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tks203
post Jan 8 2010, 02:59 AM

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Just installed Astro HD today. Problem with HDMI connection to Panasonic Plasma, cannot get picture when selecting 720P or 1080i. 576P does display picture but distorted.

The same plasma connecting to PS3 and ACRyan Media player with HDMI without any problem. The installer can't offer any help.

Anyone of you having such problem?

Some of you posted to use Component Video for HD. I tried but it does not allow selecting "High Definition" in TV setting. Only "Standard Definition" is shown.

Please help.

Thanks

tks203
post Jan 9 2010, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 9 2010, 07:40 PM)
hello peeps,

anyone of u still having the component output distorted issue? i'm still having it and it really annoys the hell out of me.

If you guys havent know, you can boot the setup box to initiate auto update to happen by pressing the on/off, channel down, and channel up button one by one (front panel of the STB, not through remote) or to put it simple, press all 3 buttons from left to right one by one...the STB will off by itself, and boot while checking if there is a need to auto update.

During that period, it will display a banner saying "setting up STB", through component it looks fine, the moment it shows the tv guide banner with the video...the picture starts to get distorted... geez still a little annoyed with this problem.

Any idea how to solve this component output mess?
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I am having the same problem as what you described but with the HDMI output. Mine is not watchable so I connect using component output which work very well. Cannot set HD with component output.

So I pay extra to watch Astro Byond Standard Definition for now. The only consolation is that the PQ on component output is better than the S video with the previous decoder.
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post Jan 9 2010, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 9 2010, 10:13 PM)
Firstly, is your HDMI option on B.yond turned on? If not, call Astro and get them to turn it on. Yes, it has to be Astro that can turn it on.

Secondly, if it is already turned on but you still can't get picture, there can be a variety of problems.
1) Bad HDMI port. Could be on B.yond or on your TV. So change the HDMI input to see if it works.
2) Could be a bad HDMI cable. IF you have a spare HDMI cable, use that to see if it improves.
3) The most expensive problem. Your HDTV is not HDCP capable.
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I think your third answer is most probable cause. When updating firmware (under low res) it work fine but blank screen with normal program. My plasma is about 4 years old, so it could be not compatible with astro HDCP. I have been using it with PS3 playing Bluray without any problem.

You see, buy too early pay the price for "bleeding edge technology" loll
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post Jan 10 2010, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 9 2010, 11:12 PM)
Hmmm. So far the PS3 can let you play 1080i video via component but needs HDMI to play 1080p. Check online resources or your manual to see if your TV has HDCP with its HDMI input.
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The PS3 only has HDMI and play 1080i on my TV (HD ready 1366 x 768) without any problem. My TV claimed to have HDCP. Waiting for Panasonic Tech to call me.


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post Jan 10 2010, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Jan 9 2010, 11:32 PM)
Did you get an error saying "Copy Protection Failed" over a blank screen, or just a pure black screen? If latter most likely your TV not compatible with 1080i res. Try 720p. Because if HDCP fail got error message over a black screen.
It's a known problem. People who complained to Astro was told to contact HBO directly. So do that.
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Mine just blank screen without any message. So if it is not HDCP issue, what else could it be? It works with PS3 and AC Ryan Playon HD over HDMI without issue.

This kind of problem really drive you nut, becos you don't know for sure who to blame. Is there any other way to test whether it is the HDCP issue? Anybody know which bluray title is HDCP protected, so that I can try it on my TV?

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post Jan 12 2010, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 12 2010, 09:11 AM)
My Review about Astro B.yond (UPDATE)

1. I used Panasonic SDTV.
2. The TV can be programmed to the remote using option 2 (refer to installation manual).
3. Smart Card from other decoder can be inserted into the B.yond decoder (no HD channels).
4. Component cable works perfectly on SD channels and gives maximum picture quality that my TV can display (HD settings: 576p).
5. Changed satellite to #18 MEASAT-3A and gives 220-222 signal strength with 100% quality.
6. HD Channels via SDTV with component cable connection shows sharp picture that SDTV can get (no distortion).
Yet to be done:

1. Test SD channels via HDMI.
Suggestions:

1. Remove limitations on how many favourite channels should be set (like the old days).
2. Surf to favourite channels ch+ and ch- when enabled (like the old days).
3. Ceiling functions (like the old days).
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I am also connect to my TV via component cable. How to select HD settings: 576p? The HD selection is not allow without HDMI connected in my decoder.

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post Jan 13 2010, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jan 12 2010, 10:15 PM)
I have just tried connecting my byond using component output to my panny LCD...
Im just using the bundled Composite+RCA Audio cable (the yellow, red and white RCA cable)..,
Yellow I connected to Green colour connector
White to Blue or black colour connector
and Red to red colour connector...

And surpriseingly, all the SD Channel (i repeat, SD Channels).., the PQ was a bit good than connecting via HDMI.., but for HD channels, many lost in PQ, it became a bit blurry...

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Try using a better quality component cable, the SD will be much better. I spend RM45 for the component cable and worth every penny.
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post Jan 15 2010, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(shakiraa @ Jan 15 2010, 07:29 PM)


1.Will SD channel PQ improve if I connect thru component compared to HDMI? (because I will go and purchase a component cable tonight if it is true)
2.For audio connection frm beyond to amp thru coaxial, how come volume not able to be controlled by astro remote. I read frm this forum that it is like that. But how come?
3.How to get true digital surround? We only have one HDMI in the astro beyond. That only one is used to connect to TV. We don’t have 2nd one to connect frm astro beyond to amp to get HD audio.
4.how to solve the volume different when switch from HD to SD? I read frm this thread firmware upgrade will help. But I already done mine still not able to solve
5.I can switch satellite to measat #18 but cant save it. When I press back it automatically switch to Measat #1. any solution to this?

Thanks so much guys.

Now hope for more channel especially ESPN to come and also the recording feature.
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1) The SD ch PQ will be much more better with a decent component cable.

2) The astro remote volume control is only meant for analog audio out. Digital coax is for amplifier which has its own volume control.

3) you can use coax to your av amp or use HDMI to your av amp (that support such function) first and connect from av amp to the TV.

4) this is the problem with astro and hope that they will equalize the level before broadcast. Nothing we can do.

5) It is just a transponder setting. You are not changing satellite. The gain from the transponder varies. Different channel uses different transponder.

Hope that help.
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post Jan 16 2010, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(dxjb @ Jan 16 2010, 12:15 AM)
Hye..
I just want to know..is the PQ of SD channels on Byond decoder really bad compared to the old decoder?
If so, can anyone show me what a component cable looks like and how to fix it to the Byond decoder?
I'm not quite good at these things..Just trying to read and learn here bout these things..
My Byond installer coming tomorrow..
Anyone can help?
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The old decoder video is analog signal (s-video or composite) and your HD TV will perform the upscaling to fill the HD screen. The byond decoder via the HDMI is a digital signal already scaled to fit HD screen so the TV will not use its scaler. Usually the TV scaler processor is much more powerful than that of the decoder and yield better quality picture. Therefore, the byond decoder viewing SD via HDMI will look worst because the scaling create lots of artifacts. To me it is not quite acceptable.

Using analog signal (component) from Byond is another story. Now the TV will use its scaler to fit the HD screen and the picture will be better. Given that the component signal is better than s-video, the results will be much better than the old decoder.

So, the question of whether Byond decoder SD is bad or good depends on the connections you use.

Most TV has both component and HDMI inputs. You can connect both of them and watch SD and HD with component and HDMI respectively.

Component cable is with 3 RCA jack, Red, Blue and Green. Buy a reasonable quality one, usually cost less than RM100.



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