use pop up flash. Just cover the flash with few layers of tissue la. OMG!
nonono..u were saying that u won rely on matin for your heavy gears ma!@_@
This post has been edited by zstan: May 10 2010, 04:59 PM
length that i can sling across my chest....at least i can adjust the length to my likings...when i hang the camera around my neck the camera just at my chest...
QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 10 2010, 04:56 PM)
cassplayer : Crumpler only RM 55 IINM le.
hazril : Waster la I let go the RM110 R-strap. Regretting until now. ): But got super deal for my Streetwalker that will make you again. XD
zstan : What you talking suddenly all zeiss and stuffs? I mean in your cat photos, those that use pop up flash. Just cover the flash with few layers of tissue la. OMG!
aik...why did u sell the strap...???and selling again ur bag...???what the...????
I didnt even got the strap. And seems like you got the story wrong le. TT I'll tell story again. LOL.
hahahha, u told it wrongly la bro.. u said jz now, u let go the strap, then u regret till now... from our point of looking at it, is that you bought it, then u sold off the strap again....
This post has been edited by lwliam: May 10 2010, 05:08 PM
I didnt even got the strap. And seems like you got the story wrong le. TT I'll tell story again. LOL.
QUOTE(lwliam @ May 10 2010, 05:08 PM)
hahahha, u told it wrongly la bro.. u said jz now, u let go the strap, then u regret till now... from our point of looking at it, is that you bought it, then u sold off the strap again....
see...even william understood ur statement like i did...i slap ur forehead baru tau....
lwliam & hazril : Hahaha paiseh then. Louya punye english. Still using the standard a700 strap which is still much better than the standard entry level straps. LOL.
cassplayer : Go get it! I wont cause it's too thick and very hot!
zstan : I thought he said he has one already? If not how he take all those F1 panning shots? :s
This post has been edited by Kul | Mo0: May 10 2010, 05:13 PM
lwliam & hazril : Hahaha paiseh then. Louya punye english. Still using the standard a700 strap which is still much better than the standard entry level straps. LOL.
cassplayer : Go get it! I wont cause it's too thick and very hot!
zstan : I thought he said he has one already? If not how he take all those F1 panning shots? :s
If he can use a 5MPX camera phone to take photos like that. All SLR users can go die wei. LOL. No point buying lenses and high end bodies. Cause a camera phone enough dy. (:
If he can use a 5MPX camera phone to take photos like that. All SLR users can go die wei. LOL. No point buying lenses and high end bodies. Cause a camera phone enough dy. (:
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