Susano SC-LX90

but the price also

Could you guys refer to me any outlets that offer very good deal for new PDP-428XG or 508XG? I cam across a few display units but not sure whether they have burn-in issues after long running on display....Cant wait to be one of you guys proud owner of Kuro plasma "Pioneer"...Thanks

Try these:

A&L, Bangsar Shopping Village (look for CT Seong somewhere in this forum, perhaps he can give you a ggod price)

Desa Home Theater, Kepong

I wish Pioneer would dump MCACC and move to Audyssey. That's my main gripe with Pioneer AV Amps...

Yes, me too. It wld be a leap fwd if Pioneer use Audyssey. MCACC is as crappy as YPAO for room acoustic correction. Imagine LX Series using Audyssey MultEQ XT and DSX.

but some of the AVS forumer prefer MCACC over Audyssey wor, saying that Audyssey would not allow you to tweak the setting after calibration///

kuro is the most resilient against burn in. tested and proven. if it has it, you ll see it immediately.

However, the filters that Audyssey engages normally have more resolution than manual band adjustments. There will always be people who like things the old fashioned way. To some, with the manual tweaking they further improve. Yes, it would be great if Audyssey allows that but its more complex than just that to allow user intervention.

I haven't tried Audyssey equipped amp yet but have tried YPAO . I think MCACC especially the Advanced MCACC in my LX71 rocks ! The before and after result is just brilliant . There are a few different time settings available for the room acoustics analysis , once u get the right one ( after tryin out a few ) , MCACC just shines !

Also , LX hd amps apply " if u don't touch it, u don't harm it " principle for HDMI video pass-thru. They dont touch HDMI video signal which means we don't have the problem inherent with many other amps whereby they kindda mess up video signal even if all the processing is turned off .
This is what drew me closer to the LX . CLass D ICE Amp and elegent looking design being the bonuses .

This post has been edited by kalido: Apr 1 2010, 08:01 PM

I am not quite familiar with Advanced MCACC compared to MCACC, maybe one day I can check out the frequency response of a advanced MCACC corrected system. The correction filters are limited to fixed bands.

Just read up about Advanced MCACC, its correction in the time domain something that Audyssey addreses.

Well, I'll check up on Advanced MCACC one day when I get the chance.

Pioneer's processing is stellar, and the source direct is pretty good.

may i know what make kuro pioneer plasma TV so expensive compare to other brand like penasonic?

50" inch Kuro cost around 20k?

just want to know thx~

I can attest to it being 'resilient' to burn in. I'm using it as my computer monitor. Been using it for hours on end and so far nothing. Not even a faint hint of a burn in.

I love my Kuro

428xg owner here.
anyone know where to get 50 ' full hd plasma (500A) ?
pls pm me the price and location. i hardly online.
thank u .

Bro,

All the answers you seek is right under your nose

Don't think anyone here is a Pioneer sales agent, we're a non-profit community

Take some time to browse this thread and you shall find the answers you seek.

In a perfect World, even LYN will be providing secretarial services

This post has been edited by serendipity168: Apr 2 2010, 10:49 AM

Where? your Seremban shop? and when...might be able to drop in..

Good question! Depending on the model you're referring to the original retail price of a 50" KURO costs more than the price you've indicated above.

In layman terms, I assume it is safe to use the analogy of comparing a Toyota and a Lexus. Loosely defined, that would mean better build quality, better performance, more bells & whistles, etc....

The main contributing $$$ factor is R&D (research & development) of the plasma panel that is produced in-house (other brands outsource). In terms of the 'black' levels, word is that the panel has a deeper cell structure, filter, high quality glass, etc.

In my own personal observation, the plasma panel is pitch black when my KURO is turned off compared to my Sammy which is a greyish. There is hardly any reflective light. Deeper black levels = higher contrast and more detailed PQ

There are a lot of comparison made between the KURO and the latest LCD/LED that is available on the Internet. To date, KURO remains the benchmark to beat even though production was ceased awhile back.

Sadly, like all things that is focused on the purist niche market and not intended for the mass market, Pioneer's KURO achievements also lead to its demise when it is not able to compete in price-point against the overcrowded cheaper HDTV alternatives out there today

I hope some TV sifu's (I know there's one forumer here ) can help explain the technical performance of the KURO as compared to the other brands/HDTV alternatives out there.

Here's a little something to show the difference in black levels



I hope this helps to a certain degree to answer your question

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Added on April 2, 2010, 10:55 amBro,

I know you're in the market for an AVR. This would be a great opportunity to check out a reference AVR.

Too bad, I'll be flying off for a biz trip again.

Do tah pau some siew pau for me on the way back, ya?

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Added on April 2, 2010, 11:10 amKudos to you for organizing this!

Allow me to echo your intention. This beauty below is definitely worth checking out if you're serious into AVR. One thing for sure, it is rarely seen as display model out there as dealers would be crazy to put it on the shelf as this beast is so flucking expensive! Hmm... I can only imagine 9.1 setup test, perhaps?



Btw - I'm also very curious about the Pioneer TAD-R1 speakers. Will it be available for testing someday too?

This post has been edited by serendipity168: Apr 3 2010, 12:37 PM

Thx for your explanation .. Now know already ..

This post has been edited by bananalow: Apr 2 2010, 08:31 PM

This dealer has a few units of LX-90 at his shop. One for demo. He has the TAD loudspeakers on demo too, which is being partnered with SVS PB13-Ultra.

FLAGSHIP AV is the sop name. Located in Waterfront @ Desa Parkcity. Look for Koh or Karen. Just tell him that Max told you to audition

Actually, Susano is from them as courtesy audition along with Bel Canto amps



Yes, shall let you know once it is here. I just want to know whether it will outperform Denon 4310 + Emo XPA-5 by big margin or not and how good it is to drive MTS-01 system

Thanks for earlier explanation.

I found one pdp508xg on display asking for sub-RM6k! Do you thing it's worth to consider as opposed to a new unit at HN for RM8999 no bargain? I was told the plasma has been on display for about a year. Questions - (1) how to check the no of running hours todate; (2) Has anyone actually hooked up a sub-woofer directly to this plasma - impact?

In my opinion, it is best to go for a new unit la.... display models especially TVs, too risky

Other than that, you probably need to check for any form of physical blemish i.e dings, scratches, etc. Remember the Pioneer panels are all in piano black

The estimated one year usage based on your description is about 4380hrs (12hrs @ retail store X 365days). You wouldn't want any problems later. Too much hassle. Btw - the sales guy claimed 1yr. How would you know for sure?

Do you still get full warranty with the display unit? 1-2yrs? I doubt it......

Then again, it's really up to you

A sub-woofer should be hooked up to an AVR instead

Good luck!

This post has been edited by serendipity168: Apr 3 2010, 03:41 PM