Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V36!, The Orange Legion
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 Feb 10 2010, 11:04 PM
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Like that should change your siggy already ler...
"Braindead's Tamron 17-50mm fund - 100%"  It's your choice anyway rite? hehehe... even though your reasoning somehow doesn't seem right to me (Except for the price part)... but, that's just me... Should go and test it out 1st yo... |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:05 PM
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braindead_fr3ak: go with what your shooting style tells you. or else, next time ownself dun wan use, lagi rugi
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Feb 10 2010, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Feb 10 2010, 10:59 PM) hahaha.. ok guys....lemme explain my decision... my motivation is: go go go get it!iq wise according to the reviews... the ziess is VERY dasyat... it exceeds the sensors resolution ...but only in the centre... the 17-50 tammy...does not differ MUCH...from the ziess... the tammy how ever is a f2.8 lens..which i really like as i prefer street and also portrait phots.. the tammy is soft at f2.8 but EXtremely sharp at f4..... whereas the ziess STARTS at f3.5 which is 2/3 stops lower... i dont really like harsh flash photos so...im going with the tammy... furthermore...i got big palms....the ziess..is slightly bigger than a kittie only....i feel larh...not comfy wheras the tammy.. ehhehe..... 62mm vs 67mm no?.. then comes the price range...the tammy will cost me arnd 1k plus where the ziess will be 2k plus....although i know the range is different... but when i played with the zeiss... it didnt "ngam" with me....maybe i play with tammie then i know the diff..so now..target tammy... ahahahah  ha ha ha.. its worthless to buy a ferrari if u cant drive it properly eh? |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:25 PM
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hmmmmmmm... jus had a conversation with a 17-50 user...very insightful...it appears that the 1750 has a new incarnation..the 17-50 vc.... ..research research!!
 ... wanna confirm if its alpha mount...This post has been edited by braindead_fr3ak: Feb 10 2010, 11:26 PM |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:28 PM
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6,659 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: KL/PJ/USJ/Puchong/KKB, Sel. 
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Feb 10 2010, 11:25 PM) hmmmmmmm... jus had a conversation with a 17-50 user...very insightful...it appears that the 1750 has a new incarnation..the 17-50 vc.... ..research research!! No~ VC only for C n N~... wanna confirm if its alpha mount... |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Feb 10 2010, 11:28 PM) No~ VC only for C n N~ yeah .... VC only available for Canon and Nikon module however the size of it is much fatter than the non-VC ... 72mm -> 67mm |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Feb 10 2010, 11:25 PM) hmmmmmmm... jus had a conversation with a 17-50 user...very insightful...it appears that the 1750 has a new incarnation..the 17-50 vc.... ..research research!! only for C and N and it costs few hundred bucks more... wanna confirm if its alpha mount... |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:32 PM
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crap..... hahahah... i found out the same thing... so the ultimate zoom for apsc on sony...
16-80 ziess 1750 tammy gosh gosh..any one with good zooms to compare? |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Feb 10 2010, 11:32 PM) crap..... hahahah... i found out the same thing... so the ultimate zoom for apsc on sony... Tamron A09? Full Frame version of the 1750, cheaper than 1750 also16-80 ziess 1750 tammy gosh gosh..any one with good zooms to compare? This post has been edited by zergling: Feb 10 2010, 11:38 PM |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:39 PM
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 rhino.. taken by Sony a550 + CZ16-80  cousin.. taken by Sony a230 + Sony 16-105 This post has been edited by destfull: Feb 10 2010, 11:47 PM |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:42 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « WIN!!! braindead_fr3ak go get the Z  |
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Feb 10 2010, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Feb 10 2010, 11:32 PM) crap..... hahahah... i found out the same thing... so the ultimate zoom for apsc on sony... sigma 17-70 2.8 also not bad16-80 ziess 1750 tammy gosh gosh..any one with good zooms to compare? |
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Feb 11 2010, 12:03 AM
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hmmm... interesting... sigma..i dont really favour... seems like their lens suffers from poor iq and inconsistencys... oh well..looks like ill be zeissing after cny then...
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Feb 11 2010, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(destfull @ Feb 10 2010, 11:39 PM) rhino.. taken by Sony a550 + CZ16-80 cousin.. taken by Sony a230 + Sony 16-105 (this reply is not reply to the poster, to the people who are so keen and tied to CZ lens, wake up plsss  )the photo cant be compared that way, it was edited, and dont tell ppl that the the first photo has better color? what color? i cant see it ~~>.<~~ even my 1870kitty can do that and another thing is, one is cmos, other is CCD.as for sharpness... some ppl say 1680 sharp, some say 1680 sharp. the sharpness cant be compare subjectively  if wan to shoot sharp, use F8 oh, then defeat the purpose of having all those F3/5-5/6 or F3/5 to F4 arguement?.... lol*edit: paiseh, ter-CAPLocks. This post has been edited by ieR: Feb 11 2010, 12:08 AM |
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Feb 11 2010, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Feb 11 2010, 12:03 AM) hmmm... interesting... sigma..i dont really favour... seems like their lens suffers from poor iq and inconsistencys... oh well..looks like ill be zeissing after cny then... zeiss i am sure you will love it... |
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Feb 11 2010, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Feb 11 2010, 12:03 AM) hmmm... interesting... sigma..i dont really favour... seems like their lens suffers from poor iq and inconsistencys... oh well..looks like ill be zeissing after cny then... with all the angpow money from CNY, zeiss itu sap sap sui only~ go for it |
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 Feb 11 2010, 12:13 AM
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Ehh
 Sorry, tak perasan about comparing about the lens.. yeah the photos are PP'edanyway this is the real source: cousin - http://blog.izuddinhelmi.com/wp-content/up...2/DSC035791.jpg badak - http://blog.izuddinhelmi.com/wp-content/up...2/DSC063451.jpg it depends on person actually, if got zeiss but still noob like me, you'll get ugly pictures like in my flickr.. hehe  |
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Feb 11 2010, 12:19 AM
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ahhaha... i think the zeiss would work great with a a700....the
AF mechanism is based on contrast mar...and zeiss glass is VERY contrasty!..... so even if it was a f3.5 it actually would be able to focus in lower light than a f 2.8 tammy.... this is my hypothesis....... albert...can confirm? This post has been edited by braindead_fr3ak: Feb 11 2010, 12:19 AM |
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Feb 11 2010, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(ieR @ Feb 11 2010, 12:03 AM) if wan to shoot sharp, use F8 oh, then defeat the purpose of having all those F3/5-5/6 or F3/5 to F4 arguement?.... lol err...by right..a good lens shd be sharp from F/2.8(or lower) to F/20(or higher)...the increase of F stop only increase the dept of field..sharpness should be there from the start...but i think thats theory la...reality wise..well..i dont know much..lol |
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Feb 11 2010, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 10 2010, 08:15 PM) cjlai: how u get the fly shot? i mean.. wont it fly away if u approach? go low n slow.... fly dun normally fly away so fast |
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