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moonmoon1985
post Oct 8 2012, 10:51 PM

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Ya Coral's guard house design not nice!!

But to me it's the quality of GnG & safety that is most critical. Look at dpc, its success is not due to the fancy guardhouse, but the quality of it.
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post Oct 8 2012, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(moonmoon1985 @ Oct 8 2012, 10:51 PM)
Ya Coral's guard house design not nice!!

But to me it's the quality of GnG & safety that is most critical. Look at dpc, its success is not due to the fancy guardhouse, but the quality of it.
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Agree. Safety first.
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post Oct 9 2012, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(moonmoon1985 @ Oct 8 2012, 10:51 PM)
Ya Coral's guard house design not nice!!

But to me it's the quality of GnG & safety that is most critical. Look at dpc, its success is not due to the fancy guardhouse, but the quality of it.
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I beg to differ. Though the quality is important, the look is equally important . When you want to buy a property, what impress you most is the overall design, concept and the 'look'. Guardhouse is the very first thing you see. It is like someone come for interview, the first thing you observe is the way he/she dress. If the guardhouse design is 'cheap', the perception you get is the developer is 'cheap' too. Immediately you would also think the quality of the security guard is of sub-standard too.

Almost all the guardhouse design in DPC is excellent and nice. It matches the image of DPC. It gives you a very good feeling that this is the place you want to stay. It boast your confident in the developer. The success of DPC due to many factors.. every design elements , be it trees, ponds, walkway, perimeter fencing and guard house match the overall concept of DPC.
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post Oct 9 2012, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(chowdersoup @ Oct 9 2012, 08:22 AM)
I beg to differ. Though the quality is important, the look is equally important . When you want to buy a property, what impress you most is the overall design, concept and the 'look'. Guardhouse is the very first thing you see. It is like someone come for interview, the first thing you observe is the way he/she dress. If the guardhouse design is 'cheap', the perception you get is the developer is 'cheap' too. Immediately you would also think the quality of the security guard is of sub-standard too.

Almost all the guardhouse design in DPC is excellent and nice. It matches the image of DPC. It gives you a very good feeling that this is the place you want to stay. It boast your confident in the developer. The success of DPC  due to many factors.. every design elements , be it trees, ponds, walkway, perimeter fencing and guard house match the overall concept of DPC.
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Can't disagree with what you say. But do remember that the 'first impression' is only one of the many factors u should consider during an interview. So to me, safety 1st! blush.gif

Again, am kinda confident that Guocoland will at least mimic EE bungalow's guard house & perimeter fencing onto EG & Amberly. So it would be good for those who still have concern to visit EE's bungalow precinct? cool2.gif
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post Oct 9 2012, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(limfgn @ Oct 8 2012, 02:42 PM)
Guys, I think you all misunderstand the construction term used. If I have not mistaken, the finishes for the carporch should be like what they have provide for coral, "concrete imprint" not concrete or bare concrete. This concrete imprint finishing is a norm nowadays, very common for carporch or roof terrace finishes. Just google "concrete imprint" to understand more. Cheers.
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How can you confirm that, there is a misunderstand???? those sample of their current ready unit in Emerald are really poorly done, with shallow imprint, just box design, not colour.

Why bother, delivering such bad workmanship!! the developer reputation is much more valuable then those few penny save?

Do it right, and proper, action and delivery is better then LOUD ADVERTISING GIMMICK, and the end result is cheap looking.

Cheers

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post Oct 9 2012, 10:01 AM

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I noticed Mah Sing advertised like 'crazy' almost on a daily basis. Granted, they have lots of development.

Compared to DPC, I hardly see any advertisement. They do not have to do because action speaks louder than words. On this point , I fully agreed with aero-. Once you have done a good job, no need to advertise, people will do this for you ...all subsequent launch will sell by itself ...I have not heard residents in DPC complain ..... but the price beyond me ...so have to look outside KL.
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post Oct 9 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(chowdersoup @ Oct 9 2012, 08:22 AM)
I beg to differ. Though the quality is important, the look is equally important . When you want to buy a property, what impress you most is the overall design, concept and the 'look'. Guardhouse is the very first thing you see. It is like someone come for interview, the first thing you observe is the way he/she dress. If the guardhouse design is 'cheap', the perception you get is the developer is 'cheap' too. Immediately you would also think the quality of the security guard is of sub-standard too.

