BenQ Joybook S41 Winner of Germany reddot Design Award 2007

Centrino Platform: Santa Rosa/Satnta Rosa Refresh
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T7100/T7250/T7300/T7500/T8100
Chipset: Intel PM965 + ICH8-M
Graphic: Nvidia GeForce 8600M GS 256MB GDDR3
Wireless: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
Monitor: 14.1" UltraVivid @ 1280x800, 16ms response time
Weight: 2.4kg with battery

BenQ Joybook S41.5 (NON-OFFICIAL)
Centrino Platform: Santa-vina (cuz more Santa Rosa parts than Montevina parts )
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T7500
Chipset: Intel GM45 + ICH9-M
Graphic: Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT 256MB GDDR3, Intel Graphic Media Accelerator X4500MHD
Wireless: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
Monitor: 14.1" UltraVivid @ 1280x800, 16ms response time
Weight: 2.4kg with battery

BenQ Joybook S42

Centrino Platform: Montevina
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo P8400/P8600/P8700
Chipset: Intel GM45 + ICH9-M
Graphic: Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT 256MB GDDR3, Intel Graphic Media Accelerator X4500MHD
Wireless: Intel WiFi Link 5300
Monitor: 14.1" UltraVivid @ 1280x800, 8ms response time
Weight: 2.4kg with battery
Windows Experience Index (C2D P8600)


BenQ Joybook S57

Centrino Platform: Montevina
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo P8700
Chipset: Intel PM45 + ICH9-M
Graphic: AMD-ATi Mobility Radeon HD 4650 512MB DDR3
Wireless: Intel WiFi Link 5100
Monitor: 15.6" UltraVivid @ 1366x768, 8ms response time
Weight: 2.8kg with battery
Windows Experiene Index

Told you this is a performance thread. We dun use standard BenQ drivers. Try the following if you dare.

Chipset Software Installation Utility: Click Here (Intel)

Wireless: 4965AGN (Intel) 5300 and 5100 (Intel)

HD Audio: Click Here (Realtek)

PhysX (for GeForce only): Click Here (LV2G)

Graphic: Forceware for GeForce M - LaptopVideo2Go (modded) Nvidia (original) Catalyst for Mobility Radeon - Do Not Argue (modded) AMD (original) DriverHeaven Mobility Modder (to mod original Catalyst)
DirectX: Click Here (Microsoft) (Requires Genuine Windows )

Touchpad: Click Here (LV2G) Modded Synaptics Driver with Multi-Touch (My Digital Life)

Driver Sweeper: Click Here (Guru3D)

How to do a clean update of graphic driver:


Done with the drivers??? Good, now let's check it out.

CPU-Z (Displays info abt your CPU, mobo and RAM): Click Here (CPUID)

GPU-Z (Displays info abt your graphic accelerator): Click Here (TechPowerUp)

CoreTemp (Monitor the temperature of your CPU): Click Here (CoreTemp)

HWMonitor (Monitor fan speed, temperature and voltage): Click Here (CPUID)

RivaTuner (Overclock and monitor your GPU, comes with framerate detection): Click Here (Guru3D)

ATi Tool: (Another handy overclocking tool, supports Radeon and GeForce): Click Here (TechPowerUp)

SiSoftware Sandra (System ANalyser, Diagnostic and Reporting Assistant): Click Here (Guru3D)

3D Mark 06 (Check out how your GPU performs): Click Me (Guru3D)

Benchmarking / Game screenshots
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S42 - Courtesy of DoubleU


S57 - Courtesy of rd33


Price (updated 10/01/2010, for reference only)

Top 10 Off-topic-ers for V19


Top 10 BenQ Geek of V18

UBUNTU INSTALLATION GUIDE



LINK FOR GAMES BENCHMARK

INSTALLING DOX MODDED DRIVER FOR S42~BBXiong Style

For users that use BenQ S42 that have problem installing hybrid graphic (Dox modded 185.85)..refer to the steps below, as it already been tested by BBX for a 60%??? successful rate of installation...works for x86



AS REQUESTED ----> Dox Modded 195.62 (32/64 bit)

ANOTHER HYBRID DRIVER -----> Nautis 190.38 (32/64 bit)

This post has been edited by monza84: Mar 29 2010, 06:36 AM

lets continue discussion

do i see an exclamation mark on the title???

what the eff? v20 already... congrats.

onto business, why teh mark?

