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chowdersoup
post Oct 5 2012, 09:07 AM

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Hi, new to this forum.
I stayed around Kepong area and take my dogs for walk in DPC. The owner of DPC is kind enough to allow dogs in their park. Heard so much about Emerald from friends , like want to do something like DPC, so decided to take a look.
Concept wise ok but not sure developer has the 'money' and determination to match DPC. Have a look at the new semi-D .. is it Amberly or Emberly ( something like that). Got a shock when see no guard house and no fencing... thought this is high class. People can just walk in from every where. Told by the sales guardhouse being built and also the fence. Very strange to me .. thought all these should have planned and approved before hand. Find out also same for Garden.. no picture of guardhouse or fencing
Not sure can invest ...find out developer part of Hong Leong group.. big name.. should be ok ? Not too sure
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post Oct 6 2012, 03:22 PM

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I am also very impressed with EG superlink show house till the sales guy told me the car porch does not come with tiles, only concrete. The tiles in the show house is really for 'show only' . A bit taken aback ... sales gimmicks ?? Misleading ?? Looks funny with cheap concrete.. it really spoil everything.. what a pity. Wrong way to save cost. Otherwise, great design and concept.. very tempting to buy one..May be I wait for Auggun 3 and see
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post Oct 6 2012, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Oct 6 2012, 05:53 PM)
The semi d that u mentioned BU is only 2300 sqft build on 40x85ft of land, such a waste on the space utilisation.
If given to some other developer at least can squeeze the BU till 3809 sqft.
The smallest link in Emerald Garden type B has better space utilisation, IMO.
Amberly the semi dee and EG is definately the clear card between the old school and new design for EW.
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Actually I quite like Amberley. It is ideal for small family with small children. Plenty of space for them to play around. If the BU is bigger, then price will much higher as well.

EG is great if you want large BU and more modern design.

Different development serves different needs

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post Oct 7 2012, 10:03 AM

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I visited the show house again to make sure I undertand better. The indoor landscape is an excellent idea. Make the staircase, living and family area very bright. From outside, it looks like semi-D. Credit to the designer. Space utilization is excellent as well. Compared to my friend's house in DPC, I like the EG design better .. except the car porch ...

Looking at the EW development and the concept, I think the developer has a good chance to make it good. May be even better than DPC. History will tell ......May be worth investing now. ..still thinking ..
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post Oct 7 2012, 09:16 PM

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Hi Bro Masbruno ...relac-lah..don't be too upset. No good for your heart Things will turn out good in the end ..
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post Oct 8 2012, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(limfgn @ Oct 8 2012, 05:19 PM)
You may look at this picture of Coral, user posted image

The photo not taken by me but I visited the site few few time, this is what I see.

As for Amberly, look at this user posted image
the car-porch floor finishes in beige.
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If it is concrete imprint, then it is quite acceptable to me. There are lot of nice design with concrete imprint.

But still should confirm with developer directly.

Just a thought, if it is concrete imprint, then the show house should installed with the actual concrete imprint that comes with the house... right !! Otherwise Chineses proverb said " hang up the goat's head but selling dog's meat" .
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post Oct 9 2012, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(moonmoon1985 @ Oct 8 2012, 10:51 PM)
Ya Coral's guard house design not nice!!

But to me it's the quality of GnG & safety that is most critical. Look at dpc, its success is not due to the fancy guardhouse, but the quality of it.
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I beg to differ. Though the quality is important, the look is equally important . When you want to buy a property, what impress you most is the overall design, concept and the 'look'. Guardhouse is the very first thing you see. It is like someone come for interview, the first thing you observe is the way he/she dress. If the guardhouse design is 'cheap', the perception you get is the developer is 'cheap' too. Immediately you would also think the quality of the security guard is of sub-standard too.

Almost all the guardhouse design in DPC is excellent and nice. It matches the image of DPC. It gives you a very good feeling that this is the place you want to stay. It boast your confident in the developer. The success of DPC due to many factors.. every design elements , be it trees, ponds, walkway, perimeter fencing and guard house match the overall concept of DPC.
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post Oct 9 2012, 10:01 AM

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I noticed Mah Sing advertised like 'crazy' almost on a daily basis. Granted, they have lots of development.

Compared to DPC, I hardly see any advertisement. They do not have to do because action speaks louder than words. On this point , I fully agreed with aero-. Once you have done a good job, no need to advertise, people will do this for you ...all subsequent launch will sell by itself ...I have not heard residents in DPC complain ..... but the price beyond me ...so have to look outside KL.
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post Oct 9 2012, 07:29 PM

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The emblem of Amberley looks like a school badge .. ha ha

On the serious note, if the brochure of Amberley shown the design of guardhouse, why can't they do the same for EG ????
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post Oct 10 2012, 01:29 PM

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I think we should 'hold our horses' on EG guardhouse... for now.. it is getting a bit 'too hot'.

I will wait till I see Amberley's guardhouse before I make any more comment
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post Oct 10 2012, 07:15 PM

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Not too sure the guardhouse is for Coral. The caption on top of the picture said

"Emerald West is also a guarded community that makes your privacy and peace of mind a priority".

So this guardhouse might be referring to the entire Emerald West guardhouse. Exactly what and where is this ?? anyone know ??

If this is not the guardhouse for Coral, then putting that picture there is very misleading...
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post Oct 11 2012, 02:26 PM

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When I was making inquiry, SA told me definitely a guardhouse but design not out yet. Design will be out when nearer to completion for submission of approval. I never ask card access.

