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 Astro B.yond V4.1, WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD OF HD

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post Apr 6 2010, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(minimize @ Apr 6 2010, 08:07 PM)
Astro should add more HD channel to attract more customer upgrade to byond. RM20 for 5 HD channel or maybe less is not worth for them.
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post Apr 6 2010, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(victorwan @ Apr 6 2010, 05:32 PM)
It should be available in SD as well. If not, those without Byond will make noise and make complain again.
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Well, they can use WC to convince customer to upgrade to Byond.

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QUOTE(whatsupbro @ Apr 6 2010, 06:48 PM)
I wonder how much it cost for all 64 Live matches in HD...
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rm10 X the number of subscribers including non Malaysian customers + 30% fr the commercials tat Astro will poket

if not Astro will not plan to delist its stock on the Bursa laugh.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ Apr 6 2010, 09:24 PM)
if not Astro will not plan to delist its stock on the Bursa laugh.gif
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I believe the de-listing was for the more riskier move that Astro wants to make with regards to its overseas expansion via SunTV and Indonesia. Going private means that they can make bolder financial risks than what shareholders would allow.


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QUOTE(MyDevil @ Apr 6 2010, 09:16 PM)
Well, they can use WC to convince customer to upgrade to Byond.
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Astro are currently promoting Byond by noting all 64 matches are LIVE in HD
My guess is new HD channels will only launch after World Cup ends to pull in more new subscribers
Important to note though that the number of HD channles available for World Cup does not count as the 10 HD channels promised this year
World Cup HD channels are temporary
The 10 HD channels are actually permanent channels like the ones already available


Added on April 7, 2010, 4:31 amWow..just finished watching Lionel Messi destroy Arsenal
Absolutely fantastic player with fantastic skills
Even more amazing in HD
Cant wait for World Cup drool.gif

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QUOTE(neb @ Apr 6 2010, 07:13 PM)
I think tv1 and tv2 channels are not scrambled, northern singapore can pick up the transmission from johor using VHF antenna

or watch world cup through china satellite 6B CCTV channels brows.gif
CCTV1, CCTV5(encrypted), CCTV7, CCTVHD, CCTV football(encrypted)
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yup,, i do not know how RTM gonna encrypt their broadcasting signal thru VHF since the signal also meant for JB audience.
RTM may only encrypt the football match, via satellite, but not VHF.

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post Apr 7 2010, 10:39 AM

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Reading this thread makes me wonder if all us (the consumer) really understands Astro pricing.

Let me try to explain. The RM20 is not the price for the HD channels. It's the price for HD Service Fee. Meaning to receive HD services, you need to pay RM20 and then only you'll be able to get the HD channels.

How many channels depends on your SD packages subscription. If you have Movie Package, then you'll be able to get HBO HD. If they add more channels to the corresponding SD package like Variety, Sports and maybe Family, you'll be able to get that channels provided you subscribe to that SD Pack.

Say one day Astro came up with additional Channels, and this say 3 channels don't have the SD channels equivalent, they may give this package name as "Ultra HD" package and price it at RM14.95.

The customers have to Pay not only RM20 for the access to HD but also the RM14.95.

So let's no longer discuss whether RM20 for 5 channels is enough or not. coz the RM20 is not for the 5 channels per se.

Oh and might I add that those of you who have not jumped ship to B.yond...better do so coz come WC season...I don't think Astro can cope with the installation request.
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Apr 7 2010, 10:39 AM)
Reading this thread makes me wonder if all us (the consumer) really understands Astro pricing.

Let me try to explain. The RM20 is not the price for the HD channels. It's the price for HD Service Fee. Meaning to receive HD services, you need to pay RM20 and then only you'll be able to get the HD channels.

How many channels depends on your SD packages subscription. If you have Movie Package, then you'll be able to get HBO HD. If they add more channels to the corresponding SD package like Variety, Sports and maybe Family, you'll be able to get that channels provided you subscribe to that SD Pack.

Say one day Astro came up with additional Channels, and this say 3 channels don't have the SD channels equivalent, they may give this package name as "Ultra HD" package and price it at RM14.95.

The customers have to Pay not only RM20 for the access to HD but also the RM14.95.

So let's no longer discuss whether RM20 for 5 channels is enough or not. coz the RM20 is not for the 5 channels per se.

Oh and might I add that those of you who have not jumped ship to B.yond...better do so coz come WC season...I don't think Astro can cope with the installation request.
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remember this

should you terminate Byond within the tie-in one year period, you hav the pay a penalty of (how much ady??) rm500

so i guess Astro will rake in alot after WC season is over if astro dun introduce more good quality HD channel

wat would u do if you are the CEO of Astro tat oversees the HD implementation ?? brows.gif


Added on April 7, 2010, 11:07 am
QUOTE(writesimply @ Apr 7 2010, 01:15 AM)
I believe the de-listing was for the more riskier move that Astro wants to make with regards to its overseas expansion via SunTV and Indonesia. Going private means that they can make bolder financial risks than what shareholders would allow.
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i disagree

the owner see more value in taking it private as he hav sufficient holdings to push everything through if he insist in implementing them

do u still remember how much Astro was offered to the public when it was first listed? and wat was their balance sheet and customers base back then?