Okay, everything is fine now.
Removed the mark, add thumbnails.

Continue with your spamming discussions peeps

someone close the old thread...it's still open...later got people go there and post without knowing this new version...
Btw, welcome back fabianz..

Need evo to closed the old thread because he is the TS there...

dang...that would be me lo..i posted there just now..

anyway, who is emailing mr yap? can help me ask if it's possible to change thermal paste to GPU also? also, who knows where to buy thermal sticker? or normal IT shop got sell one..and is there any nice brand/type of thermal sticker??

I can help you to email Mr Yap..because want to ask about my laptop also, when can send in for a major clean-up...about the thermal sticker, well some normal IT shop should have it ...well, got to check though

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Added on February 1, 2010, 3:44 pmIs the V19 top posters correct ..how come mia got no1..i tot i should be someone else

This post has been edited by monza84: Feb 1 2010, 03:45 PM

Only could find thermal paste at shop, none of the sticker

i still prefer thermal paste...

This post has been edited by astria: Feb 1 2010, 03:45 PM

@lee
Sarawak here got..i know some of the IT shops that sell those rare stuffs ..well, maybe because been lurking around those shops for quite a long time now

selling for how much?

@BBX
Do i need to copy your installation guides on Dox modded drivers in V19..because you said, it sometime works sometimes not ...enlighten me bro

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Added on February 1, 2010, 3:49 pmCan't give you the exact price now..need to ask my friend first...been quite long since i buy this kind of stuff

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Added on February 1, 2010, 3:50 pm@astria
I also prefer paste over sticker but for laptop sometime paste just doesn't well fitted so the only choice would be sticker

This post has been edited by monza84: Feb 1 2010, 03:50 PM

bending the cooling system might fill the gap

err...just copy bah...if don work can just post here, maybe i try look into it..

@lee: i tried that..with wrong angle, WoW login screen gives me 110C GPU...so, think twice if u wanna do that

OK bos, right on command..i go copy now

@lee
Well, there's risk when want to do that..just like BBX case where he bent it wrongly and the temp shoot right up

Hello ,all. my benQ adapter that has a problem when i open the shift button on wall socket , the light of adapter remain off. I had spent some time to check the cable(which connect the adapter to wall socket to get the voltage) and adapter.

Then , i tried my previous cable that use for my acer laptop.when i use acer cable connect to benQ adapater,it is working. The light is power on..yahooo...

but may i know should i exchange one new benQ adapter with BenQ service center? i check the benQ adapter ,but it is look like this ...(click the picture to view)
http://www.busytrade.com/upload/images/200...70729222238.jpg

so ...i should go to service center to get a new due to my laptop warranty is still not expire yet.or my warranty for battery is nt include tat cable?

Better got and get a new adapter from Service Center...seems to me that your power cable (which connects the adapter to the wall socket) must be spoiled...call BenQ SC first ask them can change a.s.a.p or not

perhaps,
after some thinking, even if I tried on my acer, I can't measure the temp since none for intel gpu
and trying it on others laptop, not feasible...

this is my earliest reporting in since like v8 i think.... hahahahahha
oh yea, are you sure can measure the 9600 temp when on intel? cause i can't

Only in macs you can (macbooks and such). On PC laptops the graphics card does not include any sensor on mac , it uses alternate sensor to get GPU temperature. Its optional , by default to cut down cost its not included

@prasys
Care to elaborate more about this, kinda confused with this statement ...what do you mean by :

"on pc laptops the graphics card does not include any sensor on mac'

Enlighten me bro

Report for v20~
gotten a damn busy week..
anyway~WC back high/faz/evo and ahem* mia..

