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post Jan 5 2010, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(honkit @ Jan 5 2010, 02:31 PM)
how is the installation like? do they change all the old cable? i plan to get the byond but my house wiring is all concealed in the wall.
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They didn't touch my wiring but some people have had wiring replaced. Depends on the condition of it. They will chcek it and let you know when they come for the install.
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post Jan 5 2010, 07:04 PM

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No way is the picture quality worse on SD with HDMI.
It is better.

I think most of you are noticing this becasue you just spent half an hour looking at an HD channel and went to SD. Naturally the difference is huge when doing this but it is still better then what it was.

Your brain is playing tricks on you.

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post Jan 5 2010, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 5 2010, 07:35 PM)
my astro installer didnt change my cables because they are concealed... the signal is at most 195 during the day and 205 at night.... should i call them to come and change the cable? will the change of cable help boost signal strength? ...today it rained and as usual service currently not available.
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It's not going to completely get rid of rain fade regardless of the signal level. I would only call if they didn't give you the new dish.
They would have tested the cable and advised you during install if it wasn't suitable.

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post Jan 5 2010, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(me076310 @ Jan 5 2010, 08:03 PM)
did you guys notice that the picture quality in 1080i is way too bright compared to 720p?

or is it just my HDTV?  by the way add me to the list i'm from keramat au2a
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that's your TV or it is deliberate effect on the show you are watching.
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post Jan 5 2010, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(louislsm @ Jan 5 2010, 08:07 PM)
Hi, does anyone know what is the digital audio port behind the Astro Byond box? Is it SPDIF ? Has anyone used the port ? If YES, is the audio good ?
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it's SPDIF and its digital audio, so yes it is good.
But since it's digital audio you won't be able to control the decoders volume when using it so be sure to sync the remote to the TV.
press OK and Vol up till the remote blinks twice to be able to control volume if connecting this.
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post Jan 7 2010, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(shahzad86 @ Jan 7 2010, 09:07 PM)
just got my beyond HD installed today, impressed by the quality of the HD contents especially channel 831..hehe

i have 1 problem though, i cant control the volume using beyond's remote, i press up and down but the sound remains the same. Anyone got this similiar issue?
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are you using the digital audio connection? If so this is a normal operation of any digital audio connection. digital audio does not offer volume control. You have to control the audio on the device that is controlling the speakers ie the TV or home theater.

press ok and volume up till the remote blinks twice to sync you remote to the tvs volumne.
read the manual for codes to sync the remote to control power and input selection of your tv also.
If you are connected via hdmi you should be able to control the decoder volume. I certainly can

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post Jan 8 2010, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(auronthas @ Jan 8 2010, 02:03 PM)
...I changed the setting from pillar box (no vertical black bar on both sides) to stretch mode to fit into the entire screen.
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This is criminal behavour to anyone that understands aspect ratio shakehead.gif









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post Jan 9 2010, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 9 2010, 11:33 PM)
Easy... CENSORSHIP...

As HD takes longer time to encode, astro had to delay hbo hd for one hour...
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both HBO and HBO HD are delayed an hour for censorship, has nothing to do with encoding times. They are 2 separate channels with separate schedules, sometimes their programming is synced and sometimes they aren't.
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post Jan 9 2010, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 9 2010, 11:44 PM)
Not quite true on censorship. TRUE that any content gets censored first but viewing and censoring are done using BetaHD. It's very quick. Also to some degree, the tapes may contain clean language instead of the R-rated ones.

Once the tape passes the censors, it gets played on the BetaHD decks. The H.264 encoding is done online aka LIVE. The reason for live encoding is simple: the broadcaster is the one that sets the bitrate per channel. If it's pre-encoded, it may be encoded to too high a bitrate.

I don't like censorship but we have to live with it until the majority of Malaysians understand why censorship is not needed.
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Not true, HBO playout is from Singapore not Astro, Astro only plays anything on HBO if a movie is banned here and HBO is still showing it for other regions. Astro doesn't use tape for play out either they use servers. All internal channels go into a special editing system that delays the feed before broadcasting it allowing the censors to do anything they want.
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post Jan 10 2010, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 9 2010, 11:58 PM)
Currently I do not subscribe to the movies, sports and learning packages, can I upgrade to B.yond to view the 4/5 HD channels only ?
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You see the big banner above this page with Astro Byond on it?
Click it and read the FAQ
Short answer NO
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post Jan 10 2010, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 10 2010, 12:09 AM)
Why NO ??????????!!!?!? Money sucking Astro
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Think about it. Why would you get them if you don't even subscribe to the SD version of the channel?
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post Jan 10 2010, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 10 2010, 12:11 AM)
The FAQ quotes Sports package only
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"No. The High-Definition channels are bundled within our existing packages." They are using an example to explain it for you. You need to be a subscriber of the package
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post Jan 10 2010, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 10 2010, 12:12 AM)
Thanks for the correction. But delaying a movie for over an hour when you can do it online on the spot doesn't make sense. At most you delay is 15 minutes.

