can u try again?

1. power off ur decoder. switch the power off.
2. go to satelite settings and choose #18, then accept it when prompted a choice of yes and no.
3. after this you should see OK button on the bottom left.
4. press OK and u r done!

if not done properly u wont see the OK button. this is what happened to me. then it will be reset to #1 again.

Doing this serves no purpose all you are doing is pointing the box at a different default transponder, this means the signal strength indication is simply measuring a stronger transponder. The signal strength for entry point 1 will always be the same, even if you measure entry point 18.

It's like saying if you switch the light on in the kitchen the light in the fridge will stay on when you close the door! The two are unrelated!

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Added on January 15, 2010, 11:13 pmThe digital audio connection is for 5.1 and the HDMI is stereo to the TV. No decoder has two HDMI's.

This post has been edited by AstInst: Jan 15 2010, 11:13 PM

1) The SD ch PQ will be much more better with a decent component cable.

2) The astro remote volume control is only meant for analog audio out. Digital coax is for amplifier which has its own volume control.

3) you can use coax to your av amp or use HDMI to your av amp (that support such function) first and connect from av amp to the TV.

4) this is the problem with astro and hope that they will equalize the level before broadcast. Nothing we can do.

5) It is just a transponder setting. You are not changing satellite. The gain from the transponder varies. Different channel uses different transponder.

Hope that help.

Anyone here very sure that once we subscribe to byond, we will be able to cancel it after April because my auntie who work in an electrical company said that we have to subscribe it at least a year before we are allowed to cancel it. Do we really 'subscribe' it from now till April? How does it work?

yep, the T&C said so..minimum 1 year subscription...then u can terminate it

Hye..
I just want to know..is the PQ of SD channels on Byond decoder really bad compared to the old decoder?
If so, can anyone show me what a component cable looks like and how to fix it to the Byond decoder?
I'm not quite good at these things..Just trying to read and learn here bout these things..
My Byond installer coming tomorrow..
Anyone can help?
Thank you

This post has been edited by dxjb: Jan 16 2010, 12:19 AM

here you are, component video primer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video

Hi all..
I just want some help and a few tips..
I am expecting my Byond installer tomorrow..
I am not an expert in fixing these hi-tech stuff so really need ur help..

1. What should I do once the installer leaves? Should I update the firmware 1st? How do I do this?

2. How do I change the satellite #? People say #18 better than #1..
Can anyone tell me the steps?

3. How do I fix the SD and HD volume problem if it occurs? The steps if anyone can help out?

This 3 things are the most important things I would like to know..
I see a lot of people here who are helpful..
Hope you guys can help teach me..
Thank you

Those who want to split the HDMI signal, you can buy a HDMI splitter like the ones at Monoprice (import). Theirs are HDCP compliant, which means that you won't get video "snow".

What you must remember is that the setup for all rooms that the signal is split must be identical. That is, if the living room has a 5.1 sound system via a HDMI receiver, the other room must also be 5.1 compliant or at the very least, the TV can downconvert 5.1 DD to stereo. I don't think this HD split signal can work any other way because using the coax digital out, you'd need to split that audio signal as well.


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Hi tks203, thank you man. got all the info i need frm u

The old decoder video is analog signal (s-video or composite) and your HD TV will perform the upscaling to fill the HD screen. The byond decoder via the HDMI is a digital signal already scaled to fit HD screen so the TV will not use its scaler. Usually the TV scaler processor is much more powerful than that of the decoder and yield better quality picture. Therefore, the byond decoder viewing SD via HDMI will look worst because the scaling create lots of artifacts. To me it is not quite acceptable.

Using analog signal (component) from Byond is another story. Now the TV will use its scaler to fit the HD screen and the picture will be better. Given that the component signal is better than s-video, the results will be much better than the old decoder.

So, the question of whether Byond decoder SD is bad or good depends on the connections you use.

Most TV has both component and HDMI inputs. You can connect both of them and watch SD and HD with component and HDMI respectively.

Component cable is with 3 RCA jack, Red, Blue and Green. Buy a reasonable quality one, usually cost less than RM100.

from my observation - through the HDMI source, SD is not that bad actually...just try to adjust the colour tv if you're not happy...

i've also used the component output from beyond to my LCD's component in - not sure why but i still prefer SD via the HDMI source...

so yeah...just try both inputs for SD - no harm there

No. If you set to analog/digital you'll get stereo or Pro-logic (if u set ur AVR to theatre mode). But u'll get sound frm TV also for SD & HD channel.

U must opt for DD5.1 to get DD5.1 through ur AVR (set ur AVR to Auto sorround mode to detect DD5.1) only for HD channels (but no sound frm TV
'cos HDMI can carry 5.1). U'll get sound for SD channels frm TV & AVR).

DD5.1 will appear to all HD channels, but the real 5.1 effect for those ecoded DD5.1 (ie movies HBOHD or HD Geo etc).

