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post Feb 15 2010, 01:18 AM, updated 16y ago

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Welcome to V37!!!!!!!!!

Previous thread (V36)>>>HERE<<<
Previous thread (V35)>>>HERE<<<
Previous thread (V34)>>>HERE<<<

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Sony Alpha User List :

A100
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A200
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A300
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A350
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A700
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A900
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New Sony Alpha Line-up Userlist

A230
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A330
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A380
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A500
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A550
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A850
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p.m. me if you wanna add ur name icon_rolleyes.gif

>>>Sony Alpha F.A.Q<<< courtesy of Ahmike

Common Kelvin White Balance Settings :
2500K - very strong orange tungsten light
2800K - strong orange tungsten light
3200K - yellowish tungsten light
4500K M6 - flourescent light (most flourescent tubes are green even though our eyes don't see it)
5500K - flash
6500K - daylight (or daylight-balanced flourescent light)
9900K - strong blue stage lighting or evening light

Xenon lighting is rare but that should be between 7000-9000K.

Whenever you enter a new situation that has different WB, just set your Kelvin WB again and test with one shot. You

should be able to do this with practice.

With the Sony A300 and A350, you can use Live View and see the effect of changing Kelvin WB... live!

M = Magenta
G = Green
2500K = Blue
9900K = Amber

Take a picture. Supposing the picture is very Green, you need to add the opposite which is Magenta. If the picture is

too Blue you need to go closer to Amber. So if the picture is very blue-green-ish, you will need to go closer to 9900K

M9.

To prevent the built-in flash from appearing in pictures when in wireless flash mode, you can use any of these

methods, or a combination of them:

- use a darker aperture (e.g. F11)
- use a lower ISO (e.g. ISO100)
- use a shutter speed faster than your flash sync speed so that High Speed Sync is activated (e.g. 1/320th of a

second)
- use a piece of exposed, developed negative film in front of your pop-up flash

Sony Alpha Lens Line-up : HERE courtesy of vcxv

Below are the official additional accessories* that comes with respective Sony Alpha camera :

Flash hotshoe cover (Sony FASHC1AM) - A100, A700, A900
Remote Commander clip - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700, A900
Eyepiece cover / flash hotshoe cover holder - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700
Cheap Sony neckstrap vmad.gif - A200, A300, A350
Good Sony neckstrap - A100, A700, A900
Wireless Infrared Remote Control - A700, A900

* list provided by albnok

Sony Alpha Support Page and Alpha User Manuals :

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How to clean your Alpha sensor by albnok :



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post Feb 15 2010, 01:20 AM

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as usual, Alpha users who wants the userbar..

A100 : image url : http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2687/alpha100cb9.png

A200 : user posted image
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A300 : user posted image
image url : http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6001/alpha300hy4.png

A350 : user posted image
image url : http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7979/alpha350nr1.png

A700 : user posted image
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A900 : user posted image
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New Alpha line-up userbar

A230 : user posted image
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A330 : user posted image
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A380 : user posted image
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A550 : user posted image
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A850 : user posted image
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Imageshack is having problem with their server(s) and older userbars are not showing.. i've emailed them and they are looking into the problem

Some useful link :

Tamron/Sigma/Sony/Minolta 70-200mm F2.8 Shootout
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1243

Ultra Wide Comparison
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1324

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Alpha street pricelist ***updated 13th January 2010***

Camera
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Sony A200 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM15xx - Discontinued
Sony A200 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 = RM18xx - Discontinued
Sony A230 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM17xx
Sony A300 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM18xx - Discontinued
Sony A300 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT = RM22xx - Discontinued
Sony A330 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM20xx
Sony A350 body only = RM20xx - Discontinued
Sony A350 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM23xx - Discontinued
Sony A350 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT = RM26xx - Discontinued
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM24xx
Sony A700 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM33xx
Sony A550 body only = RM26xx
Sony A500 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM3250 (NEW)
Sony A550 + 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM40xx (NEW)
Sony A850 body only = RM61xx
Sony A900 body only = RM73xx (Studio Zaloon)

The following suffixes identify what lens comes with the camera body:

G = Sony 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DT
K = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT
L = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM
P = Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT
Q = Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM
W = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6
X = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT
Y = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT (2) SAM
Z = Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA


Battery Grip
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Sony VG-B30AM for A200/A300/A350 = RM6xx
Sony VG-C70AM battery grip for A700 = RM9xx
Sony VG-C90AM for A900 = RM9xx

