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 The Official Subwoofer Thread v3, Everything you need to know about bass!

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pierreye
post Jul 2 2010, 12:05 PM

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There are 2 school of thoughts on the SPL meter direction. I read in avsforum that some of the guru advice to point the SPL meter upward or slightly forward. I think the reason is to get uniform SPL level from all speakers. Even REW documentation also mention pointing upward but some SPL meter need to plug in the sponge for more consistent reading.

http://www.realtraps.com/art_microphones.htm

Note: Pointing up is only for omnidirectional mic. I recheck REW documentation on meter placement recommendation. For low freq (below few hundred hz), pointing straight up is the recommended position. Above few hundred hz, recommended to point the meter at the speaker.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/roomeq/wiz...ingstarted.html

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post Jul 5 2010, 10:29 AM

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To all the bass sifu out there.

My friend was asking me which is a better sub between Paradigm DSP-3400 vs SVS PC12Plus?


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post Jul 5 2010, 07:04 PM

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Im interested in this question too.
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post Jul 6 2010, 09:06 AM

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I doubt the Paradigm can outclass the PC12-Plus. PC12-Plus sounds cleaner than the much talked about Velo SPL1200-Ultra. It has tighter bass and digs deep with good control.

I can't remember the exact Paradigm sub model that a customer have. But, his new PB12-Plus just blew it away. Hornyangmoh has a unit of this Paradigm. Why not you guys do a shootout since he is in Miri (IIRC)
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post Jul 6 2010, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 6 2010, 09:06 AM)
I doubt the Paradigm can outclass the PC12-Plus. PC12-Plus sounds cleaner than the much talked about Velo SPL1200-Ultra. It has tighter bass and digs deep with good control.

I can't remember the exact Paradigm sub model that a customer have. But, his new PB12-Plus just blew it away.  Hornyangmoh has a unit of this Paradigm. Why not you guys do a shootout since he is in Miri (IIRC)
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Aiyoh! I live in a very rural part of Sarawak, going to Miri will take me the whole day by bus. sad.gif

Beside carrying a bulky 30kg DSP3400 is a back breaking sexperiance. nod.gif Anyway I got Velo spl 1200 and I still prefer the DSP-3400 for HT.
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post Jul 6 2010, 02:31 PM

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In fact my friend have a DSP3400 in his home as the dealer is trying to convince him to buy it so he left it with him. My friend haven't confirm the purchase as he wanted to compare to my PC12+.

I can't do the side by side test until next week end.
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post Jul 6 2010, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jul 6 2010, 02:31 PM)
In fact my friend have a DSP3400 in his home as the dealer is trying to convince him to buy it so he left it with him.  My friend haven't confirm the purchase as he wanted to compare to my PC12+.

I can't do the side by side test until next week end.
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Wow! I look forward to your FR & shoot out between the DSP 3400 & SVS PC12+. He! He! See who wallop who in the sub bass test. rclxms.gif

Some suggestion:-

U571 deep charge test ( Prefer HD sound but DTS/DD will do also )

Transformer 2 blu ray

Terminator 4

For music

Try out Bass Markenik & Crystal Method brows.gif
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Thanks for the suggestion.
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post Jul 6 2010, 05:52 PM

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That would be interesting to hear your review on the comparison.
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post Jul 6 2010, 07:38 PM

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I am no expert so a review is impossible lah. I hope I will be home soon so I can do a simple comparison to see how good is my PC12+ hehehe. You don't know how good your equipment is until you hear others.
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post Jul 6 2010, 11:36 PM

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I would LOVE to hear your final say, be it a review or comment. Just let us have the final conclusion, who will win in the battle of the deep bass...SVS PC-12plus? or Paradigm DSP-3400?

I guess all of SVS subwoofer owners are keep'g our fingers cross....including me.








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post Jul 9 2010, 09:52 AM

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LOL... My money on PC12-Plus esp for those ULF. For a ported sub, 12-Plus is surprisingly clean too.
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post Jul 9 2010, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(HornyAngMoh @ Jul 6 2010, 03:24 PM)
Wow! I look forward to your FR & shoot out between the DSP 3400 & SVS PC12+. He! He! See who wallop who in the sub bass test. rclxms.gif

Some suggestion:-

U571 deep charge test ( Prefer HD sound but DTS/DD will do also )

Transformer 2 blu ray

Terminator 4

For music

Try out Bass Markenik & Crystal Method  brows.gif
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Should try out The Hurt Locker to wallop sub,veri ooomph indeed. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 9 2010, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(choontoy @ Jul 9 2010, 02:20 PM)
Should try out The Hurt Locker to wallop sub,veri ooomph indeed. thumbup.gif
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The Hurt Locker very boring movie & the boob explosion very weak. Transformer is the best to test sub! thumbup.gif

BTw nice 'nen nen' pic! wub.gif
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post Jul 9 2010, 04:05 PM

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Transformer? You mean 1 or 2?

I prefer to use TS and HellBoy II. Hurt Locker has some very good bass scene and it is indeed very punishing for sub to produce the ULF.
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post Jul 9 2010, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(HornyAngMoh @ Jul 9 2010, 02:25 PM)
The Hurt Locker very boring movie & the boob explosion very weak. Transformer is the best to test sub! thumbup.gif

BTw nice 'nen nen' pic! wub.gif
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post Jul 9 2010, 09:03 PM

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HSU sub is on sale now. HSU ULS15 Buying 2 will have further discount 2 x HSU ULS-15 Anyone has HSU ULS-15? Any comment on it? Wonder how the performance is comparing to PB12+ and PB13+....

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post Jul 9 2010, 09:49 PM

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The dual HSU ULS-15 are very good. The few sub that can extend to 10hz. Big plus on the size which is quite small for 15" plus wireless which is more flexible on sub placement.

I never heard the sub but according to avsforum, I believe the rating as below:

PB12+ < HSU ULS15 < PB13U < Dual ULS15. Again ULS15 is a seal sub so it depends on your preferences.

If your main application is HT and can only get one sub, PB13U would fit your need.

Anyway, someone had to be the first to get ULS15 in Malaysia.

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post Jul 9 2010, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Jul 9 2010, 09:49 PM)
The dual HSU ULS-15 are very good. The few sub that can extend to 10hz. Big plus on the size which is quite small for 15" plus wireless which is more flexible on sub placement.

I never heard the sub but according to avsforum, I believe the rating as below:

PB12+ < HSU ULS15 < PB13U < Dual ULS15. Again ULS15 is a seal sub so it depends on your preferences.

If your main application is HT and can only get one sub, PB13U would fit your need.

Anyway, someone had to be the first to get ULS15 in Malaysia.
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your sub sudah siap?.. finally this afternoon i have installed my projector screen:).. my ht dream is getting near.. it's been delayd for 2 years hehe
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post Jul 9 2010, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Jul 9 2010, 09:49 PM)
The dual HSU ULS-15 are very good. The few sub that can extend to 10hz. Big plus on the size which is quite small for 15" plus wireless which is more flexible on sub placement.

I never heard the sub but according to avsforum, I believe the rating as below:

PB12+ < HSU ULS15 < PB13U < Dual ULS15. Again ULS15 is a seal sub so it depends on your preferences.

If your main application is HT and can only get one sub, PB13U would fit your need.

Anyway, someone had to be the first to get ULS15 in Malaysia.
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Thanks for the insight... now I have a clearer picture. biggrin.gif

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