Alright, few of them just won themselves few days of vacation. There's no need to congratulate a new thread.
Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V40!, The Orange Legion
Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V40!, The Orange Legion
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May 8 2010, 03:26 PM
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Alright, few of them just won themselves few days of vacation. There's no need to congratulate a new thread.
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May 9 2010, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 9 2010, 04:08 PM) hmmm... I feel being left behind la. Getting left behind just because you don't own ALL the lenses will not make you the worse photographer in this world. Many already have more than 1 kit lens, macro lens, zoom lens, UWA lens, fish eye lens, prime F1.8 , F1.4 .... waaaa me until now still using 1 lens... A550 + 1680Z kit lens Getting left behind cause you waste most of your time dreaming when will you able to afford this, why some people can afford this, why are you still with kit lens this and that bla bla instead of using that precious time to improve on your shots will certainly make you one of the worst photographer in this world. This post has been edited by vikingw2k: May 9 2010, 04:14 PM |
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May 9 2010, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(amadeo @ May 9 2010, 04:26 PM) true lah.. i only use max 3 lense for all of my wedding assignment and still kicking ass.. Owning a A900 wouldn't make your the best photographer compared to when you are owning a lousy 16-80 kit lens. To me, doesn't matter how many lenses you own or use. The main concern is it shouldn't be a measurement tool to determine whether you are left out in photography or not. |
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May 9 2010, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(hazril @ May 9 2010, 04:42 PM) now CZ is considered lousy kitlens guys... It's not a constant aperture lens and the highest aperture available is only f3.5. It protrudes when it zooms. It's not weather sealed. It doesn't have SSM. It's pricy. I will take CZ 24-70 f2.8 SSM anytime than this overpriced plastic feel 16-80. Added on May 9, 2010, 4:54 pm QUOTE(wingster @ May 9 2010, 04:46 PM) seriously .... 16-80CZ has lousy built but superb optical =.= and it was a great lens however why people do call it as lousy or not a good performance kit lens? Indeed. When I first hold it in my hands. I was like wtf, pay so much for such a cheapo build. I was expecting the same feel like when I use my friend's CZ 24-70.This post has been edited by vikingw2k: May 9 2010, 04:54 PM |
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May 9 2010, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(kevinwcw @ May 9 2010, 04:56 PM) viking Obviously you will feel your lens is superb cause you are owning it. It's a common mentality to many. Once you move up to a better one, you will then realize how good it is. no offense here...this theory may make me think only super damm rich people can play DSLR... i am owning 1680cz...i think it was a superb lens no matter in build quality or the IQ...quite statisfy with it..Great lens on APSC QUOTE(albnok @ May 9 2010, 04:57 PM) Ah, but the 16-80mm is compact and very sharp. What can you get for RM2300 with the same aperture, compact size and focal length? Which is why, IMO, I would rather stay with a Tammy 17-50mm f2.8 and take the leap straight to CZ 24-70 rather than go somewhere in the middle and yet still stuck with a non constant aperture lens like what my friend did. |
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May 9 2010, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(albnok @ May 9 2010, 05:09 PM) The Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 is a lot chunkier, and it has its fair share of build quality problems also (loose front part). Some people prefer range over the average 1 stop of light. Chunkier? I doubt that. Their size is almost the same and in fact, Tammy is lighter than CZ16-80. Tammy's build quality problem? I suppose it depends and not all are like that. Just like moo's 16-80. Certainly not all 16-80 are loose like that right? QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 9 2010, 05:19 PM) The only thing I don't like about the CZ1680 is that, I don't know how to say it in the proper terms but when you tilt it toward the ground, the lens would just zoom out without realising. This post has been edited by vikingw2k: May 9 2010, 05:24 PM |
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May 9 2010, 05:42 PM
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May 9 2010, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 9 2010, 05:43 PM) Oops, I read too fast. I meant the first version. Second version is not available for Sony which is why I'm confused why albnok put it into the weight comparison between 16-80 and Tammy. |