Flash
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Sony HVL-F20AM = RM4xx
Sony HVL-F42AM = RM7xx
Sony HVL-F58AM = RM11xx

Sony/Minolta Used Lenses
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Minolta 28mm F2.8 = RM450-600
Minolta 35-70 F4 (mini beercan) = RM250-400
Minolta 50mm F1.4 = RM750-850
Minolta 50mm F1.7 = RM450-600
Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT = RM450-550
Minolta 70-210mm F4 (beercan) = RM750-1100
Minolta 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 (big beercan) = RM1000-1500
Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 = RM450-550

New APS-C / DT Crop Lenses
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Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM20xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA = RM25xx
Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM16xx
Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM16xx
Sony 30mm F2.8 DT SAM Macro = RM7xx (NEW)
Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM5xx
Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Macro = RM30xx

New Full-Frame Lenses
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Sony 16mm F2.8 Diagonal Fisheye = RM25xx
Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM19xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM18xx
Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM8xx
Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM = RM26xx (NEW)
Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM45xx
Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM10xx
Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM14xx
Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro = RM30xx
Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro = RM38xx
Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM54xx
Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM25xx
Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA = RM50xx
Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM23xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA = RM48xx
Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM36xx
Sony 500mm F8.0 AF Reflex = RM25xx
Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20xxx
Sony 1.4x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Sony 2.0x Teleconverter = RM15xx
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post Feb 15 2010, 01:24 AM

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FIRST!!! tongue.gif

So... anybody got tips for catching bugs for macro...

daylight or night?

the bugs keep running away from me.. even the spider run to other side of leaf doh.gif
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2nd!
spam again.. any comment?

Raw rubber
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err.. what's this called?
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they way u appoarch them scares them, usually some insect are more alert at night, some sleep at night... u have to know them... bee sleep at night. etc
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QUOTE(Ksano @ Feb 15 2010, 01:24 AM)
FIRST!!!  tongue.gif

So... anybody got tips for catching bugs for macro...

daylight or night?

the bugs keep running away from me.. even the spider run to other side of leaf  doh.gif
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i always do it at day, yeah, some kind bugs just cant stop running!
at night i afraid it will be hard to manual focus cause cant see clearly.. tongue.gif
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lehtung: I feel the Raw Rubber shot is a bit miscomposed - you could get a real nice tiling effect, if framed correctly. I can't figure out what #2 is but if it's rusted metal I think it would've looked better in color.

braindead_fr3ak: I am looking forward to your project!

For inspiration, go down to Annexe Gallery behind Central Market - you can see real photos with meaning there. There's always one exhibition or another.

It is one thing to take a picture that makes your eyes stim, and another thing to take a picture that can change the world! I'd choose the latter.
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Yup yup... ill keep u updated... am having many ideas for the the series... but figuring out which elements to include and exclude to bring forth the intended meaning..... is not easy... O_O... already month 5 since i first thought of it and not one shot is made yet....

i have sketches of my ideas though..ahahha.. owh well...lets see how it turns out...sometimes...what you lack...your chosen model provides unexpectedly...

yep yep..lets change the world...alpha style...NG...here i come..wohooooooooo


Added on February 15, 2010, 1:41 amabout ANNEXE....definitely will go... i enjoy walking around street painters in central market...seeing how they capture their image which has to be done FROM SCRATCH with nothing but their imagination as tools......is a humbling experience...

we are spoilt with our cameras..ahahhah

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wahh... v37 oredi.. biggrin.gif

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lehtung & ieR : Thanks tongue.gif ... Guess true macro would not scare the bug much because of Minimum Focus Distance is longer than beercan + raynox smile.gif

Albnok : But how to educate the viewers who more interested with eye candy things? (educate me too tongue.gif)

Just like when look at the gallery pictures... sometime by looking at the pictures alone and the title only cant give me any idea whats the picture is all about (some of it) unless there's some info provided about the situation..
Like example the picture of a "low cast girl playing piano in a special school".. without the text I doubt people will understand the situation at all and just assume it is just a picture of a girl playing piano..

And also the picture of a man and woman eating but the shadow shows like they are pointing weapon to their head like want to commit suicide.. are the pictures heavily PPed?

A lot of question and confusion came in my mind when I look at those pictures.. sweat.gif

I really need to understand more about these world of photography hmm.gif
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 15 2010, 01:36 AM)
lehtung: I feel the Raw Rubber shot is a bit miscomposed - you could get a real nice tiling effect, if framed correctly. I can't figure out what #2 is but if it's rusted metal I think it would've looked better in color.

braindead_fr3ak: I am looking forward to your project!