Their SA are not well trained. Sometime give contradictory info. Like I was told maintenance is around RM 100 a month but some heard RM300....Better clarify with developer..
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post Oct 13 2012, 05:36 PM

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Found this document

http://issuu.com/anwar_townplan/docs/gp_gated_english_merged
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post Oct 17 2012, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(charlieboy61 @ Oct 17 2012, 05:07 PM)
Hv been looking at the projects at rawang, emerald, anggun and m residence. For the purpose of investment, which project is a better bet?
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Me too ...
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post Oct 17 2012, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(TheOwl @ Oct 17 2012, 09:06 PM)
1. The affected house owners of Coral  and Coris can gang up to file a class action suit against Guocoland for false representation. The brochure etc can be used as evidence. Check your S&P to see if they promised you G&G. I think Hong Leong is BS big time.

2.  A friend of mine bought his house 10 years ago (one of the earliest phases). I think the developer is Hong Bee. He wrote to them. They never replied to his query about the title.

3.  He just informed me the whole Emerald development is facing some court case. Did anyone here know about any court case? TQ
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Hi Bro,
Be careful what you post. "He just informed me the whole Emerald development is facing some court case" this is a VERY SERIOUS ACCUSATION. If not true, the developer can sue you for defamation.
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post Oct 18 2012, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(moonmoon1985 @ Oct 18 2012, 08:16 AM)
Actually 1 good way to check is via bursa announcements or checking thru their annual report. It's is material litigation I presume if it's true?

But I have never heard of that.
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Yes, Annual Report is a good source. I have read their latest Annual Report 2012 (June). There is no mentioning of any pending court case.

The same report however mentioned their next plan for Emerald. See below :-

In the pipeline is the proposed replanning of Emerald which will take the township to a higher level and reaffirm its position
as a preferred residential township in Rawang. The all-new Emerald will incorporate a unique and contemporary
neighbourhood living concept, offering greater exclusivity with gated and guarded homes to cater to the discerning
homebuyers. Approvals from the relevant authorities are expected in the coming months, and we aim to launch zero-lot
bungalows, mid-rise apartments and townhouses by early next year.

Anyone fancy bungalows? Their bungalow in Amandarii Kajang starts at 1.7 M but the built-up is huge ....> 5000 sq ft.

You can read their Annual Report in their website

By the way ,I am in no way connected to Guocoland or any other developers in Rawang. I am just another potential buyer. I also did a lot of check on Hong Bee and Mah Sing. I like to have all facts before I invest my hard earn money.

If your friend can provide solid facts about the court case, then it is a different story. TQ
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post Oct 18 2012, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ Oct 18 2012, 11:17 AM)
Seem you are quite familiar with EW project.
Is all the Emerald West project gated and guarded community?
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Sorry , I cannot comment on all development in EW. I only did research on EG as this is the project that interest me. (along with Anggun 2 n 3) . When EG was launched, this was splash all over the news and media --> " 24-hour guarded homes with perimeter fencing ".

Of course it is unknown how the guardhouse looks like and what sort of perimeter fencing will be provided ... This is probably the only reason that stop me from putting down payment. What if end of the day, the guardhouse is 'cheap' and fencing like 'chicken farm' type ? I am also trying to see any other people have some inside information about these. Some said the guardhouse must be at the road shoulder. Some said no fencing is allowed. Some said can have access card and some said cannot. I tried asking the SA. They were not sure either. So it is very confusing. So I have decided to step back a bit and see what they will do with Amberley. This will give me a good indication.


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post Oct 18 2012, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ Oct 18 2012, 02:55 PM)
Good. Just see what they do for Coral, Amberly and Cassis. But I scare that when that time EG all sold out!
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You are absolutely correct. That is my worry too.. A bit like poker game..ha ha.....But have to make decision soon.. My wife is 'nagging' me already.. To her, very simple.. just buy-lah ..ha ha.. May be I think too much..
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post Oct 18 2012, 03:13 PM

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Agreed. The landscaping is coming up very nicely. Plenty of trees...looking a bit more like DPC . Give them credit for doing that
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post Oct 18 2012, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(TheOwl @ Oct 18 2012, 05:01 PM)
Chowdersoup,

Do not misunderstand. I'm NOT the one who came up with this idea. A house-owner friend asked me. I've checked with a real estate friend who's active in the area and he said no such thing as he has not heard of anything. I do not know where this house-owner got this idea or from whom he heard it.

I also feel lega as I too am an investor at Emerald. If there's anything it affects me as well. That's why I thought I had better confirm it here with people who are so Emerald-savvy. Thanks.

By the way,what is a zero-lot bungalow? TQ
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Hi TheOwl
Don't worry. I know it is not from you. Just be careful
zero-lot .. I referred you an article published by Star on 26-09-2012. The title of the article is "Know Your Property". The article tries to define what exactly all these means like SuperLink, zero-lot, townhouse, villa, terrace , mansion , loft , cluster home and so on. Frankly, the author had done a very poor job. After reading, I am more confused. Here is his definition of zero-lot:
"Often referred to as a cero-lot bungalow in Malaysia, a zero-lot house is a piece of residential real estate in which the structure comes up near to the edge of the property line. Often the renovations are made to create more usable spaces"

Can you understand this ?
After visiting many zero-lot show house, then only I understand. The key phrase is 'near to the edge of the property line". A bungalow has 4 sides or edges. A zero-lot means one of the edge is so closed to the next bungalow that it may share a wall. So far , most zero-lot I have visited share the 'back-side" with the next unit. Pardon me for my crook language. You can also call it a semi-D but not linked together...All kinds of name created by developers.....


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