BB, i will email mr.yap tomolo when i get back to office,
what you want to ask? thermal paste application on GPU?
i'll tubang ur question when i email him my purchase receipt, also want to ask him about 2nd year warranty things..

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Added on February 1, 2010, 6:39 pmone more thing.
i always wonder how do you people count the post of individual for the previous V??

This post has been edited by wanttobuylaptop: Feb 1 2010, 06:39 PM

@ astria,
Tried to install the catalyst 10.1 modded with ATI mobility Modder but fail to install....back to 9.7 again...

oh right...

so that means it's not me...

Just did a check on ATI Mobility Modder's forum...Catalyst 10.1 is current not supported..They are working on it...And they say that ATI is helping in the Modder project...Wow...
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/hardwareheav...yst-10-1-a.html

This post has been edited by highwind85: Feb 1 2010, 06:55 PM

..ATi is also doing modding ..this way good ...seems like even pros need the non-official pro to make it works

en, is normal ati is helping with modder project
same goes in linux driver. ATI is more willing than nvidia in developing gpu driver for linux..
which is maintained by community

Never thought ATI would lend a hand to the modder community...I used to use Omega Drivers last time...But they have stopped coming out with new drivers...Thought the manufacturers wouldn't care about lappy graphics...

wow, i never knew this fact..thanks for sharing want...btw, ATi always seems way generous that NV if comes to drivers ...even their pricing also cheaper

haha...
normally in linux distro, if the card is ati, there will be ways to come around the restriction
if the card is nvidia...
normally the community will say: sorry, cannot help..
however, there are rumours saying nvidia will make the driver become open source,
but dunno when..and is only a rumours

oh great, finally some non-official official support from AMD...

i guess AMD is frustrated with the lack of driver support from the laptop makers themselves.. .since they are the one who requested ATi back then not to release driver for mobility cards in their site...

Inside ur graphics card there is a diode , it measures the degree of hotness and reports to the system , thats how you get temperature. On graphcis card with onboard video from Intel , there is no such thing as this 'thermometer' because intel graphics card are soo cool (and soo useless) they rarely ever get hot.

Anyway , those who asked about thermal paste - Get Tuniq-TX3. Its thick but its non conductive or artic silver 5. Some say its non conducive , but others do say it is . When getting a thermal paste , MAKE SURE ITS NOT CONDUCTIVE. If its conductive , abit of paste in othe component ,poof short circuit occurs and your laptop will be 'BBQ'ed'

prasys, what about Tuniq TX-2? Currently using that. Would TX-3 make any changes?

This post has been edited by lee_what2004: Feb 1 2010, 11:14 PM

info from these sites: they all say it's not conductive...looks like imma getting one soon

http://hardwarebistro.com/index.php?option...Compound-Review

http://www.overclockercafe.com/Reviews/oth...isc/Tuniq_TX-3/

http://www.tuniq.com.tw/accessories/tx3.html

Yes, now i understand what actually prasys mean by his statement

Well, right now using TX-3 non conductive as i read before that conductive paste would fry the board if any of the paste make contact with the board

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Added on February 1, 2010, 11:33 pmJust like BBX posted, TX-3 is a non-conductive thermal paste which is

This post has been edited by monza84: Feb 1 2010, 11:33 PM

plus, as reviews already mention, it's better then TX-2, which is already damn freaking good in the first place...

so, i'll order 1 and apply to just the GPU...the processor one i think gap too big, cos i see the layer of thermal sticker being pressed down, the processor part still quite thick, means having quite big gap, i don think it's suitable for thermal paste...

Yup, used TX-2 before and i really can say that quite impressive as i use TX-3 ...maybe i should do what BBX want to do, applied some onto my GPU...but the CPU one, i think need sticker as you mention the gap is quite big

This post has been edited by monza84: Feb 1 2010, 11:40 PM

USB 3.0 potential successor (or perhaps USB 2.0 successor)...