The old decoder video is analog signal (s-video or composite) and your HD TV will perform the upscaling to fill the HD screen. The byond decoder via the HDMI is a digital signal already scaled to fit HD screen so the TV will not use its scaler. Usually the TV scaler processor is much more powerful than that of the decoder and yield better quality picture. Therefore, the byond decoder viewing SD via HDMI will look worst because the scaling create lots of artifacts. To me it is not quite acceptable.

Using analog signal (component) from Byond is another story. Now the TV will use its scaler to fit the HD screen and the picture will be better. Given that the component signal is better than s-video, the results will be much better than the old decoder.

So, the question of whether Byond decoder SD is bad or good depends on the connections you use.

Most TV has both component and HDMI inputs. You can connect both of them and watch SD and HD with component and HDMI respectively.

Component cable is with 3 RCA jack, Red, Blue and Green. Buy a reasonable quality one, usually cost less than RM100.

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Hye..
It's me again
The colours of the cable id Red, Green and Blue?
So the Yellow, Red and White is not needed?
Im afraid to go to the shop and maybe be con
Less than RM100? How much is the range?
So is there any brand I should go for?
So the cable is called component cable right?

thx for info...will try that soon...

btw - during the installation, the installer was impressed with my existing rg-6 Astro cable coz has said that it has a much thicker center copper cable than the one he brought for Beyond install. He said that my old cable has a much better quality than the newer one Astro supplies with Beyond.

I've been using the Astro cables for nearly 10 years - and from what i understand copper is always a good signal conductor, the thicker the better, so i'm sure he was not just mumbling the fact out. But not sure if he mentioned this coz he malas to change the cable...hehe... - but i don't mind, as long as they work.

Also, the new cables seems thinner and 'softer'... but he gave me the whole roll nonetheless...and after installation, he said my HD signal is quite strong - forgot the actual readings but it was nearly full bar...and he thinks that the old more-quality cable has probably helped the signal to be good...

HDMI does not support 5.1 you can only get 5.1 via a digital audio coax.

and there is no dolby on SD channels in fact dolby only happens on some programmes on HD.

if you getting "surround sound" and you aren't using digital audio coax then your amp is simulating it via an effect and it isn't true

This post has been edited by TVSPY: Jan 16 2010, 01:27 AM

HDMI can support 5.1 (can support 7.1 max), but only in PCM. So Dolby cannot get through HDMI, but PCM audio can. The Astro decoder need to decode the 5.1 audio and send it through HDMI. But Astro being Astro, lazy, just send either DD bitstream or 2.0 PCM stream straight from satellite signal to HDMI, no option to decode dd bitstream into 5.1 PCM audio and send through HDMI.

It's possible to split, but very expensive... Need HDMI Splitter that support HDCP, then for every 15M of HDMI cable, a repeater (which must also support HDCP). Alternatively you can use a HDMI to CAT5e converter and a CAT5e to HDMI converter instead of repeaters (which of course need to support HDCP as well). Not really worth the money. Better to try request sub b.yond decoders than try to split. That's why you see a lot of people forgoing HD on second TV and still using poor man RF output with a AV to RF modulator instead to split from the b.yond box. RF modulator=~RM15-50 (depend on whether quality of image is important to you), reuse back old cables. HDMI splitter+repeater=~RM1000++, need new cabling and power points be installed every 15M.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Jan 16 2010, 02:49 AM

Oh, that is not component cable. That is err, I know it as a PlayStation 2 or PlayStation 3 default cable. It's low quality coz the yellow cable carries all the visual signals while the red and white cable carries right and left sound respectively (stereo).

Component cable is capable of displaying visuals up to 1080i while the 'default PS2/PS3' cable can only do 480i/p and/or 560i/p? Kinda.. But the point is component is better. Way better. (But of course no match to HDMI) And yes, the colors of component cable is Red, Green and Blue which means it carry the signals of the cable color (Red cable carry red color signal only, Blue etc etc) which means it is much more specific rather than the 'default PS2/PS3' yellow cable that does all the visuals. Sound must be brought only with that red and white cables (which means you will get a stereo sound output) or use the digital outwadljfagrihna oh whatever the name is if you want 5.1 channel surround sound (I can't use 'em coz my sound system only accept red n white input..

Hope u get what I mean.

I'm looking forward to A*s-throw byond. (reminds me of PS3 ads, PLAY B3YOND)

This post has been edited by lowyard: Jan 16 2010, 02:39 AM

Actually dun need so difficult. Standard yellow-red-white cable also can use for component. Just plug yellow into green, red to red and white to blue. Then use another just red and white cable for audio. The color coding is just for convenience. Copper cable is copper cable.

Thanks 4 ur info
I will try and see what my SD channels PQ looks like
I know what to do now if its not up to standards okey.. I sure would have messed up the colours if u did not tell me
thanks..will try to do it..
btw, anyone can give me the standard price 4 a good component cable?
I was told less than RM100..but how much?
and are there any brands I should go for?