Agent in Brunei?

I hope this sub give the SVS a run for its money. Just wanna have good competition so price will come down. Its like politic where you need strong opposition to keep the gov't from abusing its power!

They might ship to Brunei...

I came across this today....not sure if it have been discussed here.

EMOTIVA ULTRA SUB (USD499)
Spec:
Power Output: 300 watts RMS, 500 watts peak

Typical In‐Room Frequency Response: 22Hz‐200Hz

Typical In‐Room SPL: 110‐113db

Nominal input sensitivity:
Balanced Input: 1V
Unbalanced Input: 500 mv.

Phase Adjustment: 0 - 180 degrees @50Hz

Low pass Crossover: 50-150Hz variable, 24db per octave

Dimensions: 14.5” wide x 14.5” high x 15.25” deep

Weight: 38 lbs.

Its a seal 12"sub and comes at a super low price too. Since Emotiva makes very decent product, I would think this is a good sub too....might give SVS a run for its money.

To all the bass sifu out there.

My friend was asking me which is a better sub between Paradigm DSP-3400 vs SVS PC12Plus?

In fact my friend have a DSP3400 in his home as the dealer is trying to convince him to buy it so he left it with him. My friend haven't confirm the purchase as he wanted to compare to my PC12+.

I can't do the side by side test until next week end.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I am no expert so a review is impossible lah. I hope I will be home soon so I can do a simple comparison to see how good is my PC12+ hehehe. You don't know how good your equipment is until you hear others.

Paradigm DSP-3400 vs SVS PC12Plus

Ok. I have tested both sub side by side on the 14th July 2010 in my friend's house. My opinion on both sub is base on real life listening with only one calibration done on both the Paradigm DSP-3400 vs SVS PC12Plus i.e. setting the volume level to equal loudness using SPL meter. No room adjustment or calibration is done during the test. For the same SPL measured, my SVS volume level is set at half way at 12 while the DSP-3400 is set at only slightly above 10.

Listening material used:

1. Eagles Farewell Tour 1
2. Finding Nemo - Darla Taps Tank (1:18:16) & Whale Spouting (1:12:04) 20Hz
3. Kung fu Panda: Fight between Po and Tai-lung & Po escape
4. Transformers: Ironhide Sweep
5. Golden Compass during the Polar Bear fight & Airship entering city.
6. DTS Demo DVD - Omar Hakim - Listen Up

We tested by playing above with one sub and then replay it imediately with another sub so there are a lot of sub switching during the test.

For music, both subs gave very similar performance. Its good to hear that the Paradigm DSP-3400 is not boomy just like the SVS PC12-Plus and both produce clean and tight bass. It really very hard to tell any difference between the 2 subs.

For movies, most of the test materials I use really push the subs to its limit and both sub can handle what we throw at it. Most of the people present prefer the SVS more as its seems to give more kick than the Paradigm. However the Paradigm DSP-3400 is great sub too as it can handle all the above with room shaking bass too. It just feel that the SVS dig slightly lower(maybe) therefore giving the feeling of more punch.

Overall I highly recommend the Paradigm DSP-3400 for its price and its performance. The one we tested cost RM3800 vs the SVS PC12+ which retail for RM5400 in Malaysia. Without a side by side comparison, you can hardly tell any difference in performance from the 2 sub so for those budget concious people, please do check out the Paradigm DSP-3400. You won't be disappointed.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jul 17 2010, 06:19 PM

Sub are put on the same location for the test. No calibration as in not relocating the sub to find its optimum location. The sub is place in a convenient location instead that is at the corner of the HT room.

What I did to make sure both subs are running at the same volume level by running a 40hz frequency sound and using my SPL meter to measure it, then adjusting the volume level of both sub to the same level. That way we know we have a similar volume on both sub for the listening test.

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Added on July 18, 2010, 8:49 amVincent was not there during the test.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jul 18 2010, 08:49 AM

I would disagree with you on this after testing out the Paradigm. It should out perform the PB12-NSD and its cost almost the same too. In fact the paradigm can stand on its own against the SVS PC-12Plus.

Paradigm DSP-3400 = RM3800(Miri price) - 300Watts - 14"

SVS PB12-NSD = RM3750(KL price not including shipping to Miri yet) - 325Watt - 14"

SVS PB12-Plus : RM6,599(KL price not including shipping to Miri yet) 525Watts - 12.5"

If you read my test of both the SVS PC12+ Vs Paradigm DSP-3400 , I can say that the Paradigm DSP-3400 is just as good as the PC12+ for RM2600 less.

Yes, subwoofer test is no easy task, but during my listening with both sub, we place the sub at the same location and adjusted to the same output level. And btw, my Pc12+ was at 12 o'clock all the time during the test while the Paradigm DSP-3400 was only set at 10:30 position. I am happy to say that the Paradigm DSP-3400 can keep up with the PC12+ on all the test. Although I mention that the PC12+ may have a slight edge over Paradigm DSP-3400, that difference is really not much. But when comparing the price, the Paradigm DSP-3400 is RM2600 cheaper. I would buy the Paradigm DSP-3400 if I have to choose between to 2 subs again simply because I can save a lot of money yet I get a great sub.

Base on my listening Paradigm DSP-3400 Vs SVS PB12-Plus, I seriously doubt that the SVS PB12-NSD can compete with the Paradigm DSP-3400. So if you are comparing between Paradigm DSP-3400(RM3800) VS SVS PB12-NSD(RM3750), I think the Paradigm DSP-3400 would clearly outperform the NSD by a big margin for the same price.

For those who are SVS loyalist, go ahead and spend more on the SVS. For me I have listen for 2 hours with both and I am happy with both.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jul 20 2010, 10:42 PM

Why is this tax issue always in discussion??? I did get my svs cheap but my comparison of the 2 subs is base solely on malaysian price.

The above price for the Paradigm and SVS are all Malaysian price for fair comparison. The DSP-3400 is RM3800 right here in Miri and you don't have to pay any shipping to your door step. If anybody are willing to pay Rm6599 for the PB12+, then by all means go and buy it. I have heard the DSP-3400 and I think anyone who want some serious bass should go check it out and it won't hurt your wallet too!

I did a comparison of speakers price and most brand are about 10% to 20% more in Malaysia, but abs speakers are 50% - 60% more。not really sure why is that.
Don't get me wrong. Svs sub are really great but I think I have got an alternative which is cheaper and sound just as great my pc12+. Just my opinion but before you jump into any sub, just try out first.

The latest price for the DSP-3400 that I know of is ONLY RM3300.
Still don't believe it!!!

From what I know, its the S.. that is way overpice here in Bolehland.

My friend bought one in Miri for Rm3500. Go back in this thread and you can see someone bought it for RM3300 only. Good luck.

Congrats junwei for bringing in a great subwoofer at a great price. This should give SVS a run for its money.

I have the same living room layout like yours. My sub is on the left position just like yours, but I have better results when I place it it on the left side. But due to some room decor I have to place it in the right side.

What make is your satelite speakers? What are the power rating? Not all speakers can play loud and clean so know the weaknesses of you speaker and play within the limits.