Almost all the guardhouse design in DPC is excellent and nice. It matches the image of DPC. It gives you a very good feeling that this is the place you want to stay. It boast your confident in the developer. The success of DPC  due to many factors.. every design elements , be it trees, ponds, walkway, perimeter fencing and guard house match the overall concept of DPC.
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Agree. I get the impression that developer do not place "presentability" on top of the list. See the guard house straight away no mood already. It is like low cost guard house. Don't use "safety first" as excuse. "Looks" does not have to be compromised whether safety is there or not.


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post Oct 9 2012, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Martinis @ Oct 9 2012, 11:04 AM)
Agree. I get the impression that developer do not place "presentability" on top of the list. See the guard house straight away no mood already. It is like low cost guard house. Don't use "safety first" as excuse. "Looks" does not have to be compromised whether safety is there or not.
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Action speak louder then words, if safety first they should have barb wire for all thir fence instead of Fence, it would provide more safety then look?

The guard house should use a container rather then brick and motar.

In any development, property sells and buyer buys by looking at a few criterior:

-developer reputation
-delivers
-location
-concept
-quality

Anyone dont agree?


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post Oct 9 2012, 02:09 PM

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Wanted to buy but I called up last week and the SA told me all 2.5 storey (Both type A & C) sold out. Only left the 2 storey x 1 unit which is facing the TNB box(type B 26x80) at RM838k before 30k rebate. Although lousy "concrete" car porch (some claimed), yet it still sold out. The best part is the SA told me the maintenance fees is RM200/mth. RM80 for the guard and RM120 for the gardening! Gardening is more expensive than the guard!!! I wonder how many time the gardener will turn up in a month to do gardening compare to the guard which will be there 24x7.
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post Oct 9 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(moonmoon1985 @ Oct 8 2012, 10:51 PM)
Ya Coral's guard house design not nice!!

But to me it's the quality of GnG & safety that is most critical. Look at dpc, its success is not due to the fancy guardhouse, but the quality of it.
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Would like to know how do you define quality GnG?
So mean to say nicely build fuctional guardhouse does not fall under quality criteria?
Nice guardhouse show a developer commitment to give a quality GnG.
This is a tangible quality where you can see & touch. Also give residents and visitor the first good impression of your property.

Safety is non-tangible, it is contribute by many factors. Like good security rules, security hardware & people (real trained guard & not put 1 or 2 pension 60 years old guards or foreigners who can't even communicate with the residents).

Btw if compare DPC guardhouses & Coral guardhouse? Close both eyes also know who is better..

Imagine lah, you go to Mont Kiara & see this non-fancy guard house in one of the condo. What is your impression then?
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post Oct 9 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(scng @ Oct 9 2012, 02:09 PM)
Wanted to buy but I called up last week and the SA told me all 2.5 storey (Both type A & C) sold out. Only left the 2 storey x 1 unit which is facing the TNB box(type B 26x80) at RM838k before 30k rebate. Although lousy "concrete" car porch (some claimed), yet it still sold out. The best part is the SA told me the maintenance fees is RM200/mth. RM80 for the guard and RM120 for the gardening! Gardening is more expensive than the guard!!! I wonder how many time the gardener will turn up in a month to do gardening compare to the guard which will be there 24x7.
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Wow, so it means out of 161 units, 160 units are sold?
There are big piece of linear park in the central and between the houses. So the maintainance is every day things.
I dont think it need RM200 pm after the residence take over. RM200 x 161 houses = RM32,000 per month. I think we do not need such big amount to maintain guard house and gardening.
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post Oct 9 2012, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(sambelayamijo @ Oct 9 2012, 02:16 PM)
Would like to know how do you define quality GnG?
So mean to say nicely build fuctional guardhouse does not fall under quality criteria?
Nice guardhouse show a developer commitment to give a quality GnG.
This is a tangible quality where you can see & touch. Also give residents and visitor the first good impression of your property.

Safety is non-tangible, it is contribute by many factors. Like good security rules, security hardware & people (real trained guard & not put 1 or 2 pension 60 years old guards or foreigners who can't even communicate with the residents). 

Btw if compare DPC guardhouses & Coral guardhouse? Close both eyes also know who is better..