For inspiration, go down to Annexe Gallery behind Central Market - you can see real photos with meaning there. There's always one exhibition or another.

It is one thing to take a picture that makes your eyes stim, and another thing to take a picture that can change the world! I'd choose the latter.
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can suggest a better framing?
i'm weak in composing.. cry.gif

#2 is those metal pieces which used to make roof..
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KSANO : dont worry...art procures a different reaction from different individuals..... it is ur experiences, ur life , your memories and your thoughts that influence what you perceive in any form of art... be it paintings, sculptures, or photographs....


an example would be a doctor who sees an image of a decapitated head, might perceive an accident or a tragedy...whereas if a politician looked at the same photo, a decapitated head might represent a Coup d'état or the fall of an organisation...forgive the morose and cadaveric explainations... hahahhaha...

most of the time, we tend to miss the artists true intention because of this....but what can we do?.. now that is debatable!
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wow, it's v37. Pretty fast yo' =D
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braindead_fr3ak: Always good to have an idea in your head. Actually, I bet a lot of us would paint better paintings, than photograph better photographs - it is easy to add to a painting, but not easy to subtract from a scene.

And whoa, what a nice analogy!

akumirul: Here's a challenge - make your cars look real. You can, with the right angle. GO! biggrin.gif

Ksano: That is a good question. I purposely didn't want to say "EH GUYS GUESS WHAT IS MISSING IN THIS PICTURE!" I wanted to see if anyone noticed... and nobody did.

Maybe it's the crowd here - maybe if I posted on PhotoMalaysia they'd be like "ooo, something is missing!"

I purposely framed the signboard so it looks like a full signboard. If I stepped to the left or right, the signboard would look obviously slanted on top, so you know I was cropping it off. But I guess it was my fault, to make the picture too cryptic, unless I pointed it out, nobody would notice.

"Apa yang best sangat apasal gambar ini kat Galeri Petronas?"

Think! There is a reason that each and every picture is there. They don't simply point at anything, submit, and win.

For the low caste girl (I don't remember such a picture) the photographer could've looked for hints to add to the picture. For example, low-caste-looking parents sitting outside waiting for their daughter. Or maybe she should be wearing old shoes.

Yes, those in the Commercial category were Photoshopped. Most commercial work has to be.

lehtung: Just keep at it. Go wide, go tele, go close, go far, try everything until you find something that works.

Or better still, stand far away, and wait for a worker to walk past. Imagine, a big wall of Raw Rubber, and suddenly there is a worker going there to take just one piece away... what an awesome picture, right?

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albnok: thx... i will try biggrin.gif thumbup.gif

lugamcg: yeah... as fast as the lightning... tongue.gif laugh.gif
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some nice reading info tonite.... biggrin.gif

my fren asked me what lens is suitable for food photography...any suggestions...???

p/s:braindead,u got pm... smile.gif
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albnok : not all of us did not notice... smile.gif...... well anologies , quotable quotes and deductions only bring you so far... its time to APPLY smile.gif...... most of the time...whats in my head doesnt not come out of my camera due to......uhm discrepancies between my experience level....oh well..

. finished 40% of round 1 of that small square white book today...and i would have to thank ier for the "restaurant " FG BG whitebalance training.... it was a much needed explaination that popped so many free floating fragments to ONE Solid piece..ahahah..... but the seed to that was planted by our very own IT photographer no? smile.gif
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Congrats V37 oledi.

Foods shot with A200 + 50mm. Nice combo smile.gif

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Albnok : "Maybe it's the crowd here - maybe if I posted on PhotoMalaysia they'd be like "ooo, something is missing!""

we alpharians dither too much on technicalities, rules and eye candy rather than exploring the deeper nuances of what it means to be a photographer.............. agree?...

but how can we change this perception.. it definitely started with our own alphanatics contest.... but for some..especially those new to expressing themselves through the lens.......it takes time to attune to the machinery...

and given that..how do we justify the wedding phtgrpher, the portraitist, or even the street phtghrper who CHURN out pictures, either at junk food or eye candy quality?.....when these are the individuals rewarded by society rather than those who seek the untrodden path , to produce something that.... just-a-glance...might seem worthless....but if contemplated....produces a wealth of contemplation and self exploration.??


Added on February 15, 2010, 2:51 amforgive me guys...today i am in a somewhat whimsical mood.....

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