the more we discuss our beloved Kuro, the more I miss them.....10the Gen Kuro would have been the " TV " to rule them all ....

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Added on April 1, 2010, 8:14 amemmm....just came across this . I know it's not exactly on Pioneer PDP , but it kindda comforted me from the demise ....a bit...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fd0yFujykM&NR=1

This post has been edited by kalido: Apr 1 2010, 08:14 AM

I haven't tried Audyssey equipped amp yet but have tried YPAO . I think MCACC especially the Advanced MCACC in my LX71 rocks ! The before and after result is just brilliant . There are a few different time settings available for the room acoustics analysis , once u get the right one ( after tryin out a few ) , MCACC just shines !

Also , LX hd amps apply " if u don't touch it, u don't harm it " principle for HDMI video pass-thru. They dont touch HDMI video signal which means we don't have the problem inherent with many other amps whereby they kindda mess up video signal even if all the processing is turned off .
This is what drew me closer to the LX . CLass D ICE Amp and elegent looking design being the bonuses .

This post has been edited by kalido: Apr 1 2010, 08:01 PM

yeap....LX is the premium range with all the bells and whistes

Amongst others, all of the 09/10 LX receivers ( except 51/52 ) features power amp stages build on B&O's much acclaimed ICEPower amplifier modules. A very popular Class-D design that has been putting a bit of smile on the faces of many hardcore audiophiles.
If I'm not wrong , Pioneer is the first manufacturer to introduce HD receivers incorporating such amplification.
They were also the first manufacturer to research and incorporate room analysis feature in form of the very first MCACC which is in its advanced form in these latest bunch of receivers. They're Pioneers indeed

And talkin bout the bluray players , the LX features Pioneer's own SoC chip and provides excellent video processing . It also features PQLS locking which when paired with PQLS receivers ( such as the LX receivers ) produces a jitter free digital signal transmission via HDMI.

This post has been edited by kalido: Apr 9 2010, 02:25 PM

The reason i guess why 51/52 are still consided LX is because they share many of the feature found on the higher echelon models and only lack a few of the more advanced feautes .

So being on border of high-end and mid , and offering pretty much most of the high-end features, Pioneer must have decided it's better to just label them as LX .

Regarding the LX BDP, as I'v mentioned above , they certainly boost more feautes compared to the none LX version. How useful they are , certainly comes down to buyer I guess.

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Added on April 9, 2010, 2:44 pmthat too ! And not to forget , the THX label as well !

This post has been edited by kalido: Apr 9 2010, 02:44 PM

The Class D implementation in the form of B&O's ICEPower modules seem to have elevated Pioneer Susano concept ( SC ) receivers to a different league altogether. Nothing wrong with AB amps in the VSX series but ICEPower certainly is different sounding and in fact many reviewers have found them to sound just rite with nice warmth compared to the VSX range. Well I for one have experienced that myself.
The LX71 certainly sounds crisp and warm for normal stereo listening which I've never experienced with my previous VXS receivers. But then , I've never had a top end VSX before just the normals ones

Besides, my previous receivers or amps have never run this cool before , the SC amps gets a little warm and stays that way.
I've also observed the current intake just to work out the power consumption, believe it or not...it stays a constant 0.5A at 240V . That's like 120W consumption for such a powerful amplifier . I've also tried pushin it to it's limits by directing all the sub bass to my main floorstander ( wharfy 9.6 ) and played back one of my favorite bass scenes ever ! Bruce banner's ravage in the factory in glorious DTS-HD MA. The max current draw I've seen is around 1.2A and that was for a very quick while. So that shows how efficient these amps are. And that's without loosing any dynamics .
While we're here, just for an info- my Pioneer Plasma takes in a constant 1 to 1.5A !

This post has been edited by kalido: Apr 12 2010, 09:49 AM

I've tried that on mine ,pretty good stuff i reckon. Though i only started breakin in the tv after around 100 hours of normal usage...lol

new ones feature marvell for video processing , that's a big leap ! can't wait to hear bout da new LX range, usually Pioneer would release them a few moons after the VSX range.

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Added on April 23, 2010, 10:02 pminteresting ... I was always under the impression it was a pure 36 bits ( or 12 bits per component ) deep Color panel.
Anfield,could u care to explain why the general consensus is such pls, just curious

This post has been edited by kalido: Apr 23 2010, 10:04 PM

the lx-71/81 uses the Advanced MCACC as well though I can't recall it being 6 different points, since I've never done it for more then 1 ( my sweet spot hehe ) . But pretty sure it supports for at least 2 or 3 different position goin by me memory.

A good method of tuning ur system one fine afternoon when u have a few hours in hand, is running the advanded Eq setup with different time position and Eq type . Do a reverb measurement for each setting to see which gives u the smoothest response. In my living 10-30 yielded a satisfactory result which was more then audible when compared to just running the auto.

now, what speakers are u guys usin for the SC-LX receivers ? I'm in market for upgrade ....

err...I guess I should have had indicated my budget first ! lol..... certainly not enough to move up to sonus range le... and I don't really like the toy series either.

Was thinkin of something a lil bit above the Wharfedale Diamond range from the makes of Paradigm,PSB, Kef, tannoy...( u know the pitch )

the revels are looking pretty impressive on spec ... bookshelf +/- 1.5 down to 65hz This is sweet . How do they sound in general ? I'd like to stay away from Wharfedale kindda sound signature, I find the wharys too warm hence dull sounding in my system.