Imagine lah, you go to Mont Kiara & see this non-fancy guard house in one of the condo. What is your impression then?
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Hi, I think moonmoon is trying to point out that, since the guard house has already being build, what we can hope now is that good security is provided.

Btw, have you write in to Guocoland to sound your dissatisfaction?
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post Oct 9 2012, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(limfgn @ Oct 9 2012, 02:48 PM)
Hi, I think moonmoon is trying to point out that, since the guard house has already being build, what we can hope now is that good security is provided.

Btw, have you write in to Guocoland to sound your dissatisfaction?
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thanks for clarifying, that's exactly my point here actually. this topic somehow turns hostile lately. sweat.gif icon_question.gif

Anyway as said, I do agree for EG & Amberly the guard house and perimeter fencing should be of much better quality given the price tag.

& ya, pls feedback to Guocoland your concern. I understand there is a group of EG buyers requesting modification. Good luck... icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Oct 9 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(limfgn @ Oct 9 2012, 02:48 PM)
Hi, I think moonmoon is trying to point out that, since the guard house has already being build, what we can hope now is that good security is provided.

Btw, have you write in to Guocoland to sound your dissatisfaction?
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I know the Coral guard house is just built, same case as M Residence also.
How come Mah Sing can demolish it & build a new nicer guardhouse after buyers complain?
Maybe Coral buyers are the takpe & relac type, maybe Guocoland didn't keep promise. I don't know. Only actual Coral buyers will know.
If I am Coral buyer, I will sure to complain. For a RM400k+ property, one deserve better than this.

Anyway I am not eyeing at Coral but at Emerald Garden & Amberley sub sales as some said Amberley might be GnG afterall, let wait and see.
I like Emerald Garden house design and bigger layout. However besides this, I have no idea what are they offering for the security & the details of the garden concept. The sales people also like never take initiative to explain detail to me. Everytime I have to ask then they answer. If I forget to ask, no answer, like how I forget to ask about the security in details. So after I come across this forum, I think I can get more accurate, reliable & transparent answer. Also we do exchange of view & sometimes debate a bit, but this is healthy & good for buyers like us anyway.
Sales people, you know lah, to push sales, they only tell you beautiful things. Ugly stuffs, they keep inside store room. You would see it until you really korek, this is what I am trying to do now, korek. I don't want to find out when it is too late.

I will write to Guocoland if i confirmed to buy, but somehow i also confuse what to do now.
Complain first then buy or buy first then complain.
If I have not yet buy, i complain. Developer won't bother because they can say you don't like, then don't buy lah.
If I buy then complain, developer also can not to layan me coz I already sign the agreement.
Somemore how to complain as Guocoland also don't have guard house design and the security details for me to scrutinise. rclxub.gif


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Wow, did not know that can get so much information from this forum.

Great inform.


Added on October 9, 2012, 6:10 pm
QUOTE(scng @ Oct 9 2012, 02:09 PM)
Wanted to buy but I called up last week and the SA told me all 2.5 storey (Both type A & C) sold out. Only left the 2 storey x 1 unit which is facing the TNB box(type B 26x80) at RM838k before 30k rebate. Although lousy "concrete" car porch (some claimed), yet it still sold out. The best part is the SA told me the maintenance fees is RM200/mth. RM80 for the guard and RM120 for the gardening! Gardening is more expensive than the guard!!! I wonder how many time the gardener will turn up in a month to do gardening compare to the guard which will be there 24x7.
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Wow this is what we call great gardening deal, every month pay but only maintain once in few month time, should ask the developer to plant fruit tree. so it can self sustain.........

LOL

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post Oct 9 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(WTF! @ Oct 9 2012, 06:00 PM)
Wow, did not know that can get so much information from this forum.

Great inform.


Added on October 9, 2012, 6:10 pm

Wow this is what we call great gardening deal, every month pay but only maintain once in few month time, should ask the developer to plant fruit tree. so it can self sustain.........