Light Peak... 10Gbps (Gigabits per sec), using fiber optics instead of copper wires...

the irony is, Intel is one of leaders in the whole project... reason y it postpone support for USB 3.0???

Making me wanna try TX-3.
Any idea how to fill the gap without using the sticker?

i hand itchy want to get one for my desktops...

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Added on February 1, 2010, 11:51 pmbtw, i ve been transferring stuff from my WD My Passport to the new HDD... have been doing it since 3pm... still need 2 more hours...

This post has been edited by astria: Feb 1 2010, 11:51 PM

@lee: hammer smash..haha..got one dude from benyouhui actually used hammer to lightly smack the heatsink to it's proper contact, with a piece of cloth in between of something like that...his move is not invalid, but too risky, i'd rather i bend the heatsink like how i did to mine, don wanna accidentally hammer too strong and break the GPU instead...

Doubt if using hammer would make the heatsink touch the GPU since its would give kinda an angle, not letting fully contact with the GPU

ehm, what about using aluminium foil, fold it up to square then put some paste.... Would it transfer heat better than the sticker?

This post has been edited by lee_what2004: Feb 2 2010, 12:38 AM

probably, but still, the foil could move anywhere once u carry ur laptop around, and it's still metal..

Yup, just like astria mentioned...the problem if using foil would be it could move around when we carry the laptop around ...and its metal some more, could cause circuit-fry

I think using hammer is ...better to bend it than to smack it, later overpower smack will break the GPU/CPU, no??

Another excuse for a new notebook, no?

Got to have money a lot then maybe can think that way lor ..well, even i dun dare to smack the CPU/GPU to make it fit, it just wrong ..maybe like you suggested before, use copper to replace the sticker maybe a nice solution, never try though

no mah...if u use those big hammer gently hammer the heatsink right, it would bend...honestly, the heatsink is surprisingly not as hard as i imagined....allu foil actually possible one..., u apply thermal paste both side, then it would stick there liao mah...but still, i don think allu foil gonna make proper contact

huh~
I still hv two syringe of Tunix-Tx3 ^.^
how do i need to change thermal paste ?? ald 7 months i heavily used my laptop after 1st change of thermal paste ~

Well, dun really know about laptop..but usually desktop change the paste - in routine (6 months due)...laptop usually use thermal sticker instead of paste which is kinda hard to find ...

Maybe you can open up your laptop and try

im using s42. i want to install ubuntu. currently im running on windows 7. if i downgrade to xp bios, should i still able to run my windows 7?

Yes, you can still run your Win 7...but you'll lose the hybrid option ..

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Added on February 2, 2010, 12:05 pmNo need to flashed to XP BIOS also can install Ubuntu

This post has been edited by monza84: Feb 2 2010, 12:05 PM

how to setup the hybrid configuration then? mind to teach me? or just install as normal + the command line for enable keyboard and pad?

til now no one has installed ubuntu in s42 to test out the hybrid GPU...
however i would (possible) test out how the hybrid GPU works in linux mint tonite, if i got the time..
maybe if mint has no problem in s42, u may consider switch into mint instead..

got la...tested long long time ago..
but there is no driver for it...so u run the card u last use on windows(let's say u use nvidia card at windows and restart to ubuntu, it will use nvidia card)..however, although u are using one card, both are will be active, and in the end, draw more power, so no point also

never know...
if fresh install terus ubuntu then which card will be used?
but then...in linux no much gaming also..
4500 will handle with ease~

Well, for newcomers for sure won't know about this as well already been discussing Ubuntu in S42 like in V7,V8 like that and our master poison (weiyap_tan) been diving for a while now ..

Just like BBX said, the last card that you use will be the default card on for Ubuntu but the problem lies with both of the cards on which will drain more battery life ...

Well, for normal usage, Linux distros would be a nice choice...if into games better stick with windows

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Added on February 2, 2010, 12:51 pmWait ..me is newcomer also, how come i know this stuff...maybe got memory loss

This post has been edited by monza84: Feb 2 2010, 12:51 PM

aiyo...because someone is Missing In Action ma...
anyway, i've try to search in Mint forum,
it seems that mint also have problem in support hybrid gpu..
looks like a linux problem not distro specific..