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May 9 2010, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 9 2010, 05:48 PM) To me, the differences isn't that significant. Which is why I rather go for the previous version before making a bigger leap. QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 9 2010, 05:51 PM) I dont think I will trade my 1680Z for Tamron 17-50mm F2.4. But of course different people have different requirements and/or opinion. Trading your 1680Z for Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 is a joke unless you don't mind losing to depreciation. Since you already bought your CZ1680, just live with it. I was only saying that given a choice, I would rather stick to a Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 rather than CZ1680 and make a bigger leap in future. Either that or I would rather stay with my SAL18-70 considering the CZ1680's price VS performance isn't that justifiable.Added on May 9, 2010, 5:57 pmNo, it would be better if you could post the pictures here instead of linking. This post has been edited by vikingw2k: May 9 2010, 05:57 PM |
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May 9 2010, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(hazril @ May 9 2010, 06:55 PM) whats the term use when people start to worry about their gear than the output ehh...???i forgot la.... Seriously I guess you don't know what yourself are mumbling about other than trying to barge in to provoke people. We were discussing about CZ1680 vs Tammy 17-50mm f2.8 and CZ24-70 and here you are going way off topic mentioning about people worrying about gear and than output? Also, I did mentioned 'given a choice, IMO' and I believe those clearly stated that it was my on opinion that I would prefer to upgrade to Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 and straight to CZ24-70 rather than going to CZ1680. Did I ask everyone to just jump blindly to CZ2470 and all other lenses are junk? I didn't right? Stop poking your nose and making a fool out of yourself when me and several others are discussing and comparing in a proper manner if la 24-70 price like so cheap and the way u saying it like we are all here so rich...what to do la kan..... can relate to bolded statement...???no....??? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « regards, 1870 kitlens user.... |
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May 17 2010, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 17 2010, 12:03 AM) Someone quitting Alpha and selling his Tammy 70-200mm f2.8. That would help you to save up a little. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1425441 |
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May 17 2010, 01:49 AM
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May 17 2010, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(hazril @ May 17 2010, 10:44 AM) The bigger magnification ratio the more zoom. Example 5:1 ratio. ![]() QUOTE(ieR @ May 17 2010, 12:59 PM) sigh, so bad mood today, last night i acciendentally broke my friend's F58's wide panel + front glass + batt cover... sigh, now need to pay him new one... ahhhhhhhh can everyone sponsor me rm10? Any pictures? QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 17 2010, 02:34 PM) 70200G and 135CZ I dream only la... haha Someone selling his Tammy 70-200mm f2.8. Pretty good for stage performance. Discard the 100mm f2.8. It's pretty useless for stage performance. At the moment, my preference (in no particular order) 1- Tamron 70200F2.8 2- Sony SAL100F2.8 Macro The 100F2.8 Macro has AF that is slow (from what I hear la). But is the slow AF during macro only or for non macro too? How slow is the slow AF ? Useable for stage performance ? anyone? any other primes choice? |
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May 17 2010, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 17 2010, 02:57 PM) Yesh especially to macro kakis. Bigger magnification ratio will bring you to another world of macro instead of the common macro shots that you see. Anyway for starters, you might wanna get ya hands on Raynox filters. QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 17 2010, 02:57 PM) vikingw2k : We don't need any MPE-65 poison! ROAR! LOL, smart fella. I didn't bother to mention which lens also la. Don't want to poison him kaw kaw but you go and mention it. |
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May 17 2010, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 17 2010, 03:09 PM) I like the prime for its weight... very convenient, not heavy. The priority goes to which is more suitable for event shooting. Obviously Tammy is a better choice. If you want light weight might as well just shoot with 50mm.the Sony SAL100F2.8 Macro is 510g whilst the Tamron 70200F2.8 is 1112g I think you guys are right... the Tamron is a much better choice. The Tammy gives you the flexibility that you'll need to zoom in and out which is crucial to cover an event. |
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May 17 2010, 03:36 PM
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May 17 2010, 03:46 PM
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May 17 2010, 03:51 PM
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May 17 2010, 03:57 PM
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May 17 2010, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 17 2010, 04:03 PM) One of the forumers. Crazy bugger. QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ May 17 2010, 04:36 PM) This is bolehland, anything boleh happen. |
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