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Self Sustain.........a good one........they should plant "Musang King Durian".

hehehe
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post Oct 9 2012, 07:00 PM

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Wow! I'm surprised by the number of new posts lately. rclxms.gif
Anyway, I have photo of Amberley & the concrete imprint is quite visible. Looks not bad & somehow slightly different from Coral's imprint. Could it be Coral's is still under WIP?
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And yes, Amberley has a guardhouse as per the brochure, where you can download from Guocoland website, it shows a guardhouse with 4 boom gates. The guardhouse is a bit small though. However I can't find anything on perimeter fencing.
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Can you see an exceptionally well attired guard? Spotted with tie & a law enforcer type of hat.. hmm.gif

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post Oct 9 2012, 07:29 PM

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The emblem of Amberley looks like a school badge .. ha ha

On the serious note, if the brochure of Amberley shown the design of guardhouse, why can't they do the same for EG ????
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post Oct 9 2012, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(sambelayamijo @ Oct 9 2012, 03:59 PM)
I know the Coral guard house is just built, same case as M Residence also.
How come Mah Sing can demolish it & build a new nicer guardhouse after buyers complain?
Maybe Coral buyers are the takpe & relac type, maybe Guocoland didn't keep promise. I don't know. Only actual Coral buyers will know.
If I am Coral buyer, I will sure to complain. For a RM400k+ property, one deserve better than this.

Anyway I am not eyeing at Coral but at Emerald Garden & Amberley sub sales as some said Amberley might be GnG afterall, let wait and see.
I like Emerald Garden house design and bigger layout. However besides this, I have no idea what are they offering for the security & the details of the garden concept. The sales people also like never take initiative to explain detail to me. Everytime I have to ask then they answer. If I forget to ask, no answer, like how I forget to ask about the security in details. So after I come across this forum, I think I can get more accurate, reliable & transparent answer. Also we do exchange of view & sometimes debate a bit, but this is healthy & good for buyers like us anyway.
Sales people, you know lah, to push sales, they only tell you beautiful things. Ugly stuffs, they keep inside store room. You would see it until you really korek, this is what I am trying to do now, korek. I don't want to find out when it is too late.

I will write to Guocoland if i confirmed to buy, but somehow i also confuse what to do now.
Complain first then buy or buy first then complain.
If I have not yet buy, i complain. Developer won't bother because they can say you don't like, then don't buy lah.
If I buy then complain, developer also can not to layan me coz I already sign the agreement.
Somemore how to complain as Guocoland also don't have guard house design and the security details for me to scrutinise. rclxub.gif
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Good Luck to you man, its difficult to find a development where the brochure shows you everything and the developer commit to such design.

And the sales person...haha...ya, they hide alot. But last time it was better, I actually got all info I want to know from the sales person. May be change to another group of sales person.
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QUOTE(sambelayamijo @ Oct 9 2012, 03:59 PM)
I know the Coral guard house is just built, same case as M Residence also.
How come Mah Sing can demolish it & build a new nicer guardhouse after buyers complain?
Maybe Coral buyers are the takpe & relac type, maybe Guocoland didn't keep promise. I don't know. Only actual Coral buyers will know.
If I am Coral buyer, I will sure to complain. For a RM400k+ property, one deserve better than this.

Anyway I am not eyeing at Coral but at Emerald Garden & Amberley sub sales as some said Amberley might be GnG afterall, let wait and see.
I like Emerald Garden house design and bigger layout. However besides this, I have no idea what are they offering for the security & the details of the garden concept. The sales people also like never take initiative to explain detail to me. Everytime I have to ask then they answer. If I forget to ask, no answer, like how I forget to ask about the security in details. So after I come across this forum, I think I can get more accurate, reliable & transparent answer. Also we do exchange of view & sometimes debate a bit, but this is healthy & good for buyers like us anyway.
Sales people, you know lah, to push sales, they only tell you beautiful things. Ugly stuffs, they keep inside store room. You would see it until you really korek, this is what I am trying to do now, korek. I don't want to find out when it is too late.

I will write to Guocoland if i confirmed to buy, but somehow i also confuse what to do now.
Complain first then buy or buy first then complain.
If I have not yet buy, i complain. Developer won't bother because they can say you don't like, then don't buy lah.
If I buy then complain, developer also can not to layan me coz I already sign the agreement.
Somemore how to complain as Guocoland also don't have guard house design and the security details for me to scrutinise. rclxub.gif
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I am one of the Coral buyer... so i am type of person u talking about?? lol... anyway i feel Coral is worthy buy for me...smile.gif

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