Good soundproofing may not mean good NVH. You can only confirm it with a test drive through various everyday conditions.

Besides, soundproofing from human voices alone cannot justify the good soundproofing tag, you need to test it at other frequencies and at higher decibels.

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Added on December 24, 2011, 1:08 amAgreed.

This post has been edited by gregy: Dec 24 2011, 01:08 AM

If 105k for 1.8, it might fail too.
Some so called features r not really useful. I would prefer cheaper car, n safety features intact, n remove those useless 1 like sun roof, big sport rims, GPS? haha....
Sell it at 95k would be in the competition with forte 2.0, inspira and grab some sales from those looking for vios n city.

This post has been edited by ahsam1212: Dec 24 2011, 01:23 AM

105k for Elantra 1.8 sounds expensive...

We have relative comparison, I am just giving one example out of many.

What can I say, it's hard to please the whole crowd, it might be useless to some people, but some people make buying decision based on these 'useless' accessory.

'Sonata no GPS? Aiya I go see Camry instead then', happened before.

That's what everybody said about RM143k when Sonata YF came out.

This post has been edited by FluidicSculpture: Dec 24 2011, 08:06 AM

105k for 1.8 elantra is fine for me..that is a reasonable price..

but definitely not 110k...ppl will upgrade to civic

for those who has never owned a hyundai or planning for the hyundais and are complaining about the pricing and etc etc, well you just don't know how good the quality the hyundai is and how friendly certain hyundai SC is.

friends of mine and myself who are hyundai owners are very satisfied with the quality and service of both car & SC. Way better than T & H.

however i do agreed certain hyundai models are poor, eg atos. the good ones are Matrix, Sonata, Elantra, SantaFE, Starex and Tucson. These are from owners feedback.

as for FC being poor, if you understand the history of hyundai of that past era and its designs then, you will understand the reasons for poor FC.

heavier than its compeitiors, well built + low cc engines = high FC.

most hyundais were sold in other parts of the world with high cc engines while Malaysia due to its tax structure, received the low cc engines.

comparing kia and hyundai pricing & specs, do you understand how Naza works and do you understand how the rest in the industry work? they are playing on different levels. so don't compare, its not apple to apple.

Btw, Elantra specs are out (click on pics in the link): http://funtastickodesign.wordpress.com/201...dai-elantra-md/

That is the same tentative spec sheet I got weeks ago. I have since summarized it in my prelaunch booking thread.

simply price it at "IF you really want a market in Malaysia?".

Answer that I'm seeing from the recent Tucson, Santa Fe and Sonata is..... NOPE.

btw, Kia's price < Hyundai....fact.

However, I'm pleased that they dare offer the 5 years warranty that NO cheapskate monopolizing Japanese carmakers are willing....

I just want Hyundai to buckle up their service centre and foreman skills.

Is there an option to choose either Hyundai or Inokom logo when order the car?

It's official. All New Kia Optima K5 is selling at RM143,888 OTR for private registration in Peninsular Malaysia.

Same as the Sonata 2.0?

How many of you actually owned Toyota's in the 1st place? Ive been with Toyota for the past 8.5 years.

Does Hyundai SC open till 11pm for you to collect your vehicle just to enable you to attend an urgent meeting the next day?

Does Hyundai replace a faulty fuel pump after 7 yrs just by saying 'this part was never supposed to break down hence we'll give you a new one despite the warranty period being long over"?

Does Hyundai offer you free wiper blades, filters, etc just cuz they delayed your service a few hours?

Does Hyundai offer you car washes, engine washes & windscreen chemical washes FOC?

If your answers to these questions are NO then its pretty obvious that the Koreans have a long way to go before catching up with the Japs. Yes i admit there will always be horror stories bout poor service and build quality but look at things generally. What ive mentioned above was not experienced at just 1 service centre.

So before you generalise and say that Hyundai SC standards are way better than T&H, check yer facts. My wife has a Korean make and so im well aware bout their servicing standards.

The Koreans are surely improving and i hope that one day they will be on par with the Japs but that isnt the case now and wont be for the next couple of years. They may have better designs, specs and maybe even build quality but their servicing standards in Malaysia are still way off.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 24 2011, 12:00 PM

lol, talking about service, I rather have a better car than a better service.

Just my 2 cents.

+1.
It is called goodwill,veli hard to get & keep. Potong once had it but loses it kaw-2,now uphill to gain bck.Tranlsate to $,goodwill worth quite a lot.
Many so-call youngsters don't get tis & keep questioning "why".

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Added on December 24, 2011, 2:27 pmTats y not easi to built good cars,balance is the word.A tank is safe but u 1 it 4 daily use?
It is an art Jap mastered so well.They don over/under engineer,give u ngam-2 & hit the sweet spot.
Hopefully current Korean catching up,don let Jap monopolise.

This post has been edited by sct: Dec 24 2011, 02:27 PM

I just got news that Elantra will be out AFTER chinese new year.

see if my source is correct then...hahahaah.....
so for you "excited" folks... that's your period.

After CNY? Is it 24-30 Jan2012?
Guess is early Feb

price wise?

Not sure on your sources, but you can see here

http://paultan.org/2011/12/15/hyundai-elan...ally-assembled/

Depends what u define as a better car. The Japs dont have good specs but they win with their build quality, excellent after sales service and good resale value. These 3 factors are very important to many ppl. Its pointless having a super high tech car which breaks down often and local mechanics cant fix and u gotta wait months for spares. Not saying all Koreans are such but buying a car is about balancing everything vs the price ure paying. No such thing as a perfect car.