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you'd rather pay 500 or even 300 to terminate instead of 20 a month?

might as well keep it running for the year contract (total 240) and then cancel if you want... WTF is this even a discussion

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Hi,
I have a problem with by byond stb. Sometimes when I am watching a HD channel, the screen will go black for a second and then re-appear. Sometimes, only the sound cuts out. Sometimes, the whole screen or 1/2 the screen goes fuzzy for a second. Do I have a defective box? It happens a few times a day.

Also, often when flicking through the channels on the info bar, most of the channels say NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE. Why is this? If I change to that channel then bring up the bar, the info appears.

This is getting as bad as my max STB. I also have tried another HDMI cable and I get the same problem.
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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Apr 7 2010, 12:28 PM)
Hi,
I have a problem with by byond stb. Sometimes when I am watching a HD channel, the screen will go black for a second and then re-appear. Sometimes, only the sound cuts out. Sometimes, the whole screen or 1/2 the screen goes fuzzy for a second. Do I have a defective box? It happens a few times a day.

Also, often when flicking through the channels on the info bar, most of the channels say NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE. Why is this? If I change to that channel then bring up the bar, the info appears.

This is getting as bad as my max STB. I also have tried another HDMI cable and I get the same problem.
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Ah...this is the problem with the receiver box and its software and the communication between the remote. Try not to press the button too fast. biggrin.gif in other words, press once...give it a bit of time for response then the next command. biggrin.gif I got this when I first got this HD service and now I learn to have a bit of
patience....press a command .... wait a few seconds...then press another. This allows the command to be carried out. smile.gif smile.gif

It's just a very new service that will take time to improve.

This post has been edited by reddevil04: Apr 7 2010, 01:41 PM
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post Apr 7 2010, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(reddevil04 @ Apr 7 2010, 01:40 PM)
Ah...this is the problem with the receiver box and its software and the communication between the remote. Try not to press the button too fast.  biggrin.gif  in other words, press once...give it a bit of time for response then the next command.  biggrin.gif  I got this when I first got this HD service and now I learn to have a bit of
patience....press a command .... wait a few seconds...then press another. This allows the command to be carried out.  smile.gif  smile.gif 

It's just a very new service that will take time to improve.
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OK, but the problem that I have with the screen cutting out happens when I am watching a HD channel and not touching the remote.
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post Apr 7 2010, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Apr 7 2010, 02:05 PM)
OK, but the problem that I have with the screen cutting out happens when I am watching a HD channel and not touching the remote.
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this could be the cable contact problem, try to re-seat power plug and HDMI plug properly, that is to insert all the way in but don't force it too hard brows.gif
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QUOTE(neb @ Apr 7 2010, 07:18 AM)
this could be the cable contact problem, try to re-seat power plug and HDMI plug properly, that is to insert all the way in but don't force it too hard brows.gif
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If you've already checked the cable / connection.

Then just a wild guess, but maybe it could be an overheating problem.

My computer screen will black out for a second periodically when the computer graphics card gets too hot.

The converter chips in the Astro box are basically graphic cards / processors and will do weird things if they get too hot.

Try ventilating the area around the box or maybe even removing the cover.

This post has been edited by Arlington: Apr 7 2010, 02:48 PM
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BTW Suntv and Asstro Nusantara are flops, they made losses cos our friend could not mess in Indonesia and India ! They were shown the door in Indonesia when they wanted to control EPL I think. doh.gif Here they made it cos simple politics ! This is Bolehlahland they say !Just tell me how can Kampus Assto contributes to our education and why all schools installed assto !? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Arlington @ Apr 7 2010, 02:46 PM)
If you've already checked the cable / connection.

Then just a wild guess, but maybe it could be an overheating problem.

My computer screen will black out for a second periodically when the computer graphics card gets too hot.

The converter chips in the Astro box are basically graphic cards / processors and will do weird things if they get too hot.

Try ventilating the area around the box or maybe even removing the cover.
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Astro should have better graphic cards / processors when next decoder (Hopefully better than B.yond) released. smile.gif
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post Apr 7 2010, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 7 2010, 09:12 AM)
Astro should have better graphic cards / processors when next decoder (Hopefully better than B.yond) released. smile.gif
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Yes, I think Astro should upgrade to quantum processors in the next model so they don't produce any heat. tongue.gif

But I think quantum computing may be a few years away. hmm.gif

In the mean time maybe they should simply improve the heat dissappation in the new versions.


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QUOTE(Arlington @ Apr 7 2010, 04:27 PM)
Yes, I think Astro should upgrade to quantum processors in the next model so they don't produce any heat.  tongue.gif

But I think quantum computing may be a few years away. hmm.gif

In the mean time maybe they should simply improve the heat dissappation in the new versions.
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Put in custom water-cooler will be fine... brows.gif

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