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 Astro B.yond V4.1, WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD OF HD

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post May 19 2010, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(art6969 @ May 19 2010, 07:58 PM)
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post May 19 2010, 09:56 PM

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I just saw a screenshot of HBO (SD) from Singapore and it seems to be in 16:9 format. If that's the case, it shouldn't be too hard for Astro to broadcast channels in that format as they are available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HBOSTY.jpg

Its not a great screenshot, but look how the HBO logo is more centred, so viewers with standard TVs will see it after the picture is cropped.
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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ May 19 2010, 09:56 PM)
I just saw a screenshot of HBO (SD) from Singapore and it seems to be in 16:9 format. If that's the case, it shouldn't be too hard for Astro to broadcast channels in that format as they are available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HBOSTY.jpg

Its not a great screenshot, but look how the HBO logo is more centred, so viewers with standard TVs will see it after the picture is cropped.
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post May 20 2010, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ May 19 2010, 12:31 PM)
I always thought that Astro H.264 migration is more advance than Japan MPEG2 codecs, yet Japan have more HD channel. cool.gif
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H.264 is a better codec than MPEG-2. Japan does have more HD channel than Astro. You're wearing a blue shirt today and your neighbor is wearing a white t-shirt. One truth does not negate the other truth.

Using H.264 is a better way to increase Astro's HD channels when the company has limited transponders.

Japan have had HD since the 80s. They have OTA, satellite and cable in HD. Their entertainment infrastructure are in HD.

QUOTE(THEALB10N @ May 19 2010, 01:14 PM)
Back in the UK, you set your STB to the screen format you have i.e. 4:3 or 16:9. The STB then either displays the channel in its native 16:9 format, or crops it (i.e. what Astro does) to the 4:3 format for normal TVs.

Surely this would be the best solution, as 4:3 SDTV owners would get to watch channels as they currenty are displayed, and 16:9 SD and HD owners would be able to watch the channels in their native format. Neither TV owner would then have a stretched picture or black bars on the screen biggrin.gif

Food for thought.
Back when Astro launched with the Philips decoder, one of the settings you could set was if your TV was widescreen or not. Astro could have done it the way Europe and Australia have done it. But they didn't because the majority of Malaysians didn't have widescreen CRTs/RPTVs. So using that feature would not only be useless to the subscribers who don't see the value of it, it would also cause more headaches for Astro when subscribers are asking why the channel info is chopped off. When implementing a feature, you have to make sure that the feature is something that people would see value of and it won't cost you money in terms of call center reports.

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Added on May 19, 2010, 1:18 pm
I hope they release an STB that has 2 tuners in the future! (They'll probably charge for it).
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QUOTE(dxjb @ May 19 2010, 04:54 PM)
is there any other way that astro can adjust the software or something so that we can watch one channel and record another?
Instead of issuing a new decoder that has 2 tuners..
I mean is there no other way to replace the missing 2 tuners bit still have the same ability?
Besides replacing the whole board? No.

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Either the person at astro who came up with the one tuner decoder now is DUMB or BRILLIANT as Astro could issue a decoder with 2 tuners at a cost..
My guess is the latter scenario..
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Maybe that's in their financial plan for B.yond...


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If i was not mistaken, Japan 80's HD use analog system. hmm.gif

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In 1969, the Japanese state broadcaster NHK first developed consumer high-definition television with a 5:3 aspect ratio, a slightly wider screen format than the usual 4:3 standard. The system, known as Hi-Vision or MUSE after its Multiple sub-Nyquist sampling encoding for encoding the signal, required about twice the bandwidth of the existing NTSC system but provided about four times the resolution (1080i/1125 lines). Satellite test broadcasts started in 1989, with regular testing starting in 1991 and regular broadcasting of BS-9ch commenced on 25 November 1994, which featured commercial and NHK programming.


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Some cable boxes are capable of receiving or recording two or more broadcasts at a time in HDTV format, and HDTV programming, some free, some for a fee, can be played back with the cable company's on-demand feature.


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I wonder if Astro will come out decoder with 2 tuner for byond later, what it will look like. I guess we need to lay 2 cables to the dish & using LNB with 2 output. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(eMKs @ May 20 2010, 09:20 AM)
I wonder if Astro will come out decoder with 2 tuner for byond later, what it will look like.
It will look like a toaster.




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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ May 20 2010, 10:13 AM)
It will look like a toaster.
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Even now you can use it as a toaster, just place a slice of bread beneath it. Then, new decoder could be use as a 2 slice toaster. laugh.gif
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post May 20 2010, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ May 20 2010, 01:09 AM)
If i was not mistaken, Japan 80's HD use analog system. hmm.gif
Indeed. Analog or not, it is still a HD broadcast system. That was the standard NHK and others followed. Only later did they migrate to MPEG-2.

There were MUSE Laserdiscs players and discs produced during this era as well. Obviously it looked a lot better than LDs and DVDs at the time.

Can Japan migrate to H.264? Definitely. Private cable companies with their own STBs will have the ability to enact the change than OTA channels since the STBs are their own, just like how Dish Network and Astro are doing right now. Unlike the US which only went total MPEG-2 HD broadcast recently, Japan can migrate easily as they have mandatorily used MPEG-2 a lot longer.

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That's why 15 years ago we saw DVD recorders from Japan first. Their media companies are not afraid of people recording content. This spurred consumer electronics companies to make DVD recorders.

Can Astro come out with a three-decoder B.yond Max box? Sure. So long as the pricing is right because there definitely is a demand for a lower-cost Astro recorder.


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when will astro byond have promotion for 2nd decoder at 50% off. needed it for fifa world cup

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QUOTE(sunnyK @ May 20 2010, 12:14 PM)
when will astro byond have promotion for 2nd decoder at 50% off. needed it for fifa world cup
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You shd be glad they don't charging you extra for FIFA WC, want 50% some more ?!! notworthy.gif

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Astro year 2000 promo... Wow! That's totally expensive that time... RM799 for one set of Astro DMS... + RM100 some more for Installation.... biggrin.gif
But if i'm not mistaken, for just RM54.95, we can get all mini packages that they called as "World" package that time.... and other 2 super package like Dynasty and Movies...

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wow that is very expensive... damn....
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ May 20 2010, 12:53 PM)
Astro year 2000 promo... Wow! That's totally expensive that time... RM799 for one set of Astro DMS... + RM100 some more for Installation....  biggrin.gif
But if i'm not mistaken, for just RM54.95, we can get all mini packages that they called as "World" package that time.... and other 2 super package like Dynasty and Movies...

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* Got it on NST archive, Jan 11 2000 *

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=x8G8...ntsec=frontpage
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post May 20 2010, 01:21 PM

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Want to know how many decoders can I connect to one astro byond dish?

Want to have seperate decoders in my living and room. Can ar?

heard that can connect 4 decoders to 1 astro byond dish...
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post May 20 2010, 01:45 PM

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I have seen LNB with 2 connectors, so this type can connect 2 byond boxes
haven't LNB with 4 connectors yet

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post May 20 2010, 01:49 PM

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er.. what is LNB?

so is there a 2 connector LNB standard with byond?


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post May 20 2010, 02:34 PM

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im using 1 byond decoder and 1 normal decoder on my byond dish
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QUOTE(Bishop @ May 20 2010, 01:21 PM)
Want to know how many decoders can I connect to one astro byond dish?

Want to have seperate decoders in my living and room. Can ar?

heard that can connect 4 decoders to 1 astro byond dish...
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