Of course. But they do use tape to download to the servers. But what they can censor first, they will.
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Yeah the delay time I guess is just to be safe?

regarding your second point. True if astro is doing the play out but if they are censoring an incoming feed there is no tapes involved.

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post Jan 10 2010, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(tks203 @ Jan 10 2010, 12:33 AM)
Mine just blank screen without any message. So if it is not HDCP issue, what else could it be? It works with PS3 and AC Ryan Playon HD over HDMI without issue.

This kind of problem really drive you nut, becos you don't know for sure who to blame. Is there any other way to test whether it is the HDCP issue? Anybody know which bluray title is HDCP protected, so that I can try it on my TV?
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You are watching the correct TV input channel?
It's not the same as the component channel
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post Jan 10 2010, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 10 2010, 01:22 AM)
All right lets make B.yond HD Channel Wishlist! Maybe astro will see this thread and maybe grant our wishes...

HD CHANNEL WISHLIST:
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1. Disney Channel HD
2. Discovery HD
3. Astro RIA HD (Doesn't astro want to hold the title 'first malay hd channel in Malaysia?')
4. RTM HD
5. ESPNews HD
6. Star Movies HD
7. Cartoon Network HD
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Considering that almost all of these channels don't exist in HD I can't see how Astro will make your wish come true?
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post Jan 10 2010, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jan 10 2010, 03:32 PM)
I planned to buy component cable for my astro byond...
should i choose monster cable tongue.gif or just cheap one that was selling in Giant - (if i'm not mistake, the price that I saw yesterday not more than RM50) ??
since component was analog signal, not digital like HDMI... maybe the cable quality will make difference?

* just wanna try whether my component output was having problem or not like others here talking about it...
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Why?

If you can use HDMI and Digital audio coax there is no need to even bother using component cables. Those calming the picture quality is better on SD are wrong and simply haven't set their TV's up correctly. The only difference I see is a slightly more saturated colour but no difference in actual picture quality.

by using component you will not get HD quality and you can only get 5.1 by using the digital audio coax. PLus now you have to change TV inputs to watch HD and SD channel. Do you really want to do that?

I think a lot of people have issues with their TV set up rather then the decoder. I know I spent quite a bit of time ensuring all my menu settings in my Sony TV and Home theater where set correctly before it worked properly for me.


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post Jan 10 2010, 10:26 PM

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I've seen the TVB stuff in HD and their production looks crap. Bad make-up and sets and poor lighting. It actually looks better seen in SD.
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post Jan 12 2010, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 12 2010, 09:11 AM)
My Review about Astro B.yond (UPDATE)

1. I used Panasonic SDTV.
2. The TV can be programmed to the remote using option 2 (refer to installation manual).
3. Smart Card from other decoder can be inserted into the B.yond decoder (no HD channels).
4. Component cable works perfectly on SD channels and gives maximum picture quality that my TV can display (HD settings: 576p).
5. Changed satellite to #18 MEASAT-3A and gives 220-222 signal strength with 100% quality.
6. HD Channels via SDTV with component cable connection shows sharp picture that SDTV can get (no distortion).
Yet to be done:

1. Test SD channels via HDMI.
Suggestions:

1. Remove limitations on how many favourite channels should be set (like the old days).
2. Surf to favourite channels ch+ and ch- when enabled (like the old days).
3. Ceiling functions (like the old days).
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There are some fundemental issues with this. Perhaps I've misunderstood you?

1 why test on an SD TV?
2 the remote is programmed not the TV
3 might happen to some but it is not a universal thing. Definately doesn't happen with me.
4 I wouldn't consider 576p HD
5 pretty sure that playing with this does nothing more then tell you signal strength of the transponder. It doesn't actual boost your recieving reception. It is just a monitor.
6 it is down scaled to SD

How can you test an SDTV with HDMI cables? SDTV don't have HDMI inputs.

Regarding your other issues. I agree with point 2 and don't know what the "ceiling functions" are that you're refer to? But regarding having more access to programme more favourite channels then it allows then I disagree. The objective of this function is to highlight your Fav channels not to block out channels you don't want to see.

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post Jan 12 2010, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 12 2010, 12:47 PM)
Ceiling functions. If certain channels are unavailable, decoder will change the channel to the nearest to the number.

eg. you input 100, automatically go to 101
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Oh right,

yeah would be nice to have that back.
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post Jan 12 2010, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Jan 12 2010, 02:37 PM)
Proud owner of b.yond(should I?)

anyway just installed this morning...
picture is great but there is problem with audio sync.......

adjusting the audio time does not give fruitful result..
tested from 20ms to 200ms...200ms give the best result but still miss the cue also..

anyone have this issue?
sorry if its already mention earlier...
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Are you set to Dolby and have connected the digital audio cable to a home theather?

First thing to do is check that A/V sync of the Home Theather is not affecting the lip sync

Check that you are getting this issue on all channels. If it is only on one channel then someone has fallen asleep at astro and it is a broadcast issue.

I'm set at about 80mss




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