Will do , as long its a thermal paste. Since TX3 is new I recommended that. It does not matter , apply it and temps should drop

@prasys
Ever tried putting the thermal paste onto CPU/GPU in laptop?? The one that usually they put thermal sticker ..maybe you got experience can share with us

@want
Well, i guess that would be it as Linux won't have any support from NV to create drivers for hybrid, even in Window rarely we see update for hybrid ones ...

Hi guys ~
Wanna know does DoX still provide drivers for XP ?

@fab
Sorry fab, Dox doesn't do XP drivers no more...he just modding Vista & 7 for the moment ..maybe you can try the 19x modded series for XP, some of them are quite nice

Thermal pads ? Its made of paraffin wax. On my u100 , there were not any (cheapo guys). Applying a bit of thermal paste should do the trick. But this requires some careful stuff

i'LL take a picture or two later on with my U100.

But what if there's a gap couple mm? Any suggestion to fill that gap?

Did the same thing with my friends Acer, need to put a bit of the thermal paste will fill up the gap...

Pictures explain everything ..can give us later on will do good

You mean by putting alot more to make up the height?
But isn't thermal paste meant to be as thin as possible?

@lee
No lah...mine just put a little bit of thermal paste onto the sticker, not much...and then i did bent it a bit so that it won't have much gap ...but need to be careful lor, wrong bent will cause temp shoot-up ..like BBX did

@monza: i think it's kinda easy to see one..if u over bend it, u can see the edge side of the heatsink(the further out part) bend upwards if u bend it too much, if u bend it nicely, then it would be u see the thermal sticker finally being pressed down and have proper contact with our GPU memory

You can actually inject thermal paste in a laptop ?
Now I'm interested...

just need to open the notebook, pretty much same with desktop
warranty is another story

Do the same way like a desktop ?
But laptop proc doesn't have a heatsink...

I suck at laptops ~ >.<

but for ppl like me with warranty over...hehehe..itchy hand is a must

got heatsink lah
this is when last time I open my acer


Attached thumbnail(s)

So that orange thing is the heatsink ?
OMG you are daring to open it up lol
I scared when I open it up I can't get the parts back in. >.<

the silver and the copper would be the heatsink
well, last time notebook is overheating... need some emergency measure

I see... Is it risky to inject thermal paste on a laptop ?

Well, by default, it already got its own thermal paste, but who knows what kind of it
As long you get the one non-conductive and didn't spill too much at the surrounding, should be fine.

I see... thanks..
BTW what model is your Acer ?
Can this be done to the s42 too ?

Acer Aspire 5551 ANWXCi, as stated on my sig
S42 sure can, can say all notebook should be able, as long you manage to open the notebook and get access to the cpu and heatsink...
BBX already opened S42 before, can ask him how

Haha okay....
xD

Too afraid to open the s42... Not mine...

the heat talking is insanely hot...
anyway, i want to ask, about a fool-proof alternative...
cos i am afraid i am too stupid to open up the lappy...
u guys know there is a notebook cooler that sort of attached a fan at the exhaust of the laptop, thus suck out the hot air inside the lappy..
does it works, to any extent?
cos i planning to get one~

tried it, not working much XD
its has much better usage in rerouting the heat path from hitting the hand

This post has been edited by lee_what2004: Feb 2 2010, 03:57 PM

Yea, there's something like that, I saw it in garage sales bfore...

This one good?? can make the laptop cooler meh?? ..

It plugs in the back of the 'exaust' in the notebook...
Where hot air is pumped out...

This baby I think sucks the hot even faster lol

But still, got a few type of venting unit can use it..those with horizontal one i guess cannot

Yea, those vertical ones can...
Not sure about it... It seems that this product very less in the market...

yaya tat one...
but i saw de comes without cord~
not working ah...darn..

oh mia is back...now monza is freezed already?